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Aug 06 2014
joebartels
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 Phoenix, AZ
Reavis Gap, Fireline & Campaign Creek LoopGlobe, AZ
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Hiking avatar Aug 06 2014
joebartels
Hiking17.01 Miles 3,595 AEG
Hiking17.01 Miles   5 Hrs   46 Mns   2.99 mph
3,595 ft AEG      5 Mns Break14 LBS Pack
 
2014 Reavis Apple report... bumper crop!

Heading up the Gap trail it looked very dry. Shocked to see every apple tree loaded down to the ground with apples galore.

The summer time treat of wildflowers is nowhere to be found.

Reavis Gap Trail #117
Tread is still in decent condition. Not much overgrowth of concern.

Campaign Trail #256
Seemed par for course. Hint of route finding in the creek once or twice. Not really a bushwhack, more of a brush push for several miles. Catclaw in the lower portion is twist and dodge avoidable for the most part. Three medium scratches, so I fared okay in shorts.

Still love this loop. A great hike anytime of the year when it isn't freezing.

jj really liked Bruce's idea of naming HAZ Tracks... Route Scout. In addition, speech dyslexia today created an interesting name for an app... Snoto Fap!

Took 4 quarts frozen solid, used 3.
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Wildflowers Observation None
literally none


water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Reavis Creek at Fireline #118 Light flow Light flow
same as ten days ago, plenty for the masses and probably still a cool 64 degrees

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Reavis Creek at Gap Trail #117 Pools to trickle Pools to trickle
Not much, enough to filter in a pinch. Ten gallons drying up quick. I'd imagine from a recent storm.
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Jul 26 2014
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West Pinto - Campaign - Fireline - Reavis Loop, AZ 
West Pinto - Campaign - Fireline - Reavis Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jul 26 2014
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Hiking22.20 Miles 5,500 AEG
Hiking22.20 Miles   13 Hrs   30 Mns   2.22 mph
5,500 ft AEG   3 Hrs   30 Mns Break16 LBS Pack
 
1st trip
West Pinto Trail #212
Still in mighty fine condition. It grows on me more and more with each trip. Familiarity with Sawtooth Ridge helps in understanding the terrain.

Campaign Trail #256
From West Pinto Creek to the saddle west of Pinto Peak 5,981 is brush free and in good condition. From the saddle down to Fireline junction I'd recommend pants. We fared okay in shorts dancing around the catclaw.

Fireline Trail #118
Trail is in fair condition. Redfield would not approve the cut of this trail for a good third of it's stretch. We traveled E>W which I prefer for better footing. Coming down to Campaign on the Fireline is a bit loose due to lack of switchbacks. Love the pines and diversity on this trail.

Reavis Ranch via 109 South
Fireline to Reavis Saddle is among my favorite stretches of hiking. I'm especially fond of late afternoon in the summer. 83 degrees, puffy fraleys and pleasant breezes made this another relaxing stroll. The grass clump field is easier to navigate this year. You can see the trail most of the way, no total blind spots.

Carried and consumed 5 litters. Pumped a quart, didn't use. The humidity early on was the only unpleasant part of the hike for myself. Planned to have an extra shirt to rotate for drying, forgot it.
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Wildflowers Observation Light
a few tall patches of Indian Paintbrush heading down W Pinto, a few smaller types on occasion

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Reavis Creek at Fireline #118 Light flow Light flow
Typical light flow for mid summer.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Rogers Spring Dripping Dripping
we saw the small puddles, if you go up to the source there may still be the faucet that flows like a fire hydrant
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Jul 26 2014
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West Pinto-Campaign-FireLine-Reavis Loop, AZ 
West Pinto-Campaign-FireLine-Reavis Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jul 26 2014
The_Eagle
Hiking22.93 Miles 5,440 AEG
Hiking22.93 Miles   13 Hrs   27 Mns   2.30 mph
5,440 ft AEG   3 Hrs   28 Mns Break18 LBS Pack
 
1st trip
Joe's turn to pick, so where's the most logical place to go to hike in July. Let's go to the Supe's.

FR172A to the Rogers TH, is about as rough as I've seen it in awhile. I wouldn't take a passenger car, HC recommended

Started at 6:55a in the low 70's and finished at 8:20p at 79f. In between, it got a little warm. We made use of shade where it was available, and thank god for the breeze that blew most of the day.

