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Doce Fire-Prescott N.F.

Posted: Jun 18 2013 12:53 pm
by PrestonSands
>>> 2013 Doce Fire Perimeter Map, Arizona <<<

From the Prescott Courier website:
6/18/2013 11:50:00 AM
Breaking News: Wildland Fire jumps Iron Springs Road near mile marker 8

Willie Owens sent in this photo of the early stages of what is being called the Dosie Fire.

According to police and fire scanner traffic at 11:36 a.m. today a wildland fire is currently burning near mile marker 8 on Iron Springs Road in Prescott, Ariz.

Yavapai County Sheriff's scanner traffic reports law enforcement officials are closing westbound Iron Springs at Skyline Drive. Prescott Fire and Central Yavapai Fire District have just issued a general recall for all off duty and reserve firefighters to report to their duty stations. Reports indicate that the fire has jumped Iron Springs Road. The public should avoid this area.
This fire started southwest of Granite Mountain at "Doce Pit", near the north end of West Spruce Trail #264. Granite Basin and Little Granite Trailheads are closed.

Re: Doce Fire-Prescott N.F.

Posted: Jun 18 2013 1:47 pm
by kingsnake
How long after a fire starts / how big does it have to be, before it shows up at http://www.inciweb.org ?

Re: Doce Fire-Prescott N.F.

Posted: Jun 18 2013 2:54 pm
by chumley
It varies. Technically, inciweb is only for "large" fires ... usually over 1000 acres. However, in the case of this fire its proximity to the city of Prescott, immediate evacuations of hundreds of homes, threatened property, etc. make it a priority even if it isn't technically "large" yet. That said, they won't waste resources putting information up on inciweb until they get things organized on the ground. Since this fire has been burning for only a few hours, I wouldn't expect anything to be posted until at least tomorrow morning.

I do hope they get a handle on this. It has some positives going for it. Proximity to the city, water, and resources, including an airport, should allow a lot of air resources to respond quickly. A large number of human crews are also available with little or no driving time required. And access to the fire is quick and easy via established paved and graded forest roads.

I haven't been to Prescott recently, but other parts of the state are not desperately dry yet, so I hope that the fuels will allow for easier/quicker suppression as well.

Re: Doce Fire-Prescott N.F.

Posted: Jun 18 2013 3:28 pm
by beterarcher
I just found a handy little item on Google Earth, Galleries, under crisis and humanitarian. It shows active fire perimeters. The two in AZ must not be big enough to show up yet. Click the view in Google Earth button in the upper right corner to download then run the download. It will be in your "places" tab on the left.

http://www.google.com/gadgets/directory ... 7120083971

Re: Doce Fire-Prescott N.F.

Posted: Jun 18 2013 3:35 pm
by kingsnake
Globe was 'extreme' risk last weekend ...

Re: Doce Fire-Prescott N.F.

Posted: Jun 18 2013 3:35 pm
by beterarcher
@kingsnake
So was Crown King.

Re: Doce Fire-Prescott N.F.

Posted: Jun 18 2013 3:42 pm
by beterarcher
The Google Earth thing I posted above just keeps getting cooler, the list of fires in the drop down tab has links to other sites with lots of info!

Re: Doce Fire-Prescott N.F.

Posted: Jun 18 2013 5:09 pm
by ASUAviator
Watched this one build from the NW valley today. Bummer.

Re: Doce Fire-Prescott N.F.

Posted: Jun 18 2013 5:38 pm
by Nighthiker
Reported at 500 acres as of 5pm, you can obeserve the smoke plume via web cam at the airport in Prescott.

Re: Doce Fire-Prescott N.F.

Posted: Jun 18 2013 6:09 pm
by azbackpackr
Smoke can drift a very long way. Today at lunchtime it was nice and clear, hot and breezy, here in Eagar. At 2 p.m. break we went outside, and we were asking each other, "Where's the fire?" because of the haze and smell. At 4 p.m. I got off work, the smell of smoke was very, very strong, and a thick brown haze was over to the southwest. I got in my car and on a whim I drove the 25 miles up to Big Lake, but the haze was still to the southwest. I went into the Big Lake store and asked them, "Where's the fire?" and they said "Prescott and Loy Canyon" but they really weren't certain.

So, all I could think of, it must be a pretty big fire to bring that much smoke over here. We have red flag warnings up right now, no campfires, and it's dry, hot and windy.

Re: Doce Fire-Prescott N.F.

Posted: Jun 18 2013 6:13 pm
by chumley
Nighthiker wrote:Reported at 500 acres as of 5pm, you can obeserve the smoke plume via web cam at the airport in Prescott.
Not sure your source but local Phx TV stations are reporting 1500-2000 acres as reported by Prescott National Forest. The FS itself has not posted anything online that I can find.

Re: Doce Fire-Prescott N.F.

Posted: Jun 18 2013 6:19 pm
by chumley
News conference reports that a Type 1 Incident Command team has been ordered and will take over tomorrow. No structures lost or injuries at this point. 300 crews on hand, with more on the way. The fire was human caused and under investigation. Latest is approximately 5000 acres with 0% containment.

Re: Doce Fire-Prescott N.F.

Posted: Jun 18 2013 6:26 pm
by chumley
The news conference cited the following website for the most up-to-date information: Yavapai County Emergency Management Regional Alert
http://www.regionalinfo-alert.org/

Re: Doce Fire-Prescott N.F.

Posted: Jun 18 2013 6:47 pm
by big_load
@chumley That sounds closer to town than I'd like. :scared:

Re: Doce Fire-Prescott N.F.

Posted: Jun 18 2013 6:54 pm
by beterarcher
KPHO was having pretty much continuous coverage for the evening news. They are using a DC-10, a Sky Crane, Chinooks, Neptune P-2Vs and lots of ground crews.

Re: Doce Fire-Prescott N.F.

Posted: Jun 18 2013 9:32 pm
by PrestonSands
As of an hour ago, the fire front was at the northern base of Granite Mountain, having come up and over the mountain from the south. Most of the mountain to the west was engulfed. The far eastern slope of the mountain has not burned yet. The very summit appeared to be near the fire line, and torching was visible in that area from my location atop Mingus Mountain. Little Granite Mountain had burned as well. The fire front looked to be close to Williamson Valley Road, which has quite a few homes along its length. The last report I saw was 5000 acres and growing. Very sad to watch.

Re: Doce Fire-Prescott N.F.

Posted: Jun 18 2013 9:46 pm
by rwstorm
Preston the yeti wrote:Very sad to watch.
I know how you feel. :(

Re: Doce Fire-Prescott N.F.

Posted: Jun 18 2013 10:10 pm
by mazatzal
"Human caused" and another wrist slap... :tt:

Re: Doce Fire-Prescott N.F.

Posted: Jun 18 2013 10:14 pm
by PrestonSands
@mazatzal Did they find the responsible party already?

Re: Doce Fire-Prescott N.F.

Posted: Jun 18 2013 10:18 pm
by outdoor_lover
Yep, news just said over 5000 Acres and the wind is supposed to be pretty strong tomorrow.... :(