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Oct 11 2013
tibber
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63 female
 Joined Feb 26 2004
 Phoenix, AZ
Gateway Loop Trail - MSPPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Oct 11 2013
tibber
Hiking5.35 Miles 913 AEG
Hiking5.35 Miles   2 Hrs      2.68 mph
913 ft AEG
 
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a nice hike. I was trying to see why I couldn't get Kemo Sabe to work consistently. Anytime I would put the Jellybean into my fanny pack, it would quit working. I discovered I needed to carry my phone or put it in my shirt pocket for it to work. Apparently it loses signal or whatever when I put it in my fanny pack. So I listened to Phil Collins greatest hits between talk radio as I winded my way along the trail.

It was a nice afternoon as I started after 3. I ran into 5 lizards (one per mile it seemed) and then I ran into Kathy and Karl :) on the back side of the Loop. They had a long journey ahead of them but they hike pretty fast so it would probably only be a few hours for them though they would be coming back on part of it in the dark for sure.

There weren't as many people out as I thot. I saw no one on the Levee or Paradise part of the trail at all. The section coming down from the Saddle is longer than I recall. I like the MapMyFitness app as it comes on at every mile to let you know how your are doing.
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For me, sometimes it's just as much about the journey as the destination.
Oh, and once in awhile, don't forget to look back at the trail you've traveled.
Oct 04 2013
Crzy4AZ
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46 female
 Joined Apr 02 2007
 Scottsdale, AZ
Gateway Loop Trail - MSPPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Oct 04 2013
Crzy4AZ
Hiking5.87 Miles 976 AEG
Hiking5.87 Miles   1 Hour   32 Mns   4.05 mph
976 ft AEG      5 Mns Break
 
Partners none no partners
Dropped kids off school - squeezed in a hike from parking lot 104th over Gateway Saddle to intersection with Windgate then back to start again. Little sunny but not too hot.
Not super crowded yet.
Partially jogged last bit. Now time for pick up kids, dentist appt for them, and playdate with friends later. But I got in my workout and a little hike!!
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Jul 29 2013
Charger55
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39 male
 Joined Oct 19 2010
 Mesa, AZ
Paradise Trail - MSPPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Jul 29 2013
Charger55
Hiking6.50 Miles 360 AEG
Hiking6.50 Miles   2 Hrs   30 Mns   2.60 mph
360 ft AEG
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1st trip
After work hike. I knew these spur trails in the McDowell foothills wouldn't be too exciting so I brought along my lizard net to work on my gummo skills. Most of the lizards were too fast for me, but toward the end of the hike I came across one that allowed me to get really close. Swoosh! Got 'em! Of course, when I looked down into the net I saw two objects squirming around; the lizard and his tail. I know lizards can regrow their tails, but I still felt bad. What if he needs that tail to escape a real predator? Maybe I don't have the heart for lizardnapping...
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Jun 21 2013
slowandsteady
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45 female
 Joined Jan 05 2012
 Phoenix,AZ
Thompson Peak via Bell Pass, AZ 
Thompson Peak via Bell Pass, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jun 21 2013
slowandsteady
Hiking12.60 Miles 3,102 AEG
Hiking12.60 Miles   5 Hrs   40 Mns   2.44 mph
3,102 ft AEG      30 Mns Break
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My goals were to enjoy the Super Moon and to get 3000 feet of elevation. I started on Friday night at 6pm. I had goals but was really lacking the motivation.

I started at the 104th St/Bell Rd Trailhead. I went to the Levee Trail and then about .5 miles up the Levee Trail, you come to a little sign that just says "Trail", I took this little spur down to the left and then you take your first right, and basically then hike to Paradise Trail on a parallel trail to the Levee Trail.

I took Paradise Trail to Gateway Loop Trail, which you are only on for .2 miles. I saw the only other hiker for the night on this tiny section. I then turned off on Bell Pass Trail. I took Bell Pass Trail to Prospector and then headed down Prospector.

About 3/4 of the way down Prospector, there is a spur trail off to the right that is cairned and takes you to Thompson Peak Rd. It probably cuts off about 1/2 a mile. I then headed up Thompson Peak. I got up the first section, and then really dragged on the dirt road part. When I got to the second up, and the radiation sign, I took a long break. I decided I was done and headed back the way I came. I took both spur trails on the way back.