Started the day off right a half mile in. 10 yards away from the trail, what appeared to be a large jack rabbit at first glance, was the tiniest of fawns bounding away 50 yds and stopping.

This part of the West Pinto #212 was new to me and with this section I have been on the entire length. Pretty views, the trail is in good shape for the most part. We took a side trip to the Silver Spur Cabin. At this point it appears to be more like an old Hobo camp.

We took a little break at the West Pinto / Campaign junction, to rest for the biggest climb of the day (2.8 miles / 1800AEG). That climb on Campaign #256 seemed to take forever. We took an extended lunch under the tall pines at the Campaign #256 / Fireline junction #118.

Next the 1 mile 800' AEG climb up Fireline #118. Coming from the East, this trail has a lot to offer, especially to the Circlestone turn off. At Reavis Creek, we filtered some much needed water.

Reavis #109 South was a breeze w/ cooler weather. I love going through the grassy areas.
The Reavis #109 could actually use a good trimming up top.

We got warned by a juvenile Buzzworm on the climb up to the car.

Fauna spotted, 1 Roadrunner on the way in, the Fawn, a buck in velvet, Giant Centipede, Baby buzzworm.
Bear Scat everywhere on this loop. One of these days, maybe a sighting in the supes for me.

Encountered scattered Poison Ivy along the way, but not itching yet.
Brought 5 quarts, filtered and drank a total of 7
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dry Lower Campaign Spring Dry Dry
Didn't go into the creek bed, but nothing was obvious from the trail

dry Oak Flat Spring Dry Dry
Nothing obvious

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Reavis Creek at Fireline #118 Light flow Light flow
Wonderful 64 degree filterable water


water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Rogers Spring Dripping Dripping
The trough no longer works and we did not go to the source, but a leaky pipe along the way showed that water was available if you looked for it.

dry Spencer Spring Creek Dry Dry
Nothing obvious
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Feb 07 2014
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Reavis Gap, Fireline & Campaign Creek LoopGlobe, AZ
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Backpack30.30 Miles 6,775 AEG
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We started at the Rogers Through trailhead a little before 9pm on Friday night, was 36F when we arrived. Set up camp for the night in Reavis and awoke to 20F the following morning. Saturday we took the Reavis Gap trail over into Campaign creek. The Gap and the first part of Campaign are clear and easy to see, quickly the Campaign trail gets overgrown but manageable. There was flowing water where the Gap and Campaign trails meet but it disappears a little ways up the trail. Camped Saturday night at Brushy Springs, plenty of water flowing in the creek there, temps were about 5 degrees warmer than Reavis. Sunday was up the Fireline trail and back to Rogers Trough.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Brushy Spring Gallon per minute Gallon per minute
Flowing in the creek.


water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Reavis Creek at Fireline #118 Medium flow Medium flow

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Reavis Creek at Gap Trail #117 Medium flow Medium flow
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Mound Mountain PeakGlobe, AZ
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Hiking22.19 Miles 5,919 AEG
Hiking22.19 Miles   12 Hrs   46 Mns   2.10 mph
5,919 ft AEG   2 Hrs   11 Mns Break
 
1st trip
We both had MLK day off so we decided to do Mound Mountain Loop hike. Started at Rogers Trough TH and headed up the West Pinto trail around sunrise. Not too cold on the start and with the climb near the beginning we warmed up quickly. Over the divide we dropped into West Pinto Creek on really good trail almost to the Campaign trail junction. However, we decided to bushwhack 0.7 miles up to the Campaign trail instead of doing the extra mileage to the junction. This saved us only about 30 minutes but it was worth a shot by cutting off 3.5 miles. Once on the Campaign trail it was over another divide and into Campaign Creek. Campaign trail was a little brushy but not too bad. We followed it to the Fireline trail junction and was surprised to see many Ponderosa pines down in this area at 4500 feet.

From there we headed up the Fireline to the Mound Mountain turnoff which is well marked with cairns. There is a trail all the way to Circle Stone which was big as advertised. Checked it out and continued to Mound off trail the rest of the way. Previous write-ups said stay to the right which was spot on before the tough final 500 feet. Finally on top we enjoyed the awesome views, lunch, and a brew :) After taking it all in headed back to Fireline trail with Reavis next up.

