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Jun 28 2009
chumley
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 Joined Sep 18 2002
 Tempe, AZ
Houston Brothers Trail #171Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Jun 28 2009
chumley
Hiking9.00 Miles 600 AEG
Hiking9.00 Miles   3 Hrs      3.00 mph
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Camping in the area, we hiked Houston Brothers both Saturday and Sunday. Saturday was a little bit warm as it was very sunny, but clouds on Sunday made the hike extremely pleasant. All the springs were flowing and there were only a couple of short stretches where there was not water in the draw. Encountered a gaggle of boy scouts Saturday morning and three backpackers Saturday afternoon. Saw a guy on a mountain bike on Sunday, which is the first time I've ever seen that on this trail, but its a well-established trail and seems like it would make a nice single-track ride.

The dogs were also all over some cat feces north of Aspen Springs. There's only one kind of cat I know that lives up there!
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As always, flowing nicely from the hidden entrance to the spring behind the rock

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This spring flows year-round and bubbles up from an area of moss, small stones, and rare swampy plants. There's two large pine trees which tap the water in a shallow pool that results just a few feet downstream of the spring. Above this spring, Houston Draw is just a dry pine forest canyon, not the green grassy meadows which result below it.

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I think this spring flows all year. I've never seen it dry.

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Flowing great. Cold and clear!
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Jun 28 2009
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Cabin Loop - Mogollon RimPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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Hiking19.90 Miles 2,250 AEG
Hiking19.90 Miles   9 Hrs   40 Mns   2.06 mph
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East Cabin Loop:
Fred Haught to U-bar
U-Bar to Barbershop
Side trip to Buck Springs and wandered the area a bit
Barbershop to Houston Bros.
Houston Bros back to Pinchot Cabin.
Trek on Fred Haught back to car.

Heat and humidity was more than desirable today to do the loop.

Warning: You can get on the wrong road/trail pretty easily. There are over 20 crossings of roads, with only 3 of them marked by signs. Many of them are really devious - the trail will join a road for awhile, the road becomes the trail, then the trail will sneak away from the road after 0.3-0/7 miles with no signs! Argh, added nearly a mile backtracking after missing over 4 junctions.

This whole place is a maze of trails, abandoned trails, game trails, roads, atv roads, and old abandoned roads. I will have to return to figure out where half the stuff goes!

Houston Bros trail was great, the rest I thought were not great, maybe because of the heat. Dane Spring is a godsend to help cool off and Aspen Spring is really a very cool place.
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Jun 25 2009
Grasshopper
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Houston Brothers Trail #171Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Jun 25 2009
Grasshopper
Hiking4.80 Miles 587 AEG
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Our Mogollon Rim- Cabin Loop Area is a great location to practice GPS route finding skills. My camping friend Gary has had a nice Garmin GPS for one year+ and has only used it for a bare minimum of it's capability. From HAZ-Tim's recent 6/20 "off trail" triplog using this same trail, I got the idea to also do some "off trail" exploring and navigating off this same trail as did Tim, and also take the time on this planned loop hike to teach Gary some additional uses and features of his nice Garmin GPS. With at least two hours of free instruction from someone still learning too, we succeeded in doing both! :D

We were on a 6nt/7day car camping and hiking trip in this Cabin Loop Area, camped up FR139G. Our hiking loop route for this day was: From/back to our FR139G campsite via FR139 to Aspen Spring/Cabin to connect with Houston Brothers Trail south to off-trail to perennial McFadden Spring to off-trail to FR139 north to off-trail from FR139 through Dick Hart Draw back to our beginning campsite waypoint location. I instructed Gary on how to use his GPS "go to" waypoint function and he did most of the successful "leading the way" on the off-trail segments. I do believe I have now made a gpsjoe believer of Gary: "Become a skilled GPS user and it will set you free!"

