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Houston Brothers Trail #171 - 39 members in 139 triplogs have rated this an average 4 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Jun 14 2020
jstovall
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51 male
 Joined May 18 2020
 Phoenix, AZ
Houston Brothers Trail #171Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Jun 14 2020
jstovall
Hiking7.49 Miles 2,029 AEG
Hiking7.49 Miles   6 Hrs   31 Mns   1.44 mph
2,029 ft AEG   1 Hour   18 Mns Break
 
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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout

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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout

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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout

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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout There are two springs here. The south one is just a pool and dripping. The north one is flowing over a gallon pm.
Jun 12 2020
Oregon_Hiker
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 Phoenix, AZ
Aspen and McFarland Springs - Mogollon Rim, AZ 
Aspen and McFarland Springs - Mogollon Rim, AZ
 
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Oregon_Hiker
Hiking3.00 Miles 262 AEG
Hiking3.00 Miles   2 Hrs   18 Mns   1.30 mph
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Grasshopper and I checked out several springs on the Mogollon Rim on this day. We drove as close as roads would allow to each spring and then hiked the short distance to the spring. Yes, we're getting old and lazy. :( The springs visited were Lower Buck Spring, Dane Spring, Aspen Spring and McFarland Spring. This triplog and photoset is for the longest hike of the day, an in-and-out 3 mile hike to Aspen and McFarland Springs from FR139G. All four springs were flowing with Dane Spring probably having the most flow from a pipe which would make it easy to fill water bottles.

The areas around both Aspen and McFarland Springs are quite scenic and both offer good places to camp for Backpackers on the Houston Bros Trail.
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Jun 12 2020
Grasshopper
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 Scottsdale, AZ
FR139G TH to Aspen Spr and McFarland Spr, AZ 
FR139G TH to Aspen Spr and McFarland Spr, AZ
 
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Grasshopper
Hiking2.90 Miles 315 AEG
Hiking2.90 Miles   3 Hrs      0.97 mph
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From a 7 night/8 day Mogollon Rim vehicle camping trip, R&R get away at 7435 feet, first hike day and number three of three short area hikes to check-out some local Perennial Springs.

At Perennial "Aspen Spring", this hike connects with Houston Brothers Trail #171 and continues up trail for ~1 mile to the recommended "off-trail" waypoint location (see my posted Gps Route) across Houston Draw for the short access to Perennial "McFarland Spring" and recommended Backpack Campsite area.

A very pleasant and scenic out and back short dayhike with history too!

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First time I have viewed this Perennial Spring with as much as a Gallon/minute flow.
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May 23 2020
Nobody01
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Houston Brothers Trail #171Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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Nobody01
Hiking10.10 Miles 1,153 AEG
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Just a quick solo overnight trip for me, my first here in Arizona, and I wanted to test some new gear. Not having the confidence to adventure solo in areas untraveled and having an excessive pack weight, I decided on Houston Brothers. This was familiar landscape for me and I have hiked this trail a few times prior. Unfortunately a sprain and tumble cut my trip to Pinchot Cabin a bit short and I ended up camping at McFarland Spring. I was pleasantly surprised by the lack of people on the trail. Still fairly busy, I expected it to be much busier than normal. The under story seems to be coming back nicely, wildflowers are starting to come up, and I had an encounter with a decently sized Cinnamon Black Bear. Overall it was a good trip, despite the injury, and I hope to return this summer to complete the east loop. 8)
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May 11 2020
CannondaleKid
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 Mesa, AZ
Houston Brothers Trail #171Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar May 11 2020
CannondaleKid
Hiking9.00 Miles 950 AEG
Hiking9.00 Miles   3 Hrs   58 Mns   2.37 mph
950 ft AEG      10 Mns Break15 LBS Pack
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Tracey's banked PTO was nearing use-it-or-lose-it so what better time for a camping trip into cooler country. After realizing we had never car camped anywhere along the Rim it was time to remedy that situation.

Shouldn't be too big a deal to choose a campsite and three hikes nearby, should it?
Yeah right... even after filtering out the hikes we had done, thanks to the plethora of hike Guides posted on HAZ the decision was not an easy one. Ok, let's throw darts so-to-speak and choose an actual trail for hike #1 then pick two more close by.

Houston Brothers would be hike #1. It was just right... a nice out-and-back along the very green Houston Draw.
Coming up on one hour into the hike I spotted a very-brown black bear, maybe 1-2 years old? Which of course brought back memories of our bear encounter two years ago... memories of the PTSD kind for Tracey.

What do we do? she asked. Turn back?
No way was I about to turn back this soon, besides it's a few hundred yards away. Let's just see what it does and take it from there. After a few zoomed photos the bear popped its head up and scooted off at a fast lope (more flashbacks for Tracey) up the slope perpendicular to the trail. Ok now, the bear is gone, it's time to move on. Although our senses would be on high alert the rest of the hike the balance would be drama-free.

