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Anyone want to one a town? I'll check my PowerBall tickets now that I have something to spend it on.

Bryan

I hope they are able to sell it and not close it down, and that the new owners keep the recipes. They do have the The BEST cheeseburgers in the world.

I remember in the late 70's riding my motorcycle out there, wonderful curving road for a motorcycle ... especially if there weren't any slow cars in the way. We didn't speed, but the ride was definitely more fun without cars.

I still recommend/send people out that way, just haven't been out there myself in a couple of years.

I'm with yah on the PowerBall tickets, except I don't have any to check, I may have to pick up a couple tickets now though.

how much could Tortilla Flats possibly be worth? Like 46 bucks?
Seriously, if the town has a post office it must be official right? Is it even possible to sell a town? Such a nice little stop on the back way to Rosie. I have only been there twice in 25 years to access the Fish Creek trail. It sorta reminds me of a micro-version of Carefree, before it was populated.

I probably would bid if it was Sunflower.

for 5.5 mil, you only get the remaining 17 years on a 20 year lease.

hegstrom wrote:We didn't speed, but the ride was definitely more fun without cars.

It still is!
Problem is, there's usually either some bozo doing 2 MPH in front of you, or some other bozo riding your tail wanting to do 90.

hey Wiz, I thought you were 100. Been answering those "HGH" emails, have you?

It will be interesting to see if they ever get their arms around reality as to price. But hey, there's one born every minute!

It's probably a viable business, given the location -- they probably sell a small fortune in bait, beer, and gas. As long as you could get reliable employees, you could probably make money at it.

They own the buildings, but not the land -- it's a forest service lease. This means when the forest service lease is up, the forest service can either opt to renew the lease if they feel it's a good use for the land or if they DON'T renew the lease, the owner of the buildings is financially responsible for removing them and returning the property to its natural state.

Considering this is a riparian setting, "returning the property to its natural state" could be an expensive proposition indeed if there's any pollution or damage to the creek found. (They sell gas, right?)

It's a crapshoot as to whether or not the forest service would renew the lease. From a practical standpoint, Tortilla Flat NEEDS to be there, because of all the folks who do things like forget to gas up, forget their water, get hungry, need a phone, car's overheating, etc. and ad nauseam. It's the only store along th Apache Trail until you get to the lakes, and there's a real need for a concessionaire there. I can't imagine this will change in 20 years -- AJ will probably be built out right to the edge of the Supes but from that point on, it's all wilderness.

OTOH, who knows what the environmental ethics will be? For all we know, in 20 years, the "leave no trace" ethic will be expanded to the "remove all traces" ethic ... and the forest service will want Tortilla Flat out of there.

Another concern I would have, incidently, is that Tortilla Flat has some serious flooding problems iirc my state history correctly. It's been a "town" (not incorporated) since the 1800's, but I do believe it's been scoured down to bedrock a few times by flooding. They may or may not have moved the town afterwards; I can't remember and I can't find the right book on that.

Leva