I never used my headlamp and the Super Moon really lit things up. It was a beautiful night, even if I did take some short cuts.
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Jun 14 2013
slowandsteady
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45 female
 Joined Jan 05 2012
 Phoenix,AZ
McDowell Lazy Loop, AZ 
McDowell Lazy Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jun 14 2013
slowandsteady
Hiking10.90 Miles 2,219 AEG
Hiking10.90 Miles   4 Hrs   15 Mns   2.67 mph
2,219 ft AEG      10 Mns Break
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1st trip
I parked at 104th/Bell and did the loop clockwise, avoiding going UP Bell Pass, I wasn't feeling the hill tonight.

Levee Trail to Paradise to Gateway Loop and up to Gateway Saddle.
Gateway Saddle down to Windgate Trail over to Bell Pass Trail and back to Paradise Trail to Levee Trail.
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May 08 2013
tibber
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63 female
 Joined Feb 26 2004
 Phoenix, AZ
Levee Trail - MSPPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar May 08 2013
tibber
Hiking2.80 Miles 238 AEG
Hiking2.80 Miles   1 Hour      2.80 mph
238 ft AEG
 
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1st trip
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Estimate on mileage via route manager: 104th to Levee, crossover at Gateway, hung a right up to Paradise, hung a left to Gateway (saw 2 instead of the normal 3 rabbits), Gateway to crossover to 104th.

Took my dumb foot for a hiking test, it passed. I HATE GNATS :yuck: : HATE, HATE, HATE!
so cut my hike short.

Question, do the same gnats follow you the entire way or do they have a conga line where one group passes you on to another????

Did I mention I HATE GNATS!
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Oh, and once in awhile, don't forget to look back at the trail you've traveled.
Apr 19 2013
slowandsteady
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45 female
 Joined Jan 05 2012
 Phoenix,AZ
Levee Bell Pass Windgate Loop, AZ 
Levee Bell Pass Windgate Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Apr 19 2013
slowandsteady
Hiking10.80 Miles 2,410 AEG
Hiking10.80 Miles   3 Hrs   50 Mns   2.82 mph
2,410 ft AEG
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1st trip
We started at the 104th St/Bell Trailhead.

Levee Trail to Paradise
Paradise to Bell Pass
Bell Pass to Windgate
Windgate to Toms Thumb Trail
Toms Thumb Trail to the Gateway Loop Trail
Gateway Loop Trail to Paradise
Paradise to Levee
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Apr 18 2013
BiFrost
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49 male
 Joined Nov 20 2012
 Phoenix, AZ
Levee Bell Pass Windgate Loop, AZ 
Levee Bell Pass Windgate Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Apr 18 2013
BiFrost
Hiking10.80 Miles 2,410 AEG
Hiking10.80 Miles   3 Hrs   45 Mns   3.01 mph
2,410 ft AEG      10 Mns Break
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1st trip
We got a late start but were committed to doing the loop anyway. However, part way up to Bell Pass we ran into Tortoise Hiker, BobP and flat Denny :lol: Great to see you guys but I'm kicking myself for not grabbing my camera for a pic of flat Denny and the crew :doh: Regardless it was great to see some friendly HAZ faces on the trail :)

http://hikearizona.com/photo.php?ZIP=332241

After the photo session and some good conversation we continued on the loop and of course it started to get dark. No big deal it was a nice night for a walk. After getting back to the car at 104th St we headed over to Juan Jaime's for some taco's and beer to finish off the day right.:D
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Wildflowers Observation Isolated
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Mar 24 2013
Crzy4AZ
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46 female
 Joined Apr 02 2007
 Scottsdale, AZ
104th St to Tom's Thumb out & back, AZ 
104th St to Tom's Thumb out & back, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Mar 24 2013
Crzy4AZ
Hiking13.22 Miles 4,200 AEG
Hiking13.22 Miles   5 Hrs   6 Mns   2.59 mph
4,200 ft AEG
 
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1st trip
Wanted to see wildflowers in McDowells and boy did we ever! :GB: Got babysitter for kids. Took the last parking spot at 104th St lot. Saw busted glass from either a break in or accident and new signs saying don't leave anything visible in your car.

Creosote and brittle bush explosive along Levee trail. Poppies, lupine, and scorpion weed all along Bell Pass trail. Surprisingly abundant pink baja fairy duster on back side of Bell Pass and Windmill. East End decent amount of poppies, chuparosa, and lupine (although hard to see anything through the pain fog of that climb). Tom's Thumb had nice stretches of poppies. Overall just about anywhere you look there was something.