Arrived in Reavis area as it was getting late afternoon. Would have been nice to check things out more but the sun was fading. We tanked up on water, grabbed a snack and headed up the valley. Great walk through Reavis valley on trail 109 over to Reavis Saddle. By the time we reached the saddle it was getting dark so had to do the last 3.5 miles by headlamp.

Long day but finally bagged Mound Mountain which has been on the list for awhile.
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water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Lower Campaign Spring Dripping Dripping
Very little drip and was pretty much a mud hole.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Whiskey Spring Dripping Dripping
Small standing pools.
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Hiking22.19 Miles 5,919 AEG
Hiking22.19 Miles   12 Hrs   46 Mns   2.10 mph
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1st trip
It was brisk starting out, but with an immediate 700 foot elevation climb on West Pinto, we warmed up quickly. The trail was in great shape, a few grabby cat claws but other than that, no complaints and we cruised along. The views were amazing and you had the ability to look around without watching your feet.

We had multiple discussions about attempting a .7 mile bushwhack up to the Campaign Trail instead of staying on trail for 3.5 extra miles. I figured I can do anything for .7 miles and I know Karl really wanted to try so we blazed our own trail. And, worst case scenario, it could take the same amount of time to do either, so there wouldn't be multiple discussions about how much time had been lost. (If we had stayed on trail, we probably would have broken 6000 feet)

The intersection of Campaign and Fireline was inviting. There was a fire ring and logs set up. With giant pine trees, it would have been a perfect break spot. Instead we kept going up up up until we got to the turn off for Circlestone and Mound. So then we could go up up up again. My heart sank a little when we got to Circlestone, and could see the summit of Mound. It looked pretty far. It wouldn't have taken much too get me to turn around thinking "close enough." But, Karl is no quiter, and I'm glad we kept going. It really wasn't much further and was worth a little more effort. Karl was pointing out landmarks and we could actually see the Fountain Hills Fountain!

Neither of us had been to Reavis, and both of us were impressed. We were fighting daylight by this time so we didn't dawdle too much. We topped off our water and snapped some pictures. The trail through here was even beyond McDowell quality! We probably could have pulled out the headlamps sooner, but we stubbornly wanted to get to Reavis Saddle first. I bet we missed some pretty good scenery the last 3 miles we were in the dark, but we enjoyed the stars and moved as quick as the tired legs would allow, since the temperature was dropping and we could see our breaths.
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Reavis Ranch via 109 SouthGlobe, AZ
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Really fun three days-- hiked in from the south on friday and set up camp in the orchard. On Saturday I solo'd the Reavis Gap / Campaign / Fireline Loop. Reavis Gap was the highlight of the loop-- awesome trail :) . Hiked out Sunday morning. It was awesome to see everyone and hang out. Reavis Ranch is always a good time. Thanks Hippy for organizing this one :D
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Campaign Trail #256Globe, AZ
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Hiking13.00 Miles 2,500 AEG
Hiking13.00 Miles   7 Hrs   30 Mns   1.86 mph
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I hike the campaign trail from West Pinto trail to Fireline trail. I started at the Miles trailhead and hiked a couple miles along the West Pinto trail until turning north onto the campaign trail. The West Pinto is is good condition over this section. Trail is well maintained and mostly easy to follow.

The Campaign Trail I would rate as varying between fair and poor condition. Throughout pretty much the entire hike on the Campaign Trail, there are various plants hanging over the trail here and there. This is not serious bushwhacking, just more of an annoying tug on your leg or sometimes arm at least every minute or so. There were a few short sections that I had to push through head height brush, but overall the bushwhacking was pretty minimal. The trail was quite hard to follow in sections, though. Most of the trail finding difficulties occur in the section between after coming down from the divide and the fireline trail. I had to backtrack a couple of times a short way when I realized I got off the trail. I tried marking the trail a bit better where I got off trail with cairns and debris on the false trail.

