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Superstition Segment Mileage - info needed

Posted: Apr 05 2006 9:59 pm
by Brittany
After planning a custom superstition loop backpacking trip, I have come to the conclusion that there is not enough straight-foward mileage information for the different segments of the trails in the sups. I may be missing a great resource that is out there, but between my three major resources (Hiker's Guide to the Sups...., this website, the Tonto National Forest website), I became frustrated with my inability to find easy access to mileage for specific trail segments.

So, after hours of research using my three main resources, I have been able to pin down the mileage of several segments in the Western Sups, and I would appreciate any help in verifying my info is correct, and adding to the missing info. Also, if I have been wasting my time and a resource like this already exists, please let me know where to find it.

Thanks!

102 Peralta Trail - 6.2 miles
2.3 Peralta TH to Freemont Saddle
3.9 Freemont Saddle to Dustchman's Trail

103 Boulder Canyon - 7.3 miles
5.2 Canyon Lake TH to Calvary
2.1 Calvary to Dutchman's Trail

104 Dutchman's Trail - 18.2 miles
2.6 Peralta TH to Coffee Flat Trail
1.9 Coffee Flat to Whiskey Spring Trail
? Whiskey Spring Trail to Bluff Springs Trail
2.3 Bluff Springs Trail to Red Tanks Trail
1.3 Red Tanks to Peter's Trail
? Peter's Trail to Calvary Trail
? Calvary Trail to Bull Pass E.
? Bull Pass E. to Terrapin
1.1 Terrapin to Peralta
? Peralta to W. Bull Pass/Boulder/Black Mesa
? Black Mesa to First Water TH

105 Peter's Trail - 7.0 miles

106 JF Trail - 10.1 miles
0.7 Tortilla Flat TH to Hoolie Bacon
5.3 Hoolie Bacon to Rogers Canyon (Tortilla Pass)
4.1 Roger's Canyon to Woodbury TH

107 Red Tanks - 9.9 miles
? Coffee Flats Trail (Dripping Springs) to Hoolie Bacon
? Hoolie Bacon to Whiskey Spring
2 Whiskey Spring to Dutchman's

108 Coffee Flat Trail - 7.6 miles
4.4 Woodbury TH to Red Tanks
3.2 Red Tanks to Dutchman's

111 Hoolie Bacon - 4.0 miles

129 Bull Pass - 1.6 miles

234 Terrapin - 2.9 miles

235 Bluff Springs - 3.4 miles
2.3 Peralta TH to Terrapin
1.1 Terrapin to Dutchman's

236 Second Water Trail - 3.3 miles
? First Water TH to Black Mesa
? Black Mesa to Boulder Canyon Trail

238 Whiskey Spring Trail - 1.8 miles

239 Calvary Trail - 3.2 miles

241 Black Mesa - 3.0 miles

Posted: Apr 05 2006 10:01 pm
by joebartels
http://gorp.away.com/gorp/resource/us_w ... _super.htm

Beartooth Map available at REI or Wide World of Maps

Posted: Apr 05 2006 10:06 pm
by Brittany
In response to joe bartels' reply:

I checked the GORP website, but haven't found anything that has mileage for segments of the trails. Am I missing something?

Posted: Apr 05 2006 10:08 pm
by joebartels
seems pretty straight forward...
Short Trails
Hieroglyphic Trail 1.1 miles to Indian petroglyphs.
Woodbury Trail 2.0 miles of old mining road.
Fire Line Trail 3.6 miles. Damaged and steep.
Bull Pass Trail 1.6 mile connecting trail.
Terrapin Trail 2.9 miles. Interesting.
Bluff Spring Trail 3.4 miles. Popular.
Second Water Trail 3.3 miles through Garden Valley.
Whiskey Trail 2.1 miles into LaBarge Canyon.
Cavalry Trail 3.2 mile connecting trail.
Black Mesa Trail 3miles. Good views.
Campaign Trail 2.2miles. Scenic and little-used.
Paradise Trail 2.5 miles through little-known area.
Plow Saddle Trail 0.4 mile connecting trail.

