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Oct 19 2013
The_Eagle
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 Far NE Phoenix,
Drew-See Canyon-Upper Horton-Highline Loop, AZ 
Drew-See Canyon-Upper Horton-Highline Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Oct 19 2013
The_Eagle
Hiking23.52 Miles 5,600 AEG
Hiking23.52 Miles   12 Hrs   22 Mns   2.07 mph
5,600 ft AEG   1 Hour    Break16 LBS Pack
 
1st trip
Goals for the day.

See lot of Fall Color - Check
- It was Bustin' Out on a lot more of this track than I'd thought.

Bushwhack down the canyon to See Spring - Check
- A highlight. It was slow going, but worth every minute of the scramble. Color, Rock formations, Tree Cover... it had it all. Long pants recommended!

Hike down Horton Spring Trail - Check
- WOW.... We hit it with perfect light. Sweet views. It gets REAL steep in places. It is cairned, but a GPS track is recomended.

Hear Joe admit I'm Right - Check
- I made him say it a few times. what a refreshing change.

Hike a portion of the Highline I had not been on before - Check
- Who would a thunked that there'd be color on the Highline.

Collect some new words for the Bartels' Dictionary (aka Funky Wagnels) - Oops
- I've gotta start writing them down. They even amuse him!

Finish before dark - Oops
- Took a bit longer bushwhacking down to See Spring than anticipated

Sample some Tibbersnacks - Damn!
- We were late for them, we scurried around the grounds like squirrels thinking she'd hid them, to no avail.

Thanks Larry and Joe for a great day out there...

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Horton Spring
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Autumn - Color Foliage Sunset
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Did not check the actual spot, but based on the water up and down stream from the source, it should be flowing fine.

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As always... It's a gusher

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Did not go down to check it out, but there was flowing water in the creek bed in this area

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Lot of water, from numerous sources, starting at least a 1/2 mile up canyon from the spot indicated on the Topo maps
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Jul 07 2013
JuanJaimeiii
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 Chandler, AZ
Horton Promontory See Derrick Loop, AZ 
Horton Promontory See Derrick Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jul 07 2013
JuanJaimeiii
Hiking21.10 Miles 5,077 AEG
Hiking21.10 Miles   7 Hrs   14 Mns   3.02 mph
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This little Gem was put together by Bruce. He and Joe did it last year and now I have done it twice. I did it both clockwise and counter clockwise. I did it in the snow and the heat. I've got to say it is a winner no matter how you do it!

This one gets two thumbs up and should go in Bruce's new book: "52 Arizona Extreme Dayhikes" for the intermediate to advanced hiker. He and Madhiker a.k.a. Charles Liu are going to co-author the book. They just don't know it yet. It would be perfect. A hike for each week of the year that ranges between 14 and 25 miles. Bruce has a knack for putting these type hikes together and I really enjoyed Charles' book style. In fact I will buy the first 10 copies. I am sure it wouldn't be hard to find homes for them.

Now for the hike: I saw a black rattler going up Horton which surprised me with all the traffic on that trail. Promontory was steep as always. I made a quick stop at the county high point and then on I went to the See Canyon trail.

The way down See was a slow go. To my surprise there were tons of Raspberries. I couldn't help myself and had to stop several times and indulge. I probably ate a hundred or more. Then I finally reached the Highline and it was a quick trip back to the Derrick where I would return back to the Jeep.

Thanks again Bruce for this great Butterfly Loop! It's a winner!
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Jun 23 2013
JuanJaimeiii
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Derrick - Horton LoopPayson, AZ
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JuanJaimeiii
Hiking9.11 Miles 2,100 AEG
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Looks like the Horton side of the loop is all done on the trail re-route. The Derrick side along with a small bit of Highline appears to be about 90% complete. The spring was icy cold and delicious. :y:
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May 11 2013
JuanJaimeiii
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Derrick Promontory Butte Loop, AZ 
Derrick Promontory Butte Loop, AZ
 
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JuanJaimeiii
Hiking18.03 Miles 4,276 AEG
Hiking18.03 Miles   6 Hrs   56 Mns   2.66 mph
4,276 ft AEG      10 Mns Break
 
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The three Johns went out for a Phoenix escape hike. We were planning on doing a simple Derrick Horton Loop. Then we decided to go up the Promontory Trail to the top of Promontory Butte. Steep as ever! The boys wanted to hit the Gila County High Point so we headed over to the benchmark.