There were many nice vistas (ignoring the pinto mine in the distance) along the trail. This section of the superstitions feels very remote. Much of hike was along areas surrounded by trees, which made for a different experience as well. The intersection with the fireline trail was an especially nice area with large pines and the ground covered with pine needles.
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Went up Campaign Creek and then Fireline to the first saddle. Didn't have time to make it over to Circlestone. JD went up the ridge towards Mound to 1st summit (very heavy brush). Met a person taking a class at Reavis Mtn School and he told us they grow their own herbs ;) Saw 3 deer.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Brushy Spring Dripping Dripping
A few pools near the spring
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Hiking17.80 Miles 3,800 AEG
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Cats Claw Report Campaign Trail #256 near and dear, by no means a show stopper, pants preferred. Reavis Gap Trail #117 minimal at best, shorts fine. Fireline Trail #118 good as always.

2012 Reavis Apple Report A few more weeks to prime picking. Bumper crop, plenty for those that do not procrastinate.

Road Conditions high clearance is plenty, which was only necessary for the creek crossing. I do know from previous experiences 4wd is required when it storms.

Annual Reavis Summer Farewell A late summer (August to early September) hike to Reavis is something I look forward to each year. The eastern Superstitions are hot like most of Arizona in the summer. The elevation and distance from the Sonoran heat bubble puts the Reavis area on a desert/high-country weather teeter/totter. Watching the point forecast like a hawk typically reveals a break in the summer heat if only for a day. The game plan is to get in early and out by 1pm. That break came two weeks ago. Ecstatic for any opportunity, this year didn't turn out to be prime in planning but it was prime in results!

Reavis Gap Trail #117 I have a love/hate relationship with this trail. The mountains, path of travel, diversity and lack of use make it a winner every time. It's roller coaster grades are not for the weary. Without the trail the terrain would be treacherous.

Fireline Trail #118 My journeys on this one have always been enjoyable. The grades are a gift compared to the Gap Trail. Pines are near on occasion. The vegetation is enjoyable and never a hassle. Day hikers are probably tired and staring at their feet, a shame indeed. Albeit no show stopper, for myself it is the subtle euphoria I seek.

Energy Synopsis I chose to lug the heavy glass camera on this trip. Humidity in the canyons was thick. The temps were borderline hot. I didn't start well slept or pre-hydrated. My planning was poor, forgetting preferred energy boosters. The added weight, humidity, heat and tired body tried to hammer my joy but it was unsuccessful... I had a blast and look forward to next year.

Breaks are underrated. About five minutes every hour seems to work well. Perhaps for resting, more importantly for absorbing.

Thanks to all that have helped me learn up, get to and experience the mighty power of the eastern Superstition Mountains. The memories keep me churning and in check.
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Wildflowers Observation Substantial

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Reavis Creek Light flow Light flow
Gap Crossing surprisingly only stagnant pools, running slow and clean up near Fireline junction
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R Gap Fireline Circlestone Campaign Crk, AZ 
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Hiking19.80 Miles 4,450 AEG
Hiking19.80 Miles   11 Hrs   12 Mns   2.22 mph
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1st trip
Off to a new area in the Supes for me.
We started at the Campaign Trail head for the Reavis Gap #117 trail. This was right next to the entrance for the Reevis Mountain School Sanctuary http://reevismountain.org/

It was all we could do to get JJ to hike instead of spend the day at the School. He was talking about bailing, based on reports/horror stories of Catsclaw on the Campaign Trail.

The area prior to getting to the Gap trail is a lush playground littered with springs and running water. We started the Climb up the Reavis Gap trail. Views abound! We had scattered Fraley's to make it more visually appealing all the way around. We would have preferred a thicker cloud cover to cut down on some of the heat for the day. I sweat out 8 quarts on the day and only took in 6.

Dropping into the Reavis area we started seeing signs of Bear. A huge print on the trail, a pile of 2 dozen regurgitated apples on the trail and increasing quantities of fresh scat.
Once we got down to the Orchards, you can see where the forest creatures have been having a feeding frenzy. It'll be quite the Harvest this year.

We took lunch and filtered out of Reavis Creek close to the Fireline Trail.
I'd never been to Circlestone before, so JJ and me hit that up while Joe relaxed.
A cool area.

