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See Canyon Trail #184 - 63 members in 217 triplogs have rated this an average 3.5 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Sep 29 2018
Crzy4AZ
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48 female
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Highline Trail #31Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Sep 29 2018
Crzy4AZ
Hiking3.19 Miles 403 AEG
Hiking3.19 Miles   1 Hour   47 Mns   2.49 mph
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Leaves not changing yet but can see the bright green will be yellow soon. 75 degrees and breezy.
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Aug 02 2018
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 Fountain Hills,
See Canyon - Drew Loop, AZ 
See Canyon - Drew Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Aug 02 2018
DixieFlyer
Hiking11.90 Miles 2,000 AEG
Hiking11.90 Miles   5 Hrs   50 Mns   2.56 mph
2,000 ft AEG   1 Hour   11 Mns Break
 
1st trip
Tracie, my intrepid hiking partner, and I decided to escape the heat of the VOS and go up to the Rim Country past Payson.

We started and ended the hike at the See Canyon TH, and we did a clockwise loop up to the Rim on the See Canyon Trail, and came back down off of the Rim on the Drew Trail.

I enjoy hiking up See Canyon, even though there aren't any great views...but the forest was lush and green this time of year, although there wasn't as much water flowing through Christopher Creek as I would have guessed. Once we got up on the Rim, we took a right on Rim Road 300 for a short distance until we got to the intersection where FR 208 turns to the left to go toward Bear Canyon Lake. We took a right at this intersection and followed some forest roads and (I presume) part of the General Crook Trail to the Drew Trail. It was roughly 4 miles to get from the TH to the Rim Road, and another 4 miles to get to the Drew Trail. It was just a hair over one mile to descend Drew down to the Highline Trail; then we went west on the Highline for about 2 3/4 miles back to the TH.

This section of the Highline Trail was nice -- the trail was not rocky, and it mostly gently sloped downhill to the TH.

The only wildlife that we saw was a squirrel and a few birds. We did see a couple of interesting mushrooms though.

One section of the hike was on the edge of the Rim, which offered some nice views to the south. There was also a nice view of Promontory Butte from the Highline Trail.

This is a nice little hike, although I think that it would be better in the fall.

It was 63 degrees when we started the hike, and it was probably in the low 80's when we got back to the TH. The weather forecast called for a 60% chance of thunderstorms, mainly after 11 AM. We got on the trail about 6:45 and got back to the TH around 12:30. By the time we were back there were rumbles of thunder and some dark clouds off to the north up above the rim -- so I was glad that we got an early start.
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May 12 2018
DixieFlyer
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 Fountain Hills,
See Canyon to Bear Canyon Lake, AZ 
See Canyon to Bear Canyon Lake, AZ
 
Hiking avatar May 12 2018
DixieFlyer
Hiking12.70 Miles 3,000 AEG
Hiking12.70 Miles   5 Hrs   51 Mns   2.85 mph
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I did this hike a few weeks ago, and decided to escape the hot weather in the Valley and do the hike again. The weather was perfect for the hike, although it was a bit cool and windy at Bear Canyon Lake.

When we got to the Rim Road, we crossed the road and made a short cross-country jaunt to hit FR208. Shortly after crossing the Rim Road we came upon a porcupine, which was the first one of them that I had ever seen. The porcupine scurried along the ground, and then climbed up a tree.

On the way back we went up the See Spring trail to the spring. This spring wasn't as nice as Horton Spring, but it was very nice and peaceful up there.
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Apr 29 2018
toddak
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 Puhoynix, AZ
Highline Trail #31Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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toddak
Hiking25.00 Miles 3,500 AEG
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From 260 trailhead: Warmup to the rim and back on MS179, then lollipop out Highline, up Drew, across on General Crook, down See Canyon, back on Highline. Nice breezy day. Plenty of clean flow in See Canyon below the spring.
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Apr 05 2018
DixieFlyer
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 Fountain Hills,
See Canyon to Bear Canyon Lake, AZ 
See Canyon to Bear Canyon Lake, AZ
 
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DixieFlyer
Hiking11.70 Miles 2,400 AEG
Hiking11.70 Miles   6 Hrs   25 Mns   2.53 mph
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This is an enjoyable out-and-back hike from the See Canyon TH to the southern shores of Bear Canyon Like.