Somewhere along the way 9L decided it would be fun to hike over to FR300 and then take the Horton Creek Trail back down. (super loop style) We found the Horton Trail just fine as it is well signed. The way down is steep in places and the trail requires a bit of route finding but it is well cairned.

When we hit the highline we went left when we should have taken a quick right. That is if we wanted to head out via the Horton Trail. After about a half mile we started to think we were going the wrong way. 9L check his GPS and sure enough. It didn't really matter since we would end up at the same place so we decided to avoid the Horton weekend crowds and just keep on trucking. Good times!
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May 11 2013
John9L
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Derrick Promontory Butte Loop, AZ 
Derrick Promontory Butte Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar May 11 2013
John9L
Hiking18.03 Miles 4,276 AEG
Hiking18.03 Miles   6 Hrs   56 Mns   2.66 mph
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Nice day out with JJ3 & LP. We followed the Derrick Trail up to the Promontory Trail and on to the rim. The way up is ridiculously steep and loose! It was a lot of work struggling up the "trail". Once on top our going was fairly easy as we made our way over to the high point. While searching we spotted a six foot cairn and then found the register buried over by the rim. We signed in and enjoyed the views.

From there we made our way to 300 and followed that west to Horton. We made our way down another semi steep trail. Our plan was to take Horton back but made a wrong turn and decided to just go with it and returned via the Highline and Derrick Trail thus completing a lasso loop.

Felt great getting back out above the rim. It's such beautiful country up there. I look forward to spending a lot of time up there this summer. Bring on the heat!
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May 11 2013
johnlp
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 chandler,az
Derrick Promontory Butte Loop, AZ 
Derrick Promontory Butte Loop, AZ
 
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Hiking18.03 Miles 4,276 AEG
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Three johns out looking for a little fun part 2:

It is a little too warm to go south to Organ Pipe to hike, so we headed north towards the rim. Good choice as the temps were mostly cool on a beautiful day. We started out going up the Derrick trail. Quite a bit of it has been rerouted not far from the original trail. We decided to hike up to the rim via the Promontory trail rather than the Horton Creek trail. The middle third of the Promontory trail is as steep and loose as advertised.

Once up top we headed over to the Gila County high point which is maybe a half mile away. I signed the register for us while we enjoyed the vast views below and of the Mazzies. From here our goal was to hike off trail north to intercept FR 300. We had to head east a few times to avoid some major down climbs. After a bit we hit a forest service road that led us to FR 300.

After a few miles on FR 300 and we met up with the Horton Creek trail and started down off the rim. The top part of the Horton Creek trail is a little steep and the footing isn't good. I bounced off my bum a couple times.

Once we met up with the Highline trail, we went left (downhill) instead of right which would have led us to Horton Spring. It didn't take long to figure out we were going the wrong way, but this route led us back to the Derrick trail anyway and none of us wanted to backtrack to Horton Spring and all the people who would be there.

We endured some more uphill and once reaching the Promontory trail intersection again it was all downhill from there back to John's car. Now its time for Del Taco in Payson. We all ate lunch for $11. :y:

The trip home went quickly as JJ showed us how well his car handles at speeds that seemed hard to believe. :o

Fun hiking with the two Johns again. Thanks for driving JJ, I think. :)
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Apr 13 2013
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 Mesa,AZ
Derrick - Horton LoopPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Apr 13 2013
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Hiking9.10 Miles 1,600 AEG
Hiking9.10 Miles   4 Hrs   8 Mns   2.79 mph
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Very nice loop hike. While hiking on the Derrick Trail we saw an elk and heard some others. Lots of trail work being done on these trails including re-routes on the Derrick. We crossed paths with the trail crew as they were leaving their camp near Horton Spring. We were lucky in that we were able to enjoy the spring to ourselves, but while we were having our snack large groups were descending on the area. The hike back on Horton was nice but a little to crowded for my liking. Got some great photos :y:

