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Lewis & Clark

Posted: Oct 17 2003 4:33 pm
by montezumawell
Well? What is your opinion on Lewis & Clark as the Bicentennial of their 1803-1806 approaches?

Let's air it out here.

Are Lewis & Clark being hyped:
Too much? Too little? Don't Know? Whatever?

J&S

L&C

Posted: Oct 17 2003 7:03 pm
by azrocks
I'm guessing Lewis @ Clark
There's a great website at

http://www.nps.gov/jeff/LewisClark2/LCIndex.html

These guys were sent on an 8000 mile hike to find out what
the US had bought with the Louisiana Purchase, sold their
clothes for food and learned to live like the Indians.

Posted: Oct 18 2003 8:50 am
by Daryl
http://www.lc-motors.be/

L&C motors? Nice road bikes but I have no idea what they are saying?

Posted: Oct 18 2003 9:58 am
by Nighthiker
Lewis and Clark had great publicist. Montezumawell, threw a dart at the map. Looks like I will be setting up base camp at Beaver Creek Campground in the next couple of weeks and exploring the area.

Posted: Oct 18 2003 11:48 am
by mttgilbert
Librarys & Computing, Language & Culture, Language and Computation, L&C Coins, L&C Motors, L&C 350watt PSU, L&C Insurance Consultant Limited, L&C Services Inc, L&C Advertising, L&C Mortgages, L&C Teacher Institute, L&C Planning studio, L&C News, L&C Power Supply, L&C Tables, L&C Fixtures.

At least thats what I found on google...

I'm going to guess though that you were talking about Lewis and Clark.

My two cents; Those guys were amazing. Yeah they did a lot of trading for food, but come on. All the way accross the country, no maps, nothing but some vague descriptions from indians. Not only did they do it but they managed to estimate their travel distance within just a few miles. Now thats impressive. I can't even imagine what they must have been going through when they finally left the river for the mountains and found nothing on the other side but more mountains. They had intended to find the ocean on the other side. I think most people would have turned around and gone back but they pushed on. Talk about the quintessential backpackers.

L&C

Posted: Oct 19 2003 12:42 am
by pfredricks
Please Montezumawell what do you ever mean by L&C-the Mensa candidates and I are not clear.
Personally, I think this is some kind of cruel joke. Why not just ask a straight question? Or maybe, I'm not supposed to answer if I dont know what it really means. In which case, I guess I better get out of here.

But, I cant help but write one more thing. This question seems a little passive aggressive to me. Which reminds me of a joke

A visibly upset wife asked her husband
"Why do you always answer my questions with another question."
The husband thought briefly and answered
"Why not?"

Re: L&C

Posted: Oct 19 2003 1:12 am
by Rodney
pfredricks wrote:Personally, I think this is some kind of cruel joke.
This is what they refer to in the Television Business as a tease...in other words, stand by for something of very little or no value! I would have to agree with you pfredricks...since this is a hiking forum, and there are no commercial breaks, bumper teasers really don't fit in.

Re: L&C

Posted: Oct 19 2003 1:42 pm
by pfredricks
Rodney wrote:This is what they refer to in the Television Business as a tease.
Another Diamondbacks game went down to the wire in a heartstopping thriller. Did they pull out another win? We'll have details at the end of the broadcast. But first...................

Teasers are getting ridiculous and ubiquitous. (is that a Jesse Jacksonism?)

Re: L&C

Posted: Oct 19 2003 3:07 pm
by Rodney
pfredricks wrote:Teasers are getting ridiculous and ubiquitous. (is that a Jesse Jacksonism?)
I agree! At least, in Television, they usually only make you wait 2 minutes before telling you what it was that wasn't important enough to tell you 2 minutes ago. :lol:

Yes, it was an "L&C" IQ Test!

Posted: Oct 20 2003 1:17 pm
by montezumawell
Yes, we purposely put the cryptic "L&C" in the title. Call it a tease. That's OK. We guess that's true.

We were curious as to whether the term "L&C" had any relevance on this list. Conclusion--not much.

We spent a couple of months this summer up on the Lewis & Clark "trail, route, or whatever you want to call it." We ourselves had not been exposed to the "L&C" terminology until this summer. It took us awhile to pick up the lingo.

People who are "hooked" on the Corps of Discovery's epic expedition are called "Clarkies." Hardly anyone along the "trail," if you can rightly call it that, uses the full mouthful, "Lewis and Clark." It's mostly "L&C" or "The Clarkies."

What we learned this summer is that states and communities associated in anyway with "L&C" are going "ga-ga" over the Bicentennial now underway. The promo for "L&C" is borderline out of control. Practically every business along the trail touts some sort of tie in like this sign for a chiropractic business: "Lewis and Clark felt well adjusted here."

We felt inundated by all the "L&C" stuff. It was almost too much. But we figured that few people this far away from the "trail," if that's a fair term, would either recognize or care about "L&C." And so it is.

We got a real kick out of some of the posts on this topic and we appreciate your taking the time to pen them.

They say ("they" being a boatload of self-appointed experts) that over 5-million people are going to "visit" the "trail," whatever that means, between now and late 2006. We suspect that the tsunami of "L&C" promo and publicity will really hit the newspapers, magazines and airwaves in '05. Expect to see stuff on the cover of Outside Magazine like, "Top 10 Secret Backpack Trips on the L&C Trail."

Eddie Bauer will probably come out with a commemorative line. It is almost certain to surpass total overload and become nauseating to the max.

Granted their journey was a true epic and an awesome adventure but it's commercialization in the coming months and years will test our tolerance for such things.

And one thing's for sure, most of the Indian Nations are not real happy about the whole deal. They will readily and very publicly state that "L&C" was the beginning of the end of their cultures. And some of them that we witnessed personally are still enormously upset about the whole deal.

Well, that's what this whole "exercise was all about. Thanks for taking our goofy topic title in stride. Happy Trails and Hike ON!

J&S

Posted: Oct 21 2003 12:45 am
by Rodney
Well...before this thread, I thought Lewis & Clark were something special. Now I see that they were not explorers...but, mere pawns doing what the government told them to do. Much like today, only the government has many million more pawns to make the politicians life worth living! Geez...87 BILLION dollars means nothing to those that have their million dollar homes. And...for the millions that don't, they have no say. Lewis & Clark would be proud of what their real goal has produced! :lol:

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Posted: Oct 21 2003 10:46 am
by plummer150
Hmm, hard to say. Too little I think. Although I havn't really kept up with the times since classes started back up.