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Above or below the rim?

Posted: Jun 21 2010 8:55 pm
by paulhubbard
Going camping this weekend, Friday afternon through Monday night, regardless of fire restrictions (that is if the whole forest isn't closed).

Top of the rim = cooler temps, but always climbing up to return.
Bottom of the rim = Easier hikes, probably more water (creekside) hikes, but warmer temps.
Sierra Anches = Campfires allowed? I haven't heard.

I'm thinking about a base camp on Milk Ranch Point or somwhere similar where there are good views from the top of the rim, and then exploring from there.

I guess I'm looking for suggestions. Campfires aren't necessarily on the list, but it would be nice to grill on charcol. Anyone know/recommend a preferred spot?

Thanks,
Paul

Re: Above or below the rim?

Posted: Jun 21 2010 9:23 pm
by chumley
Below the rim and Sierra Anchas have restrictions too. Tonto has been under restrictions for quite a while now.

Above the rim likely will not have restrictions east of Knoll Lake (A-SNF). (At least they didn't announce today with the other three).

The only area closures will be in areas of active or recently burned (this year) areas.

Developed campgrounds still allow campfires ... even on Tonto, Coconino, Kaibab, and Prescott where the dispersed restrictions are in place.

Re: Above or below the rim?

Posted: Jun 21 2010 11:38 pm
by JimmyLyding
There were some recent campfires on top of the rim around where my triplog shows we hiked on Sunday on the General Crook "trail"

Re: Above or below the rim?

Posted: Jun 22 2010 4:41 am
by azbackpackr
A Bar S is not closed (yet) to campfires, except on red flag days.

Re: Above or below the rim?

Posted: Jun 22 2010 6:36 am
by paulhubbard
Where is the A Bar S? I'm not familiar with that one.

Re: Above or below the rim?

Posted: Jun 22 2010 7:34 am
by chumley
Paul it's the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest. (A-S). It is above the rim from Knoll Lake to the New Mexico border.

Re: Above or below the rim?

Posted: Jun 22 2010 7:56 am
by paulhubbard
Okay... I feel dumb now. :?

Thanks!

Re: Above or below the rim?

Posted: Jun 22 2010 10:02 am
by azbackpackr
Sorry bout that! I have gotten into the "local" habit, I guess!