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See Canyon Trail #184Payson, AZ
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toddak
Hiking23.00 Miles 5,000 AEG
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Another fine route cobbled together by linkmasters coanbru and joe bartels. Side out&back on HS292.
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Derrick - Horton LoopPayson, AZ
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Hiking avatar Aug 25 2012
outdoor_lover
Hiking11.00 Miles 2,200 AEG
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Got Coffee? :sweat: What a great day! :D Long, funny, and very rewarding. Since I had quite a bit of time to kill before I picked John up at the Barnhardt TH, I picked this Hike, even though it was a Saturday. I have never done the Horton Trail and since it was going to be warm, I thought a swim might be the order of the Day. :D Since I'm not a big fan of "out and back" Trails, I found this Loop on HAZ and decided it was right up my alley. I needed a longer Hike with some nice AEG for a change and this definitely fit the bill... :sweat: Besides that, I was hoping to avoid some of the Crowds for at least half the Hike. Turns out, I avoided the Crowds completely except for the Parking area at the beginning... :o

After doing a few Merry-Go-Round Loops on Highway 87 with John, looking for a "missing Mile", I dropped him off at the locked gate where he was to start. I got to the Horton Picnic Area around 8:30 and found at least 50 people there and nowhere to park. I finally parked about a 1/2 mile up the road. Walked down the Road and tried to follow the directions to get to the Derrick TH, but it was a little confusing. A passing Motorist was very helpful and it turned out that access is way easier than the Description states. Got started on the Trail and within 20 minutes, saw 2 White-Tailed Deer bounding away from me. Too far for a pic, even when they stopped and I went into stalking mode...

I wore my Tennis Shoes/Water Shoes on this Hike since I figured to be swimming later. This made the going a little slower as much of the Derrick Trail was muddy and/or very Rocky! These shoes have very little tread left which didn't help any, so the going was slow in places, especially the Rocky parts. And I'm not talking Pebbles here.... :sweat: I've been having some trouble with my ankles turning lately, but surprisingly, even with the condition of these 3 Trails today, I didn't turn an ankle once. It probably actually helped wearing low cut shoes with no Tread. I think I probably worked every muscle, tendon, and ligament by the time it was all said and done. Perfect strengthening exercise.... :sweat:

With the Shoe Factor, the Rocks, the Mud, and the Steepness in parts, it took me a little while to get to the Derrick/Highline Split, but I got there and took a nice break before moving on. I was treated to some Panoramic Peeks through the Trees along both the Derrick and Highline Trails. Both of these were nice Scenic Trails, with the Highline Section being the most Scenic of the two. I am very glad that I opted to do this Loop CCW. I got to a very long descent into a Canyon just before you get to Horton, and it was pure, slippery mud, with no rocks to help you out. And it was steep in sections, I don't think I would have wanted to be going up, on this part today....I don't know how I did it, but I didn't slip and fall once on this entire Trip, despite the Shoes and Trail Conditions.

The Clouds had gradually started to build as I was Hiking the Derrick and Highline, and as I started up the final ascent on the Highline just before Horton, it started raining. By the time I got up to the top and started the descent to the Creek itself, it was raining hard...I no longer had to worry about a swim in the Creek to cool off. I was soaked to the skin before I ever saw the Creek... :sweat:

Finally, at the Creek, I immediately took a right and headed for the Spring. I could see two separate Streams with Waterfalls, so of course, I checked them both out, with the Main Spring first. It was still raining like an SOB, so I hung out at the Main Spring for about an hour until the Rain quit. I wanted to get some pictures, but didn't want to get the Camera and Lens wet, so I waited it out and ate a cold, soggy Egg McMuffin for lunch... :yuck: By the time the Rain let up and I had satisfied my "tibber mode", I was almost cold...BRRRR...Hiked over and got pics of the Secondary Spring and then started the Trip down the Creek, still in full "tibber mode". I climbed up and down the hill quite a few times off the Trail, to check out the Creek and get pictures.