Medium Trails
Peralta Trail 6.2 miles. One of the most heavily used in the Arizona.
Boulder Canyon Trail 7.3 miles. Rough but interesting.
Peter's Trail 7 miles. Excellent vistas.
Coffee Flat Trail 7.6 miles linking western & central parts of wilderness.
Rogers Canyon Trail 4.5 miles. Scenic, with lots of creek crossings.
Hoolie Bacon Trail 4 miles. May be difficult to follow (cool!)
Frog Tanks Trail 6.8 miles. Very scenic, and little used.
Reavis Gap Trail 4.7 miles. Scenic but rocky.
Tule Canyon Trail 4.5 miles. Steep but rocky.
Rock Creek Trail 4.8 miles. Rough.
Haunted Canyon Trail 7.8 miles. Isn't the name enough?
Bull Basin Trail 4.0 mile climb to unknown basin.
Spencer Spring Trail 4.6 miles parallel to Spencer Canyon.
Cuff Button Trail 6.0 miles. Easy to follow and little visited.

Long Trails
Dutchman's Trail 18.2 miles. Meandering.
JF Trail 10.2 main north-south trail.
Red Tanks Trail 8.9 miles. Rough and hard to follow.
Reavis Trail 15.3 miles. Partially on old roadway.
Two Bar Ridge Trail 8.3 miles through least visited part of wilderness.
West Pinto Trail 9 miles on west fork of Pinto Creek.
Pinto Peak Trail 8.5 miles. Isolated.

Short Trails
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101 - Hieroglyphic Trail
1.1 miles in length. An easy hike up to an area with Indian petroglyphics. Trail begins at the Forest boundary. Access to this point is across State Trust land and private land. Respect private property rights.

114 - Woodbury Trail
2.0 miles in length. The east portion is an old mining road. The west portion provides access to Fraser Canyon and the Coffee Flat Trail 108.
Elevation: between 3,120 feet and 3,850 feet.
Termini: Trail 108 and Road 172A.

118 - Fire Line Trail
3.6 miles in length. This trail was impacted by bulldozers fighting the Iron Burn of 1966. Sections of this trail have serious erosion damage and the eastern section is very steep. It is Not recommended for horses.
Elevation: between 4,400 feet and 5,480 feet.
Termini: Trail 109 and Trail 213.

129 - Bull Pass Trail
1.6 miles in length. A steep, eroded trail that provides a route between Boulder Basin and LaBarge Canyon.
Elevation: between 2,280 feet and 2,750 feet.
Termini: Trail 104 and Trail 104 again.

234 - Terrapin Trail
2.9 miles in length. An interesting trail on the east side of Weaver's Needle. Portions are steep, eroded and difficult to follow.
Elevation: between 2610 feet and 3,410 feet.
Termini: Trail 235 and Trail 104.

235 - Bluff Spring Trail
3.4 miles in length. A heavily-used trail that is steep and rocky in spots; Not recommended for horses.
Elevation: between 2,410 feet and 3,210 feet.
Termini: Trail 104 a short distance from Peralta Trailhead and Trail 104 again near Bluff Spring.

236 - Second Water Trail
3.3 miles in length. A heavily-used trail that passes through Garden Valley. Lowest elevation 1,940 feet; highest elevation 2,420 feet.
Termini: Trail 104 near First Water Trailhead and Trail 103.

238 - Whiskey Spring:
2.1 miles in length. An easy trail which drops into LaBarge Canyon.
Elevation: between 1,940 feet and 2,420 feet.
Termini: Trail 104 and Trail 107.

239 - Cavalry Trail
3.2 miles in length. Crosses from LaBarge Canyon to Boulder Canyon. May be difficult to locate at creek crossings.
Elevation: between 2,080 feet and 2,450 feet.
Termini: Trail 104 and Trail 103.

241 - Black Mesa Trail
3.0 miles in length. Interesting views of Superstition Mountain. This is an easy trail except for the last section which is rocky and steep in spots.
Elevation: between 2,270 feet and 2,750 feet.
Termini: Trail 236 and Trail 104.

256 - Campaign Trail
2.2 miles in length. A scenic but little-used trail. Parallels Campaign Creek and is subject to flooding.
Elevation: between 2,400 feet and 4,040 feet.
Termini: Campaign Trailhead and Trail 213.

