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Four Corners? Oh, it's just around the corner....
Posted: Apr 21 2009 5:28 pm
by hikeaz
updated 9:57 a.m. MT, Tues., April 21, 2009
SALT LAKE CITY - Tourists who think they're putting a hand or foot in each of four U.S. states at the Four Corners area are apparently missing the mark — by about 2.5 miles.
National Geodetic Survey officials say the Four Corners marker showing the intersection of Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico and Utah is about 2.5 miles (4 kilometers) west of where it should be, the Deseret News reported.
The only place in the United States where four state boundaries come together was first surveyed by the government in 1868 during the initial survey of Colorado's southern boundary. The survey was inaccurate.
Officials said Monday the accurate location lies to the east of U.S. 160 in Colorado and northeast of the San Juan River as it flows into New Mexico.
Re: Four Corners? Oh, it's just around the corner....
Posted: Apr 21 2009 5:38 pm
by Grasshopper
I heard this on the radio this morning.. wonder if the OLD and NEW boundary are on private property.. if so, could have one owner now
and another :GB: (thinking tourists.. $$$)!!
Re: Four Corners? Oh, it's just around the corner....
Posted: Apr 21 2009 5:57 pm
by fricknaley
i'm gonna go buy it

.....i wish (i'd keep it accessible, i swear)
Re: Four Corners? Oh, it's just around the corner....
Posted: Apr 21 2009 7:49 pm
by Jeffshadows
OOPS!

Re: Four Corners? Oh, it's just around the corner....
Posted: Apr 21 2009 7:55 pm
by big_load
I read the story on MSNBC, but I just can't believe they would unknowingly be that far off. Somebody (more likely an army of somebodies) must have been guarding the secret for a hundred years.
Re: Four Corners? Oh, it's just around the corner....
Posted: Apr 21 2009 7:59 pm
by Jeffshadows
The Knights Quadrouplar

Re: Four Corners? Oh, it's just around the corner....
Posted: Apr 21 2009 8:09 pm
by azbackpackr
Oh, well. Four corners is just the place you get to if you miss the turn at Mexican Water on your way to Moab! ;)
Re: Four Corners? Oh, it's just around the corner....
Posted: Apr 21 2009 8:25 pm
by Dschur
Wonder if it is the same surveyors that did the southern border of AZ. It was supposed to go straight across but the story goes that the surveyors partied too hard the night before and then started out in the morning a little bit off. AZ or New Mexico territory at the time was supposed to get the gulf of CA. Or so it was told to me in AZ history class...
Re: Four Corners? Oh, it's just around the corner....
Posted: Apr 21 2009 9:05 pm
by big_load
Jeff MacE wrote:The Knights Quadrouplar

I'd like to see their uniforms.

Re: Four Corners? Oh, it's just around the corner....
Posted: Apr 21 2009 9:38 pm
by azdesertfather
so does that mean arizona gets to take over some of colorado's land?

Re: Four Corners? Oh, it's just around the corner....
Posted: Apr 21 2009 10:10 pm
by PaleoRob
Grasshopper wrote:I heard this on the radio this morning.. wonder if the OLD and NEW boundary are on private property.. if so, could have one owner now
and another :GB: (thinking tourists.. $$$)!!
Not really. 3 of the four corners are on the Navajo Nation, the Colorado portion belongs to the Ute Mountain Utes.
Re: Four Corners? Oh, it's just around the corner....
Posted: Apr 21 2009 10:22 pm
by big_load
I hope the Sipapu is really where it belongs.
Re: Four Corners? Oh, it's just around the corner....
Posted: Apr 21 2009 11:13 pm
by hippiepunkpirate
You'd think with all these people running around with GPS units, somebody would have brought it up.
Re: Four Corners? Oh, it's just around the corner....
Posted: Apr 22 2009 12:04 am
by chumley
Wait? So I'm making an åss of myself in the middle of nowhere for no reason?

Re: Four Corners? Oh, it's just around the corner....
Posted: Apr 22 2009 1:30 am
by hippiepunkpirate
chumley wrote:Wait? So I'm making an åss of myself in the middle of nowhere for no reason?

Yep. But don't worry, you are not alone! Not that I've done it or anything.
Re: Four Corners? Oh, it's just around the corner....
Posted: Apr 22 2009 8:33 am
by Grasshopper
chumley wrote:Wait? So I'm making an åss of myself in the middle of nowhere for no reason?
..and don't they(?) charge something $$ for this opportunity?
Re: Four Corners? Oh, it's just around the corner....
Posted: Apr 22 2009 9:02 am
by chumley
Grasshopper wrote:..and don't they(?) charge something $$ for this opportunity?
Yes. "They" = The Navajo Nation, as it is part of their parks system. Let's not discuss the irony of four US states joining together on the land of a sovereign nation ...
Re: Four Corners? Oh, it's just around the corner....
Posted: Apr 22 2009 9:02 am
by Jeffshadows
Fraud!!

Re: Four Corners? Oh, it's just around the corner....
Posted: Apr 22 2009 7:44 pm
by big_load
Oops again! It's only 1807 feet off.
In an April 20 story about the location of the Four Corners marker, The Associated Press erroneously reported that the monument is 2.5 miles west of where it should be. Instead, according to Dave Doyle of the National Geodetic Survey, the monument marking the intersection of Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico and Utah is about 1,807 feet east of where it should have been placed in 1875. Doyle says the monument's location has been legally adopted by all the states as the official corner
Re: Four Corners? Oh, it's just around the corner....
Posted: Apr 27 2009 6:21 pm
by azdesertfather