At first, Horton Creek Trail was ok, even with the Rain, it was just soggy, but was absorbing the Water well. That changed drastically about 1/2 mile down.... :o Horton Trail became a Creek all by itself with the runoff from the Rain. If there wasn't running or pooled Water, then it was a slick, muddy mess almost the entire way down. Once again, slow going, with slipping, sliding and some nice Gyrations thrown in for sport... :sweat: About 1/2 way down, I decided that it was time to just stay on the Trail and try to get down in one piece. I was actually starting to run out of time, my legs were starting to ache pretty good and my left knee was being crankier than normal. As nice as this Hike was, it was time for it to be over and I was pretty happy to see the Campground and a nice Picnic Table!!! I rested there for a bit and then started the Hike to the Jeep.

I looked like some kind of Mud Monster when I got to the Car, and I didn't want to foul up John's absolutely immaculate Jeep, so I stripped down and took a shower with a gallon of Water I had and put on some dry clothes. Luckily there wasn't much Traffic on the Road for that 15 minutes.... :sweat:

This was a great Loop and would've been even better with good Shoes and better Trail conditions. I missed alot of Horton Creek, but after seeing this Creek, I know that I will be back several more times to Boulder Hop and Bushwack it. It is a Wonderful Creek, full of Waterfalls, Cascades, Swimming Holes, and nice clean, clear Water...I shall return!!! The stats for this Hike seem "off". So I averaged them in with the Routes posted and then added just a little bit of Mileage and AEG for the Car and numerous Side Trips to the Creek itself. I think for not having a GPS, I'm fairly close. AmAZingly, I only saw 14 people on the Trails all day. About 1 1/2 miles from Horton, I ran into a couple of guys who stated that there were at least 200 people at the Springs when they left an hour or so before, with many of them being Boy Scouts.... :o By the time I got to Horton, I only saw three other people, besides the party of 5 that I ran into on the Highline. How cool is that! Pretty much had this day, including the Horton part, all to myself, woo hoo!!!

The Photoset will be awhile. I've got places to go and Trails to Hike all this week, but I wanted to get this Log up while the details were fresh...

I drove into Payson and made a couple of stops, picking up some Diet Dew for John. (Like he needs Diet anything... :lol:) After getting John's Jeep nice and muddy on the drive in to Barnhardt, I actually arrived at the TH right on time. I got a couple of texts from John with his time frame to finish and found that I had an hour to relax. Tried to get off my aching legs for awhile and enjoyed a really nice Sunset.

John arrived an hour later and we celebrated his AZT Finish with a couple of ice cold Dews!!!
Way to go John!!! That was an Epic Journey for you, Congratulations!!!

Got home and died for about 10 hours. Did I mention that I put this day in with no sleep the night before??? :sweat:
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At the Bridge next to Horton Picnic area. Running well, but very muddy looking.
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Aug 04 2012
JuanJaimeiii
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JuanJaimeiii
Hiking10.00 Miles 3,335 AEG
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Nice afternoon hike that included a trip up to Promontory Butte. That trail (Promontory) isn't in any better shape than the last time I went up it and it isn't wasn't any easier of a climb. :sweat: Still quite enjoyable I might add.

The park was closed to camping due to heavy bear activity. I would say this is the greenest I have ever seen the section of the Highline between the Horton Trail and the Derrick Trail.

I never get tired of this hike. It's just simply awesome!
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Derrick See Horton Butterfly Loop, AZ 
Derrick See Horton Butterfly Loop, AZ
 
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Hiking20.90 Miles 4,870 AEG
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Wow! - Bruce created a winning butterfly loop for those in search of hitting up all the nearby attractions.