271 - Paradise Trail
2.5 miles in length. Passes through wild little-visited country in the southeast corner of the Wilderness.
Elevation: between 3,410 feet and 4,880 feet.
Termini: Road 287A just east of Miles Ranch and Trail 203.

287 - Plow Saddle Trail
0.4 miles in length. A short connecting trail in the north fork of Paradise Canyon.
Elevation: between 4,400 feet and 4,780 feet.
Termini: Trail 109 and Trail 112.

Medium Trails
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102 - Peralta Trail
6.2 miles in length. One of the more heavily-used trails in the state of Arizona. From Peralta Trailhead to Fremont Saddle, the trail is often down to bed-rock and provides difficult footing. Not recommended for horses.
Elevation: between 2,400 feet and 3,760 feet.
Termini: Peralta Trailhead (Road 77) and Trail 104.

103 - Boulder Canyon Trail
7.3 miles in length. A rough but interesting trail providing several scenic vistas. Part is located adjacent to Boulder Creek, and the stream crossings are subject to flooding. Not recommended for horses due to rocks.
Elevation: between 1,680 feet and 2,300 feet.
Termini: Canyon Lake Trailhead (Highway 88) and Trail 104.

105 - Peter's Trail
7.0 miles in length, with some excellent vistas. Parts are vague and a little difficult to follow.
Elevation: between 3,100 feet and 3,800 feet.
Termini: Tortilla Trailhead (Road 213) and Trail 104.

108 - Coffee Flat Trail
7.6 miles in length. An interesting trail linking the western and central parts of the Wilderness. Section in Randolph and Fraser Canyon is subject to heavy flood damage.
Elevation: between 2,350 feet and 3,120 feet.
Termini: Trail 104 and Trail 114 (near JF Headquarters).

110 - Rogers Canyon Trail
4.5 miles in length. A scenic trail with a lot of creek crossings. Portions are steep and can be difficult for horses. The segment in Rogers Canyon is subject to heavy flood damage.
Elevation: between 3,680 feet and 4,600 feet.
Termini: Trail 109 and Trail 106 at Tortilla Pass.

111 - Hoolie Bacon Trail
4.0 miles in length. A little-used trail named after an old-time local rancher. Some sections may be overgrown and difficult to follow.
Elevation: between 3,200 feet and 3,920 feet.
Termini: Trail 106 south of Tortilla Trailhead and Trail 107.

112 - Frog Tanks Trail
6.8 miles in length. A very scenic but little-used trail. Eastern section is old roadway; southern section is difficult (with one very steep part), and is Not recommended for horses. Section in Rogers Canyon is subject to heavy flood damage.
Elevation: between 3,300 feet and 4,820 feet.
Termini: Trail 109 and Trail 110.

117 - Reavis Gap Trail
4.7 miles in length. An interesting but rocky trail (with good views). Section east of Reavis Gap is very steep.
Elevation: between 3,280 feet and 5,250 feet.
Termini: Trail 256 (near Campaign Trailhead) and Trail 109.

122 - Tule Canyon Trail
4.5 miles in length. This trail provides access into the northeastern portion of the Wilderness. Much of the trail is steep and rocky, but views are excellent.
Elevation: between 2,800 feet and 4,800 feet.
Termini: Tule Trailhead (Road 449) and Trail 119.

195 - Rock Creek Trail
4.8 miles in length. A rough trail that follows Rock Creek through the southeast corner of the Wilderness. Subject to flood damage from Rock Creek.
Elevation: between 3,440 feet and 4,600 feet.
Termini: 212 near Miles Ranch Trailhead, Road 650.

203 - Haunted Canyon Trail
7.8 miles in length. Passes through wild little- visited country. Northern portion is in fair shape, but eastern end is difficult to follow. East of the Tony Ranch is an area Not recommended for horses.
Elevation: between 3,200 feet and 4,900 feet.
Termini: Road 287A southeast of Miles Ranch and Road 287.

270 - Bull Basin Trail
4.0 miles in length. Climbs to a little-visited but interesting basin.
Elevation: between 3,560 feet and 5,100 feet.
Termini: Trail 195 and Trail 203.