Please see my posted pic set/captions and posted GPS Route/notes for more hike details.
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Flowing nicely this day with clear water from source;

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Flowing nicely this day and clear water from source;
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Jun 21 2009
oliverr99
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 Glendale, AZ
Houston Brothers Trail #171Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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oliverr99
Hiking7.00 Miles 600 AEG
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I hiked this on Father's Day with Take a Hike group. I only did about 6 miles, maybe 5 miles. The trail mostly goes up and down. It started to take a toll on my knees. I only hiked about half way in and turned around. The scenery is beautiful and the weather was perfect.
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Jun 20 2009
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Houston Brothers Trail #171Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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Hiking7.25 Miles 750 AEG
Hiking7.25 Miles   2 Hrs   45 Mns   2.64 mph
750 ft AEG
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Carolyn and I started this hike at 12:45 on a Saturday afternoon with the temperatures in the mid 60's. We did this as a quasi loop heading south on the Houston Brothers Trail down to McFarland Spring, and then heading east northeast cross country to eventually intersect with the U-Bar Trail and back to Pinchot Cabin. We parked on the side of FS 95 where it crosses over Houston Draw and headed south. What a beautiful hike! Lush and green with water flowing the length of the creek. We encountered HAZ's Trishness at Aspen Springs where she was busy putting out a neglected campfire left unattended. A very nice lady indeed. As we approached McFarland Spring, we crossed over the creek and headed up the rise to the east. The woods and undergrowth through here was very thin and spread out which made this trek relatively easy. On the top of the rise we came across a small gathering of elk, (6 to 8 critters), led by a large cow. No bulls however. As the wind was a cross wind, we were able to get within 50 yards or so of them before they bolted. Between following the elk and crossing the fences I didn't do as good of a job keeping my bearing line as I should have, but it was a nice day and we were in no hurry. Just before FSR 139 we walked into the middle of a prescribed burn area. No flames as the burn must have been earlier in the week. Just some smoldering embers here and there. It was wierd looking because the trees were untouched but the undergrowth was all torched. After crossing FSR 139 we headed northeast along an unmarked FSR that traveled along the top of a ridge. About a 1/4 mile before the end of this road we exited down the ravine to the west until it intersected the U-Bar trail at FSR 139. From there it was an uneventful 45 minutes back to the car. The entire trip was 7.25 miles in 2 3/4 hours with 750 feet of AEG. While the U-Bar Trail was nice, the Houston Brothers Trail steals all of the thunder in this neck of the woods.
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May 09 2009
chumley
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 Tempe, AZ
Houston Brothers Trail #171Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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chumley
Hiking4.00 Miles 600 AEG
Hiking4.00 Miles   1 Hour   30 Mns   2.67 mph
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Took a short hike (long walk?) Saturday morning while camping in the area. HBT is one of my favorites, and it didn't disappoint this time either. All the springs had nice water flow, and there was water flowing the entire length of Houston Draw. The meadows were bright with fresh spring grasses and yellow dandelions. A nice way to spend a couple of hours of a camping weekend. (We also did about two miles on Friday night under a full moon. No headlamps required. The trail is in such good shape that footing wasn't a problem even in the darkest shadows).
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Nov 07 2008
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 Phx, AZ
U - Bar Trail #28Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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Backpack17.70 Miles 1,325 AEG
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Started this part of the Trail from Pinchot Cabin. Arrived late Friday night around 10pm and left in the morning. This trail took a lot more time and energy than we had anticipated. Finished this section of the "East Cabin Loop" in 7.5 hours. The steep sections definitely took their toll on us and our spirit. We soon arrived to the Barbershop Trail #91 and made it most of the way before setting up camp around 1.5 miles from the Houston Brothers. The Barbershop Trail was easy going and pretty easy to follow. A couple sections the trail were non existent but thanks to gpsjoe's waypoints and maps we were able to stay on course. We pushed it out today the rest of the 7 miles we had left. We had a sprain in our group, injured leg so I was carrying out my girl friends pack and my own @ around 60lbs for most of the time left. Thank goodness the Houston Brothers Trail was mostly flat toward the end. Overall it was a good time. First time we tried to push the mileage for a trip. Thanks to everyone who contributes to this site for the GPS maps, coords, and descriptions. You are awesome!
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Sep 15 2008
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Cabin Loop - Mogollon RimPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Backpack avatar Sep 15 2008
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Backpack25.00 Miles 950 AEG
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Bob and I set out saturday morning along the General Crook Trail from the Railroad Tunnel Trailhead. We followed the GC trail for a while, got mis-oriented, and went back to FR300 for the rest of the way to the Houston Brothers trail. Our detour added about two miles to the overall trip length. The road walking was uneventful, but there was very little traffic and the views of the rim were fantastic. We spent about 5 miles on the road before heading off into the forest trails. The first section of the trail was fairly dense and there was sleet on the ground. It must been fairly old, but it was still frozen solid in the shade of the valley. Overall the valley was nice but nothing spectacular. That is, until we passed McFarland Springs. Once past the spring, on our way to Pinchot Cabin, the valley closed off and the scenery became as lush and verdant as I've ever seen the forest on the rim. The whole forest seemed like what you'd expect the forest looked like 100 years ago, before mismanagment and 100% containment made it nothing but dense stands of saplings. The ferns were thick and the grasses were tall, there were ponderosas, and oaks, and aspens, and I think there were even some firs here and there. A small stream wound it's way down the valley. Eventually, we found Pinchot Cabin, and ran into the first hikers we'd seen the whole trip. We briefly considered camping at the cabin, but nixed the idea since it was only 1400. We continued down the valley and encountered a large group of what looked like a youth group. There must have been about 30 kids with half a dozen adults as leaders as we approached the second cabin. We passed them quickly and then lingered long enough at the cabin that they passed us. We caught up to them again at the trailhead parking lot where we crossed the road and continued into the forest. We only went another mile or so before deciding that we'd made enough mileage and found a great campsite at the tip of a hill with a view into a canyon below. We made a camp, cooked some dinner and passed out early. The next morning we spent a lazy morning at the camp, cooked breakfast and had a couple pots of coffee. When we got going again we followed the road for a littl ewhile before climbing up a hill and then dropping into Quien Sabe Valley. There we found some nice camps, an old if not well laid road and some odd piles of lava rock, that seemed wildly out of place. We followed the valley for a few hours before dropping into Fred Haught canyon. We went down to the cabin. It looks like they are building another exclosure fence in the valley. After the canyone we made our way further up the canyon. Again the nature changed, and the canyon turned into another relic of old forest. We didn't see anyone else after some fisherman at the entrance to the canyon. The rest of ht ehike went by too quickly and before long we found ourselves back at the road up to the Railroad tunnel trail. It was a good hike and the weather was dry but cold. I can't wait to spend winter on the rim and hope the snow falls deep.
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Aug 21 2008
Grasshopper
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Fred Haught Trail #141Payson, AZ
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Hiking avatar Aug 21 2008
Grasshopper
Hiking8.80 Miles 1,176 AEG
Hiking8.80 Miles   3 Hrs   30 Mns   2.51 mph
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Three of us did a return 5nt/6day camping & day hiking trip back to one of our favorite locations on the Mogollon Rim- the Cabin Loop Area off Rim Road(FR300)camping up FR139G. This really is a great spot to camp. A secluded pine woods location at 7350ft elevation, just a .6mile hike to prennial Aspen Springs/Cabin to hook-up with the Houston Brothers Trail or a .75mile hike up FR139G to hook-up with the U-Bar Trail crossing or a 3.5mile drive down FR139 to hook-up with one of the main Barbershop Trail crossings. We had great weather for 5 of our 6 days with a low temp of 51F and day highs in the mid to upper 80's. On 8/24(our 5th day..fourth day hike) we had one serious monsoon in the late afternoon and evening. All springs and creeks were running and the area was so green and alive! In six days with four day hikes, we saw numerous bull elk, deer, one very healthy bobcat, and were entertained our last day by a very cute baby coyote! Our elegant and semi-healthy dinner meals(one night with BBQ sirlon steak & kielbasa-baked potatos-white corn on the cob-fresh veggie salad-ice cream for desert) would have impressed Randal S!! :) We also had a nice campfire every night!!

