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Galiuro Mountains area prescribed burn - road/ trail closures

Posted: Mar 05 2017 6:43 pm
by hikeaz
Access to some of the trails near/around Power's Garden are affected. As of this weekend High Creek Road is closed to visitation as are a significant portion the trails, according to the posted signs at H.C. Road and FR 660 (although Ash Creek Trail was not affected).

The Safford Ranger District of the Coronado National Forest expects to begin the Paddy’s River Prescribed Fire as early as mid- December, 2016 (Actually started 2/17). The project area consists of National Forest System lands in the southern portion of the Galiuro Mountains in southeastern Arizona, and is included in the Coronado’s Galiuro FireScape Project.

The project boundaries lie between High Creek on the south and Deer Creek on the north and contains the Paddy’s River drainage, Black Canyon, Wood Canyon, and High Creek including both wilderness and non-wilderness land in rugged terrain.

Approximately 15, 000 acres are planned for the burn, which will be implemented in stages. Burning may continue through July, 2017 (Signs say 8/17), with ignitions occurring as fuel and weather conditions become suitable.

Fire has played an important ecological role in the history of the grassland and woodland ecosystems of southeastern Arizona. Regular intervals of naturally-occurring fire restricted the growth of shrubs in grasslands, thinned forests of fire-intolerant trees, increased stream flows, and renewed wildlife habitat. A decrease in the frequency of natural fire has resulted in areas of dense, overgrown vegetation and the accumulation of fuel available for wildfires.

The project is designed to reduce the accumulation of hazardous fuels, improve range and watershed conditions, improve wildlife habitat, return the ecosystem to a more fire-resilient state, and reduce the likelihood of future high-intensity wildfires within the project area. By reducing the probability of extreme fire behavior in future wildland fires, the intent is to subsequently reduce the threats to firefighter and public safety as well as reduce costs and resource damage due to fires.

Smoke will be visible periodically from Sulphur Springs Valley and Bonita, Willcox, Benson, San Manuel, Klondyke and the surrounding areas for the duration of the project. Temporary road and trail closures will go into effect as prescribed fire activities progress. Closure orders will be posted as appropriate. (These do NOT seem to be on the CNF website, just posted on paper signs once you arrive at the access road(s). ](*,)
Link to closure order > https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DO ... 531424.pdf. See if it works for YOU?

For further information please contact the Safford Ranger District Office at (928) 428-4150 between 8:00 a.m. and 4:30 p.m. The office is of course closed weekends and federal holidays. Hopefully the phone is manned by someone other than the one who checks the operation of their web links.

Re: Powers Mine area - High Creek,

Posted: Mar 05 2017 7:12 pm
by cactuscat
I was just out there a few days ago - drove the road from Bonita about 24 miles up to where it turns toward Pima, then turned around and drove a few miles of the road to Deer Creek ... didn't see any closures, signs, or fires.

Re: Powers Mine area - High Creek,

Posted: Mar 05 2017 8:34 pm
by big_load
There is some very heavy growth in that area. Parts of the trail from High Creek down to Holdout Spring were almost impassable on my last visit. Fire is probably overdue.

Re: Powers Mine area - High Creek

Posted: Mar 06 2017 2:05 pm
by joebartels
I'm not sure what trails this affects. I linked what I could figure out as possible so it shows up on the description pages. Holler if you know better.

Re: Powers Mine area - High Creek

Posted: Mar 06 2017 2:18 pm
by big_load
@joebartels
I figure that portions of the East Divide Trail may also be affected.

Re: Powers Mine area - High Creek

Posted: Mar 06 2017 3:06 pm
by chumley
While it's not on HAZ -- or the Coronado website of hiking pages -- but it is on the FS topo and the Coronado Map....

Paddy's River Trail #293 is squarely in the middle of the prescribed burn area. Does it exist? That's a question for somebody who knows more about the area than I do!
https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_ME ... 003435.jpg

Interestingly, the 2014 Oak Fire already burned most of the area between Paddy's River to the northern boundary of this prescribed burn (Deer Creek). But there is probably plenty of dead and down on the ground as a result of that one. Kennedy Peak was torched.

This is all part of the Galiuro Firescape Project ... of which there is scant information available online. Other Arizona Firescape projects have information and maps. The Galiuro Firescape project does not.