275 - Spencer Spring Trail
4.6 miles in length. Parallels Spencer Spring Canyon and is subject to flooding. Parts are difficult to locate and steep.
Elevation: between 3,660 feet and 5,000 feet.
Termini: Trail 212 and Road 650.

276 - Cuff Button Trail
6.0 miles in length. A easy-to-follow trail that is rarely visited. South section is very steep and may be overgrown.
Elevation: between 3,680 feet and 4,600 feet.
Termini: Trail 305 and Trail 212.

Long Trails
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104 - Dutchman's Trail
18.2 miles in length. A long trail that meanders through the Wilderness, intersecting many other trails. Generally in good condition, but parts are heavily used. Lowest elevation 2,280 feet; highest elevation 3,250 feet.
Termini: Peralta Trailhead (Road 77) and First Water Trailhead (Road 78).

106 - JF Trail
10.2 miles in length. A main north-south trail named after Jack Fraser -pioneer cattleman in this area.
Elevation: between 3,250 feet and 4,560 feet.
Termini: Woodbury Trailhead (Road 172) and Tortilla Trailhead (Road 213).

107 - Red Tanks Trail
8.9 miles in length. Portions are rough and difficult to follow. The section through the upper LaBarge Box is steep and narrow, and is definitely Not recommended for horses.
Elevation: between 2,600 feet and 3,680 feet.
Termini: Trail 108 and Trail 104.

109 - Reavis Ranch:
15.3 miles in length. The northern 2/3rds of this trail is the old roadway to a former homestead. Southern section crosses the Iron Burn of 1966 (partially reburned in 1984).
Elevation: between 3,620 feet and 5,360 feet. .
Termini: Reavis Trailhead (Road 212) and Rogers Trough Trailhead (Road 172A).

119 - Two Bar Ridge Trail
8.3 miles in length. A scenic trail in one of the least visited parts of the Wilderness. Parts are rocky, overgrown and/or difficult to follow.
Elevation: between 4,200 feet and 4,900 feet.
Termini: Road 83 near Pinyon Mountain and Trail 117.

212 - West Pinto Trail
9.0 miles in length. A scenic trail mostly located in the west fork of Pinto Creek. Steep grades on portions near Iron Mountain. This east section is in the canyon bottom which is subject to flooding and may be difficult to follow.
Elevation: between 3,440 feet and 5,500 feet.
Termini: Miles Ranch Trailhead (Road 287A) and Trail 109 near Rogers Trough Trailhead.

213 - Pinto Peak Trail
8.5 miles in length. A little-used trail that traverses an isolated area in the east end of the Wilderness.
Elevation: between 3,680 feet and 5,320 feet.
Termini: Trail 212 and Road 306.

Posted: Apr 06 2006 7:59 am
by mttgilbert
If for some reason Joes post is insufficient :o you may want to go pick up that bear tooth map that he mentionted, it has about the most complete (and accurate, at least by GPS standards) information I have found.

Posted: Apr 06 2006 8:54 pm
by Brittany
In response to matt gilbert's reply: I do have the map, but I am looking for a little more detail. I may just have to take this on as a project and use it as an excuse to spend more time out there.

Thanks!

Posted: Apr 06 2006 10:45 pm
by big_load
In response to Brittany's reply:

That's a project I'd like to tackle: personally verify all those distances. Then keep checking to see if they changed.

Posted: Apr 07 2006 7:45 am
by hikeaz
Brittany wrote:In response to matt gilbert's reply: I do have the map, but I am looking for a little more detail. Thanks!
TOPO! software has a measuring tool whereby you can pinpoint mileage(s)between any two (or more) points. You can also ascertain or set waypoints.

Posted: Apr 09 2006 5:23 pm
by azhiker96
Beartooth has always served me well in the Superstitions. Mileage to the nearest 1/10 mile is close enough for me. It also has elevation profiles for most of the trails for folks who don't want to count contour lines. But Kurt's suggestion of TOPO is a good one. You can plot any course you like and get the distance. I believe you can print out elevation profiles for the route as well. Have fun!