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was considering Desert Classic because I have yet to explore that side of SoMo, not sure how it is at night, any suggestions?

Cartwheels and moonshine. That should be very interesting....

Mmmmm moonshine! Is it going to be one of THOSE trips?!

i may come all depends how hard i push it at the rock gym. so if i do go take it easy on me

if you do the Desert Classic, you won't need a headlamp or the moon-- they'll be plenty of light coming from the crystal chandeliers hanging in the houses next to the trail.

really? Is it that bad?! i don't wanna be by peeeeople! What else would YOU suggest Kyle? What about the other end, the Alta trail? I just figured I'd be nice to a certain set of you and stay downtown instead of making you all trek 783 miles north for a "short" night hike.

i could suggest we attempt the Needle loop again but I'll get yelled at for a 12 mile night hike right now

I don't get home from work until 10pm so I can't go anyways... but you won't like the Desert Classic-- its sucks. You're literally in everyone's backyard.

As far as getting yelled at-- you definitely need to be careful with that knee. Even though it felt good on this last hike, that doesn't mean its 100%. My knee injury was three months ago and even though my hiking is back up to par with no pain and I'm doing some major painless cycling miles-- I can still tell its not quite 100% when I go running. LET IT HEAL, HIPPY!!!

Too bad you can't come out with us, and if I see houses from the trail I want nothing to do with it, thanks for the heads up!
Thanks for caring dear, really, i'm glad you all care, but I want to hike, i need to, i'll go stir crazy if i don't. i've been taking it easy...with the exception of the 9 miles on tuesday...
I never said it's 100%, once you get an injury like that it's stuck with you for a very long time, i know this and i'm ready for it, but it won't stop me. I won't run or cycle anytime soon that's too much for it but i can control the hikes and adventures i go on, how much weight i carry, how hard i set my feet down when climbing. I got this...and i really DO listen to evrything you all tell me, as mule headed as i am, i don't want to be stuck off the trails any longer...everything's gonna be fine.

monday night i'm going easy and heading out to hidden valley and fat man's pass all that fun stuff and to see my beautiful full moon from that tiny hill off of national trail, everyone is invited to join me, i'll be heading out from the 24th street TH at 645pm.

nice and easy, short and relaxed so i don't get yelled at i'm only in this for the full moon afterall!

i get done at 630 so i will try to hurry but probly wont make it till 700

sweet beans DB, just shoot me a text I don't mind waiting for ya