We took the See Canyon Trail #184 for 4 miles until we came to the George Crook Trail #140. Then we took a short cross country jaunt until we hit Forest Service Road #208 (you could have taken a right on the General Crook Trail and then turned left once you got to FR 208, but this is a shorter and more direct route). We continued on FR 208 until we got to the Two-0-Eight TH. From there we went a short distance on Bear Canyon Lake Trail #112 until we got to Bear Canyon Lake.

The See Canyon Trail #184 was generally well-maintained, although it got a bit steep after 2 1/2 miles or so. I thought that Bear Canyon Lake was really pretty, and there was a good bit of snow still on the ground there.
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Mar 31 2018
Tough_Boots
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 Joined Mar 28 2008
 Phoenix, AZ
Drew / See Canyon Loop, AZ 
Drew / See Canyon Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Mar 31 2018
Tough_Boots
Hiking11.22 Miles 2,057 AEG
Hiking11.22 Miles   5 Hrs   20 Mns   2.27 mph
2,057 ft AEG      24 Mns Break
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Up Drew and down See Canyon. We only saw a handful of hikers all day. I didn't realize 300 was open already and was surprised to see campers up on the rim. Beautiful day out.
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Feb 20 2018
chumley
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 Tempe, AZ
See Snow Bear, AZ 
See Snow Bear, AZ
 
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chumley
Snowshoeing12.93 Miles 2,468 AEG
Snowshoeing12.93 Miles   6 Hrs   29 Mns   2.18 mph
2,468 ft AEG      33 Mns Break
 
1st trip
Despite the latest storm being a dud, I decided to take advantage of the cold weather and spend the day outside. I don't think the temps got over 25. :y:

Not much more than a dusting at the trailhead increased steadily to about 4" of new snow above 7k. At about 7500 feet, the previous snowpack required me to switch to snowshoes.

I had followed the tracks of a pair of coyotes that had followed the trail for 3 miles. They were absolutely spot on the route-finding, which otherwise would have featured a few hiccups in the snow. But they didn't cut switchbacks and even went under/over/through deadfall sections to stay on the trail. It was actually a bit impressive to follow their tracks for such a long stretch.

Once on the rim, I headed over to Forest Road 208 for the additional 2 miles to the lake. This was a challenging stretch because the existing snowpack had developed a thin crust and with each step I partially broke through the crusty layer under the new snow. Needless to say, breaking the trail through that was exhausting. (Snowshoeing should count for double miles!)

The reward was the lake, which was much fuller than Knoll, only about 4 feet low. I'd guess there's enough snowpack on the ground right now to fill it.

On the return trip, I stopped by the Promontory Lookout Tower and the Promontory Snotel remote weather site. A quick section on the Crook trail brought me back to See and a much quicker downhill than the morning climb!

This was a good new winter destination. :)

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Appears to be about 4 feet below full pool

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Jan 13 2018
The_N
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 Joined Mar 18 2015
 Payson, AZ
Derrick-Prom-See-High-Horton, AZ 
Derrick-Prom-See-High-Horton, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jan 13 2018
The_N
Hiking24.63 Miles 4,944 AEG
Hiking24.63 Miles   7 Hrs   48 Mns   3.18 mph
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Good little Rim Country leg stretcher. I figured hitting Promontory would increase my chances of seeing snow. Started up Derrick and onto Promontory. The climb up was over quicky. The trail is in great shape and easier than ever to follow. Thin layers of snow clung to the shade. There was some snow on top of the butte, not nearly as much as there should be. A mere inches of crunchy snow blanketed the forest floor. It was a desolate road walk across the butte. My 'winter wonderland' for the day. Tread was snow, ice and frozen earth. Avoid the ice and you're fine. The short walk on Rim Rd was the same. The upper reaches of See Cyn was a little winter-like. That ended quickly. Trail was dry, no mud. Midway down it turns to a fall scene. Passed a couple of dog walkers as I cruised on down to the TH to jump on Highline. Ate my lunch as I made my way over to Horton. It was sunny and warm now. The 30 degree starting temp turned to 60. Stopped at the spring to grab a little water before making my dash back to the TH. Passed a couple families out for a stroll. Fantastic weather for an outing in Rim Country. Saw a dozen elk and a few deer.
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Nov 24 2017
shariw
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 PV, AZ
See Canyon Trail #184Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Nov 24 2017
shariw
Hiking4.00 Miles 1,874 AEG
Hiking4.00 Miles   3 Hrs   30 Mns   1.33 mph
1,874 ft AEG      30 Mns Break6 LBS Pack
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Beautiful hike and not too crowded. The trail is marked well enough, but certainly not a road. Elevation gain was not too hard, but a great workout for consistent cardio. Felt great after the hike! - we so needed to get out of the city!
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Autumn Foliage Observation Isolated
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Nov 12 2017
emilystardust
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 Phoenix, AZ
See Canyon Trail #184Payson, AZ
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Hiking5.00 Miles 1,874 AEG
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Oct 23 2017
donqcryer
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 Payson, AZ &
See Canyon Trail #184Payson, AZ
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Hiking avatar Oct 23 2017
donqcryer
Hiking6.90 Miles 1,874 AEG
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Autumn Foliage Observation Extreme
Went back for 5th time this foliage season. TH parking lot is now a little past peak, but still Extreme. The trail up See Canyon, especially beginning about 2 miles in is close to peak and vibrant. Going east on Highline and up the first canyon (approximately 2 miles from S.C. TH) is now past peak but still colorful, but will not last much longer with significant leaf fall...
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Oct 22 2017
MountainMatt
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 Arizona
See Canyon Trail #184Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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MountainMatt
Hiking3.48 Miles 562 AEG
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Joel was in town and invited me to join him for a quick fall color rendezvous up to the spring.
Arrival at See Spring was a tad disappointing but kind of what I suspected after trending foliage patterns beneath the rim.
As usual we split up and Joel stayed at the spring and I headed back downstream and off trail to where I saw a splash of color in the distance.
We both stayed until after dark and met back at the TH and shared our photos.
Always a pleasure anytime we can link up and coordinate our schedules no matter how short the hike.
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Autumn Foliage Observation Substantial
Great color in the lower sections and along the draws above the westside of the creekbed but the upper section near See Spring was lacking spunk with lots of green and duds.

