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I'm curious what site people are using?

on weather.com you can type in "superstition wilderness" and it appears to show a forecast for the western sups. I'm curious if anyone has something more accurate and also how I can get a forecast for the eastern sups?

noaa with the pinpoint reports is generally pretty good.

NOAA pinpoint forecast on TrailDEX Map
right click over map > Forecast or alt+w

the forecast is for the center of the map (the red crosshair)

Yup. I've found that pinpoint forecast to be very helpful.

There are FAR too many features on HAZ... Teva Joe should be given an Emmy or sumthin! :worthy: :worthy:

I've seen Joe in a youtube video or two, but nothing that would be Emmy-worthy.

A Webby would be a whole nother thing though...

joe bartels wrote:right click over map > Forecast or alt+w
the forecast is for the center of the map (the red crosshair)

Awesome! Why didn't I know about this?

paulhubbard wrote:There are FAR too many features on HAZ... Teva Joe should be given an Emmy or sumthin! :worthy: :worthy:

No kidding! It is taking me forever to figure out where everything is. I honestly have never seen a private site -- and damn few corporate ones -- anywhere near as sophisticated as this. Really amazing.

joe bartels wrote:NOAA pinpoint forecast on TrailDEX Map
right click over map > Forecast or alt+w
the forecast is for the center of the map (the red crosshair)

I did know we could find the pinpoint TH forecast for any hike on HAZ via bringing up the hike description page, then clicking-on the "forecast" option, but being able to move around the map with the crosshairs to have the pinpoint forecast for any location is pretty darn

When I bring up the pinpoint TH forecast for this one http://hikearizona.com/decoder.php?ZTN=15938 via clicking on "forecast", it now forecasts the low for tonight at TH elev of 3275ft to be 39F. When I move the MyTOPO overlay crosshair up FR172 and onto FR650 to the top of Montana Mtn at 5557ft, then right click over map > Forecast, it now forecasts the low for tonight on the top of Montana Mtn to be 41F. What's up with this forecast at +2282ft higher?

Although higher typically means colder, heat still rises and cold still sinks.

This is the same scenario as the Four Peaks. While it will be a steady medium cold at the Peaks the valleys below plummet at night and jump in the day. Though not as Les Stroud tells the world from below freezing to over 90!

39/57 @ 3275ft
41/45 @ 5420ft

Holy cow - this site has everything. I should have known... :thanx:

joe bartels wrote:NOAA pinpoint forecast on TrailDEX Map
right click over map > Forecast or alt+w

the forecast is for the center of the map (the red crosshair)

I believe that the NWS zone forecasts are not in fact "exact point" forecasts. If you look at how their website does it, each zone is divided into a small area (perhaps a 1-mile square?). Obviously terrain in a square mile can change quite a bit, so it takes an average elevation for that square and supplies a forecast. As a result, you might have some minor changes due to the exact elevation you are at in that square.

I'm attaching three examples from the SF Peaks. If your "point" is anywhere in the box, the forecast will be the same, regardless of if the crosshairs are at 11,000 feet or 8,000 feet. So it does take a little bit of your own common sense too.

I noticed that too as you get abrupt changes at certain points. It does take the pinpoint elevation into account for within the grid cause if you move it around it changes. It's good to check out areas near your interest too just to get a decent feel. Then I take the worst rain chance or highest temp as my defining point in decisions.

Not sure about how it works when you code it into the site like it is on the HAZ map, but on the NWS site, the elevation doesn't change. As an example, click anywhere in the red box on Snowbowl and the elevation is always 10,066. (That's the middle image I attached). Click anywhere in the Inner Basin square, which includes Agassiz and almost to Humphrey Peak, and the elevation is always 11,493 (that's the first image I attached).