that rain was going now but not too heavy. I always like these grassy sections. Sometimes I couldn't tell where the trail went save for the downtrodden grass from the hikers that had gone before me at 2:27 based on Lee's pic of the same area: http://hikearizona.com/photo=442627 I was only 17-18 minutes behind??? (remember - need to add 7 minutes to my camera time 2:45) It seems like I had to be further behind as I had a few times when I had trouble finding the route.