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Boggy complex fire
Posted: Jun 14 2010 4:12 pm
by Dschur
As of 1pm this afternoon there are some closures as a result of this fire....
Boggy Fire Location:
· Alpine Ranger District, Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest
· 18 miles WSW of Alpine, AZ in Greenlee County
· Approximately 820 acres
· Cause: Lightning strike
Paradise Fire Location:
· Alpine Ranger District, Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest
· 16 miles SSW of Alpine, AZ in Greenlee County
· Approximately 815 acres
· Cause: Lightning strike
Area Closure: Visitors who plan to access the Wildcat Crossing area of the Black River should be aware that Forest Road 25 remains closed north of Wildcat Crossing on the south end and at the intersection of Forest Road 25 and 25G on the north end. Visitors may still access the Big Lake area.
Trail Closures: The Grant Creek Trail (No. 75) and Paradise Trail (No. 74) are closed to the public due to fire activity in the area.
Re: Boggy complex fire
Posted: Jun 14 2010 8:31 pm
by azbackpackr
We could see the Paradise Fire from over in the Blue Range. Didn't look too big.
Later on, I'm doing KP. That fire is a bit close for comfort to KP. Maybe will pick another trail instead. But that is about 11 days from now, so maybe we'll have a big rainstorm.
Re: Boggy complex fire
Posted: Jun 14 2010 8:35 pm
by Jim
Not related, and not even in AZ, but there is a 10,000+ acre fire in Guadalupe Mt NP. It is burning mostly in grass with some shrubs and PJ. The smoke from it looks light.
Re: Boggy complex fire
Posted: Jun 15 2010 11:21 am
by joebartels
It's amazing there hasn't been larger fires this season with all the winter moisture followed by the dryness for the last two months.
Re: Boggy complex fire
Posted: Jun 15 2010 11:57 am
by Jim
joe bartels wrote:It's amazing there hasn't been larger fires this season with all the winter moisture followed by the dryness for the last two months.
We haven't had much lightning yet, so that may be part of the reason. Give us a month, then make a conclusion. New Mexico and west Texas have had a number of lightning fires. Unfortunately, the Gila has suppressed many of them (the Horse and Aspen fires) despite their occurrence in "wilderness areas", and reported fire behavior of low intensity. Carlsbad Caverns and Guadalupe Mt NPs have had two good sized lightning fires as well.
Re: Boggy complex fire
Posted: Jun 15 2010 12:20 pm
by joebartels
We haven't had much lightning yet
true, probably the saving grace
I just remember some of the larger devastating fires to be Apr-Jun. The monsoon humidity and rains usually suppress them if we can make it to July.
Re: Boggy complex fire
Posted: Jun 16 2010 4:51 pm
by Dschur
This is the last update from the Type 2 Team, the fire is CONTAINED and they are demob'ing. Since the Paradise is still burning im continueing it in its own thread.
June 15
Eastern Arizona Type 2 Incident Management Team
Boggy and Paradise Fires
Tuesday June 15, 2010 9:00 a.m.
Contact: Jonetta Trued, Public Information Officer 520-400-1007
Bill Bishop, Public Information Officer 623-341-4001
Website Info:
http://www.inciweb.org
Boggy Fire Location:
· Alpine Ranger District, Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest
· 18 miles WSW of Alpine, AZ in Greenlee County
· Approximately 820 acres, contained
· Cause: Lightning strike
Paradise Fire Location:
· Alpine Ranger District, Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest
· 16 miles SSW of Alpine, AZ in Greenlee County
· Approximately 1,015 acres
· Cause: Lightning strike
Summary: Fire behavior for the Paradise Fire Monday included backing and creeping in heavy downed fuels. Development of a long term management plan for the Paradise Fire has been completed. In conjunction with the management plan, a fuels crew prepped a historical structure in the bottom of Grant Creek drainage on Monday. Residents can expect to see smoke from the Paradise Fire for several more weeks and thicker smoke at times as the fire consumes heavy dead and down fuels left from the Thomas Fire of 2003. The fire remains in monitor status and southwest and northeast movement is expected to continue for the next few days.
Management of the Boggy and Paradise fires was returned to the Alpine Ranger District. This will be the last update provided by the Eastern Arizona Type 2 Incident Management Team.
Area Closure Lifted: The area closure of Forest Road 25 and 25G between the intersection of Forest Road 25 and Forest Road 68 on the north side and Forest Road 25 at Wildcat Crossing on the south end was lifted today at 6 a.m.
Trail Closures: The Grant Creek Trail (No. 75) and Paradise Trail (No. 74) remain closed to the public due to fire activity from the Paradise Fire.
Information on all fire activities in southern Apache and Navajo counties is available by dialing “593 from a Frontier network landline or by dialing (928) 333-3412 from all other locations. This recorded fire information is updated daily.
Re: Boggy complex fire
Posted: Jun 17 2010 10:21 am
by azbackpackr
Oh, my. Hope the old cabin down in Grant Creek doesn't burn.
The FS has been just awful about preserving (and allowing grazing leasees to preserve) historic cabins. Some friends of mine have a grazing lease, and when they tried to preserve a cabin on their lease, they were threatened with arrest by the FS. Then vandals broke all the windows in that cabin and now it is going to rot. ARE YOU LISTENING SPRINGERVILLE RD? That particular cabin is on FR85, just in case you are interested.
The notion that the FS in the A-S is interested in preserving ANY of its many historic cabins is totally laughable. They have actually torn or burned several of them down on purpose. This is common knowledge in this area.
Re: Boggy complex fire
Posted: Jun 17 2010 3:46 pm
by Sredfield
I heard when the Mazatzals became a wilderness, concerned citizens/hikers had to go to Barry Goldwater to keep the FS from burning them. In the end, they were burned--Club Cabin burned in the 04 fire.
Re: Boggy complex fire
Posted: Jun 17 2010 6:03 pm
by azbackpackr
Yes, and it is well known amongst old-time Tucson hikers that the Shovel Spring cabin, lovingly maintained by hikers, was purposely removed by the FS some years ago.
Thompson cabin and Pat Knoll cabin are gone, up here. I am told by ranchers that the FS deliberately burned Pat Knoll cabin to get rid of it. No one seems to know why Thompson cabin burned, but all the local ranchers I have talked to believe the FS burned it to get rid of it. So that is how the feelings run, whether it is true or not.
Also, when I first started going to Sipe White Mtn. Wildlife area, the Rudd Creek cabin was still more or less standing, but AG&FD do not budget for historic cabin preservation.
The windows on one of the buildings at White Mountains Grasslands area have been broken by vandals, and even though AG&FD do all kinds of projects out there they can't be bothered with a few dollars worth of putty and small panes of glass. The buildings will fall down very quickly once the windows are broken and the roofs leak.
Roofs are very important in saving cabins. And tin roofing is cheap.