Now it was time to start making our drop back to the Trailhead. Circlestone, the highest point on this hike is at 6,016' and the TH was at 3,250' We took a short break where the Fireline Trail hit the Campaign Creek in a stand of pines.


The 4.5 mile trek along Campaign Creek to the intersection with the Reavis Gap Trail seemed to drag on forever. The forests of Catsclaw never materialized. The trail did get narrow with sharp poking stuff, but with long pants, easily navigated.

Another fun adventure into the Supes.
Thanks JJ for Driving out there!

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Water flowing into Campaign Creek

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Feb 11 2012
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Hiking21.87 Miles 5,892 AEG
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Mike & I did Circlestone from the Mile TH.
We saw a Mountain Lion running down the road as we got the trailhead! :o It galloped about a quarter mile down the road before heading into the trees.

It was pretty cold at the TH. There was a big sized pool of water that was iced over at the TH.
There was some water flowing in the Pinto creek. We started to warm up as we started the climb up Pinto peak on the Champaign trail.
We took a short break near the Pinto Peak and another day hiker came by from the north. He wound up being one of Mike's customers.

The Champaign trail (between Pinto Peak and the Fireline) is being swallowed up by nature. The overgrowth is covering the trail up almost completely in some sections. This increased the route finding and slowed us down.

We had lunch at Circlestone. As we ate a helicopter came in pretty low and circled us. After we ate, we explored around a bit before heading back.

On the way back, a skunk came on the trail with his tail up! :scared: We took another break.

We saw 3 people camping at the Cuff Button/West Pint intersection.
FR 287A was in very good shape compared to the last time I was on it. It looked like there was some mining activity going on by the Haunted Canyon TH. There were flood lights in that area as we left.
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Oct 15 2011
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Mound Mountain PeakGlobe, AZ
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joebartels
Hiking19.00 Miles 5,100 AEG
Hiking19.00 Miles   13 Hrs   35 Mns   1.64 mph
5,100 ft AEG   2 Hrs    Break14 LBS Pack
 
1st trip
There have been so many ridiculous hikes over the years I'm starting to lose count. The hike started off as "Reavis Falls Overlook via Mound Mtn". We started off with John's stomach disapproving of my driving skills... I felt bad for him yet knew it would pass after a while too. A tenth of a mile off trail Dave looked like he was done. It was pretty apparent the overlook segment was going to get bumped. However we did forge onward!

Long story short... under two miles of off-trail pretty much ruled the majority of our day. It wasn't catclaw or live oak it was just the thickest obstacle course imaginable. We took turns fighting the beast. Even took a break in the middle of nowhere surrounded by waves of towering brush whispering "you idiots never learn". John declared us sure winners in the game of hide and go seek. Unfortunately we were all "it" and up to our necks in "it" too.

Sausage shin syndrome, bla bla bla, etc etc. Whoop t friggen dew, been there done that, yadda yadda yadda. That would have been just a nice great horrible bushwhack. Let's throw in "everybody runs out of water". Holy schmolly! Me being the bright planner suggested 3 quarts to start. Luckily nobody listned... Dave brought 6 and shared a quart with John. John brought a gallon and I brought 4.5 quarts mostly frozen. For the three hottest hours of the day I sipped my last 2/3rds of a quart. While we finally conquered Mound Mtn it was difficult to think of anything but water. Luckily unbeknownst to myself one of the best trails in the eastern Superstitions is a TRAIL to Circlestone (most of the way to Mound Mountain). Holy cow! how is it that a maintained trail like 212 near a trailhead is washed out and overgrown to near extinction in sections. Yet out in the middle of nowhere is a foot wide trail with switchbacks and such?

Reavis Creek finally came. We danced, frolicked in glee, held hands and sang Kumbaya. An easy 6.5mi back to the trailhead ended a half hour after sundown. Albeit trying at times I had a great time. I appreciate John and Dave for their friendship in this unforgettable journey we shared.

There were two fields of yellow wildflowers that would qualify for extreme. Several isolated accounts and light in many areas so I'll go with "moderate" overall.

Foliage was mainly accredited to impressive poison ivy stands, some Virginia Creeper and one nice wall of turning Canyon Grape leaves.

