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Do you like hiking barefoot?

Yes, all the time
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Yes, under certain conditions
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hiking barefoot

Post by azdesertfather » Aug 22 2011 9:30 pm

Seriously? This is a burgeoning trend? Are there others of you out there??
Tucson REI — Barefoot Running Information Session

Date: 9/21/2011
Event Location: Tucson REI
Time: 6:30 p.m. - 8:00 p.m. (MST)
Presenter: REI Specialist

Description: Are you curious about the new trend in "barefoot" running? Come to our informational clinic to learn more about this emerging sport! We'll cover topics such as the history of barefoot running, the technology behind it, the benefits of this type of running, and some precautions to keep in mind.
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Re: hiking barefoot

Post by MtnBart01 » Aug 24 2011 10:16 am

@azdesertfather
Keep in mind that REI is the largest seller of Vibram Fivefingers and I'm willing to bet these informational sessions sell this #1 selling product. Although I haven't hiked in anything, but vff in the last two years and wear a leather Merrell minimalist model for work (VFF don't fit the dress code).
I rarely wear shoes when I'm at home ie. yardwork, mowing lawn, etc., but I don't see the point of people like that Cody whatever his name is guy. Even he puts on wool socks in the cold and fashions tire sandals in the desert and this guy has supposedly been barefoot for 20 years. Running barefoot on asphalt and grass is entirely different than hiking through cactus and scree.
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Re: hiking barefoot

Post by big_load » Aug 24 2011 12:10 pm

bart01 wrote:Keep in mind that REI is the largest seller of Vibram Fivefingers and I'm willing to bet these informational sessions sell this #1 selling product.
That's the way I interpreted it, too. Are you onto a new pair yet? I think you squeezed the last mile out of those other ones.

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Re: hiking barefoot

Post by MtnBart01 » Aug 24 2011 12:30 pm

@big_load
I bought another pair on sale for when they completely die, but shoe goo repaired the seam I blew out on GG so I'm still squeezing a few more miles out of that pair at least for day hikes. :D
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Re: hiking barefoot

Post by juliachaos » Aug 24 2011 12:31 pm

I've walked up at Priest Draw twice now since having this quad issue, and have found that I actually have much better balance and control when going barefoot. It's also easier on my muscles. Really helps to have the toes available for that extra bit of balance. Unfortunately there's a bunch of glass up there, so I had to put the shoes back on again.. :? I really like the feeling of the ground too. At least, when it's pretty soft. :)

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Re: hiking barefoot

Post by Sredfield » Aug 24 2011 9:03 pm

All kids went barefoot all summer many years ago, my aunt told me my Dad could run across a new mown stubble field by the end of summer. And several years ago while on a Sierra Club hike there was a woman hiking barefoot. Can't knock it but don't think I could do it.
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Re: hiking barefoot

Post by Trishness » Aug 27 2011 8:21 pm

Sredfield wrote:All kids went barefoot all summer many years ago
I know I went barefoot all summer, every summer when I was a kid XX years ago. Even now I spend as much time barefoot as I can or at least in minimal sandals. If I wear shoes and socks too often and for too long, my feet get nasty, scary nasty :scared:

I have hiked in Tevas but don't think I could do it barefoot.
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Re: hiking barefoot

Post by azdesertfather » Aug 30 2011 10:26 pm

bart01 wrote:@azdesertfather
Running barefoot on asphalt and grass is entirely different than hiking through cactus and scree.
Totally agree. Agree about that Cody guy too, if that's what his name is on that TV show. He's just trying to act like he's Mr. Toughguy for the camera. Come on, gimme a break. Hike like that out in the Arizona desert with cholla of all flavors lying around everywhere, and you're just double dumb stupid IMO :o
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Re: hiking barefoot

Post by CannondaleKid » Sep 01 2011 1:25 pm

I read Cody Lundin's book 98.6 Degrees: The Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive! and enjoyed it. Based on that as well as other information I have since learned about him I have a great deal of respect for him, and I'd never think of calling him stupid.

Whether you agree with walking barefoot in AZ around plenty of prickly things or not, it's actually how he walks which makes the difference. He doesn't walk heel-to-toe but rather the opposite, which makes for much slower and careful walking, or like he says, you feel more in tune with your surroundings. And thus are more aware of the things to avoid. I've found I unconsciously pay more attention to where I place my feet when wearing Tevas than with shoes.

Cody Lundin runs a school for outdoor survival, primitive living, etc. If nothing more than curiosity, check out his web site:
http://www.codylundin.com/
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Re: hiking barefoot

Post by Jim_H » Sep 01 2011 1:35 pm

I go so sloppily with my boots on, and hit a lot. I always figured if I was barefoot, I'd spend a lot more time looking at where I was walking, or have some nasty beat up toes from the rocks.
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Post by azdesertfather » Sep 03 2011 10:14 pm

CannondaleKid wrote:Cody Lundin runs a school for outdoor survival, primitive living, etc. If nothing more than curiosity, check out his web site:
http://www.codylundin.com/
Yeah, he's built a cave for a house in the high desert near Prescott...see it here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWpSVNrt0LU
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Re: hiking barefoot

Post by Jim_H » Sep 04 2011 8:16 am

The Toll Brothers are spinning in their luxury silk lined, mink fur padded graves.