We started off on the Derrick Trail #33 and a first for myself. It's better than what I envisioned. On the same token I can't really give it more than a 2 out of 5 with Horton and See Canyon in the neighborhood. Jagged over on the Highline Trail #31 to See Canyon Trail #184. It's been 12 years since I've enjoyed ol' See Canyon. Christopher Creek was flowing considerably more than my previous two journeys back in 2000.

Bruce took the side jaunt up to See Spring while I attempted to rest. Turns out See Spring was just going wild compared to what I recalled, wowzer. The hike up See Canyon was a fun one yet a mental struggle for my sleep deprived body. Onward to Promontory Butte 7,914. This was quite impressive with it's stunning rim views.

A late lunch was enjoyed just past the Promontory Trail #278 upper trailhead. A powerful current rising off the rim took away from much needed relaxation. The views on the other hand were definitely in my top 12 lunch spots ever.

Next we headed down #278. Holly smokes that is one steep trail. I was shocked to see it only cranked up 30% grade on TOPO! That's steeper than Squaw or Camelback but nothing near a Reverse Flatiron or Catalina Hwy down to Bear Canyon which are almost twice as steep. Looking back this is true too. #278 heads down a 56% grade, yet the trail diagonals.

Back on the Highline Trail #31 we rejoiced in glee. Transversing over to Horton chewed up several mini breaks but we whined it out like grown men.

Horton was just awesome as always. This was Bruce's first visit and he probably took one of the toughest approaches save starting in Pine! Heading back down to the trailhead we had the shade advantage of the ridge. We walked through a couple areas that smelled so incredibly beautiful I didn't want to leave.

Thanks for a great loop mr bruce! Counter clockwise is the ticket on this bad boy!
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Derrick See Prom High Horton Loop, AZ 
Derrick See Prom High Horton Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jun 02 2012
The_Eagle
Hiking22.12 Miles 5,140 AEG
Hiking22.12 Miles   11 Hrs   42 Mns   2.24 mph
5,140 ft AEG   1 Hour   50 Mns Break
 
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This area's been on my list for quite awhile.
I was looking for something to make the 2 hour drive North worthwhile.
This worked!

We made a last minute decision to make this a Counter Clockwise loop. Good call.

This loop is a steady climb, steep at times, all the way to Promontory Butte.

This hike starts out on the Derrick Trail and makes it's way over to the Highline trail. Both of these trails afforded some good views, but the best is yet to come.

We made our way into the See Canyon TH area, crossing Christopher Creek. The vegetation started getting thicker and greener. I was awe struck by the qty of Maples up there. This would make a great fall hike.

I made the 1.25 mile Round trip to check out See Spring. What a little slice of heaven back there. The forest canopy in spots, left the forest floor darker than I'm used to in Arizona. See Spring is more of an area. Water was flowing from the ground in multiple spots forming a quite sizable creek.

Continuing on towards the Rim, you stayed in dense forest most of the way. The climb up was steep and a bit loose in spots, but not that bad.

Once on top, the flat boring 3.5 mile walk on Promontory to the County High point, was a good way to rest my tired "Go Uppers". After stopping at the high point, we bushwhacked over to the Promontory TH for a little Lunch. On the way, in the middle of nowhere, we stumbled on a Mining claim placed under a small Cairn, in a glass jar from Oct 2006.

The lunch spot just west of the Promontory Butte TH, has moved into the top 10. We were perched on the edge of the rim with incredible 180 degree views out, and 1300' down to the trails we started on earlier in the day.

The drop off the rim at Promontory TH was defiantly a steep and loose one. At first glace it appeared that is was surprisingly well traveled, however, most of the previous travelers were Elk. We lost the trail in spots, but were never far from it.

It was a relief to be on the Highline trail on our way to Horton Spring. This trail was mostly in great shape. It appeared there had been an event recently on the trail.

I finally got to see Horton Spring. It's amazing how it just gushes out of the side of the mountain forming a creek/river.

This was a very enjoyable day. Joe even enlightened me on his interpretation of French Customs.


See Spring/Creek, Promontory Butte viewpoint, Horton Spring
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Flowing for quite awhile out of the spring.
Dry by the time it gets close to the Southern TH.

