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Is there a way in BaseCamp to determine the amount of time it took to perform a hike (i.e. a track)? It used to be in MapSource you could view time for each leg (and I believe total time). I no longer see this in BaseCamp and Google does no good.

Also, while we arte at it, how to view the same in MapDex.

The reason being I have 'd my notes for four days last week ...

kingsnake wrote:Also, while we are at it, how to view the same in MapDex.

might be able to work that into Route MGR, I'll work on it

currently you "can" get time data to auto populate when posting a triplog if you have posted a route
http://hikearizona.com/images/screensho ... riplog.png

@kingsnake
Assuming the track data is complete, it should be listed in the Track Properties [Right Click or Double Click the Track to Open]. All values are included in the Properties screen - Summary, Time, Speed and Elevation. If you're using a Mac, all bets are off...

In HAZ, posted tracks also show the time, in both unposted Route Manager tracks, as well as posted routes.

See my recent Spencer Trail route here: http://hikearizona.com/gps=25016

If you expand the profile (yellow oval), you can then move the mouse along the profile to see the exact time for every point (red oval). It's easy to do the math to see how long it took to get from one point to another, or the entire route.

You can also view the entire profile based on time rather than distance by selecting time from the pull-down menu in the top right (blue oval).

I do use a Mac, and this has been more useful to me than any software that I've ever used for my tracks.

This does not work on all routes you find on HAZ as many have had time data stripped (probably unintentionally) prior to posting. But it should work for all of YOUR tracks if you do it right!

kingsnake wrote:Is there a way in BaseCamp to determine the amount of time it took to perform a hike (i.e. a track)? It used to be in MapSource you could view time for each leg (and I believe total time). I no longer see this in BaseCamp and Google does no good.

On any Garmin I've used, you can get track times from the Active Track, but once you save it as anything else, the time information gets stripped off. As I recall, BaseCamp will show time info if there is any to be had.

now added to Route MGR elevation profiles ( if track has time data to support it )

big_load wrote:On any Garmin I've used, you can get track times from the Active Track, but once you save it as anything else, the time information gets stripped off. As I recall, BaseCamp will show time info if there is any to be had.

Yeah, I saved track. I did seven hikes in five days, and wanted separate data on each, so I saved. I did not see time in the BaseCamp track info box. (Thus my post.) If what you are saying is true, that is really brutal on Garmin's part ...

Thanx for the addition, Joe, unfortunately, big_load appears to be correct, because only the active log -- which I saved, but did not clear -- has your change. None of the saved tracks do. (Due totally to Garmin being a bunch of s )

For that reason, I never save my tracks on my GPS, but instead keep one huge ActiveLog going. Even when my tracks are hundreds of miles apart. I import the whole thing and then split it up into separate tracks in Route MGR on HAZ.

The time data is also the key component in how HAZ geotags your photos to the location, so if you strip out the data by saving the track on your GPS then you will lose the ability to have the photos populated on the map in the spot they were taken.

chumley wrote:keep one huge ActiveLog going

I just turn my GPS off and back on whenever I want it to start another ActiveLog.

My 1997 gps only has one active log. Doesn't matter if I turn it off or not.

chumley wrote:For that reason, I never save my tracks on my GPS, but instead keep one huge ActiveLog going. Even when my tracks are hundreds of miles apart. I import the whole thing and then split it up into separate tracks in Route MGR on HAZ.

The time data is also the key component in how HAZ geotags your photos to the location, so if you strip out the data by saving the track on your GPS then you will lose the ability to have the photos populated on the map in the spot they were taken.

I may end up doing that. As to geotagging, I drop a waypoint on my GPS for every photo I take. (And Garmin does not diddle those ...)

CannondaleKid wrote:

chumley wrote:keep one huge ActiveLog going

I just turn my GPS off and back on whenever I want it to start another ActiveLog.

I can't currently test this -- only one active log going at this time -- so I assume ACTIVE LOG 1, ACTIVE LOG 2, etc. retain their time data?

However, my Garmin will only keep about two tracks in my active log (I turn off between hikes) and then will start kicking out the older tracks. Happened to me in Glacier Park where it kicked out my Preston Park and Gunsight hikes but kept Sperry Trail and St Mary Lake. Of course, I would have rather it kept Gunsight and Preston. So now, if I can't upload the active log somewhere, I have to pick and choose which hikes I want to log.

You guys with these older technology Garmin's (76, eTrex Vista, and 60CS, 60CSx) need to send Santa a letter for Christmas 2013 to bring you the newer technology Garmin replacement series (the eTrex 20,30, Oregon 450,450t, GPSmap 62s) that don't have these internal memory and saved memory limitations. Now is a good time to invest as the on-line internet pricing is very competitive due to probably Garmin planning on coming out ~soon with their next newer technology replacements.

Grasshopper wrote:probably Garmin planning on coming out ~soon with their next newer technology replacements.

Here's a couple of the newer choices => https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/catalog ... duct=75228

@coanbru Hey, the GPSMap 78 is upside down!

@coanbru
Shame one has to lay out $600.00 + to get a unit with decent firmware... With all the deployed units on the planet, one might think Garmin could write a patch to keep Active Logs "active" once they're saved to an SD card... :SB:

PLC92084 wrote:Shame one has to lay out $600.00 + to get a unit with decent firmware

New Oregon 450t's go for $200 on eBay, under a $100 used. The internal software and firmware is upgradeable for free.

PLC92084 wrote:Shame one has to lay out $600.00 + to get a unit with decent firmware...

For sure... PC's & /laptops kept advancing while at the same time prices kept going down, sadly it isn't true with GPS's. New features or not, I can deal with the 'shortcomings' of my GPS-MAP76CSX as long as it still works instead of spending that kind of money. If anything, I'll buy a better video camera way before another GPS.
(Now for those who have the real old Garmins, yes, I can see the wish to replace it. Thankfully what I have works fine for my purposes)

PLC92084 wrote:With all the deployed units on the planet, one might think Garmin could write a patch to keep Active Logs "active" once they're saved to an SD card...

I agree, and it should be quite simple except... Why would they do something that would extend the lifetime of the product you already own? If people weren't constantly rushing out to buy the latest new and improved models... well, if the sales drop so do the profits, and they can't have that now can they?

Grasshopper wrote:Now is a good time to invest as the on-line internet pricing is very competitive due to probably Garmin planning on coming out ~soon with their next newer technology replacements.

What? So we can spend a chunk of change yet be left wishing for the new technology we didn't get? Not me.