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Drunk Elk Found in Tree
Posted: Sep 12 2011 2:50 pm
by kingsnake
Re: Drunk Elk Found in Tree
Posted: Sep 12 2011 2:54 pm
by chumley
I understand that there's some nuance between Queen's English and what we say here in the good ol us of a, but that there is a moose.
Re: Drunk Elk Found in Tree
Posted: Sep 12 2011 3:00 pm
by PatrickL
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These drunk elks are getting out of control.
Re: Drunk Elk Found in Tree
Posted: Sep 12 2011 3:21 pm
by azbackpackr
Well, they are Swedish, after all!
Re: Drunk Elk Found in Tree
Posted: Sep 12 2011 3:47 pm
by AndreyP
And in ol' royal Sweden this лось is called älg : rein :
Re: Drunk Elk Found in Tree
Posted: Sep 12 2011 6:01 pm
by Jeffshadows
Re: Drunk Elk Found in Tree
Posted: Sep 12 2011 8:20 pm
by big_load
chumley wrote:I understand that there's some nuance between Queen's English and what we say here in the good ol us of a, but that there is a moose.
The Swedish word for moose is "alg", which is cognate with "elk". I don't know why the English decided to apply their "moose" word to wapiti, which then required them to adopt a Native American word to describe moose. (The closest thing to an elk in Scandinavia and Western Europe is the Red Deer). I learned all this while being told that I was eating elk meatballs, which of course were actually moose meatballs. They mix in a little beef, which they somewhat disturbingly translate as "flesh".
Re: Drunk Elk Found in Tree
Posted: Sep 12 2011 9:54 pm
by chumley
Yes, I'm fluent in Norwegian, which makes me at least 75% fluent in Swedish.

The älg in Swedish is actually elg in Norwegian. The point I was trying to make really has nothing to do with the Swedish for moose. It has to do with Queen's English for moose, which is "Elk". The BBC has it right ... in England. But just because a BBC news article calls it an elk (correctly) doesn't mean that we on Haz should call it by it's British name. In North American English, the animal pictured is a moose. In British English it's called an elk.
Apparently, it's most confusing for Australians who use elk and moose interchangeably. I believe there are a small number of what we call elk in Australia, but no moose.
As for disturbing Swedish translations, one of my favorites is one that takes advantage of the word for "bone" being the same as the word for "legs". It was always a little uncomfortable when over a good pork chop dinner mom and dad repeated the saying that translates to "the best meat is between the bones". (replace the same-meaning word from above and then picture your parents saying it while you're trying to eat dinner

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Re: Drunk Elk Found in Tree
Posted: Sep 12 2011 10:00 pm
by JimmyLyding
However, there are moose in New Zealand. Allegedly.
Re: Drunk Elk Found in Tree
Posted: Sep 12 2011 10:06 pm
by chumley
I think the more important question to HAZers is to find out if the apple orchard at Reavis Ranch also produces fermented drunkifying apples in autumn. Think of how much pack weight could be saved if the alcohol is already there!

Re: Drunk Elk Found in Tree
Posted: Sep 12 2011 11:29 pm
by big_load
chumley wrote:It has to do with Queen's English for moose, which is "Elk".
Oh yes, I agree completely. When we wasted our moose word on wapiti, we had to get a new one, which we took from the Native Americans. I don't know why we didn't just take wapiti and keep using elk for moose.
Edit: On a side note, I saw my first moose in Sweden without even trying after years of no luck in Maine, Colorado, Minnesota, or Canada. I finally saw one in Colorado a few years later.
Re: Drunk Elk Found in Tree
Posted: Sep 13 2011 3:32 am
by azbackpackr
The word moose is an amusing word lending itself to funning around, such as using "meese" for a plural. And it rhymes with a lot of other words. I'm glad we have that word.
Re: Drunk Elk Found in Tree
Posted: Sep 13 2011 9:21 am
by chumley
My first moose-sightings were in Norway. I've seen them in the woods, hanging in the basement at my grandparents farm, and beautifully displayed over the mantle of my uncle's house.
I've also seen one in Colorado laying in the snow on a -20 degree morning.
Re: Drunk Elk Found in Tree
Posted: Sep 13 2011 9:38 am
by BEEBEE
Re: Drunk Elk Found in Tree
Posted: Sep 13 2011 9:49 am
by Alston_Neal
chumley wrote:My first moose-sightings were in Norway. I've seen them in the woods, hanging in the basement at my grandparents farm, and beautifully displayed over the mantle of my uncle's house.
I've also seen one in Colorado laying in the snow on a -20 degree morning.
The only moose I've seen was taking a nap by the road...

Re: Drunk Elk Found in Tree
Posted: Sep 13 2011 12:04 pm
by PaleoRob
Saw one up on the Wasatch Plateau when I was working out of Price. Probably the last moose I've seen.
Re: Drunk Elk Found in Tree
Posted: Sep 13 2011 12:08 pm
by kingsnake
Never seen a moose, but have seen hundreds of (American-type) elk when I used to work in the woods south of Bellemont ...
Re: Drunk Elk Found in Tree
Posted: Sep 15 2011 7:56 pm
by kevinweitzel75
Alright, the animal in the picture is a moose. Call it an elk in Sweden or England or whatever. The few encounters (twice) that I've had with elk, moose, mooses, moosen or meese, have been ever so brief (usually with me running and the other way and the ... whatever you want to call it chasing me), I really don't care.
NOTE: Moose in Idaho are not nice creatures, but they do taste good.

Re: Drunk Elk Found in Tree
Posted: Oct 30 2012 8:40 pm
by te_wa
saw a moose on t.v. once. he had a squirrel friend. good enough for me, brother.
Re: Drunk Elk Found in Tree
Posted: Nov 02 2012 6:53 pm
by Trishness
te-wa wrote:saw a moose on t.v. once. he had a squirrel friend. good enough for me, brother.
Bullwinkle and Rocky????