The positive report: two items made my day better than previous extended journeys. I finally brought some eye drops to fight off the spooky blood shot tiredness. After two recent bouts with fox tails I finally bought some trail runner gaiters. Full length gaiters are just hot and miserable so I hesitated for years. These turned out to be perfect. The only part of my body not pummeled to oblivion was my feet. Not a single pebble nor prickly anything the entire day. They never felt hot or irritating, just comfy and reassuring the entire trip!

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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Rogers Spring Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute
Running very well. Not sure if it's the actual spring or from the HEAT dig years ago?

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Father Dave observed this one as stagnant. In a pinch perhaps but trusty Reavis Creek is only a half mile down the hill.
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Mound Mountain PeakGlobe, AZ
Globe, AZ
Hiking avatar Oct 15 2011
johnlp
Hiking19.00 Miles 5,100 AEG
Hiking19.00 Miles   13 Hrs   37 Mns   1.64 mph
5,100 ft AEG   2 Hrs    Break
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1st trip
We hit the West Pinto trail from Rogers Trough trailhead at 0520. Some recent trail maintenance has the trail in pretty decent shape. Thanks to those who participated in this giant task. Once we left the trail, the real fun began. The brush kept getting thicker and thicker to a point where we were doing less than 1/4 mile per hour. There were stretches when our feet never touched the ground. Not because of elation, because the brush was so thick we had to walk on top of the twisted mass of branches. Taking the lead was a sure way to burn a lot of calories. Our 2.5 mile off trail adventure to Mound Mountain took us 5.5 hours. I tore holes in my pants, socks, and shirt! The hike down off Mound towards Reavis turned out to be much nicer, and before too long we were at the creek filtering water. We had pretty much been out of water for the past couple hours. I ran out of water first. Dave was kind enough to give me most of a big gatorade, and Joe, well he gave me his backwash. We decided not to go into Reavis Ranch or the falls as it was getting late in the day. We made it out just before 7 PM. Unforgettable journey! Thanks Joe for setting this up and driving. Thanks Dave for the excellent company and acts of kindness. Much appreciated.
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Oct 15 2011
azdesertfather
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 Tucson, AZ
Mound Mountain PeakGlobe, AZ
Globe, AZ
Hiking avatar Oct 15 2011
azdesertfather
Hiking18.97 Miles 5,341 AEG
Hiking18.97 Miles   13 Hrs   30 Mns   1.65 mph
5,341 ft AEG   2 Hrs    Break
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1st trip
Early start, zipping up from Tucson to Gold Canyon to meet the crew. Discovered it's actually quicker for people from Oro Valley to get to Peralta or Rogers than it is for those in the West Valley or North Valley in Phoenix! It's weird, I live at the base of the Catalinas, can see Lemmon from my place, but it takes longer to drive to the top Lemmon than it does to drive 80+ miles to this part of the Supes. :-s

We started out with headlamps for an hour or so as we went east on Pinto. The trail started out good, but once we crossed Pinto Creek the trail started getting choked out in places by overgrown brush. About 3 hours in we left the Pinto and started our bushwhack toward Mound Mountain.

I'm glad I didn't know what I was getting myself into! Y-I-K-E-S. For much of this time the manazanita, holly and oak were so densely packed that we were having to step from one clump of bent-over branches to another clump, and our feet weren't even touching the ground for many of these stretches. Thankfully though the catclaw and locus were only in a few areas. It was only a couple of miles or so off-trail out of 19, but it took 40% of our hiking time. :lol:

In retrospect, it was a little cool to look at terrain like that, look at a GPS, and try to figure out how to navigate the desert brush jungle. That+the bushwhack+the elevation+the lack of water=quite an accomplishment, at least that's how we felt! We celebrated once we made it to the top of Mound and signed the register, knowing the trail and the elevation would be better now but we were still miles away from water.

I checked for water for us at Whiskey Spring, but it was stagnant and by that point were were less than a mile to Reavis Creek so we decided to just move forward. We started filtering and MAN, that water came out clear and GOOD!

That water gave us a second wind, and the final six and a half miles back to Rogers TH was minimal elevation and maximum speed. Especially from Reavis Saddle...once we started descending and kept up a 3mph+ pace all the way down. Even when we hit the bottom and started heading up the final 400ft to the trailhead we kept close to that pace; darkness fell at the bottom and we did the final push up with headlamps again.