This second day-8/21 we planned to hike the Fred Haught TR(one way) from our campsite location. We planned a vehicle shuttle by driving two vehicles the 10ml road distance to our planned ending hike location at General Springs Cabin/TH. We left one vehicle there and drove the other back. Our hike started with a .6mls to connect with the Houston Brothers Trail at Aspen Springs/Cabin. We headed north for 1.5mls on the HB Tr to connect with the beginning TH for the Fred Haught TR#141(was #22) at Pinchot Cabin. On our previous visit to this area in May'08 we had hiked this trail to its intersection with the AZ Trail(5.6mls in from our starting point), then turned around to head back. Now with our vehicle shuttle setup we could hike the remaining 3.2ml distance of this 6.8ml one way Fred Haught Tr hike to end at General Springs Cabin/TH. I throughly enjoyed this last trail section. It followed a very scenic prennial creek named the Aqueduct(per my GPS maps). All the greenry with numerous ferns along the way just added to the days enjoyment of this day hike. I think now one of my top favorite hikes of this areas five Cabin Loop Trails.
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Jun 22 2008
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Houston Brothers Trail #171Payson, AZ
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Hiking avatar Jun 22 2008
topohiker
Hiking19.77 Miles 3,364 AEG
Hiking19.77 Miles   7 Hrs   15 Mns   2.73 mph
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Jun 21 2008
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 Holbrook, AZ
Houston Brothers Trail #171Payson, AZ
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Hiking17.60 Miles 600 AEG
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Started on U-Bar trail, cut across to the Barbarshop Trail via FS145 and then down the Houston Brothers Trail. Houston Brothers is a very nice trail and forest if very lush and green.

