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Missing Hiker 10/10/09 - Peralta to Weavers Needle

Posted: Oct 11 2009 1:29 pm
by Crocodile Ryan
There is a missing hiker in the Supes

He was planning on being home yesterday (saturday 10/10/09) at 4PM

He was hiking from Peralta to Weavers Needle, SAR has found someone that believes they saw him yesterday about 230pm near the Needle

I wish I had some info on clothing but no one can remember what he was wearing, the person who believes he saw him thinks he was wearing a white T-shirt and had on a hip pack.

His name is Brian Chartier, white male, 43yrs, ~6'1" tall, ~190lbs, with light brown hair

Please contact Superstition SAR if you have any info, also please PM me, he's my uncle......

Re: Missing Hiker 10/10/09 - Peralta to Weavers Needle

Posted: Oct 11 2009 1:46 pm
by Tortoise_Hiker
Was he car at the trailhead? I hiked Picketpost today and there was a SUV there when I got there. I didn't see any hikers in front of me though. The two hikers I did see later were wearing white but I'm sure that's true for lots of hikers out there. GOOD LUCK.

Re: Missing Hiker 10/10/09 - Peralta to Weavers Needle

Posted: Oct 11 2009 5:38 pm
by SuperstitionGuy
Does this mean that the Superstition Search and Rescue is now back in operation?

Re: Missing Hiker 10/10/09 - Peralta to Weavers Needle

Posted: Oct 11 2009 8:28 pm
by SuperstitionGuy
Does anybody know the status of this search? I am taking my three grandsons out on the Hackberry Loop tomorrow morning. They have already done the trek where this person is reported missing or we would do that along with Cave Trail.

Re: Missing Hiker 10/10/09 - Peralta to Weavers Needle

Posted: Oct 11 2009 9:23 pm
by Crocodile Ryan
They found him a bit dehydrated and with some frost bite on his toes near black top mesa

Re: Missing Hiker 10/10/09 - Peralta to Weavers Needle

Posted: Oct 11 2009 9:42 pm
by big_load
I'm glad it was no worse than that. Was he lost or impaired by the dehydration?

Re: Missing Hiker 10/10/09 - Peralta to Weavers Needle

Posted: Oct 11 2009 10:21 pm
by allanalxndr
Glad everything work out ok!

Re: Missing Hiker 10/10/09 - Peralta to Weavers Needle

Posted: Oct 12 2009 3:18 pm
by SuperstitionGuy
While hiking Hackberry this morning there was another Maricopa County search going on for a party of four. They missed a turn yesterday and headed north down a wash and had very little water with them. Maricopa County helicopter and horse posse were out in force. They searched last night as well and the helicopter found them around 10:30 AM and made two trips hauling them out. When will people learn!

Re: Missing Hiker 10/10/09 - Peralta to Weavers Needle

Posted: Oct 12 2009 3:51 pm
by Tortoise_Hiker
:D Glad it turned out good!

Re: Missing Hiker 10/10/09 - Peralta to Weavers Needle

Posted: Oct 12 2009 5:33 pm
by nonot
Glad to hear they got him out...how did he end up on black top mesa by mistake attempting the needle from Peralta?

Re: Missing Hiker 10/10/09 - Peralta to Weavers Needle

Posted: Oct 13 2009 12:00 am
by Crocodile Ryan
He actually was suffering from severe dehydration, he was very lucky its nice and cool now

what I dont understand was how he got so turned around? I mean you can see weavers need very easily from blacktop mesa, I dunno just glad he's alright

So, you guys think this is where I sit him down and have the, you always need to have a compass and map, talk?

Re: Missing Hiker 10/10/09 - Peralta to Weavers Needle

Posted: Oct 13 2009 4:18 am
by azbackpackr
Yeah, but also I wonder if he has another health issue that's unknown? Your family might want to look at that. But I am very glad to hear he is found!

Re: Missing Hiker 10/10/09 - Peralta to Weavers Needle

Posted: Oct 13 2009 5:38 am
by joebartels
According to Wikipedia you can get frost bite in the low 40's :o Wow, that's good to know!

Re: Missing Hiker 10/10/09 - Peralta to Weavers Needle

Posted: Oct 13 2009 6:37 am
by Jeffshadows
joe bartels wrote:According to Wikipedia you can get frost bite in the low 40's :o Wow, that's good to know!
Especially if your fluids are already off or it's very windy.

Re: Missing Hiker 10/10/09 - Peralta to Weavers Needle

Posted: Oct 13 2009 7:34 am
by BobP
First off, I'm glad he was rescued with only minor problems.
joe bartels wrote:According to Wikipedia you can get frost bite in the low 40's Wow, that's good to know!
That's an eye opener...ya learn something new every day...IN THE HAZ FORUM :)

Re: Missing Hiker 10/10/09 - Peralta to Weavers Needle

Posted: Oct 13 2009 9:24 am
by azbackpackr
Had no clue, very interesting. I knew that hypothermia was most common above thirty degrees (usually if it's wet) but had no idea about the frostbite.

Re: Missing Hiker 10/10/09 - Peralta to Weavers Needle

Posted: Oct 13 2009 4:52 pm
by nonot
It's worth straightening him out especially given he lost a route that is usually easily followed...
Crocodile Ryan wrote: So, you guys think this is where I sit him down and have the, you always need to have a compass and map, talk?

Re: Missing Hiker 10/10/09 - Peralta to Weavers Needle

Posted: Oct 13 2009 9:04 pm
by pfredricks
I think it is important to remind people what to do if they get lost. First thing is STOP MOVING. Take some time, figure out where you are and contemplate your options thoughtfully and carefully. Many, Many people panic and quit thinking and keep moving. In the desert, that is the wrong thing to do.

Re: Missing Hiker 10/10/09 - Peralta to Weavers Needle

Posted: Oct 13 2009 9:18 pm
by JoelHazelton
Frostbite in the low 40s??? Wow!