For a couple of years I've wanted to do Mound Mountain and Circlestone. The other guys wanted to as well. We didn't make Circlestone due to our water need, but the views from atop Mound Mountain were incredible. I remember seeing the Pinals and the Anchas in the east, and we could even see Camelback and the Estrellas in the west. We could see Four Peaks to the north and could see Picacho Peak, Mt. Lemmon and Pusch Ridge to the south.

Thanks Joe for having John and I join you on this adventure! Thanks for driving into Rogers as well. John, great meeting you!

Lastly, thanks to gpsjoe. As I posted this triplog I noticed this is one of the 16 trip descriptions he wrote for us, and what we did today off trail hacking our own way up Mound Mountain with our GPSes would have made him proud. :A1:
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Sep 14 2011
CannondaleKid
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 Joined May 04 2004
 Mesa, AZ
Campaign Trail to Pinto DivideGlobe, AZ
Globe, AZ
Hiking avatar Sep 14 2011
CannondaleKid
Hiking9.00 Miles 1,438 AEG
Hiking9.00 Miles   6 Hrs   2 Mns   1.88 mph
1,438 ft AEG   1 Hour   15 Mns Break25 LBS Pack
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1st trip
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Neither of us had ever been out to this part of the Superstitions and it didn't look like the temps would be unbearable here so we thought we'd try it. Besides, Tracey was interested in taking a gander at the Reevis (yes, they spell it that way) Mountain School, which is just off the trail.

Although we left home early, being a weekday road passing through road construction in two places on the 60 wasn't that appealing so we took the long and winding road up Apache Trail to Roosevelt. Not one vehicle was going the same direction as we were so it went pretty smooth. Shortly before the dam coming around a corner in a pretty tight area we met a convoy of three large pickups and a motor home, all four pulling large boats on trailers and all four in the middle of the road. Good thing we were in the Samurai as there was no time to brake and barely enough time to give the wheel a twitch to the right and slip between the rock wall on one side and each vehicle. Based on the signal the first driver gave I didn't expect the fourth vehicle, and sure didn't expect it to be a motor home so that one was a close one. But no harm no foul and we continued on without further drama.

On this day FR 449/449A out to the trail head was in great shape so I didn't bother engaging 4WD. In fact a stock height 2WD car could have made it, although add a bit of rain and that would be out of the question. At the trail head there was no sign anybody had been there for a while so we expected not to see another soul in the hike, which turned out to be true. (Although we did hear a couple quiet voices when passing above the Reevis Mountain School on our late afternoon return.)

The hike started out with a climb to get the blood flowing but with relatively mild temps it wasn't that big a deal. If you plan on following the description you will note that a number of the features did not appear at the stated mileage, being anywhere from .2 to 1.5 miles later than expected. However as advertised, we did encounter numerous spots of thick poison ivy. We noticed it in time on the way out but a few times on the return I found myself practically wading through the ivy with bare feet in Teva's before realizing it. I don't know if I have an immunity or not but no issues for me. (Nor did I have issues on the Callaway Trail when Tracey did get hit with it... this time she was wearing her Pippi Longstocking socks just for that reason)

The trail has seen so little use and/or maintenance that we spent more than an hour on the hike out than on the return trip, all due the need to clip our way through cat's claw or the like. At one point Tracey wondered if we should give it up and maybe go back far enough and hike the Reavis Gap trail instead, but we soldiered on. Also, due to the extra time it took, we did not continue to the Pinto Divide. While we saw plenty of huge piles of bear scat, they seemed to be at least 3-4 days old so we didn't give it a second thought to meeting one. We were a bit surprised by the lack of any wildlife until we were within .5 mile of the car on the way back when we saw two deer but they were gone so fast there wasn't time for a photo.