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Jun 08 2008
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 SLC, Utah
Cabin Loop - Mogollon RimPayson, AZ
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Vaporman
Hiking17.20 Miles 950 AEG
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I wasn't expecting to much from this forest hike, so I was pleasantly suprised to find so much more. This loop is a great backpacking destination with plenty of sweet camping spot, but I decided to day hike it to be more time efficient. I did it clockwise like most, lost the trail a few times but my GPS waypoints kept me on course most of the way, and ran into a few elk and a large coyote that Sunday morning plus the many squirrels and birds. I also came across a few cabins of course, bubbling creeks down in the many canyons, a couple springs, and all the many varieties of trees up here. I hiked it at a pretty good pace since there isn't much elevation change and enjoyed a cat nap under a tree at once of the creek crossings. This area would be a great place to just off-trail a nice loop from waypoints punched into your GPS since the forest isn't too thick. :D
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May 31 2008
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Cabin Loop - Mogollon RimPayson, AZ
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Hiking avatar May 31 2008
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Hiking15.70 Miles 2,433 AEG
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Hiked in total and starting at the Pinchot Cabin TH(at 6900'), this 17.2ml EAST CABIN LOOP HIKE takes in three of the five "Mogollon Rim-Cabin Loop Trails": U-Bar#28 at 7.7mls, Barbershop#91 at 4.0mls, and Houston Brothers#171 at 5.5mls.

One can hike this loop "counter-clockwise" starting from Pinchot Cabin on the Houston Bros TR or "clockwise" starting on the U-Bar TR. Having now hiked this loop both ways, I recommend doing it cock-wise for a little less AEG hiking back north on the Houston Bros TR and maybe a few less difficult route finding locations to deal with making your way through the numerous, confusing U-Bar & Barbershop trail-forest roads & old logging road intersections to choose from 8-[ ! I estimate that between the U-Bar TR and the Barbershop TR that there are at least ten(10) route finding locations where one can very easily roam off trail and end up having to hitch-hike :doh: (as I did on my first attempt 9/8/07). It took me three times just to correctly hike the Barbershop TR..finally figuring it all out on 5/18(the 1st ml in from Buck Springs Cabin) and 5/30/08(the 4ml section between the U-Bar TR intersection and the Houston Bros TR).

This loop hike is truly an excellent choice for a 2-3 day/night backpack with endless shaded ponderosa pine campsites to choose from, perennial springs & creeks, high Mogollon Rim elevations from 6500' to 7800', lots of wildlife around, and a ton of old history with 3 of the 6 historic Cabin Loop log cabin sites that you will pass by on this east loop hike. IF done as a dayhike, be sure you know the trails before attempting the whole thing and/or work out a vehicle shuttle which will allow you an easy exit if needed and will also work for shorter day hikes on these three trails.
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From our campsite off FR139G(.6mls from Aspen Springs Cabin/Houston Bros Tr), seven of us carpooled to the Houston Draw parking area off FR95 to meet topohiker-Ken at 9:am.

