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2021 Fire Restrictions
Posted: May 06 2021 12:32 pm
by chumley
National Forests
Apache-Sitgreaves
No Restrictions starting Fri Jul 16th
Coconino
No Restrictions starting Fri Jul 16th
Coronado
No Restrictions starting Fri Jul 9th
Kaibab
No Restrictions starting Fri Jul 16th
Prescott
No Restrictions starting Wed Jul 21st
Tonto
No Restrictions starting Wed Jul 21st
State Trust
No Restrictions except Stage I in Yavapai County only
BLM
Nothing reported on HAZ thus far.
Per usual; check with the land managing agency before any trip for the best results.
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Update: A-S NF enacting a full closure beginning 6/24.
Update: A-S NF goes to Stage 2 beginning 6/11
Apache-Sitgreaves are the first National Forests in the state to enact restrictions, effective tomorrow May 7, 2021.
These Stage 1 Restrictions are set to expire December 31, 2021.
Read the official forest order here:
https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DO ... 909204.pdf
The public land agencies in the Southwest have made yet another attempt at consolidating restriction information in one (woefully poor attempt at an) easy to use website.
Needless to say, it does not yet reflect the announced ASNF restriction. Perhaps it will tomorrow when it takes effect?
You may visit this consolidated source of fire restriction data at
this link.
Re: 2021 Fire Restrictions
Posted: May 06 2021 12:57 pm
by andrewp
The sad thing is that the people who will end up adhering to these restrictions are the ones who are the least likely to let a fire get out of hand. It's the ones who think that the rules don't apply to them who will choose poor places to build a fire, build it too big, and not properly extinguish it.
Re: 2021 Fire Restrictions
Posted: May 06 2021 5:28 pm
by nonot
@andrewp
Agree, but at least the park service is trying to get information out to the public to those that are law abiding citizens and want to find the info without having to pick up the phone. USFS troubles with developing/maintaining web sites is nothing new.
Re: 2021 Fire Restrictions
Posted: May 06 2021 8:15 pm
by Grasshopper
nonot wrote:at least the park service is trying to get information out to the public to those that are law abiding citizens and want to find the info without having to pick up the phone.
I like this consolidated website idea!
This month I will soon be $paying$ for out of state plane tickets for one of my Grandkids to join me this June'21 for a week of Vehicle Camping/Hiking on our Mogollon Rim.
If this website is
regularly updated by the F/S, and I continue to check this website status regularly, I will hopefully get a jump on being able to follow the present "Fire Stage Level Restrictions" which, this so dry year, could include a possible Coconino National Forest Closure like we had in June'2018. I would then, ASAP, plan to take action to cancel this trip as unfortunately, I will have no backup plan.
Re: 2021 Fire Restrictions
Posted: May 06 2021 9:49 pm
by chumley
@Grasshopper
I'm out of the prediction business when it comes to FS restrictions, but there's still snow on north-facing slopes in sheltered drainages up there. It's not as wet as I've seen it in spring, but there's water flowing in most of the canyons and bright green grass growing in the sunny spots. At the moment, I would think a complete closure is an outlier in the next 4-6 weeks. Without additional rain between now and then, I think Stage 2 by mid/late-June is good bet though.
Re: 2021 Fire Restrictions
Posted: May 07 2021 6:34 am
by Sredfield
@chumley
Should we start a pool on when the different forests close?
Re: 2021 Fire Restrictions
Posted: May 11 2021 10:38 am
by chumley
UPDATE: Stage 2 begins 6/11
Prescott National Forest announces Stage 1 restrictions to begin Friday May 14
https://www.fs.usda.gov/alerts/prescott ... ?aid=65854
Edit/correction: previous report from Sedona Fire refers to non-FS land in the Sedona Fire district. Coconino NF has not officially announced restrictions yet.
Re: 2021 Fire Restrictions
Posted: May 11 2021 10:46 am
by FOTG
Tonto? paging Tonto....
Re: 2021 Fire Restrictions
Posted: May 11 2021 10:52 am
by chumley
friendofThundergod wrote:Tonto
I think their management strategy is to let the whole forest burn to a pile of ash so the crowds that they have no control of anyway will just go somewhere else.