This out/back route is the way to go to avoid people and get an interval training work out. East End will kick your a@@ front ways and backwards. It's a killer up and down on your knees (40 year old knees at least ;) ).
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Wildflowers Observation Substantial
Lower elevations: creosote, brittle bush
Higher elevations: chuparosa, baja pink fairy duster
Both: poppies, lupine, scorpion weed
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Mar 21 2013
Dave1
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43 male
 Joined Jan 25 2009
 Phoenix, AZ
Windgate Bell LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Mar 21 2013
Dave1
Hiking9.94 Miles 2,069 AEG
Hiking9.94 Miles   1 Hour   51 Mns   5.37 mph
2,069 ft AEG
 
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41:20 to Bell pass
1:05:19 to Windgate

Saw 64 poorwills, 1 tarantula and 1 frog on the trail.
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Feb 17 2013
slowandsteady
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 Routes 67
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45 female
 Joined Jan 05 2012
 Phoenix,AZ
Bell Pass - Bell / 104th THPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 17 2013
slowandsteady
Hiking17.27 Miles 4,576 AEG
Hiking17.27 Miles   7 Hrs   10 Mns   2.59 mph
4,576 ft AEG      30 Mns Break
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We timed it right and got a parking spot at 104th/Bell.

Levee Trail to Paradise

Paradise to Bell Pass

Bell Pass to Prospector

Prospector to Thompson Peak Rd

Up and down to Thompson Peak and down to Dixie Mine Trail

Dixie Mine to Coachwhip

Coachwhip to Windmill

Windmill to Bell Pass Trail

Bell Pass trail to Paradise Trail to Levee Trail to the car
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Feb 17 2013
BiFrost
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49 male
 Joined Nov 20 2012
 Phoenix, AZ
Bell Pass - Bell / 104th THPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 17 2013
BiFrost
Hiking17.27 Miles 4,576 AEG
Hiking17.27 Miles   7 Hrs   10 Mns   2.59 mph
4,576 ft AEG      30 Mns Break
 
1st trip
We started from 104th St TH and headed up the Bell Pass trail. It was great to see how green everything was all over the McDowells. Once over Bell Pass we headed down the Prospector trail to the road and then up Thompson Peak. On the ridgeline towards the top of Thompson Peak we encountered a bees nest on the ground right along the road.

After negotiating the bees and lunch on Thompson Peak we headed back down. We decided to loop around on Dixie Mine Trail over to the Coachwhip Trail and then back past the Windmill trail junction. From here it was back up the Windmill trail to Bell Pass and back out to 104th.
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Feb 14 2013
Crzy4AZ
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46 female
 Joined Apr 02 2007
 Scottsdale, AZ
Tom's Thumb Loop off Windgate Pass TrailPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 14 2013
Crzy4AZ
Hiking13.31 Miles 3,870 AEG
Hiking13.31 Miles   5 Hrs   55 Mns   2.47 mph
3,870 ft AEG      32 Mns Break
 
1st trip
Today was a "date hike" day on Valentine's Day with hubby. Kids in preschool - we dropped them off then raced to get started knowing we had to pick up around 3pm for ballet. Luckily we started at the 104th parking lot not even a half a mile from the house.

We went COUNTER clockwise for our first time on this loop that I have been dying to do since having a newborn when AlHikesAZ first wrote this up. I remember thinking that once the new Mommy "fog" lifted that I would be out there with my light-weight, easy infant to hike this new loop on my maternity leave. Ha!! Light-weight, yes - easy, no! We even tried to do this loop last year on one of our spring date hike days, but George got sick and we ended up doing the smallest possible loop in the McDowells on Levee and Paradise. Was disappointing but par-for-the-course in our parenting lives.

So to finally complete this frickin' loop was quite a joy! To be in good enough shape to do it in pretty darn good time for a middle aged Mom - and going counter clockwise and back over Gateway Saddle (instead of the lower part of Gateway Loop) - was just amazing. Happy Freakin' Valentine's Day to ME! I love you, McDowells!! :budrose: :budrose: (and the hubby too :D ) I love this loop - love living close to these mountains - love the weather today - love hardly seeing any people on most of the hike - love that we got in a double-digit hike without any kid disaster phone call - love The Thumb and the incredible views up there.

