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SMALL PART of Apache-Sitgreaves to close June 11

Posted: Jun 07 2014 8:23 am
by azbackpackr
Edit: Now it's official and it's only near Pinetop, Lakeside, Show Low and Vernon, mostly on the south side of 260. Not much!

Original post: I heard this through the grapevine from someone living in Show Low. I will follow up with a real news report when I can find one. My friend said "entire forest." Just don't make any camping plans until you know for sure.

I have camping plans in the Coke (Coconino NF) in a couple of weeks, so I will be watching carefully, and I will also have a Plan B.

Re: Apache-Sitgreaves to close June 11

Posted: Jun 07 2014 9:02 am
by BEEBEE
I have a friend who is planning on spending the weekend of the 14th in the forest. When he called the Ranger District a few days ago they said they had no plans to close maybe things changed. I just sent him a note to check again.

Re: Apache-Sitgreaves to close June 11

Posted: Jun 07 2014 9:05 am
by azbackpackr
Yeah, I'll update as soon as I have confirmation (or if I find out it was a big fat rumor). But just for now, just have a Plan B.

Re: Rumor: Apache-Sitgreaves to close June 11

Posted: Jun 07 2014 9:57 am
by chumley
I find it to be a great disservice to people to post rumors publicly without confirming. :M2C:

Much like the Slide Fire thread where there were posts about people who knew that the West Fork had been completely obliterated by fire. :roll:

Re: Rumor: Apache-Sitgreaves to close June 11

Posted: Jun 07 2014 10:12 am
by CannondaleKid
chumley wrote:I find it to be a great disservice to people to post rumors publicly without confirming.
What? Like the world is going to end tomorrow?
Ok, that's a bit much, but it WILL end tonight... and in the morning we'll wake up to a new tomorrow, somewhat like Groundhog Day except it won't be a rerun... unless you're in a rut, of course. ;)

Re: Rumor: Apache-Sitgreaves to close June 11

Posted: Jun 07 2014 10:17 am
by azbackpackr
Not sure it's actually a rumor, but you can take it as such right now. I posted it because people might like to think about contingency plans. I've got a pretty good Plan B for my Coconino trip.

Re: Rumor: Apache-Sitgreaves to close June 11

Posted: Jun 07 2014 10:41 am
by chumley
If you are not sure and you haven't verified it then it is a rumor.

By definition. ](*,)

Re: Rumor: Apache-Sitgreaves to close June 11

Posted: Jun 07 2014 10:45 am
by azbackpackr
Chums, would you like an ice bag for your forehead? Seems like lately you've been doing a lot of self-injury. Maybe you should seek professional help for that! :D

Re: Rumor: Apache-Sitgreaves to close June 11

Posted: Jun 07 2014 12:34 pm
by Tough_Boots
The most important issue, though, is whether it is Apache-Sitgreaves, Apache-Sitgreave's, Apache-Sitgreaves', or Apache@Sitgreaves.com. Let's please use HAZ for things that matter, people :D

Re: Rumor: Apache-Sitgreaves to close June 11

Posted: Jun 07 2014 12:42 pm
by azbackpackr
I'm ignoring that. I got hold of the woman who made the declaration about the closure. She backpedaled only a little bit, saying, okay, "rumor has it" but that she had heard it from a "reliable source." She doesn't work for the media. :) So, I'll just hang on until the work week and see what unfolds.

Re: Rumor: Apache-Sitgreaves to close June 11

Posted: Jun 07 2014 12:44 pm
by CannondaleKid
Tough_Boots wrote:Let's please use HAZ for things that matter, people
Like what, as a replacement for social media? Or getting a life? ;)

Hmmm, makes me think I should be out hiking instead of sitting here at the Mac (yes, it's worse than a PC!) on HAZ.

But at least I'm composing descriptions and posting photos and triplogs while I'm on 1-hour standby and therefore can't be hiking.

Re: Rumor: Apache-Sitgreaves to close June 11

Posted: Jun 07 2014 1:21 pm
by gummo
Rumor has it that azbackpackr started this rumor so she can have the whole Apache-Sitgreaves Forest to herself next weekend.

Re: Rumor: Apache-Sitgreaves to close June 11

Posted: Jun 07 2014 1:50 pm
by chumley
@Tough_Boots
:sl:
Thank's for that! ;)

Re: Rumor: Apache-Sitgreaves to close June 11

Posted: Jun 07 2014 3:52 pm
by azbackpackr
gummo wrote:Rumor has it that azbackpackr started this rumor so she can have the whole Apache-Sitgreaves Forest to herself next weekend.
Hmmm, not a bad idea. I haven't been over that way in about 7 months, might be nice, as long as there are no people around!

Re: Rumor: Apache-Sitgreaves to close June 11

Posted: Jun 09 2014 9:17 am
by chumley
I took an exorbitant amount of my personal time (almost 3 whole minutes!) to call the Lakeside Ranger District.

Since I now have first-hand factual information directly from the forest service, I'm going to post it here.

There will be a partial closure of 3 separate portions of the ASNF on the Lakeside Ranger District beginning on Wednesday, 6/11/14. (With a little bit of the Rodeo-Chediski burn area on the Black Mesa District also closed).

I am attaching actual maps of the closure areas.

Hopefully this actual data will help people as they plan their outdoor activities in the weeks to come.

The fire officer I spoke with indicated that the forest order would be available online shortly. He emailed me these maps: The first is the map that is in the forest order, and the two others are more detailed maps of the closure areas.

Re: Rumor: Apache-Sitgreaves to close June 11

Posted: Jun 09 2014 10:03 am
by Nighthiker
Thank you Chums.

Re: Rumor: Apache-Sitgreaves to close June 11

Posted: Jun 09 2014 10:42 am
by The_Eagle

Re: Rumor: Apache-Sitgreaves to close June 11

Posted: Jun 09 2014 1:00 pm
by Jim
@chumley
To be fair to the OP, she posted on Saturday and stated that. It is now Monday, and the FS is open for information.

Re: Rumor: Apache-Sitgreaves to close June 11

Posted: Jun 09 2014 1:27 pm
by chumley
@Jim_H I don't feel that I have been unfair to the OP at all:
azbackpackr wrote:I heard this through the grapevine
azbackpackr wrote:My friend said
azbackpackr wrote:if I find out it was a big fat rumor
azbackpackr wrote:Not sure it's actually a rumor
azbackpackr wrote:She backpedaled only a little bit, saying, okay, "rumor has it" but that she had heard it from a "reliable source."
I'm glad to hear that Elizabeth's friend can get information from the FS that is at least partially accurate. Some of what was posted was not accurate.

I stand by my original assertion that posting it in a public forum without knowing details is a disservice to the people who read it. The post title did not originally include the word rumor. It was stated as fact.

Re: Parts of Apache-Sitgreaves will close June 11

Posted: Jun 09 2014 3:40 pm
by chumley
The official forest order has now been posted online:
http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOC ... 803846.pdf