For the return trip it was late enough that there wouldn't be construction hold-ups so we took the route back through Globe and back home on the 60. It saved just under 30 minutes as compared to the trip up Apache Trail, although if I was driving solo on the trail it would have been closer to 10-15 minutes. But not wanting Tracey to get car-sick I took it a more leisurely pace.
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 Phoenix, AZ
Tule Canyon Trail #122Globe, AZ
Globe, AZ
Backpack avatar Mar 13 2011
nonot
Backpack32.60 Miles 6,500 AEG
Backpack32.60 Miles3 Days         
6,500 ft AEG
 
1st trip
Got my butt kicked on this trip. Had problems with leg cramps, blisters, and lack of endurance. I guess that's what happens when you can't go hiking for over 40 days. At least that blasted counter won't be goading me on any more.

Water reports:
Tule Canyon: Dry
North Fork Pine Creek (Two-Bar): Dry
South Fork Pine Creek (Reavis Gap): Flowing nicely
Reavis Creek: Flowing nicely
Upper South Fork Pine Creek (Fireline): Dry
Campaign Creek @ intersection of Fireline/Campaign Trail: Dry
Campaign Creek @ 0.25 miles north from Fireline/Campaign Trail intersection to Campaign TH: Flowing nicely

Trail conditions:
Tule: very good
Two-Bar: Horrible, some horse yuppies took a large group of people on horseback when the ground was saturated, the entire trail, where it is not scree, is postholed by horse hooves. Footing is nearly impossible, the bed of the trail is really destroyed :(
Gap Trail: Horse-hoof postholing continues...grrrr!
Fireline: OK to good
Campaign Creek: OK - starts off good at fireline intersection, gets worse as you go towards TH, some catclaw overgrowth on trail.

Rd conditions:
449 to Tule TH: very good
449A to Campaign TH: Good, there is sand, but I observed a sedan at the TH, I wouldn't recommend it since you go through large sandy sections, easy to get stuck it would seem.
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Hmmm, which one is brushy spring...this log will be for the spring that is about 0.25 miles north along the campaign trail from the intersection of the gap trail and the campaign trail. It was flowing very nicely.

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There was water there seeping out of the ground, but it was muddy. It wouldn't be a good source, but would keep you alive.
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 Phoenix, AZ
Reavis Gap, Fireline & Campaign Creek LoopGlobe, AZ
Globe, AZ
Hiking avatar Sep 06 2009
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Hiking17.10 Miles 3,393 AEG
Hiking17.10 Miles   8 Hrs   50 Mns   1.94 mph
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Extremely tired from the previous days adventure and with bloody raw feet I took a "nap" to head to Reavis. I've wanted to do this loop for about ten years so I rode on adrenalin. My feet actually felt fine as I dumped the Chacos! Also thanks to JPs wool socks gift ;)

Somehow I lost a good quart of water on the ride in. C'est la vie, the show must go on. Not much has changed since I was here ten years ago in 1999... except catclaw is starting to take over the Gap Trail!

Onwards to Reavis. The apples are just starting to turn. Found a couple ripe ones and ate a tasty one. The majority appear to have about ~three weeks to prime. Only saw about 4 or 5 trees with actual apples, luckily those are LOADED! Wildflowers have taken over Reavis basin, truly a site to see right now.

Onto my first visit on the Fireline and Campaign Trail (further up). Apparently trails that are cut by bulldozer fair much better than any other trail in eastern Superstitions. There's virtually no nagging bushwhacking on the Fireline. I was expecting much more torture on the return in rollercoaster ascents but was pleasantly surprised with an eased incline, more tree cover than expected and beautiful views. The last two miles of the Campaign Trail before the Gap junction are by far the worst catclaw on this route.

Distance includes about a quarter mile off-trail. Great hike with Dave! I'll definitely do this one over and over again. (w/ a sharp machete of course) With a 50% chance of rain we got the lucky 50% dry part throughout the hike.

Although rated 4x4, 2xForce worked today ;)
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 Mesa, AZ
Mound Mountain PeakGlobe, AZ
Globe, AZ
Hiking avatar Mar 08 2009
Tortoise_Hiker
Hiking18.00 Miles 5,130 AEG
Hiking18.00 Miles   9 Hrs      2.00 mph
5,130 ft AEG
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1st trip
What a workout! It was nice to finally get to Reavis Ranch and tackle Circlestone and Mound Mountain on the same trip. Nice area and lots of water.We saw a Whitetail Deer a few rabbits and a skunk. Thanks for dragging me out(I think) to Wally and Alex. I hurt here there and everywhere. :)
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