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Just wondering what shape the access road off the Bee line was in.

I have a Subaru Outback now and thinking about taking this route as apposed to the El Oso route.

so anyone been up there recently?

Pretty much same as always. It's doable, it's rough. It's only about 15 minutes longer to go around.

ah, right on. I will probably just go around. Last time out (about a year ago) I rolled my civic down El Oso and kind of wanted to avoid it, but dont really want to rough the Outback up too much... So I think i will just go El Oso.

Are the bugs out yet?

Surprisingly no. However it's generally breezy up there being between two air masses so that probably cuts down on it.

I noticed you just did the Mother Lode hike... plan on doing it again anytime soon? ive been wanting to do that for a while, but want to tackle it with someone who has done it before.

Anyone up for the Mother Lode sometime in May?

It'll be getting too hot up there very soon. It's been unusually cool this April. It's a better hike in Nov, Dec, Mar. Keep in mind it's a very difficult hike. I'd still go if any strong hiker has Wednesdays available. I think I can do it in 8 hours. When it cools down next winter I'd like to do an out-n-back using the various routes I now know.

joe bartels wrote:I think I can do it in 8 hours. When it cools down next winter I'd like to do an out-n-back using the various routes I now know.

A "Double Mother Lode"? Now you're talk'n. :wlift:

When I was up there about a week and a half ago there were LOTS of little tiny gnats......it was so bad when me and a buddy were sprinting down from Brown's Saddle we were eating them and almost getting blinded by them.

yeah, that sounds about right rushthezep

anyone know if it is ok to pass through those gates by the mine to get up to peak 4?

if not, how do you bypass it?

I believe you will be trespassing unless you first receive permission to do so.. http://hikearizona.com/phoZOOM.php?ZIP=94530