We eight headed down the .125mls to Pinchot Cabin & the TH start of the U-Bar TR#28. Before starting in on the U-Bar, I finally had a "live" chance to meet our HAZ- Preston Sands & family who were doing a weekend backpack in this area. Nice to meet you Preston! They were packing up their camp at Pinchot Cabin for the continuation of their backpack down the U-Bar TR to the Barbershop TR to camp at the Buck Springs Cabin complex for the night.

Loaded in Ken's Magellan this time with GPSjoe's CABIN LOOP GPS Route (highly recommended), we eight continued down the Pinchot Cabin spur entrance road to connect with FR139G for a correct right turn, then we continued down FR139G and .33mls past the next 90 degree left trail turn off of FR139G.. :oops: ..not a good start! Why weren't we closely following GPS-joe's GPS Route??.. absolutely no good reason why not!! From this point on we got serious about staying on trail and we did. It was an enjoyable hike with a lot of scenic ups and downs in wet draws/drainages and various canyons before we reached the lovely Dane Cabin area for our lunch break with a "sweet drinking water" perennial spring..very nice!

After lunch, four from our group(Bev,Gary,Margi,Mark) headed back on the U-Bar TR to our beginning TH having completed a 12.5ml hike. The other four of us- myself, Ken, Tom, and Nunya, pushed on with intentions of completing the entire 17.2ml East Cabin Loop. We correctly hiked the balance of the loop hike up too the Houston Bros TR at Aspen Springs Cabin(~1.5mls from our TH starting point at Houston Draw/Pinchot Cabin). At Aspen Springs, myself, Tom, and Nunya, split-off the trail for the .6ml hike back to our campsite on FR139G. We said our goodbyes to Ken and he continued up the Houston Bros TR to complete the entire 17.2ml loop and to his vehicle at Houston Draw for the 3hr drive back home. Our last evening together, we seven ate very well that evening around a nice campfire with charcoal-ed salmon with lemon, steamed/spiced veggies, a wonderful tossed salad with dressing, & assorted cheesecakes for dessert! :bigth:

Everyone left camp for home the next morning Sun-6/1. I decided to stay one more night just because...
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May 30 2008
Grasshopper
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Barbershop Trail #91Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar May 30 2008
Grasshopper
Hiking9.60 Miles 2,450 AEG
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!!..THIRD TIME's THE CHARM..!!

This very tough to navigate 5 mile one way trail had the "last laugh" with my previous two attempts to hike it on 9/8/07 & 5/18/08. Topohiker-Ken and I just could not figure it out. On 9/8/07 we started in from the west TH end at the Houston Brothers Tr intersection and on 5/18 we started in from the east TH end at Buck Springs Cabin..both times having to retreat back to our beginning TH due to loosing the correct trail route.

This third attempt on 5/30 was part-of a planned group day hike "2 of 3" from my recent Mogollon Rim-CABIN LOOP(5nt/6day) camping/hiking trip 5/28 to 6/2/08. It was important to complete this Barbershop Tr hike correctly this 3rd attempt since I had planned the much longer 17.2ml East Cabin Loop hike on 5/31, and with this much longer loop hike planned as a day hike and not a backpack, you really have very little extra time to roam around looking for trail routes.

For this shorter 5/30 hike, seven of us carpooled from our campsite 5mls down FR139 to the intersection of Rim Road FR300 and parked at the small TH parking area for the south end TH start of the Houston Brothers TR#171(was TR#18)at 7700elevation. We hiked north on #171 for 2.2mls to the west TH intersection of the Barbershop Trail. This 2.2ml section of the Houston Brothers Trail had significant shade areas with much up and down-in and out of numerous creek drainage areas. It was a very nice area to hike with the trail easy to follow. We reached the beginning Barbershop Trail intersection at 7550'elev. and took an east turn. With previous help and advise from HAZ-GPSjoe, 14 eyes concentrating on the correct trail route,7 different opinions, and me having attempted to hike this trail twice before, we correctly hiked in for 2.6mls through the confusing areas where Ken and I had previously screwed-up. I could only smile.. :) and shake my head.. :roll: after finally figuring-out where we went so wrong on our previous two attempts. Now I felt good about our planned 17.2ml East Cabin Loop Hike on 5/31!

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Did not actually see the spring flow, but did cross an obvious water seep at this Barbershop Springs GPS location.