Within a few minutes of the bear sighting we saw a group of 5 hikers who appeared to have turned around about the same distance from the bear as we had been from the other direction and we wondered if:
#1 May the bear have spooked because it got wind of them (we had been down-wind)
#2 Had they had seen the bear and if so, is that why they turned around?
We'll never know if #1, but it turned out the hikers were unaware of the bear and had simply turned back to check out a drainage east of Aspen Springs. They had camped at the Pinchot Cabin and were just out for a leisurely day-hike.

We made short work of checking out Aspen Springs and the still-standing barn(?) before continuing on to the Pinchot Cabin. We spent even less time there, just taking a short walk to the outhouse because Tracey always has to check out what's under-the-seat, which is usually why she never wants to use an outhouse... but she just has to take look. But there really was nothing to see here.

Heading back we must have been a bit spaced-out because we missed our planned shady, a rock to sit on and a breeze spot for our lunch break. Oh well, it was only an extra a couple miles before we found a suitable substitute.

The rest of the return trip was uneventful... a bit warm when in the direct sun but enough shade to balance it out. A nice hike to start off with.
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Jul 13 2019
Anekantavada
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38 male
 Joined Mar 07 2013
 Chandler, AZ
Houston Brothers Trail #171Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Jul 13 2019
Anekantavada
Hiking5.20 Miles 450 AEG
Hiking5.20 Miles   3 Hrs      1.73 mph
450 ft AEG20 LBS Pack
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What a great day exploring the springs. I found a cave like spring, unmarked on maps and the pooch enjoyed the water. What a great area!!! For some reason they have cut multiple roads into the draw and deposited haphazard piles of stones. I assume they are for erosion control. Its changed the character a bit since my last visit 2013
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Jun 29 2019
ALMAL
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Cabin Loop - Mogollon RimPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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ALMAL
Backpack26.20 Miles 950 AEG
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Decided to hit the Cabin Loop when it isn't raining for a change. Marched up the Col. Devin at 6:30am and hit the rim road down to Houston Bros. Quick stop at the B-shop turn off, then down to a favorite water spot for a refill. Some folks were camped at Aspen spring but Pinchot was empty and quiet. Continued on down the road to the turnoff for the lake and hiked into an empty spot. There were some folks camped a bit further down, but I like the first little spot. Hung the hammock and chilled, fished a little, caught 1 rainbow and lost two others on downed trees. I spoke to others that were catching "stockers" too. Quiet night, but the sun comes up early these days. The washout on FR95 is a pain. Fred Haught was quiet on the return as well.
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Jun 13 2019
Grasshopper
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Houston Bros Tr Loop via U-Bar Tr-FR139GPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Jun 13 2019
Grasshopper
Hiking3.50 Miles 335 AEG
Hiking3.50 Miles   2 Hrs   25 Mns   1.68 mph
335 ft AEG      20 Mns Break
 
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On my recent 6nt/7day Mogollon Rim- Camping/Hiking trip (6/12 to 6/18), for my first full day outing this was Oregon_Hiker and my first planned hike stop of three to check out the perennial status of local springs in this area.

This short loop hike takes the back way into the scenic, historic, Aspen Spring meadow area, perennial Aspen Spring, and the historic Aspen Spring Guard Cabin complex, then north onto the Houston Brothers Trail #171 to perennial Pinchot Spring and on to the historic Pinchot Guard Cabin area connecting with the U-Bar Trail #28 back to FR139G to complete the loop.

This was my 3rd time to hike this very pleasant, short loop, and this visit with the most lush greenery and water flowing from perennial Aspen Spring, perennial Pichot Spring, and within Houston Draw drainage.

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Sep 20 2018
bretinthewild
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 Phoenix, AZ
Cabin Loop - Mogollon RimPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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bretinthewild
Backpack23.00 Miles 950 AEG
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Drove up to Pinchot Cabin on a Thursday. We stayed there Thursday and Friday nights. On Friday we took a day hike over to Fred Haught Spring and Cabin. There's a nice camping spot there I want to try one day. On Saturday we took off clockwise on U-Bar to a camping spot near Coyote Spring, just off Barbershop Trail to the west of U-Bar. We stayed there Saturday night. Finished the loop off on Sunday via Barbershop and Houston Brothers. Really fun relaxing weekend. Love this place.
Aug 31 2018
OdinWiski
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 Chandler, AZ
East Cabin Loop, AZ 
East Cabin Loop, AZ
 