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Oct 20 2017
donqcryer
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 Payson, AZ &
See Canyon Trail #184Payson, AZ
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Hiking avatar Oct 20 2017
donqcryer
Hiking6.90 Miles 1,874 AEG
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Autumn Foliage Observation Extreme
TH parking lot area is at Peak. Trail up See Canyon significant color and at pre to near peak
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Oct 17 2017
donqcryer
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Hiking6.90 Miles 1,874 AEG
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Autumn Foliage Observation Substantial
The See Canyon TH parking lot maples are showing good color, but still pre-peak. The first canyon on Highline going east from TH (about 40 minutes in..) is showing extreme color and close to peak in spots
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Oct 14 2017
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 Phoenix, AZ
See Bear Beaver Loop, AZ 
See Bear Beaver Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Oct 14 2017
joebartels
Hiking17.77 Miles 3,435 AEG
Hiking17.77 Miles   9 Hrs   6 Mns   2.16 mph
3,435 ft AEG      52 Mns Break6 LBS Pack
 
1st trip
Headed up to See Spring first. Little to no color, maybe in a week.

Midway up See Canyon is currently the best display of foliage color. Colour in the upper stretch too.

Headed up to Bear Canyon Lake. I love this little lake. As mentioned in the description there is no maintained trail on the east. The footing was too slippery in pine needles slanting to the lake to be safe for my current balance. We just went up to the first road. Campers galore along the road and with good reason as it's a great forest area.

Over the dam and onto the designated trail. Immediately knew parking was near based on all the non hikers fishing and roaming.

We looped over to Beaver Canyon for a bit then out a tributary. Our canyon getting to Beaver showed a red carpet of Autumn past. Beaver was scenic. The tributary we took out wasn't exciting and thankfully Bruce agreed to climb out.

Back down See Canyon was a good color show. Fab Autumn temps all day. 1.7 liters water/gatorade was plenty in the fanny pack. Beginning to wonder if half the Camelbak water is for the back sweat it creates!
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Nappa Spring
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Autumn Foliage Observation Substantial
Midway up See Canyon. Lower See has not turned yet, maybe next week. Above the rim on our loop was over for maples, just scattered Aspen looking mighty yella
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Oct 14 2017
The_Eagle
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 Far NE Phoenix,
See Bear Beaver, AZ 
See Bear Beaver, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Oct 14 2017
The_Eagle
Hiking18.37 Miles 3,502 AEG
Hiking18.37 Miles   9 Hrs   8 Mns   2.17 mph
3,502 ft AEG      40 Mns Break14 LBS Pack
 
Three goals on the day.

Color, I wanted to see the autumnal pallet.
Bear Canyon Lake, never been, wanted to see it.
Search a Beaver side canyon for color

See Spring Trail - The color is starting. The next two weeks should be prime.