Stay away from Gateway loop near the main trailhead - and you avoid a whole lot of human contact. Hardly anyone is on Levee/crossover - and way more people go out and back along Gateway then cross the saddle.

So the last stretch of Levee is flat but bumpy and my quads have a quiver in them - and we've got to get home in time to clean up before ballet. Quick tub soak combined with ibuprofen and diet Coke ... now ready to shuttle kids to activities. Old life colliding with new life. It's all good. Especially on a day with 13.3 miles in it :GB:
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Thompson Peak Tom's Thumb
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Feb 07 2013
BobP
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57 male
 Joined Feb 26 2008
 Scottsdale, AZ
Thompson Peak from Dixie Mine THPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 07 2013
BobP
Hiking7.90 Miles 3,584 AEG
Hiking7.90 Miles
3,584 ft AEG
 
Fun afternoon in the McD's. I took the direct route up Thompson hitting 2 peaks and 3 subpeaks on the way. Went up by the stock scam mine and saw a date in concrete of July 30, 1917. The scam was discovered in the 1920's...I think it started in the late 1890's. Saw another mine/dig on one of the sub peaks. Lots of :pk: on every saddle some had scratch marks next to it and some was covered where the scratch marks were. It was good to get this done heading up. I've taken the route down a few times.
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Feb 05 2013
Crzy4AZ
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46 female
 Joined Apr 02 2007
 Scottsdale, AZ
Bell Pass - Bell / 104th THPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 05 2013
Crzy4AZ
Hiking6.70 Miles 1,520 AEG
Hiking6.70 Miles   2 Hrs   3 Mns   3.27 mph
1,520 ft AEG
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Hiked all by myself for the first time in a while. :y: :y: (last solo hike was April 7, 2010 !!!!) :o 104th :next: Levee :next: Crossover :next: Gateway :next: Bell Pass and back.

Finished work early - no meetings - no charts - no to do list. Kids in preschool.

Saw few people on the trail but not many. Lost wifi for Pandora a little bit before the pass - surprising with all those cell towers so close by!

I bet wildflowers are going to be great this year - it's so green already and we've gotten decent rain. Just hope it doesn't get hot too soon.
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Feb 05 2013
FLYING_FLIVER
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 Joined Jan 28 2010
 Fountain Hills,
Drinkwater Peak - MSPPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 05 2013
FLYING_FLIVER
Hiking8.68 Miles 2,764 AEG
Hiking8.68 Miles   9 Hrs   13 Mns   1.91 mph
2,764 ft AEG   4 Hrs   40 Mns Break18 LBS Pack
 
As Jack Nicholson said, in the movie "The Shining" ........
I also said to Drinkwater Peak, when I finally got up there ............ "I'm Baaaack !!!!"

If you couldn't care less about benchmarks on mountain tops, do not refer to my previous triplog on Drinkwater Pk. Boredom and glazed-over eyes will set in immediately.
Here's the link ----- http://hikearizona.com/photoset.php?ID=23604

One quote from that triplog however is
"I vow to come back and look one more time, after I do a bit more research."

Well, I did more research and I did come back. And - I did have success. :) :)
(WOW - I sound quite dramatic - after all it was just a hike. ;) )

I first searched for the missing (or not found) reference mark #2 for McDOWELL RESET Triangulation Benchmark. After receiving guidance from a more experienced benchmark hunter, and using the datasheet info, plus some logic, I successfully found exactly where Reference Mark #2 was installed by the surveyors. The actual disk is gone, but after moving some rocks and debris, I found the "bore-hole" that the surveyors drilled to place the disk, plus that bore-hole area had remnants of the cement they used to secure the disk. Good for me. That mystery is solved.

Once I got done taking about 10 photos of that tiny bore hole, using all different camera settings, I moved on to find where the actual survey benchmark disk was installed back in 1924. (In 1935, surveyors replaced the 1924 "pried-out" disk with a new one,... ergo the use of RESET)
It should be easier to locate, now that I know where both reference marks were placed, and it was easier.

After some measuring, and moving some rocks that were clandestinely hiding the actual boulder outcrop that the surveyors used for mounting, I dug a bit, brushed sand away etc, and voila - another bore hole was in sight. Obviously, that triangulation benchmark disk is also gone.
The vandals that stole the two disks must have cracked that boulder outcrop into sections to get the disk out. Gee - I hope they're proud of themselves.