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The ground was damp

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Lots of clear clean water filling up the creek
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Hiking8.67 Miles 2,004 AEG
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Although it had poured overnight the forecast called for thundershowers throughout and there was a threatening sky, not having many opportunities to hike lately we went ahead anyway. Good thing we did because it turned out to be a wonderful day for a hike. Hazy clouds kept it from being too hot (although very humid after overnight rains) during the climb on the Derrick Trail. A few off trail excursions added to both our distance and accumulated elevation totals.

On the return trip via Horton Creek trail I pretty much ignored the trail itself, spending 90% of the time walking in the creek itself. Definitely makes it worthwhile to be wearing Teva Terra-Fi sandals!

I not only took plenty of photos but over 30 minutes of video, mainly of the numerous small waterfalls along the return trip. I've got plenty of editing still to do before posting a few videos, but the photos are posted as noted below:

Photos of the Derrick Trail section of the hike are here:
http://www.changephoenix.com/10/2010-08-06DerrickTrail.html
Photos of the Horton Creek section of the hike are here:
http://www.changephoenix.com/10/2010-08-06HortonCreek.html
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Apr 18 2010
AndreyP
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 Moscow, RU
Derrick - Horton LoopPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Apr 18 2010
AndreyP
Hiking8.90 Miles 2,240 AEG
Hiking8.90 Miles   4 Hrs      2.23 mph
2,240 ft AEG
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Hiked the loop clockwise: Horton Creek #285 - Highline #31 - Derrick #33. Trails are easy to find along all the loop.

Both Tonto and Horton creeks are running high, fortunately there is a bridge across Tonto creek, and I had to use boulder and log hopping to cross Horton creek right after the trailhead. Horton Creek trail alternately follows either old jeep road or creek bank providing opportunities to cool down in the water and to take pictures of little rapids and waterfalls. I met several groups of hikers in 10 minutes from the trailhead and 15 minutes approaching Horton Springs, so I got almost all the trail to myself.

Each of two Horton Springs is seething and shooting about 4-6 gal of water per second, so even at the very mouth of the creek I had to use a log crossing to get to the other side to continue on Highline trail. East Fork Horton Creek is also running, but less intensive. There are snow patches at the springs, at some stretches of Highline trail and generally on shadowed north slopes above 6500'. Highline trail section between Horton Springs and Promontory Butte Trail has a lot of fallen trees on it, but crossing them is quite easy except for two of them when I had to use both legs and arms to get over. Met nobody on Highline trail except quick little guys that must be Ornate Tree Lizards.

Junction with Derrick trail is a T-junction where Derrick trail extends Highline trail coming from west, and Highline trail eastbound turns to the left. Junction is marked with wooden trail signs on the pole as well as with yellow ribbon knots for Highline trail and blue ribbon knots for Derrick. Shortly after this junction I saw a phantom of male camper with big green backpack. I was catching him up, so I stopped to take picture of manzanita forest, he went around the corner on the trail in front of me and I've never seen or heard him again. Definitely that wasn't a Mogollon Monster though. About 2/3 of this trail going down is rocky and narrow and doesn't look like a former jeep road as some sources claim. At about the junction with Trail #32 there was a pack of 4 deer on the trail that ran away when I approached.

Trail distances: 3.5 mi Horton Creek trail from campground to Horton Springs; 2.4 mi Highline trail to Promontory Butte trail; 0.7 mi Highline trail to Derrick trail; 2.1 Derrick trail to campground. Other 0.2 mi are parking lot to campground and back.
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Jan 15 2010
southpawaz
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 Phoenix, AZ
Highline Trail 260 TH to Derrick & down, AZ 
Highline Trail 260 TH to Derrick & down, AZ
 
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southpawaz
Hiking13.09 Miles 1,518 AEG
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After some heavy snows in December, a warming trend melted the snow enough that I and some friends thought this segment of the Highline would be hikeable. We arranged to meet up and shuttle up from the Horton Springs TH to 260 and hike down the Highline and Derrick.