Re: Powers Mine area - High Creek

Posted: Mar 06 2017 4:17 pm
by Oregon_Hiker
I was at the Deer Creek TH on March 1. A map was posted on the TH gate showing the closed area. I took a photo of the map which might help answer some of the questions I see in this forum. [ photo ]

Re: Powers Mine area - High Creek

Posted: Mar 06 2017 4:44 pm
by chumley
@Oregon_Hiker
Cool Thanks!

That map means that ONLY the High Creek and East Divide trails are affected right now. But the text description also says that the north boundary is Deer Creek, which is well north of the boundary as marked on the FS map and could be part of a closure at some future time in the burn process.

Closure boundary on a HAZ map:
https://hikearizona.com/map.php?MY=26998&M=1

Re: Powers Mine area - High Creek

Posted: Mar 06 2017 5:12 pm
by joebartels
@big_load @Oregon_Hiker
thank you!

@chumley
your https://hikearizona.com/map.php?MY=26998&M=1 map makes it easy to decipher!

Re: Powers Mine area - High Creek

Posted: Mar 06 2017 11:14 pm
by hikeaz
Old data on the USFS plans for the area, but enlightening....https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DO ... 295148.pdf

Re: Powers Mine area - High Creek

Posted: Mar 07 2017 12:27 am
by hikeaz
chumley wrote:While it's not on HAZ -- or the Coronado website of hiking pages -- but it is on the FS topo and the Coronado Map....

Paddy's River Trail #293 is squarely in the middle of the prescribed burn area. Does it exist? That's a question for somebody who knows more about the area than I do!
As found on an April, 2013...
I found the unreadable 60 year old sign laying in a pile next to the trail
Kind of hit and miss with the trail, but on the section that required it – a narrow, very brushy section of canyon area – it was follow-able.
http://www.steeptrails.com/

Re: Powers Mine area - High Creek

Posted: Mar 07 2017 7:26 am
by chumley
@hikeaz
Thanks Kurt. Sounds like my kind of trail! :)

Re: Powers Mine area - High Creek

Posted: Mar 07 2017 2:34 pm
by cactuscat
Noticed this from up on Graham today - I am bad with directions/landmarks from above, but guessing it's in the right area?

Re: Powers Mine area - High Creek

Posted: Mar 07 2017 2:46 pm
by chumley
@cactuscat
Yikes! That's quite a lot of fire activity!

It appears to be burning in the Paddys River drainage, assuming you took the photo from the Swift Trail somewhere between Ladybug Saddle and Hagens Point.

Re: Powers Mine area - High Creek

Posted: Mar 07 2017 2:50 pm
by cactuscat
@chumley
Not even sure where Hagens Point is, but yeah ... it was between Ladybug Saddle and Snow Flat.
Glad I caught it, then! :)

Re: Galiuro Mountains area prescribed burn - road/ trail closures

Posted: Mar 08 2017 3:31 pm
by RedRoxx44
Lots of smoke in area. As of 3:30 today nothing on InciWeb regarding this, no notations of Winter Prescribed burns for Coronado on that site.

Re: Galiuro Mountains area prescribed burn - road/ trail closures

Posted: Mar 13 2017 6:23 am
by RedRoxx44
Just got back from a quick backpack, Deer Creek open, down Tortilla trail. No sign of smoke nor any air activity I could see or hear. Did not go to Garden, went back up toward Power Hill, camped by some big pools, then out the old sycamore pack trail. Trail is hard to follow in lower part. Lots of slickrock and some small waterfalls. Missed a connector trail and then came back out part of Tortilla trail I would rather not have. Good weather, a good amount of water in the drainages. Drove the Sunset loop back, most of the fire was laying down, and the most smoke activity at the base near the grasslands. The only sign of the FS besides some signage was a lot of heavy equipment and some concrete road sections type berms parked in the hunter meadow at Ash Creek.

Re: Galiuro Mountains area prescribed burn - road/ trail closures

Posted: Mar 13 2017 6:56 am
by cactuscat
@RedRoxx44
How was the road to Deer Creek TH? I only got a couple miles down it last week when I realized I forgot to gas up, and had to turn around.

Re: Galiuro Mountains area prescribed burn - road/ trail closures

Posted: Mar 13 2017 8:28 am
by RedRoxx44
Road in good shape, water running at the first crossing but not anything to worry about. When I left someone in a Honda accord parked nearby. I was impressed such a low rider made it that far.

Re: Galiuro Mountains area prescribed burn - road/ trail closures

Posted: Mar 13 2017 1:27 pm
by cactuscat
@RedRoxx44
Thanks!