Anyway, after even more photos of this bore-hole and the surrounding area, I said good-bye to Drinkwater Pk and the two bore-holes, I hiked back to McDowell Pk and said good-bye to the sole inhabitant (the solar-paneled antennae), and left the area very satisfied.
Mission accomplished.

Jack Nicholson would be proud!
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Dec 16 2012
JuanJaimeiii
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52 male
 Joined Jan 30 2011
 Chandler, AZ
McDowell Super Hike, AZ 
McDowell Super Hike, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Dec 16 2012
JuanJaimeiii
Hiking18.50 Miles 5,435 AEG
Hiking18.50 Miles   6 Hrs   14 Mns   3.14 mph
5,435 ft AEG      20 Mns Break
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1st trip
Amy hit me up last night to go on a hike today. I am feeling a little under the weather so I wasn't sure if I would go or not. I told her to "put me down as a maybe". When I woke I looked outside and it was cool but nice. What the heck, I am not the type to lay around in bed all day even when not at 100%.

We met up at 10:00 at the 104th Street and Bell Trailhead. Tugger came along for the fun as well. He is a trooper and had no problem with this one at all.

It was a great hike but got a bit chilly for my liking a couple times. Mostly when we would stop or when we were in shady spots. I will do this one again for sure.

Thanks for the invite Amy!
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Dec 16 2012
Tugger
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 Joined Feb 28 2011
 Phoenix, AZ
McDowell Super Hike, AZ 
McDowell Super Hike, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Dec 16 2012
Tugger
Hiking18.50 Miles 5,435 AEG
Hiking18.50 Miles   6 Hrs   14 Mns   3.14 mph
5,435 ft AEG      20 Mns Break
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Yippee Mom took me out for a fun hike today! It was really cool too because John came along! He is my favorite to hike with besides mom. Mom's boyfriend is nice but kinda slow on the trails. He is a climber which is fun but it scares me when I look down.

We went all the way up to the top of some mountain with Antennas. On the way down I met a new friend, he was a German Sheppard. Towards the end of the hike I got licked by a Great Dane and it about knocked me over.

I didn't really want to leave but mom made me get in the Jeep.
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Nov 18 2012
Crzy4AZ
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46 female
 Joined Apr 02 2007
 Scottsdale, AZ
Levee Trail - MSPPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Nov 18 2012
Crzy4AZ
Hiking1.75 Miles 238 AEG
Hiking1.75 Miles      58 Mns   1.81 mph
238 ft AEG24 LBS Pack
 
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This is my favorite kid mini-hike in the McDowells. We drive 0.4 miles from our house to the 104th Street parking lot (don't want to burn out or hit our peak with toddlers before we even touch the trail!!) :lol: Then we take 104th St to Levee Trail then hobble along on that miserable freakin' trail to Crossover - then we go left to the Brown's Ranch Ruins (instead of most people would go right at the fork to get up to Gateway trail.

Caroline can hike this whole thing by herself and then we "picnic" at the play house ranch ruins. We pretend there's a kitchen and we have a snack and then play a little. George rides on my back as usual. He's not ready for independent hiking.... yet!

There was a cactus incident - Caroline got two spurs in her hand and there was a brief moment of screeching and screaming more out of panic than actual pain. Then a few tears and an attempt to get me to carry her back to the parking lot. It's possible for me to carry two kids but only from burning flames - not for a cactus meltdown! So we said a prayer for strength - and she pulled herself together and made it back on her own to the car. Very proud of her tough girl spirit!! We celebrated all evening and the next day at school telling all her friends about how she survived a cactus encounter on her big hike!! :D
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Sep 20 2012
mt98dew
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49 male
 Joined Oct 24 2010
 Phoenix,Az
Levee Trail - MSPPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Sep 20 2012
mt98dew
Hiking3.13 Miles 238 AEG
Hiking3.13 Miles   1 Hour   15 Mns   2.50 mph
238 ft AEG
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1st trip
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Nice morning hike with Velva. Went to the McDowells with plans to hike the Gateway Loop. Temps. were a little higher than anticipated so we did an abbreviated hike starting with the Gateway, but then connecting to the Paradise Trail, then to the Levee and back to the TH via the Equestrian Bypass. Saw quite a few lizards and a few hikers, but not much else. Only did the Levee and Equestrian completely so logged this hike under the Levee. Nice little hike with my wife for my 43rd bay.
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