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Jeep is dying
Posted: Nov 21 2024 11:51 am
by chumley
Jeep overall has become a shell of its former self, with sales down 36% from before the pandemic. Stellantis managed to turn off customers to what was one of the hottest and most desirable brands by jacking up prices and mismanaging its lineup.
The problems at Stellantis are not limited to Gladiator or even to Jeep. The Ram truck brand has also struggled to keep up with truck offerings from General Motors and Ford. Dodge has cut some of its popular models in anticipation of electric versions. Chrysler, once the company’s core brand, is essentially down to one model, the Pacifica minivan, arguably the weakest segment of the US market.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/21/business ... index.html
Perhaps they should hire some executives from the REI marketing team?
The average price for a new vehicle in the US is over $47,000, and the big 3 domestic brands are all thousands higher than that.
I still see some Jeeps at trailheads, but I think 4Runners are most represented. I didn't realize that Jeep had killed the Patriot, Renegade, and Cherokee (they could have renamed it without discontinuing it!). I guess there's still the Compass if you want to spend under $50k.
The evolution of auto brands over the years is fascinating to me.
Re: Jeep is dying
Posted: Nov 22 2024 1:37 pm
by Alston_Neal
We traded in our FJ that we bought in 06 and it had 250K and some of that was San Juan camping and a lot of AZ roads. AZ. pin striping was on a par with Chums. Only replaced the front axles. Some jeepers are kinda like the Harley folks, they want that Murica image and besides it's not like they're gonna take them offroad anyway. I'm happy to see the Broncos coming out strong. Our first 4x4 was an 82 Bronco, which btw was crap and it was replaced by an even crappier Blazer. Toyota for the win.
Re: Jeep is dying
Posted: Nov 23 2024 4:50 am
by SpiderLegs
My high school was a preparatory academy for working the assembly line at Jeep. I grew up about a mile away from the Jeep factory and one of my girlfriends back then lived on Willys Parkway. So I'm well acquainted with the types of guys that put Jeeps together and heard all the stories firsthand about the onsite drinking & drug use on the assembly line. Even the guys that build Jeeps don't buy Jeeps, they have known about their quality issues for decades. The folks in Toledo all buy Chevy and Ford trucks for their camping and hunting trips.
Re: Jeep is dying
Posted: Nov 24 2024 8:42 am
by Pivo
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) has launched an investigation into 781,000 Jeep Wrangler and Gladiator models from 2021 to 2023 over reports of spontaneous underhood fires—this has prompted a class-action lawsuit from Jeep owners.
https://www.autoguide.com/auto/manufact ... s-44614684
Re: Jeep is dying
Posted: Nov 24 2024 9:31 am
by Alston_Neal
@Pivo
Which would result in melted ducks on the dash........the horror!
Re: Jeep is dying
Posted: Nov 24 2024 10:35 am
by chumley
“Alston_Neal” wrote: ducks on the dash
Is there a dumber trend linked to a specific vehicle on the planet? (A close second may be subaru with coexist bumper sticker?)
Re: Jeep is dying
Posted: Nov 24 2024 3:42 pm
by Alston_Neal
@chumley
We should start our own involving mini liquor bottles.
Re: Jeep is dying
Posted: Nov 24 2024 7:26 pm
by CannondaleKid
Alston_Neal wrote:We should start our own involving mini liquor bottles.
Like tossing them out the window instead of sticking them on the dash?
I only mention that due to the amount of Fireball bottles we find whenever we do our Adopt-A-Road clean-ups along Bush Highway.
Re: Jeep is dying
Posted: Nov 25 2024 9:35 am
by xsproutx
chumley wrote:Is there a dumber trend linked to a specific vehicle on the planet?
Just maybe, also Subaru related. There's this "moo moo subaru" thing where people leave little plastic cows with a note on them on subarus apparently that has gotten pretty popular. My best understanding is that is was started by someone on etsy selling them and the note and did a little guerilla marketing. Go capitalism I guess?
Re: Jeep is dying
Posted: Nov 25 2024 10:46 am
by RedRoxx44
Someone gave me a tiny duck at a gas station stop. They were in a jeep at a pump next to mine. I was puzzled, put it in a cup holder for about a month then threw it away. Benefits of not being on most social media; I miss out on the trends.
Re: Jeep is dying
Posted: Nov 25 2024 10:55 am
by Alston_Neal
So it seems the new fad is the Jeeple give little rainbow My Little Ponies to the Bronco folks.
Re: Jeep is dying
Posted: Nov 25 2024 11:08 am
by xsproutx
@Alston_Neal
I hate plastic waste but I also really love snark so I'm uncertain how to process that one.
Re: Jeep is dying
Posted: Nov 26 2024 11:05 am
by Pivo
Is there a Tacoma trend, giving them a taco? I would gladly accept real tacos.
Re: Jeep is dying
Posted: Dec 01 2024 3:24 pm
by Alston_Neal
Stellantis CEO just retired. Rubber duck market plummets.
Re: Jeep is dying
Posted: Dec 01 2024 6:01 pm
by xsproutx
@Alston_Neal
My 8 year old daughter has requested a pack of something like 150 miniature ducks for Christmas to hide all over the place. Life, uh, finds a way.
Re: Jeep is dying
Posted: Dec 01 2024 6:26 pm
by big_load
I saw a duck in a Bronco yesterday, which seemed a bit sad. I also saw an Ineos Grenadier in Scottsdale, the only one I've seen so far in real life.
Re: Jeep is dying
Posted: Dec 02 2024 10:32 am
by Pivo
Stellantis CEO Carlos Tavares Steps Down From Jeep Maker; Shares Slide.
Chrysler parent Stellantis STLA -6.63%decrease; red down pointing triangle said Chief Executive Carlos Tavares is stepping down, effective immediately, after the automaker’s sales and profit sharply declined this year.
Shares dropped about 7% in Monday trading. Stellantis’s shares have fallen more than 40% this year. The company said Sunday that it wasn’t changing the financial guidance that it gave in October.
https://www.wsj.com/business/autos/ceo- ... _permalink