I like that house. Overall it looks nice. I might have done more sky lights and perhaps had opening roof windows for ventilation in the bedroom and maybe another room, plus a bedroom door, but that is just me. I like the natural vegetation on the roof and the water harvesting system taking advantage of what comes off of the roof. It might seem odd to only have south facing windows, but there are apartments with only north side windows, so his home is better in that regard. No neighbors, so I bet it is nice an quiet.
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Re: hiking barefoot

Post by azbackpackr » Sep 06 2011 4:38 am

It's an interesting house, practical to heat, etc., and eclectic. If I am going to be critical, it would be for personal reasons: For me it would be too dark inside on a cold winter day, and very dark inside on a rainy or snowy day. They said it's near Prescott, which has a fairly mild climate, so hopefully the person living there would spend a lot of time outside.
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Re: hiking barefoot

Post by Jim_H » Sep 14 2011 6:36 pm

Maybe I'm just running an experiment that will fail, but I picked up a pair of 5 fingers today, though due to my life of shoe wearing, my toes are deformed and I really only need 4 fingers. I'll see how they go. Basically, I am still trying to work with my shod feet and orthotics, but they have so far either just created new problems, or solved one but sent the issue elsewhere. Examples, Achilles tendonitis--> plantars fascistic--> worsening P.F.-->pre-metatarsal joint pain and shin splints--> and now knee pain from torsion.

Changing my walking pattern is fairly hard, but if Liz's son is any inspiration, one can live just fine not wrapped in padding all the time. The running shoes I grew up on didn't basically exist before the 1970s, so it's possible that I wouldn't have the issues I do had I not worn them all my life from about 8 or 9 on. Of course, having worn them all my life, not only are my bones in my feet warped (small toes) and less dense, but the muscles, tendons and ligaments are lightly developed. I have no intention of running in them, just walking and hiking if possible. It will be interesting to see how this goes.

The way I see it, if the fix I was sold is causing as much or more of a problem then remedying, it's time to try something new.
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Re: hiking barefoot

Post by azbackpackr » Sep 14 2011 7:40 pm

Well, it's worth a try.
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Re: hiking barefoot

Post by big_load » Sep 14 2011 9:59 pm

@Jim_H It will be interesting to see how you like it. If it were merely the arch and no heel adjustment was necessary, I think my doc could make an orthotic that would work in five fingers. I guess from your description that you also have a mutated little pinkie like mine.

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Re: hiking barefoot

Post by Jim_H » Sep 15 2011 5:52 pm

big_load wrote:@Jim_H It will be interesting to see how you like it. If it were merely the arch and no heel adjustment was necessary, I think my doc could make an orthotic that would work in five fingers. I guess from your description that you also have a mutated little pinkie like mine.
Yeah, the pinky is a useless vestigial appendage that resembles a small, tucked in hook. I look at feet a lot and most people have a small toe that sticks out straight. I won't recommend just using them if you have had hip issues, but I find that being on un-even ground is better for my hips. So, too, it appears is is better for my back.
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Re: hiking barefoot

Post by big_load » Sep 15 2011 9:36 pm

Jim_H wrote:the pinky is a useless vestigial appendage that resembles a small, tucked in hook
Same here. Anyway, I hope your experiment goes well.

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Re: hiking barefoot

Post by Jim_H » Nov 04 2011 5:29 pm

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Re: hiking barefoot

Post by big_load » Nov 04 2011 6:44 pm

@Jim_H Are you still hiking in the VFF? How is it going?

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Re: hiking barefoot

Post by Jim_H » Nov 04 2011 6:57 pm

big_load wrote:@Jim_H Are you still hiking in the VFF? How is it going?
I am, for all or part of the hikes I have done, I also wear a flat track shoe at work. Nearly magic like, without an elevated heel, I can stand for hours without back pain, and the other issues I had are milder or gone. I don' really have any knee problems like I was getting. I think the knee issues were actually the result of using orthotics, and attempting to work within the flawed idea of heel striking was only making things worse and worse. Orthotics are something I now think are largely snake oil, since they never really benefited me, and in fact only created additional problems. The only real problem with the 5 fingers is how soft and useless my feet are. I guess rocks aren't something most barefoot runners run on, but on a trail, they're there and very hard to hike on. Up hill in them is still easier than down, but I always found that to be the case. I don't really know what to do for longer hikes, since I absolutely hate my Merrel boots, and any other boot I buy for long hikes will have a high heel. I may buy a thin soled sneaker to hike in, and use that when I need to. Fact is, when you're weak and deformed, it's hard to just up and get strong.
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