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Fuel, Food, and Facilities

Posted: Dec 10 2024 8:24 am
by chumley
For those of us that travel beyond the local city hikes, it's common that a stop is required along the way. Sometimes your morning coffee has activated the ambm. Other times you just need to top off the tank for a reasonable price without irritating inconvenience. Friendly? Quick? Clean? Etc. Anybody have pointers on where you like to stop, and where you don't?

I'll start with a few of my observations:

When the big new Circle K opened in Superior a few years back it seemed like a nice upgrade for that part of the world. Fuel is usually less expensive since it isn't subject to the valley's strict blend requirements. It's often busy, and more recently the men's room, at least, is to the point that I would rather pull over in the desert than go in there. Don't do it.

The Love's in Cordes Lakes has nice restrooms. Many truck stops do. It's nice to have multiple stalls that are well maintained and frequently cleaned. Fuel is usually less expensive than in town, making it a convenient stop on the way out of town, or back home. But this place is a near-constant madhouse. Every pump is occupied, people leave their vehicles parked at pumps and go inside forever, and courtesy in the lot outside is nonexistent. Inside, the employees make up for the customers. The store is stocked with everything you need and it's still my go-to at Cordes. Apparently my opinion is not unique, which is why it's always so busy.

There's a Pilot in Eloy that hasn't updated their fuel pumps since the 90s. It's amazing that they actually take credit cards at the pump. Last time I made the mistake of stopping here I decided to make sure to set a reminder to choose another of the many nearby options next time.

In Payson, the newest Circle K at the south end of town has devolved into the same unpleasantness that Superior provides. That first Speedway is awful. The bathroom might be the worst in town and the last few times I've stopped there they have had problems with pumps not working, and payment systems not working. These are sort of critical functions. The Speedway by Home Depot is pretty good, as is the Maverick, but both have single-stall restrooms, which is a negative when you have a car full of hikers heading to a trailhead. The Pilot on Vicksburg Road heading west is a typical stop and is otherwise not remarkable, which in this case is probably good.

In general, I find that QT has the most pleasant stores but I think they're only found in town. On the road, Maverick is usually a good experience. Giant used to be ok but since Speedway took them over they've really gone downhill. Circle K's are hit or miss depending on location. For the truck stops, I tend to go toward Love's as they have big stores, usually partner with good food chains, and keep their facilities clean.

Do you have any go-to stops along Arizona's highways? Flagstaff, Prescott, Globe, Pinetop, etc.? Any that you avoid at all costs? Let's make road trip stops great again! :)

Re: Fuel, Food, and Facilities

Posted: Dec 10 2024 8:53 am
by LindaAnn
Out of town, I usually choose based on if ethanol-free is available, so Maverik is often the winner. Plus, I like their owner.

If I can’t find E0, I then choose based on how much I like or dislike the station owner or branded supplier. After two decades, I know a huge percentage of station owners and always remember who has annoyed me. Depending on the company structure, a huge percentage of branded stations are independently owned, basically a franchise. I got the pleasure of dealing with the actual owner, who almost always fall into one of the two possible stereotypes.

As far as truck stops, just to be spiteful, I usually choose Loves over Pilot Flying J. It was even more fun when I had my fuel card and Pilot could see in my transactions that I was going to Loves nearly all the time. I loved that the company putting money into my bank account every week could see that I was always getting fuel from their biggest competitor. TA is also fine for me to stop at, many of our former truckstops (pre-Pilot Flying J days) were sold to TA years ago, so we’ve had a close relationship with them over the years.

If I’m in Phoenix or Tucson, I often choose QT.

Otherwise, I just choose based on a matter of convenience—what’s nearby and what’s easy to get in and out of. When I’m traveling between AZ & ID, I usually always stop at the places I know have good areas for the dog, which is most often Maverik or Loves.

Re: Fuel, Food, and Facilities

Posted: Dec 10 2024 12:28 pm
by Alston_Neal
Interesting with all the biz trips, camping and hiking forays I've never thought of this before. So all can add is Gallup..no.

Re: Fuel, Food, and Facilities

Posted: Dec 10 2024 12:29 pm
by RedRoxx44
I had a bad experience a few years back in Willcox at the Texaco there. Apparently had a skimmer on one of the pumps there. The bank refunded the money taken ( 500.00 at a Fry's fuel stop in Phoenix) after they did their due diligence but it's a pain to get a new debit card etc. Fortunately other options there now but I sometimes pay cash at some of the places that I think are suspect.
Bathrooms--- I'd rather dig a cathole in the desert than go in most of the gas station bathrooms I've seen.

Re: Fuel, Food, and Facilities

Posted: Dec 10 2024 1:27 pm
by Alston_Neal
Chums I found your place, plus it has your Spirit animals.