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Did not actually see the spring flow, but did cross an obvious water seep at this Coyote Springs GPS location.
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May 29 2008
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Fred Haught Trail #141Payson, AZ
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Hiking13.00 Miles 525 AEG
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This was planned day hike 1 of 3 from a recent 5nt/6day(5/28-6/2) camping/hiking trip up in the historic CABIN LOOP AREA of our Mogollon Rim. Eight of us, driving up on different days, camped at a lovely, primitive camping spot at a cool 7300' elevation in the ponderosa pines: .5mls up FR139G from its intersection with FR139. From here we had great CABIN LOOP trail access being only a .6ml hike to the "Aspen Springs Cabin" at the Houston Brothers TR#171.

On Thurs-5/29 we awoke to a brisk 40F degrees with sunrise at 6:am. Fresh perked coffee with some of TJ's heated-buttered walnut streusel coffee cake got me going! Topped it off with some of my famous, fresh fruit salad with pineapple juice as a chaser! :D/

Four of us started hiking from our campsite at around 8:am heading over to Aspen Springs Cabin to connect with the Houston Bros Trail, then north for 1.5mls to Pinchot Cabin, the north end TH start of Fred Haught TR#141(was TR#22). The south end TH start of Fred Haught TR is 6.8 hiking miles SW at General Springs Cabin(.5mls drive up FR705 off Rim Road FR300, 12.0mls in on FR300 from Hwy#87). Note: As of this posting, the .5ml drive in on FR705 is "high clearance needed" due to some road washouts. The actual TH start is a little further down the road ~300 yards behind this old historic cabin.

On this beautiful blue sky, mid 70's degree day we really did enjoy this very peaceful and scenic ponderosa pines hike. The forest service has done a better job of defining this trail route than some of the other Cabin Loop Trails. At the Fred Haught Canyon intersection(signed) we took the .3mls detour along the canyon creek bed to have a lunch break at the old remnants of the historic Fred Haught Cabin. After lunch we headed back on trail SW with intentions of reaching the south end of the Fred Haught Tr but due to some knee concerns of one in our group, we turned around and headed back to camp within 3 miles of our goal. Now I have another good reason to return for a second hike in from the south end TH start at General Springs Cabin!

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Aspen Spring Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute
Aspen Springs is a "reliable" perennial spring.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Fred Haught Spring Quart per minute Quart per minute
Did not actually see the spring flow, but did cross an obvious water seep at this Fred Haught Springs GPS location.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Pinchot Spring Gallon per minute Gallon per minute
Pinchot Springs is a "reliable" perennial spring.
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Sep 08 2007
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Cabin Loop - Mogollon RimPayson, AZ
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Hiking17.80 Miles 2,200 AEG
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For a one day hike we knew that it would be crazy for us to try and complete this four trail Cabin Loop Hike (at ~24 published mls round trip) which would also include the driving time to/fm the PINCHOT CABIN TH. So, we decided to try the Modified Cabin Loop Hike- which included 3 of the 4 trails starting from the Pinchot Cabin TH (the Houston Brothers TR#171 to the Barbershop TR#91 to the U-Bar TR#28 to our beginning TH).

HAZ member "Belladonna Took" who's ~same and well done triplog posted 9/4/05 under our Barbershop Trail description still applies today, so I really can't add much valuable trail detail to this enjoyable loop hike and area, but to say: HEED what our HAZ Irv Kanode says-

"I highly recommend downloading the GPS route provided by Belladonna T and watching your progress on the GPS whenever you are following a road while at the same time keeping an eye out for cairns and blazes.
- Cairns along a road usually mean the trail makes a 90 degree turn off the road at that point. (Unfortunately, blazes are often few and far between on the portions of the trail that follow roads and immediately after turning points.)
- If you haven't seen a blaze in an eighth mile of road travel, you probably aren't on the trail."

It is very easy on these trails to become somewhat complacent while hiking and enjoying the nice scenery as you anticipate the next trail sign, cairn, Old Cabin and/or running spring to appear, but it can quickly become somewhat of a puzzle to piece it all together as you hike on and cross numerous numbered and un-numbered forest roads along your route.

