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Levee Trail - MSP - 11 members in 74 triplogs have rated this an average 2 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Aug 18 2012
johnlp
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62 male
 Joined Mar 16 2008
 chandler,az
Thompson Peak from Dixie Mine THPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Aug 18 2012
johnlp
Hiking14.35 Miles 3,780 AEG
Hiking14.35 Miles   3 Hrs   41 Mns   3.90 mph
3,780 ft AEG
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From 104th & Bell. Cooler but humid. Soaked all my clothes with sweat before it even got warm out. Saw a nice white tail buck on the way down from the peak.
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Jun 24 2012
slowandsteady
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45 female
 Joined Jan 05 2012
 Phoenix,AZ
Loop in the McDowells, AZ 
Loop in the McDowells, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jun 24 2012
slowandsteady
Hiking13.98 Miles 3,320 AEG
Hiking13.98 Miles   6 Hrs      2.33 mph
3,320 ft AEG
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1st trip
Since it was a nice cool day we decided to do a loop in the McDowell's....

We parked at 104th Street and Bell, we went up to Bell Pass and down the other side to the Windmill Trail. We went down and checked out the lonely Cottonwood Tree and then went back to the East End Trail. We decided we felt pretty good and headed up to Tom's Thumb.

The bee's were really buzzing around the Spring on the Tom Thumb Trail. They didn't mind that we dipped our hats into the water to cool off a bit.

When we got to the Gateway Loop Trail we went up to the Saddle. We hadn't seen anyone else out enjoying the day since the Bell Pass Trail. We saw three others around Gateway Saddle, maybe we were a little crazy to be out. We headed to the Paradise Trail and back to car.
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May 24 2012
BobP
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57 male
 Joined Feb 26 2008
 Scottsdale, AZ
Thompson Peak from Dixie Mine THPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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BobP
Hiking14.40 Miles 3,780 AEG
Hiking14.40 Miles
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Apr 28 2012
BobP
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57 male
 Joined Feb 26 2008
 Scottsdale, AZ
Bell Pass - Bell / 104th THPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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BobP
Hiking9.40 Miles 2,250 AEG
Hiking9.40 Miles
2,250 ft AEG
 
did some other cool stuff prospecting peaks.
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Apr 27 2012
BobP
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 Joined Feb 26 2008
 Scottsdale, AZ
Windgate Bell LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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BobP
Hiking9.70 Miles 2,269 AEG
Hiking9.70 Miles
2,269 ft AEG
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Apr 21 2012
paulshikleejr
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54 male
 Joined Feb 02 2010
 Scottsdale, AZ
Paradise Levee 104th Crossover Hike, AZ 
Paradise Levee 104th Crossover Hike, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Apr 21 2012
paulshikleejr
Hiking7.10 Miles 785 AEG
Hiking7.10 Miles   2 Hrs   47 Mns   2.55 mph
785 ft AEG33 LBS Pack
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1st trip
Great hike to collect data for several MSP trail tracks.
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Mar 20 2012
FLYING_FLIVER
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 Joined Jan 28 2010
 Fountain Hills,
Drinkwater Peak - MSPPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Mar 20 2012
FLYING_FLIVER
Hiking8.10 Miles 2,667 AEG
Hiking8.10 Miles   9 Hrs   28 Mns   1.27 mph
2,667 ft AEG   3 Hrs   5 Mns Break18 LBS Pack
 
This was an out-and-back. Bell Pass then up (cholla, cholla galore going up).
Initially to McDowell Pk, where that old emergency antennae lives, then .42 miles over the ridgeline to the other side. Four or five little peaks in between to hop over.

This hike was alot of fun, but I did not accomplish my main goal.
My main reason to hike up the McDowell Pk ridgeline was to find and document MCDOWELL RESET Triangulation Benchmark, and its two Reference Marks. I had unconfirmed information that only Reference Mark #1 remained, so I was aware I may not find anything more than RM #1.

Background info - - - Surveyors left Phoenix in 1924 and used ranch/mining roads and dim track roads to get to the area we now know as Windgate Pass Trail, and then "packed" south, up to the mountain ridgeline. I find that direction an interesting choice on their part.
Ironically, the surveyors (1924) did not put the benchmark on McDowell Pk, even though they thought that was the highest point in the McDowell Mountain chain. The surveyors "monumented" the triangulation benchmark (datasheet quote--"On westerly and lower summit of McDowell Pk, highest point in McDowell Mountains").
They called that whole little range, McDowell Pk.

We now call that "westerly lower summit", Drinkwater Pk, and we also now know that East End Pk is the highest point in the McDowells. (Not McDowell Pk)
By the way, the surveyors set no reference marks in 1924.

Surveyors went up again and checked on the Tri Mark in 1935, and found it vandalized/stolen. All that was left was the steel rod/stem in the rock outcrop, so they installed another disk and stamped it "1924-1935" and classified it a "RESET". They placed it in the exact same location. 1935 is when they set the 2 reference marks, (disks with arrows pointing to the actual survey benchmark), and stamped them 1924-1935 Ref Mark #1 (& #2)
In 1946/1947/1960/1974, surveyors reported all 3 disks in good shape.

Well, after a 2 hour search, using the Tri Mark's datasheet info, my GPS, a measuring tape, a shovel, a probe, and my common sense, I found nothing more than the already reported MCDOWELL Reference Mark #1. I have to believe, sometime between 1974 and now, the triangulation mark and ref mark #2 were vandalized and stolen. Their locations would be right on the ridge line, and easily seen by anyone hiking along this rather narrow stretch. Ref Mark #1 however is more secluded. It's lower and off the ridgeline, 55 feet away, and maybe that's why it survives.
What really surprises me is this vandalism usually doesn't happen in such a remote location. This area is not easy to get to and isn't visited very much.
I did find alot of wire, wood strips and nails strewn around, that the surveyors originally used to erect a vertical staff above the Tri Mark. That's a very normal find, however.

I vow to come back and look one more time, after I do a bit more research.
Who knows, maybe I should bring a metal detector & search further under the dirt. :) :)

One thing is for sure, the views are amazing up there, in all directions. That was worth the hike in itself.
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Mar 10 2012
Crzy4AZ
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46 female
 Joined Apr 02 2007
 Scottsdale, AZ
Gateway Loop Trail - MSPPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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Crzy4AZ
Hiking1.75 Miles 75 AEG
Hiking1.75 Miles   1 Hour      1.75 mph
75 ft AEG
 
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Thursday's short hike reminded me of the potential fun of a short hike to the Brown's Ranch ruins at the crossover trail intersection with Gateway Loop trail. I told Caroline we were hiking to a play house to have a snack and she could wear a real back pack with her own "Camelpack". I have an old tiny pink Camelback backpack with 0.75 L that's for joggers or something-- perfect for a 3 year old. Took her a bit to figure out the water spout with a few puddles in the living room - but then she conquered it and was on top of the world! :D

Drove the less than half a mile from our house to 104th parking area - kind of pathetic but didn't want to peak too soon by hiking to trailhead and then turning around to walk back home. George was ready to crash and went right to sleep in the ERGO as soon as we started out. Caroline hiked every step of that miserable Levee trail herself. She plucked some creosote and put it into a bouquet for me and we sang nursery rhymes but inserted desert words instead. Like for Old MacDonald we did Javalina and Bobcat. Little Miss Muffet sat on a cactus - hardy har har - :sl: but 3 year olds go crazy for that stuff!

Went from Levee :next: Crossover :next: Ranch ruins and back same. Never really touched Gateway trail - and never touched Paradise trail so not sure where to log this ridiculously short walk. But I like keeping track of our mini hikes even if they are tiny in distance. Caroline ate a crusher (she loves the ferocity of that word - "I need a crrrrusshhher Mommy!" of fruit/veggie something or other inside the playhouse ruins. We played kitchen like we were baking cookies. And she picked an area that would be her room if we lived there. George fussed and the sun was setting so we went back the same way to the car. A couple of little spills but no injuries. No screaming or crying. A very good little walk in the desert with my babies. I'm sure we will be picnicking at the playhouse ruins again soon!
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Mar 08 2012
Crzy4AZ
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46 female
 Joined Apr 02 2007
 Scottsdale, AZ
Paradise Trail - MSPPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Mar 08 2012
Crzy4AZ
Hiking3.00 Miles 275 AEG
Hiking3.00 Miles   1 Hour   30 Mns   2.25 mph
275 ft AEG      10 Mns Break22 LBS Pack
 
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We did the smallest lasso-loop possible in the McDowells today on what was supposed to be a date hike day with just me and hubby. Plans originally called for Tom's Thumb loop starting from 104th lot. Then the Little Guy (now a year old!) George got hand-foot-mouth virus :stretch: and kicked out of daycare for a few days - - so we had a plus one for the day! Amended plans were to just do Bell Pass and back with a break for lunch.

The tiniest lasso loop possible in the McDowells: from 104th lot to Levee - Crossover to Paradise up to Gateway Loop - to Crossover by the ruins - back to Levee.

George is not a fan of the Kelty. He's an ERGO kind of guy and this hike proved it. Caroline always loved the Kelty but George was bucking and whining and miserable. So I fashioned a baby carrier out of UPF50 blanket I had with me and carried him from Paradise back to parking lot. Having the backpack on balanced me out a little but by the end when he fell completely asleep - my left arm was numb. Lesson learned - George is an ERGO baby. Nice for travel since Kelty takes up ton of space and Caroline is a real hiker now out of all pouches and such.

Then with the weather so nice and we both had the day off we salvaged the rest of the afternoon with the jogging stroller at Greenbelt area by Mercado del Lago shopping center on Hayden. Had a picnic lunch in the shade with George playing toys quietly. Walked around the golf course and lakes just to soak up some of this beautiful winter weather.
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Jan 25 2012
New2hyk
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53 female
 Joined Jan 04 2012
 scottsdale, AZ
Quartz Trail - MSPPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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New2hyk
Hiking9.00 Miles 1,000 AEG
Hiking9.00 Miles   3 Hrs   45 Mns   2.40 mph
1,000 ft AEG
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:y: this is my last hike before the fundraiser event(9miles). I am very proud of myself :y: Went from zero to 9 mile hikes in 6 weeks. Next goal will be set after the 28th :DANCE: :DANCE: :DANCE:
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Aug 05 2011
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57 male
 Joined Apr 02 2005
 Mesa, AZ
Bell Pass - Bell / 104th THPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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Tortoise_Hiker
Hiking7.60 Miles 1,650 AEG
Hiking7.60 Miles   2 Hrs   20 Mns   3.26 mph
1,650 ft AEG
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I met up with Bob at 5:30pm.We did this trail from 104th st.Bob took it easy on me on the way up but it still kicked my butt.From the pass we went up and checked out the Peak on the right side.Great views and a little extra workout.Bob ran me on the way back for a mile and a half or so and then let me walk the rest of the way.Great workout and great to get out on the trail with Bob again!Thanks,Bob! :sweat: :y:
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Jan 12 2008
Crzy4AZ
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 Joined Apr 02 2007
 Scottsdale, AZ
Thompson Peak from Dixie Mine THPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking13.80 Miles 3,912 AEG
Hiking13.80 Miles   6 Hrs   30 Mns   2.12 mph
3,912 ft AEG
 
We took a sadistic route to Thompson Peak from the Scottsdale side. Parked at Bell/104th St. Took Levee to Paradise to Bell Pass to Prospector (3.6 mi, 1520 AEG so far). Then 1.3 down on Prospector to Thompson Peak Rd. Then up 2 miles on the road to the Peak (1586 ft AEG from low point on Prospector to Thompson Peak).

Spent about 45 min at the summit eating lunch and looking around. The fence was open to one of the towers while a maintenance guy worked from his truck on something.

I would not go this route again, but I was able to satisfy my curiosity about linking Scottsdale trails to this peak. Went back the same way we came in. The 806 foot climb from Prospector back to Bell Pass was modest but painful.
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Jan 09 2008
Crzy4AZ
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 Joined Apr 02 2007
 Scottsdale, AZ
Bell Pass - Bell / 104th THPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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Crzy4AZ
Hiking7.10 Miles 1,520 AEG
Hiking7.10 Miles   2 Hrs   7 Mns   3.35 mph
1,520 ft AEG
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Gorgeous weather! Enjoying a day off. :BH: Seven cars in the parking area a little before noon. Didn't spend much time at the Pass before heading down. Really only saw people on the lower trails - no one on the steep part up or down. Long sleeves in the mid-day sun: poor decision-making there.
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Jan 05 2008
Crzy4AZ
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Windgate Bell LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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Hiking10.10 Miles 1,967 AEG
Hiking10.10 Miles   4 Hrs   10 Mns   2.42 mph
1,967 ft AEG
 
Went counter clockwise starting at Bell/104th lot. Levee to Paradise to Bell Pass to Windgate Pass down Gateway Loop (skipping the saddle) to 104th St trail (what I was calling the Jeep road before). They just put out new signs from the parking area calling it "104th Street trail".

Stopped briefly at Bell Pass. Saw half a dozen bikers and a dozen hikers all morning.

I like the views going clockwise better. But both directions are fun on this loop.
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