Re: Fuel, Food, and Facilities

Posted: Dec 10 2024 2:18 pm
by big_load
My choice is boring. I go for whatever is most convenient at the moment. I've done four road trips of 5k miles or more in the last two years.

To spice things up a bit, let me say that I tried to visit Buc-ees three times in different locations just to see what the big deal is. All three times, I couldn't find a place to park or an open pump, and each time there were enough cars circling the lot to fill it half again. It's crazy.

Re: Fuel, Food, and Facilities

Posted: Dec 10 2024 7:41 pm
by chumley
big_load wrote:Buc-ees
a cultural phenomenon I will never fully comprehend.

Re: Fuel, Food, and Facilities

Posted: Dec 10 2024 8:30 pm
by CannondaleKid
Cathole or gas station for a bathroom? We'd have to be pretty desperate for the latter!

When gas prices were higher we always fueled up where it was cheaper, Superior or Globe to the East and Payson when going North.

In Payson after three attempts months apart at Maverik I gave up even trying... their pumps would never accept my credit card, so each time I hit up the Speedway by Home Depot and never had payment issues. (And of course never used either for bathroom)

Re: Fuel, Food, and Facilities

Posted: Dec 10 2024 8:43 pm
by LosDosSloFolks
Although not very common outside of metro areas, I have a proclivity to "dine" at Waffle House. For the uninitiated, imagine a gas station restroom that serves up waffles.

Re: Fuel, Food, and Facilities

Posted: Dec 10 2024 9:13 pm
by Alston_Neal
@LosDosSloFolks
I've known you for at least 30 years and suddenly you come into focus.

Re: Fuel, Food, and Facilities

Posted: Dec 10 2024 9:27 pm
by Pivo
@Alston_Neal
Gallop is a ShHoe

Re: Fuel, Food, and Facilities

Posted: Dec 10 2024 9:30 pm
by Pivo
LosDosSloFolks wrote:I have a proclivity to "dine" at Waffle House.
You have martial arts skills.

Re: Fuel, Food, and Facilities

Posted: Dec 10 2024 9:49 pm
by big_load
LosDosSloFolks wrote: Dec 10 2024 8:43 pm Although not very common outside of metro areas, I have a proclivity to "dine" at Waffle House. For the uninitiated, imagine a gas station restroom that serves up waffles.
I do enjoy Waffle House, although each visit resembles an episode of "Cops".

Re: Fuel, Food, and Facilities

Posted: Dec 10 2024 9:53 pm
by big_load
chumley wrote: Dec 10 2024 7:41 pm
big_load wrote:Buc-ees
a cultural phenomenon I will never fully comprehend.
The closest thing we have in the NE is Wawa, but they're much smaller and less crowded. The only similarity is how inexplicably people adore them. It must be the pork roll (sorry, Taylor ham).

Re: Fuel, Food, and Facilities

Posted: Dec 10 2024 9:56 pm
by LosDosSloFolks
@big_load
I think of it as "dinner and a show".

Re: Fuel, Food, and Facilities

Posted: Dec 11 2024 5:13 am
by SpiderLegs
I've been doing some sort of outside sales role or similar that requires driving around for almost 30 years and mostly in Arizona. My go to pit stop without hesitation is always QT Mart. Even the worst QT near my office which is full of zombies on fent is generally cleaner than any Circle K. Circle K has attempted to make super stations in an attempt to compete with QT Mart and within a month or two of being built the bathrooms are a horror show.

Re: Fuel, Food, and Facilities

Posted: Dec 11 2024 7:48 am
by chumley
I think many hikers (and especially frequent backpackers) have no problem -- and may prefer -- digging a cathole when nature calls over any public facility. But in my experience this isn't realistic particularly often. Most roads are highly impacted and don't provide particularly good options for such things. If you're on any of the major routes out of our population centers (10, 17, 87, 60, 69, 89, 260, etc.) it seems that leaving the route and driving far enough to find a responsible spot to dig a hole is a bit of an inconvenience. It's interesting that the infrastructure in place is sometimes so unpleasant that we would -- and do -- consider the alternate.

Re: Fuel, Food, and Facilities

Posted: Dec 11 2024 8:51 am
by LosDosSloFolks
chumley wrote:Most roads are highly impacted
The same holds true for most hikers.

Re: Fuel, Food, and Facilities

Posted: Dec 11 2024 9:18 am
by chumley
@LosDosSloFolks
I think it's when the opposite is true that this issue arises.

Re: Fuel, Food, and Facilities

Posted: Dec 11 2024 9:21 am
by Pivo
big_load wrote:I do enjoy Waffle House, although each visit resembles an episode of "Cops".
Question on Waffle House job application: Do you know how to fight?