We fell victim to this complacency while hiking about 2mls in on the Barbershop Trail just past its junction with Dane Canyon. Here, we crossed the short canyon and wet creek and proceeded to head up a rise, where the defined trail led us up and onto an un-named old logging road. Since the defined trail kind-of came up to this old logging road at a left angle, we just immediately, without hesitation, turned Left on this old road and continued for over a mile to its end before we realized that we had messed-up somewhere and lost the trail... It was now around 2:30pm and we had another 2.5mls to hike on the Barbershop Tr to reach its intersection with the 6.5ml U-Bar Tr WHEN/IF we could figure out where we messed-up... There were other Forest Roads in sight with a family camping! At ~2:45pm, we decided to just approach and ask this nice camping family (an ATV family) IF they would let us know what forest road this was, then we thought we could figure out the rest. Well, they knew where they were, but they did not understand our hiking maps, BUT luckily they knew how to drive to where the South U-Bar TH began at FR321/321C. My and Ken's first and hopefully last time riding on the back of ATVs! These were really very nice guys to interrupt their personal time and offer to take us to this South U-Bar TH/Tr start. Ken and I will always be grateful for their kindness and will always remember what it is like to try and "hold on" while riding on the back of an ATV at 35mph for 3.5mls down rutted, bumpy, mud puddle forest roads in the rain :yikes: !!..we will never be able to explain it in words! I had mud all the way up too and on my hat when we finally arrive the U-Bar at 3:10pm.. Now only 6.5 "unfamiliar" mls to hike! We finally arrived at our beginning TH and vehicle at 6:15pm(45min before dark) and then realized how far in on dirt roads we were & just how long it would be before we would arrive back home..which we finally did at 9:50pm.. Another great hiking day and wilderness adventure :D !

We will have to go back one day and start hiking from the East Barbershop TH at FR137 to figure out where we lost the trail..
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Aug 18 2007
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Houston Brothers Trail #171Payson, AZ
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Hiking7.00 Miles 600 AEG
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The USFS info on this trail is kinda wacked -it's 16.2 miles from 87, not 11! Also, since I was tired of driving those extra miles from PHX, I got off at where the trail REALLY begins; right on the Rim Road, where the nice "Houston Brothers Trail" sign is! It's at about exactly the 16 mile point from 87, on the side of the road away from the Rim just before the 139 turnoff. You can't miss it. There's a great place to park just past the sign on the Rim side.

Just on the Rim Road where the Houston Bros sign is, you'll see a nice big cairn and there it is, the trail. It's really a solid trail very well marked with cairns and those ancient cuts into the trees at about head height. A couple places the trail faded out buta quick scope for cairns always brought it right back.

This is great trail up and down through lots of lush, verdant little canyons -moss hanging on huge firs, mountain maples, some aspen, columbine, and lots of elk!
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U - Bar Trail #28Payson, AZ
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Hiking19.00 Miles 200 AEG
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Started out to do U-Bar but group decided to do a U-Bar - Barbershop - Houston Brothers Loop. This hike made me realize the meaning of "Where in the Blazes are we?". I would not do this hike without someone who had done it before and had a GPSJOE track on their GPS. U-Bar went fine. Barbershop had us looking for blazes and cairns. We sort of missed the Barbershop to Houston Brothers Transition and went along the road for a while before making the transition to Houston Brothers. We deviated a little from the Houston Brothers Trail to get back to the TH at the end. AOTC Hike lead by Don Mowry. With Tom & Lil who were training for a RtR on Wednesday and Emily who was recovering from a fractured ankle. I saw elk on the Barbership trail and Don saw elk on the Houston Brothers. Dinner at El Rancho in Payson after the hike. Great Hike Great Group. Slightly different readings on 3 GPS so this is the consensus. 19 miles 2,900 AEG
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Apr 30 2006
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Houston Brothers Trail #171Payson, AZ
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Hiking7.00 Miles 600 AEG
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nice area, pinchot cabin was all boarded up, apen springs was a nice area the trees have not started to bud there yet tho, flow from the springs was minimal, a lot of very large pines along the trail a few more than 2ft in diameter, the trees here are very green much different than along the opposite side of the rim near woods canyon, i did not notice any signs of ATVers that others had talked about, the trail is very very easy to follow, when you cross the road 171 i think it was the trail is to your left and dips down into the drainage on that side that was the only spot we had to look around for
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