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Hat or not?

Posted: Apr 07 2011 9:44 am
by KwaiChang
OK HAZ posters - one last question of preparation for me.

My buddy says a hat is a must - we will be hiking May 13th till the 18th - down SK up NK down NK and up BA.

I say "I got plenty of hair! (He don't :sl: )"

Opinions? If you say yeah what you you recommend?

Many thanks!!!

Re: Hat or not?

Posted: Apr 07 2011 9:47 am
by paulhubbard
I always cover my balding head so as to avoid sunburn. baseball caps are a nice help to keep the sun out of your eyes. But hats do retain a lot of heat.

Re: Hat or not?

Posted: Apr 07 2011 9:53 am
by BobP
4/5 Hazer's recommend hats(mostly ball caps). The 5th one does not. I wear a hat if its really cold. Like Paul said they really retain heat :yuck:

Re: Hat or not?

Posted: Apr 07 2011 9:57 am
by big_load
I wear a wide-brimmed hat almost all the time. The only exception is when it's cold enough to require heavy insulation.

Re: Hat or not?

Posted: Apr 07 2011 10:00 am
by azbackpackr
Hats can be purchased with a mesh crown to give you a little air flow. I personally can't tolerate the sun in my eyes, and wear a full brimmed hiking hat and sun glasses. Even if the sun does not bother you, it will, in the long run, damage your skin and retinas. My son is 27, lives outside all the time, and has wrinkles. His older brother is a Marine, spends most of his time outside as well, but has no wrinkles. The younger one never wears a hat, sunglasses or sunscreen, the older one does.

Re: Hat or not?

Posted: Apr 07 2011 10:07 am
by PLC92084
We all know what they say about opinions...

I usually wear a hat (booney cap (SP?)), but there are times when I remove it because I'm getting too hot. I find it very useful for reducing glare, direct sun exposure, etc. A bandana, sunglasses and sunscreen all do the same thing. Guess it depends on what one finds comfortable and useful...

Re: Hat or not?

Posted: Apr 07 2011 11:00 am
by kingsnake
The heat retention is minimal compared to the risk of getting skin cancer. Wear a hat, of whatever sort you prefer, unless you look like these guys: Image Also, going hatless, but putting a bunch of sun screen on your head is a poor idea, as when you sweat the lotion will run down in your eyes, and holy jeez does it sting! :stretch: (Unfortunate personal experience.)

Re: Hat or not?

Posted: Apr 07 2011 11:10 am
by azbackpackr
Sun exposure does not fall into the realm of "opinion." It is real. It damages skin and retinas. Furthermore, if it is hot, a hat can cool you more than heat you up, depending upon the hat, of course.

The following is my informed OPINION: Never go shirtless or wear a tank top in the heat. Wear a regular t-shirt or even a long sleeved shirt. Sunscreen all over, even underneath the shirt. This will prevent not just sunburn, but also fatigue, because sunburn/"tanning" or whatever you want to call it is fatiguing. The reason is that whether it is "tanning" or sunburn, it is damage to your body, and your body immediately gets busy repairing it. This uses energy. Hence, the fatigue. And drink water with electrolytes in it even if you are not thirsty, and EAT. Eat salty foods.

Re: Hat or not?

Posted: Apr 07 2011 11:19 am
by PLC92084
@azbackpackr

I knew I should've clarified myself a bit more... My comment about opinions/hats was intended to be generic and all-encompassing... not specific or directed at anyone or anything in particular...

Liz is absolutely correct about everything stated!

Re: Hat or not?

Posted: Apr 07 2011 11:53 am
by azbackpackr
Oh, I wasn't taking offense. Besides, it is good to be reminded from time to time that we should distinguish between what is merely opinion as opposed to what is well-established scientific fact.

I have a lot of skin damage, and would like to help others prevent this. You will NEVER see me in a tank top. (Probably wouldn't want to, either! ;) ) I do let my legs and arms get a little bit brown every summer, but I do use sunscreen and wear a hat, and a t-shirt, but never vee-neck because that area under my throat is a big mess that is always red.

Re: Hat or not?

Posted: Apr 07 2011 12:02 pm
by BobP
The OP asked for opinions? and if yeah what type of hat? I've used all of the folowing depending on the hike.

No Hat
Used a chrome dome
Used a chrome dome and a hat
wide -brimmed and yes I've hiked with a Sombrero once
cowboy hat
visor both new and old school hightop
marathon hat

Re: Hat or not?

Posted: Apr 07 2011 12:19 pm
by azbackpackr
What's a chrome dome?

I wear a floppy old Columbia hiking hat. Bought it on Campmor years ago. Exception is a ballcap I occasionally wear, seen in my profile photo.

Re: Hat or not?

Posted: Apr 07 2011 12:27 pm
by BobP

Re: Hat or not?

Posted: Apr 07 2011 12:46 pm
by azbackpackr
An umbrella? I have seen those in use, but wouldn't they be a real nuisance if there is a lot of human trail traffic, or heavy brush, or overhanging ledges, or low tree branches, or high winds? Just to name a few... ;)

Re: Hat or not?

Posted: Apr 07 2011 12:51 pm
by BobP
Chrome dome is an umbrella....works great in all the things you mentioned. The only drawback is on heavy traffic trails people want to talk to you about the benefits of it.

Re: Hat or not?

Posted: Apr 07 2011 12:57 pm
by azbackpackr
I fully intend to use an umbrella on my river trip!

I met that guy who called himself Maverick on the trail to Supai, years ago. He had Go-lite gear (he was a rep for Go-lite) and I talked to him for a few minutes about the umbrella and other gear he had. But how do you carry it? I use two poles to protect my creaky knees. I find those are awkward quite often, since it automatically means my hands are not free. I used to use only one pole, but that did not help my knees much.

Switching to a small internal frame pack to lessen/slim/diminish my general profile was good, but then I added the poles and that increased my profile. I doubt I would be anything but just a nuisance to myself and others on the trail if I had an umbrella AND poles. :D

Re: Hat or not?

Posted: Apr 07 2011 1:22 pm
by kingsnake
I thought a chrome dome was a bald person?

Re: Hat or not?

Posted: Apr 08 2011 6:48 pm
by nonot
Tip: Look for marathoner hats, they generally vent well compared to just about all others.

Re: Hat or not?

Posted: Apr 09 2011 10:21 am
by Sarae
I use an umbrella on sun exposed trails with little wind. Usually, I can just tuck it under the sternum strap of my pack. I also bring my hat in case it gets too windy for the umbrella to be practical. I have used the umbrella and loved it in the Grand Canyon, but yes, I did get asked about it about every half-mile. :D

Re: Hat or not?

Posted: Apr 09 2011 12:02 pm
by azbackpackr
I guess you should get away from the Corridor, then, Sarae! ;)