For the most part the trail was clear, and not too wet but in a few spots where there are hills south of the trail we found ourselves tromping through shin deep snow (except for their miniature poodle, who was light enough that she didn't break the crust). There was more climb in this than I expected, with the major piece being the crossing of See Canyon, but once we hit Derrick Junction it was all downhill from there.
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CannondaleKid
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 Mesa, AZ
Derrick - Horton LoopPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar May 30 2009
CannondaleKid
Hiking9.10 Miles 1,684 AEG
Hiking9.10 Miles   6 Hrs   3 Mns   1.50 mph
1,684 ft AEG
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As a gang of three we set out on the Horton Creek Trail, not knowing exactly how far we'd go nor whether we'd do an out-and-back to loop back on the Derrick Trail. Initially with the creek being bone-dry we wondered about the hike... "where was all the water we'd seen in photos of the hike here on HAZ?" Then as the trail lead away from the creek to the point we couldn't even see it we wondered "where is the creek?" :? Oh well, we'll just continue and see what happens.

A little farther on we hear running water and decide to leave the trail and head toward it. Ahh, there it is, running water in Horton Creek! At that point we figured we'd leave the trail behind and follow the creek. While that was a piece-of-cake for me in my Teva Terra-Fi "river sandals" the other two amigos had to be a bit creative to keep from dunking their hiking shoes/boots. But that may have been a good thing because every time I waited for them to catch up I was taking more photos than I normally would along with a number of videos.

When we got to the point where it connects to the Derrick Trail we'd spent so much time on the hike out we jumped on the trail and headed back out. If only we'd known just how close Horton Spring was we'd have gone that few hundred feet farther! :x (A year later on a return trip I found that out)

Now on the Derrick Trail the great weather we had earlier was quickly changing, looking worse by the moment. We picked up the pace but it wasn't far and the downpour was so great we stopped to wait out the worst of it. Soon realizing that could be some time as soon as it eased slightly we set off again. That didn't last long... now it's hailing so we sought cover although little was to be found at the point. It was only after the worst had passed before I thought, "hey I should be taking a video of this!" Better late than never... and I got part of it anyway. (see below)

After the hail passed we set out on the slog back to the car. The worst was when we hit the area with wet, thick clay. Every step I took it felt like I grew an inch taller while gaining a few pounds! :o Whoa! I AM an inch taller and a pound heavier! The clay was building up thicker with every step, weighing me down. So it quickly became "take 3 steps, stop, scrape mud off the soles (with a stick I picked up) and take the next 3 steps. It didn't take long for that to get old. But eventually we found more solid ground (or more brush on the trail) and picked up the pace again. And now being mainly downhill it wasn't long and we made it back to the car.

In the end this turned out to be one of our best hikes... it had everything, bewilderment, joy, suspense, fear, burdens, perseverance and back to joy. Yup, it had dry smooth trails, dry rock hopping, sloshing through fast running water, rain, wind, hail and mud. But heck, it was just plain fun! (I was going to say "good CLEAN fun" but we were far from clean at the end)

Hike photo links are as follows:
Horton Creek photos on the way out:
http://www.changephoenix.com/09/2009-05-30HortonCreek.html
Composite of running water videos in Horton Creek:
http://www.changephoenix.com/09/videos09/2009-05-30HortonCreek.rm
Return trip on the Derrick Trail:
http://www.changephoenix.com/09/2009-05-30DerrickTrail.html
Video of the hail storm we waited out amongst the trees in the Derrick Trail
http://www.changephoenix.com/09/videos09/2009-05-30DerrickTrail.rm
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Oct 22 2006
mazatzal
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Derrick - Horton LoopPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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mazatzal
Hiking8.80 Miles 2,130 AEG
Hiking8.80 Miles   4 Hrs   30 Mns   1.96 mph
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We took a visitor on this nice loop with fall colors. Saw a tarantula.
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Derrick - Horton LoopPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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mazatzal
Hiking8.80 Miles 2,130 AEG
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Lots and lots of water in Horton Creek and some of the other creeks. :)
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