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Rattlesnake Selfies are not recommended

Posted: Aug 26 2015 2:30 pm
by chumley
His mom seems to have summed it up perfectly. (emphasis and emoticon added)
A Lake Elsinore man was bitten by a rattlesnake Monday as he picked it up and attempted to take a selfie.
Alex Gomez, 36, spotted the four-foot rattler in a field by his family’s ranch on Cielito Drive, shortly before he made the potentially deadly mistake.

“I’m shocked that he would have that thing around his neck :o ,” Alex’s mother Deborah said. “It could’ve bit his neck, and that would have been it. That’s just being a fool.”
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015/08/ ... ttlesnake/

Re: Rattlesnake Selfies are not recommended

Posted: Aug 26 2015 2:49 pm
by AZWanderingBear
You just cain't cure stupid.

Re: Rattlesnake Selfies are not recommended

Posted: Aug 26 2015 3:02 pm
by CannondaleKid
AZ Wandering Bear wrote:You just cain't cure stupid.
I do say there Wanderin' Bar, a selfie with a scatter gun wud prob'ly cure stoopid jus' fine, thank ye!

Whut's that you say? Too much mess fur ye? Well, I s'pose a 9mm between them beadie eyes would do

Re: Rattlesnake Selfies are not recommended

Posted: Aug 26 2015 3:08 pm
by Dave1
Check out this guy harassing snakes at GCNP:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InCBGbD_L6c&t=33m8s

Re: Rattlesnake Selfies are not recommended

Posted: Aug 26 2015 3:18 pm
by azbackpackr
@Dave1
Illegal, of course. Probably didn't get caught.

Re: Rattlesnake Selfies are not recommended

Posted: Aug 26 2015 4:46 pm
by chumley
Dave1 wrote: Check out this guy harassing snakes
On HAZ it's called Wildlife Handling and Feeding.
;)

Re: Rattlesnake Selfies are not recommended

Posted: Aug 26 2015 4:58 pm
by PatrickL
It says "attempted." After all of that he didn't even get the shot?

Edit: I didn't watch the video. He got it! :y:

Re: Rattlesnake Selfies are not recommended

Posted: Aug 26 2015 5:04 pm
by joebartels
Do we need another sign on camelback just to be safe?

Is it really illegal to handle a snake in Arizona?

Re: Rattlesnake Selfies are not recommended

Posted: Aug 26 2015 5:13 pm
by Grasshopper
joe bartels wrote:Do we need another sign on camelback just to be safe?

Is it really illegal to handle a snake in Arizona?
I personally hope it is illegal.

Re: Rattlesnake Selfies are not recommended

Posted: Aug 26 2015 5:33 pm
by skatchkins
Did that blue dress newslady get bit too?

Re: Rattlesnake Selfies are not recommended

Posted: Aug 26 2015 5:44 pm
by chumley
joe bartels wrote:Is it really illegal to handle a snake in Arizona?
Arizona Revised Statutes prohibit you from "taking" wildlife (hunting excluded of course) and also state that you can't "possess" wildlife.

Federal Statutes prevent "taking" of species which are "threatened" or "endangered" under the Federal Endangered Species Act.

The Federal Endangered Species Act defines "taking" as any attempt to "harass, harm, pursue, hunt, shoot, wound, kill, trap, capture, or collect". What they consider to be harassment is probably up for discussion.

Since the video was in the National Park, and if the legal definition of harassment was being met then it would only be illegal if that snake is recognized as a threatened or endangered species.

I don't know if state law uses the same definition of "taking" as defined in the Federal Endangered Species Act. That definition does not appear in ARS.

Re: Rattlesnake Selfies are not recommended

Posted: Aug 26 2015 6:25 pm
by AZWanderingBear
CannondaleKid wrote: I do say there Wanderin' Bar, a selfie with a scatter gun wud prob'ly cure stoopid jus' fine, thank ye!

Whut's that you say? Too much mess fur ye? Well, I s'pose a 9mm between them beadie eyes would do
Well there's that. Or you might try counseling.

Re: Rattlesnake Selfies are not recommended

Posted: Aug 26 2015 8:03 pm
by gummo
joe bartels wrote:Do we need another sign on camelback just to be safe?

Is it really illegal to handle a snake in Arizona?
No, not in AZ, but it is illegal in Nat'l Parks unless you are moving out of harm's way, like if the snake is in the road or too close to a bathroom or campsite. A park ranger told me that.

It might be illegal to handle venomous snakes if you pin their head, as that would be harrassment, in my opinion.

Re: Rattlesnake Selfies are not recommended

Posted: Aug 26 2015 8:40 pm
by azbackpackr
At Grand Canyon it is illegal to approach wildlife. Period. There are quite a few signs up. Now, the citation they give you for walking up to a deer probably isn't going to carry a big fine, but it IS illegal to willfully approach wildlife.

Re: Rattlesnake Selfies are not recommended

Posted: Aug 27 2015 9:34 am
by JasonCleghorn
Dave1 wrote:Check out this guy harassing snakes at GCNP:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InCBGbD_L6c&t=33m8s
I almost cannot believe what I just saw... Terrible, just awfully terrible.

Re: Rattlesnake Selfies are not recommended

Posted: Aug 27 2015 3:26 pm
by CannondaleKid
@Jason Cleghorn If someone passes the link on to the Park Service i wouldn't doubt there might be a stern warn in the future of the poster.

Reminds me of the guys that rode their bikes through part of the canyon and the posted video came back and bit them.

Re: Rattlesnake Selfies are not recommended

Posted: Aug 27 2015 6:41 pm
by Tortoise_Hiker
CannondaleKid wrote:bit them.
I see what you did there.