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Peak 3465' Hells Canyon Wilderness
Posted: Oct 30 2013 6:17 pm
by Barrett
Update:
I've been putting off doing this peak for so long they put in a trail while I was waiting! (Thanks coanbru).
It looks like the route will be Walkin' Jim Trail to Big Jim Trail to the saddle, then offtrail to summit 3465', for a 12.2 mile roundtrip and 2778' AEG.
Depending on how that goes, 3392', a crazy ridgeline, and Pikes Peak are within striking distance. My topo program was so far off on estimating 3465' that it's hard to say what that might entail. Mileage might only be 2-4 more, but AEG will be closer to 4000'.
I'm flexible on start time, but sunrise is at 6:55 , so leaving the 33.903792N 112.326072W trailhead at 5:30 would put us around the saddle at dawn's first light.
If that's the case, I'll be leaving the Beuf Center on Pinnacle Peak west of I-17 at 5:00 and have room for 1 unless you like open-air seating at 70 mph.

- 3465' approach from the east

- 3465' (left) and 3177'/Pikes Peak seen from 3651' to the north
Re: Peak 3465' Hells Canyon Wilderness
Posted: Oct 30 2013 7:54 pm
by The_Eagle
It's trail most of the way... My son and I cairned a route from the saddle where the trail ends.
http://hikearizona.com/gps=9729
See if you can find this up there =>
http://hikearizona.com/photo=167521
I still need to get to Pikes Peak
Re: Peak 3465' Hells Canyon Wilderness
Posted: Oct 30 2013 9:18 pm
by Barrett
@coanbru
Thanks for the info.
To be honest I'm a little disappointed to find out about the new trails. When I first set foot in the HCW 12 years ago, it really did feel like wilderness. Maybe I need to go back to 1902. ;)
Re: Peak 3465' Hells Canyon Wilderness
Posted: Oct 31 2013 10:26 am
by SpiderLegs
I was back there earlier this year. Just watch out for wild donkeys.
Re: Peak 3465' Hells Canyon Wilderness
Posted: Nov 02 2013 9:40 pm
by burntlizard
My 62 yr old uncle and I did it in 5.15 hrs in Feb of 2012. If I get off work Barrett, I'd like to go - 3 mph sounds good to me
My avatar photo is taken at the saddle of 3465 - compliments of Kingsnake!
Re: Peak 3465' Hells Canyon Wilderness
Posted: Nov 03 2013 6:34 pm
by Barrett
@burntlizard
"My avatar photo is taken at the saddle of 3465 - compliments of Kingsnake!"
Small world. Maybe you should lead.
5.15 hours at 62 - impressive. Maybe getting old isn't so bad.
Hope to see you there.
Re: Peak 3465' Hells Canyon Wilderness
Posted: Nov 04 2013 12:47 pm
by The_Eagle
Barrett wrote:
Maybe getting old isn't so bad.
Tell That to Bob, Joe, Nick, and Denny please......
Re: Peak 3465' Hells Canyon Wilderness
Posted: Nov 04 2013 1:32 pm
by chumley
coanbru wrote:Tell That to Bob, Joe, Nick, and Denny please......
Why would they need to hear it? They're not old, only you are.

Re: Peak 3465' Hells Canyon Wilderness
Posted: Nov 04 2013 1:57 pm
by The_Eagle
@chumley
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Re: Peak 3465' Hells Canyon Wilderness
Posted: Nov 04 2013 3:48 pm
by SpiderLegs
What time do you think you will be done? Need to be finished by 11:30 at the latest to make a family function in time on Saturday afternoon.
Re: Peak 3465' Hells Canyon Wilderness
Posted: Nov 04 2013 7:12 pm
by Barrett
@SpiderLegs
A 5:30 start followed by a Burntlizard Uncles pace (2.3 mph) would see us back at the parking lot at 10:39 if we stick to 3465' and approach using the Walking Jim/Big Jim trails.
I removed the Morgan City Wash option - it saves hiking mileage, but requires high clearance vehicles, almost all off trail hiking along with off trail in the dark. Probably best to keep this straightforward.
If people want to explore further, bag 3392', Pikes Peak, etc., the return time will be after 11:30. If you feel comfortable returning to the trailhead on your own, that would be an option. Standing on top of 3465', it's hard to say whether it will be "This was cool, lets head back.", or "That stuff to the west looks wild, let's do it!".
Re Peak 3465' Hells Canyon Wilderness
Posted: Nov 05 2013 5:36 am
by SpiderLegs
I've been up there once before but would like to hit some of the other peaks. Let me double check my plans for the afternoon and see when I need to be back in town. Just so we are on the same page, meeting in the parking lot on Castle Hot Springs Road where Walking Jim Trail starts?
Re Peak 3465' Hells Canyon Wilderness
Posted: Nov 05 2013 9:07 pm
by Barrett
@SpiderLegs
Yep. I'll be at the trailhead at 5:30 am on Saturday. Headlamps, flashlights, or night vision goggles recommended.
From Phoenix, take I-17 north to the Carefree Highway (SR 74). Turn left on Carefree highway and drive west to Castle Hot Springs Rd (Lake Pleasant exit). Turn north and drive for approximately 5.1 miles to a large pull off on the left side of the road. Careful of deep sand in the parking area. The hike begins at the northwest corner of the parking lot on the other side of a fallen barbed-wire fence.
Re Re Peak 3465' Hells Canyon Wilderness
Posted: Nov 06 2013 7:28 am
by SpiderLegs
Barrett wrote:@SpiderLegs
Yep. I'll be at the trailhead at 5:30 am on Saturday. Headlamps, flashlights, or night vision goggles recommended.
From Phoenix, take I-17 north to the Carefree Highway (SR 74). Turn left on Carefree highway and drive west to Castle Hot Springs Rd (Lake Pleasant exit). Turn north and drive for approximately 5.1 miles to a large pull off on the left side of the road. Careful of deep sand in the parking area. The hike begins at the northwest corner of the parking lot on the other side of a fallen barbed-wire fence.
That's where I parked the last time I did it. Will confirm later today if I'm coming.
Re Peak 3465' Hells Canyon Wilderness
Posted: Nov 07 2013 6:46 am
by SpiderLegs
I'm in and I don't care about the alpine start. Just need to be in my car heading to town by noon.
Re Peak 3465' Hells Canyon Wilderness
Posted: Nov 07 2013 8:19 pm
by burntlizard
I'm disappointed :tt:

- We have a 800 Yard, midnight pour Saturday. Sorry Barrett, maybe next time.
Re Peak 3465' Hells Canyon Wilderness
Posted: Nov 07 2013 9:55 pm
by Barrett
@burntlizard
My darling wife Karen asked who was going on Saturday, and I read her your post. She doesn't know what you do for a living, and she replied "I got your 800 yard midnight pour right here". ;)
God, I love that woman.
I'll see you on the trails...
Re Peak 3465' Hells Canyon Wilderness
Posted: Nov 08 2013 6:11 am
by burntlizard
Funny - sometimes I forget, we often speak our own language in the ready mix concrete business.
Re Re Peak 3465' Hells Canyon Wilderness
Posted: Nov 08 2013 10:09 am
by SpiderLegs
burntlizard wrote:Funny - sometimes I forget, we often speak our own language in the ready mix concrete business.
Every industry has it's own language, used to be in the printing business and always talked about PMS colors and doing gang runs.
Re Peak 3465' Hells Canyon Wilderness
Posted: Nov 09 2013 6:49 am
by BobP
Overslept this morning :tt: