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the latest poll question: do you seriously practice LNT ethics?

i answered no because
a. i don't pack out my waste
b. i don't pick up after other people
c. i've thrown a few apple cores in the bushes in the past

curious what others have to say
where do you draw the line?

chumley wrote:Not sure where that makes you rank in hiking, but you're damn near the king of the hill of site participation.

It sure makes me not hiking.... Seriously though, I'm pretty confident that I lack much of the experience that many on this site have, but that just comes with time and getting out there. I am fairly confident though, that when I do go out there, I'm pretty well "informed"..... As far as I'm concerned, the Outdoors is one giant learning curve....

I myself kick ducks.

Has anyone else noticed how snakes use an advantageous cairn?

cactuscat wrote:kind of pride myself on being able to find my way without one.

I had a friend who thought the same thing. He went missing on a deer hunt 35 years ago, haven't seen him since I always take my GPS with me,,,Always ;)

Yeah ... people with gps never dissapear.

My GPS can tell me I'm lost in 15 different languages!

They had a 20/20 show last night on how a lady and some girls got lost in Death Valley in their car following their GPS in July!

Dschur wrote:They had a 20/20 show last night on how a lady and some girls got lost in Death Valley in their car following their GPS in July!

You cant fix stupid.

Death Valley in July was the beginning of their stupidity.

GPS is a tool. Use it if you want or don't. If you stay on well-defined trails then you probably don't need one but looking down at them from that point of use is ridiculous as well. If I'm on trail I use mine mostly for the data and not route finding. If I'm hiking off-trail, then why would I ever not use one if they are available? Sure I can get out a map and compass. I know how to use them if I need to but a GPS is faster and does the same thing in a more organized fashion.

I imagine some point in history people having the same discussion about the compass or the map. People will always think there is something less authentic when more technology is used. I just like to think that it saves me time to enjoy what I'm doing more.

cactuscat wrote:Yeah ... people with gps never dissapear.

Unfortunately this is not true. Even people with GPS still vanish without a trace.

Since I usually stick to trails for the most part I don't carry a GPS although people I hike with do. I have a compass and take note of landmarks as well as carry a map.

What does GPS have to do with leave no trace? In any case, my GPS is a toy. My common sense keeps me from getting lost or getting into true trouble.....at least up to date.

Devils Mountain wrote:What does GPS have to do with leave no trace?

You can find your way with a GPS without a route needing to be physically marked with cairns.

chumley wrote:

Devils Mountain wrote:What does GPS have to do with leave no trace?

You can find your way with a GPS without a route needing to be physically marked with cairns.

I find the lack of respect people have for the soil to be a disturbing trend. Each foot step kills millions of our microbial friends. At least cairns are just a pile of rock, we have a virtual holocaust going on here, and no one cares! Come on, PEOPLE!

Jim_H wrote:I find the lack of respect people have for the soil to be a disturbing trend. Each foot step kills millions of our microbial friends. At least cairns are just a pile of rock, we have a virtual holocaust going on here, and no one cares! Come on, PEOPLE!

Actually they are homes for many of our smaller creatures.
Castles if you will so they can climb up and oversee their domain. :worthy:

So the Mrs. and I are hiking Spur Cross, doing a little loop across from the mine and connecting with the 7 Springs trail. We get to the top of the hill for a snack when I look down and see a thin plastic piece over a foot long in plastic kinda like a Slim Jim wrapper.
I pick it up when I hear my beautiful and articulate wife say....Dooofus, that's a catheter it goes up your pee pee and are you gonna eat with that hand?
Huh what the heck is it doing out here and couldn't they have taken it back?

The quick-witted husband wold have replied, "Use it for a straw".

Alston Neal wrote:I pick it up when I hear my beautiful and articulate wife say....Dooofus, that's a catheter it goes up your pee pee and are you gonna eat with that hand?
Huh what the heck is it doing out here and couldn't they have taken it back?

Eeeewww. I don't want to know why she recognized it and you didn't.

She was an RN..... ;)

She was an RN and used the term, "pee pee", not urethra?