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Kachina Spur trail #150A question
Posted: Aug 17 2011 12:43 pm
by hikeaz
Was wanting to hike the Hump this Saturday but the Snow Bowl Road is closed 6AM to 11:30AM.
I was wondering if someone would let me know the number of the FR off of Schultz Pass Rd that leads to 'short-cut' trail (150A) to the Kachina Trail. Is it maybe 6273? I know where it is, but am directing some folks to where it is and the FR number would be a help.
I am not speaking of the Weatherford/Schultz tank T/H. Any help is appreciated.
Re: Kachina Spur trail #150A question
Posted: Aug 17 2011 1:03 pm
by joebartels
I've never been there but you can see the FR numbers on the topo layer
http://hikearizona.com/map.php?QX=986
Looking at satellite that road doesn't look very used
Re: Kachina Spur trail #150A question
Posted: Aug 17 2011 1:14 pm
by hikeaz
Thanks Joe.
Using 'aerial' it shows a bit differently than sat - but I can vouch that the road is good.
i'm not so sure that the 'on the ground' FR numbers match the ones on topo - I was hoping that someone familiar with the
actual number would chime in, or maybe someone with a "Flagstaff Trails" map or "Flagstaff Hikes" book.
Thanks again!
Re: Kachina Spur trail #150A question
Posted: Aug 17 2011 1:18 pm
by hippiepunkpirate
522 is the correct number
Re: Kachina Spur trail #150A question
Posted: Aug 17 2011 1:20 pm
by hikeaz
hippiepunkpirate wrote:522 is the correct number
Many thanks HPP!!! I'll let the folks know.
Re: Kachina Spur trail #150A question
Posted: Aug 22 2011 2:35 pm
by hikeaz
The road I took off of Schultz pass Road was/is labeled "6274" (vs. the 6273 shown on Coconino maps) - If you have the gumption (and vehicle), in about 1/2 hour this goes up and intersects FR522, and you can take that west out to the Snowbowl Road*.
* USFS personnel created a total cluster on the Snowbowl Road this past Saturday. With dis-information running rampant, even from the 'horses mouth', it made for a frustating trip to Snowbowl to say the least. Barney Fife lives on, working for the USFS! "Logic... ya gotta nip it, nip it in the bud!"
Re: Kachina Spur trail #150A question
Posted: Aug 22 2011 3:02 pm
by chumley
Whatever the road from Shultz Tank is numbered, it is a little bit over 2 miles of total hell. You don't need 4wd in dry conditions, but you definitely need high-clearance, and it's an endless rocky, bumpy, washed-out mess. I'd rather drive on the boulder/rocks of a dry river bottom. I definitely recommend taking 522/Freidlein Prairie over that route unless you're in the mood for that kind of trip. But 522 starts on the Snowbowl road, so it is possible that access to it will be cut off if the Snowbowl Road is closed. I would call the Ranger station to verify.
(I can't speak for what the sign says, but all official forest maps including new travel management rules have the road labeled as 6273. When it turns north it becomes 6275. The lower part of 6275 --leading back down to Shultz Pass Road-- is closed to motor vehicle traffic)
http://www.fs.fed.us/r3/coconino/projec ... -map-1.jpg
Re: Kachina Spur trail #150A question
Posted: Aug 22 2011 3:13 pm
by hikeaz
chumley wrote:Whatever the road from Shultz Tank is numbered, it is a little bit over 2 miles of total hell. You don't need 4wd in dry conditions, but you definitely need high-clearance, and it's an endless rocky, bumpy, washed-out mess. ........................
I did not use 4WD and it was never remotely necessary, but "the road signed as 6274" it IS rutted and rocky. It rained about 3/4" in Flag proper on Friday but "the road signed as 6274" was not adversely affected by it. (mostly because you cannot get much WORSE) There were substantial puddles across the road in the upper reaches.
There
is a FR 6275 that takes off north from SPR a bit west of "the road signed as 6274" but it looked worse (or at least it did at night). We did come across the top end of 6275 where it intersects 6273, "the road signed as 6274" or 522 on the way out to the Snowbowl Road. We did encounter a FR 6273 sign eventually, but it was a mile or so up FR 6274.
chumley wrote:(I can't speak for what the sign says, but all official forest maps including new travel management rules have the road labeled as 6273. When it turns north it becomes 6275. The lower part of 6275 --leading back down to Shultz Pass Road-- is closed to motor vehicle traffic)
http://www.fs.fed.us/r3/coconino/projec ... -map-1.jpg
I think that Barney is also moonlighting in the online map/public information department of the CNF when he is not out in his $50,000 picup truck spewing disinformation - as I was all along S.P.R. Friday & Saturday slowly looking at FR signs - there was nary a 6273 road sign along Schultz Pass Road.