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2017 Fire Restrictions - Tonto Forest

Posted: May 24 2017 10:04 pm
by chumley
Fire restrictions on the Tonto National Forest began Tuesday, May 23rd.

Current restrictions are "Stage 1". This means fires are still allowed in metal fire rings at developed campgrounds that have a camp host. Campfires are prohibited everywhere else. (If you're not sure, a good rule of thumb is if you aren't paying money for your camp site then you can't have a fire!)

Target shooting is prohibited forestwide, and smoking is restricted to your vehicle, building, or developed recreation site.

https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DO ... 543121.pdf

Re: 2017 Fire Restrictions - Tonto Forest

Posted: May 25 2017 7:41 pm
by drosenbush
Do you know if there is a fire ring near the trailhead? Would that be okay to use with the restriction?

Re: 2017 Fire Restrictions - Tonto Forest

Posted: May 25 2017 7:55 pm
by The_Eagle
@drosenbush
Read the bottom of page 1, top of page 2 and exhibit B in the link provided by @chumley above

Re: 2017 Fire Restrictions - Tonto Forest

Posted: May 25 2017 7:59 pm
by joebartels
@drosenbush
no, just the metal fire rings at developed campgrounds in this list

Cave Creek Ranger District
Bartlett Lake Recreation Area
Bartlett Lake Marina
Rattlesnake Cove
SB Cove parking lot Ramada’s with metal charcoal pedestal grills
Yellow Cliff parking lot Ramadas with metal charcoal pedestal grills
Seven Springs Recreation Area
Springs Group Site
CCC campground
Lower Verde Recreation Area
Needle Rock Day Use Picnic Area
Globe Ranger District
Timber Camp Equestrian Group Site
Timber Camp Campground - Brundrett #1 and Brundrett #2
Jones Water Campground
Oak Flat Campground
Kellner Group Recreation Site
Icehouse CCC Picnic Site
Sulphide Del Rey Campground
Pinal Campground
Upper Pinal Campground
Pioneer Pass Campground
MESA RANGER DISTRICT
Saguaro Del Norte
Butcher Jones
Acacia
Boulder
Laguna
Palo Verde
Granite Reef
Phon D Sutton
Coons Bluff
Saguaro Lake Marina
Canyon Lake Marina
Pebble Beach
Blue Point
Sheep’s Crossing
Water Users
Larry Forbis Group Site
Payson Ranger District
Houston Mesa Campground
Houston Mesa Horse Camp
Ponderosa Campground
Christopher Creek Campground
Sharp Creek Campground
Tonto Creek Campground
Tonto Creek Walk-In
Pleasant Valley Ranger District
Colcord Campground
Airplane Flat Campground
Upper Canyon Creek Campground
Tonto Basin Ranger District
Apache Lake Marina
Vineyard Picnic Site
Frazier Group Site
Frazier Campground
Windy Hill Campground
Cholla Campground
Grapevine Campground
Cottonwood Picnic Site
Schoolhouse Campground
Burnt Corral Campground

Re: 2017 Fire Restrictions - Tonto Forest

Posted: May 25 2017 8:05 pm
by drosenbush
Thanks for the clarification guys! Maybe we will relocate to Cholla campground and then do Brown peak in the morning

Re: 2017 Fire Restrictions - Tonto Forest

Posted: May 25 2017 8:23 pm
by joebartels
@drosenbush
you bet, have a great time!

Re: 2017 Fire Restrictions - Tonto Forest

Posted: May 26 2017 7:32 am
by cactuscat
I don't think having a camp host present or not has anything to do with it. Plenty of those developed sites on the list do not have hosts.

Re: 2017 Fire Restrictions - Tonto Forest

Posted: May 26 2017 7:49 am
by joebartels
@cactuscat
thx for the clarification!
( chums law was just extra careful )

Re: 2017 Fire Restrictions - Tonto Forest

Posted: May 26 2017 7:49 am
by chumley
@cactuscat
You're right. I mentioned it because it has been a guideline used by the Coconino NF in the past to help people understand what qualifies as a developed site or not.

See last year's CNF announcement here: https://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/asnf/new ... EPRD505433
Under the restrictions, fires, campfires, charcoal, coal and wood stoves are allowed in developed campgrounds only, which are managed by concessionaires or have campground hosts.
As you pointed out, the Tonto order does not include that wording. For Tonto, stick with the list of approved campgrounds provided in the order.