See Canyon Trail - light to moderate until you hit the half way point. The trees are in their prime all the way to the top from here.

At the top, we saw our first evidence of the logging/thinning going on up here.

We took FR208 to the south TH of Bear Canyon Lake and dropped to the lake.
We decided to do a CCW track around the east side, following use trails. The trail got a bit thin and the side hill slope got a bit bothersome after a while, and Billy Goat Joe just needed to go uphill. We skedaddled up to the nearest FR and made our way to the dam.

Plenty of campers on this road, as this is the easiest access to the lake. The road takes you right to the dam.

I was hoping to see some fall color around the lake, but saw nothing but conifers. This is a scenic lake that I'll need to come back to.

We headed westish out of the lake to sample some Beaver Canyon. Spotty color, with the majority of it on the ground on the way there. It's easy going in Beaver Canyon. I'm curious how it got its name.

From here we headed over to a side canyon north of Rattlesnake Ridge looking for color. After striking out for 3/4 of a mile. Joey Goat felt the need to climb out.

We TH'ered the Forest Roads back to See Canyon, to enjoy the colors back down to the truck.

Absolutely perfect temps all day long.
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Autumn Foliage Observation Moderate
Light, lower on See Canyon Trail.
Substantial, starting half way up.
Spotty, on top of the rim.

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Plenty of water all around this area

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Oct 13 2017
friendofThundergod
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See Canyon Trail #184Payson, AZ
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friendofThundergod
Hiking3.06 Miles 484 AEG
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After striking out on Deer Creek, I headed up to See Canyon with the pups. A few people on the trails, not much for fall colors, but the dogs had a good time.
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The poison ivy is at its peak fall color
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Oct 09 2017
donqcryer
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 Payson, AZ &
See Canyon Trail #184Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Oct 09 2017
donqcryer
Hiking6.90 Miles 1,874 AEG
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There is beginning to be good color on the highline trail about 1.5 miles EAST on the Highline trail from the See Canyon TH. This where the Highline goes up a canyon after about 3/4 mile from the TH. The most color is at the bottom of the canyon along the old, now closed, trail (if you can find it...) A very large stand of maples are at 34.333384, -110.991765. After that, the Highline climbs away from the canyon/wash bottom and traverses higher dryer terrain.
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Oct 02 2017
donqcryer
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See Canyon Trail #184Payson, AZ
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Hiking avatar Oct 02 2017
donqcryer
Hiking6.90 Miles 1,874 AEG
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Autumn Foliage Observation Isolated
Foliage may be late this year. Just a few maples starting to turn
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Sep 10 2017
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 Fountain Hills,
See Canyon Trail #184Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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KBKB
Hiking6.90 Miles 1,874 AEG
Hiking6.90 Miles   5 Hrs   35 Mns   1.59 mph
1,874 ft AEG   1 Hour   15 Mns Break30 LBS Pack
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Marilyn and I hiked See Canyon Trail up to the road and back.

Conditions were cool and damp on the way out. Tall wet grass at the sides of trail caused our legs and feet to get wet. Brushing up against small trees created mini-showers as the leaves shed their wetness. The trail was slightly muddy in spots, but the ground was surprisingly firm.

We managed the creek crossings without getting wet. The first crossing has some logs which one can walk across; there's even a high log which may be used as a handrail. The other crossings were accomplished via rock hopping.

We were both surprised at how mellow the rate of ascent seemed. While there were some moderately steep sections, most did not last very long. Usually, a steep section would be followed by a section of either flat or even slightly downhill terrain. The final part of the trail, perhaps a quarter mile or so, just before it levels off near the road, is a somewhat more sustained climb. For the most part though, the hike ascends fairly gradually to the rim. It seemed like an easy way to obtain over 1800 feet of ascent in a seven mile hike.

There are many views of forest on the way up, but due to the tree density, the views are really not very expansive. The top doesn't have especially good views either. When you get to the end of the trail, the only thing different from views on the way up is that of Forest Road 300. Even so, we both liked the hike as it's significantly different from the desert hikes that we often do.

The parking lot was very busy - we managed to snag the last spot in the parking lot. It appeared that most everyone there had camped out the night before.

My GPS watch followed the official route almost exactly except for the first quarter mile. The current trail goes north along the west side of Christopher Creek for nearly a quarter mile before crossing over the east side. The official route shows the trail heading eastward, crossing the creek within the first tenth of a mile.
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