Re: 2021 Fire Restrictions
Posted: May 11 2021 11:21 am
by FOTG
@chumley
No surprise from the worst run national forest in AZ. ;)
[ Tonto NF and Land Management ]
Re: 2021 Fire Restrictions
Posted: May 11 2021 2:13 pm
by ALMAL
@friendofThundergod
Maybe they're listening to the science...?
Re: 2021 Fire Restrictions
Posted: May 11 2021 5:58 pm
by chumley
UPDATE: Tonto in Stage 2 beginning 6/11
friendofThundergod wrote:paging Tonto....
...And there it is!
Tonto National Forest will implement Stage 1 restrictions beginning Friday May 14
https://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/tonto/ne ... EPRD910465
I've seen two interviews with national forest fire officials today who indicate that Coconino and Kaibab will also align with A-S, Prescott, and Tonto along with agencies including BLM and State Land to be consistent with Stage 1 beginning on Friday. When I see the official orders published, I'll post them here.
Re: 2021 Fire Restrictions
Posted: May 11 2021 6:01 pm
by chumley
Update: Kaibab goes to FULL CLOSURE beginning Wednesday 6/23 at 8am.
https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DO ... 924929.pdf
Update: Kaibab goes to Stage 2 on 6/11.
The
Kaibab National Forest will implement Stage 1 restrictions beginning Friday May 14.
https://www.fs.usda.gov/alerts/kaibab/a ... ?aid=65881
Re: 2021 Fire Restrictions
Posted: May 11 2021 8:15 pm
by Grasshopper
chumley wrote:When I see the official orders published, I'll post them here.
You are taking all the suspense away

from needing to open daily, the original "consolidated source of fire restriction data" at your posted
link 
Re: 2021 Fire Restrictions
Posted: May 12 2021 6:07 am
by RedRoxx44
I don't know that Coronado is maybe the worst run forest branch. I see no restriction orders in place yet. Whole slopes of scrub oak near the border dead and or dying. Tinderbox just waiting to happen.
Re: 2021 Fire Restrictions
Posted: May 12 2021 6:52 am
by andrewp
RedRoxx44 wrote: Whole slopes of scrub oak near the border dead and or dying. Tinderbox just waiting to happen.
Plus ridiculously high winds combined with historically low moisture. Fingers crossed that nothing major happens down here this year, but the odds on that are not good.
But give Coronado a break. They're still having trouble figuring out how to keep the Catalinas closed.
Re: 2021 Fire Restrictions
Posted: May 12 2021 8:51 am
by chumley
Update 6/21: Coconino will enact a FULL FOREST CLOSURE effective Wednesday 6/23.
https://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/coconino ... EPRD924914
Update 6/8: Coconino will enact Stage 2 restrictions Friday 6/11.
https://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/coconino ... EPRD920362
Coconino National Forest will enact Stage 1 restrictions beginning Friday May 14.
https://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/coconino ... EPRD910580
(they had to wait to announce it until they finished their prescribed burn yesterday ... it's bad optics to ask the public not to burn when you yourself are burning!
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Re: 2021 Fire Restrictions
Posted: May 12 2021 1:29 pm
by sam_hikes
tonto certainly doesn't have this problem either.
how many square miles of moonscape were they responsible for creating?
Re: 2021 Fire Restrictions
Posted: May 12 2021 2:28 pm
by cactuscat
Cool, now let's see everyone go quickly to stage two!
Re: 2021 Fire Restrictions
Posted: May 12 2021 2:43 pm
by chumley
cactuscat wrote:stage two
I'm not an experienced professional land manager or fire manager, so I literally have no expertise in this area for which these decisions are made,* but the primary change from stage 1 to stage 2 is the prohibition of campfires in developed campgrounds. Can you think of a single wildfire that ever started from escaping a forest service fire ring at a developed campground?
* Coconino has a very informative page on the decision-making process involved in implementing restrictions:
https://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/coconino ... rdb5339123