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OdinWiski
Backpack17.78 Miles 2,600 AEG
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We had a late start and got to U-Bar and 321C at 1300 Friday afternoon. Hiked CCW to Aspen Spring to set up camp. Saturday morning took our time starting out to continue on Houston Brothers to Barbershop. Got back to our car after noon. It was surprisingly quiet on the loop and we only ran into 2 other backpackers doing the same loop clockwise. All the springs were flowing nicely from the recent monsoon.
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Jul 24 2018
markthurman53
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 Tucson, Arizona
Fred Haught Houston Brothers Loop, AZ 
Fred Haught Houston Brothers Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jul 24 2018
markthurman53
Hiking19.60 Miles 2,535 AEG
Hiking19.60 Miles   9 Hrs   3 Mns   2.73 mph
2,535 ft AEG   1 Hour   52 Mns Break20 LBS Pack
 
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My original plan was to spend three days hiking near Payson doing a loop on the Bearfoot/Pine trail and a couple in the Webber Canyon area. The weather was too hot in Payson so I opted for some hikes on the Cabin Loop Trail. The high temps were in the mid 80's, although in the sun it was a bit hotter (and Humid). The Cabin Loop trails are fairly level even though overall there is a 2500 foot AEG. Started this hike at the Rim Road and the Houston Brothers trail head and proceeded in a clockwise direction. I chose this direction because I wanted to do the General Crook Trail early in the morning so I wouldn't have to do it in the heat of the day.
Following the General Crook Trail wasn't too difficult even though I got off trail a few times. With the V markers and visible remnants of the road I was able to do OK. The GPS Route I downloaded was a big help. Toward General Spring I lost all V markers but I followed the GPS route. I noticed later on that the V markers enter General Springs Cabin from the south along the road from the rim road. Not sure what route is correct but I'm guessing the GPS route.
The Fred Haught Trail from General Spring Cabin to almost Fred Haught Spring follows the same trail as the Arizona trail. This trail is easy walking and can easily do 3 miles per hour if it wasn't for the fact that it is just so scenic that you are constantly stopping to take in the scenery or take pictures. Unlike when I did this trail in the spring and the creek was running the only water was in pools. There were plenty of dewberries to nibble on along the trail. The remaining part of the Fred Haught Trail to Pinchot Cabin was easy to follow. After crossing over Bear Canyon I realized I will have to come back and check out this Canyon. I saw some GPS routes posted that go up this canyon, I assume they are routes and not trails.
Pinchot Cabin is at the junction of the Fred Haught, Houston Brothers and U - Bar Trails, all of which are part of the Cabin Loop Trail System. I arrived here at about 1230 and took a half hour lunch break before heading south on the Houston Brothers Trail. The trail along Houston Draw is easy to follow and almost as scenic as General Springs Canyon. Aspen Spring and Cabin along with McFarland Spring are encountered in the first couple miles. There are a couple of riparian areas that are fenced off to keep man and wildlife out so they can study the affect wildlife has on these areas. Near McFarland spring one of these fenced off areas was breached by some animals so the study may be compromised. Looks like they made a jail break except they were busting in. Draws in my mind are short canyons but Houston Draw is long or at least it seemed that way, seemed to go on forever. Since the draw head up toward the south you might say it has a Long Southern Draw. Once out of Houston Draw the trail follows along Dick Heart ridge crossing over countless ravines that dip toward Bear Canyon, gets kind of tiring after a while. I wandered why they just didn't follow along on the ridge and skip all the ups and downs but if they did that it would be just a trail that follows a road (FRS139). 139 is just off to the east a couple hundred yards.
This is a really nice but long loop trail. Probably would be better if done in the spring when it isn't so hot and humid but either way well worth the time. Driving the Rim Road to the trail head at sunrise is also part of the experience, Never get tired of the views. I quit counting Elk after hitting 30 (didn't literally hit them), about a quarter of them were this years model.
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Jul 14 2018
chumley
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 Tempe, AZ
East Cabin Loop, AZ 
East Cabin Loop, AZ
 
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chumley
Hiking17.80 Miles 2,615 AEG
Hiking17.80 Miles   6 Hrs   25 Mns   3.04 mph
2,615 ft AEG      34 Mns Break
 
1st trip
With the monsoon in an active pattern, I wanted to do this one early in the day and avoid any potential lightning so we drove up Friday night for a pleasant camp with jonnybackpack and the shed hunter. It rained for a few hours overnight and the morning was overcast and cool. We were on trail at 7. By 8 it started drizzling and lasted an hour or so, adding to the already vibrant greens from the recent rain.

Over the course of the day we spotted 16 or 18 elk in about 5 different encounters, plus two encounters with large and loud mammals that went unseen. I saw a big redtail near Aspen Spring too.

It was surprising how few people were up on the rim. All the big campsites were empty, and we didn't encounter a single hiker on the entire loop. A rarity for sure in summer here. Only twice did we hear the slight drone of a quad driving on an adjacent road, but that's also pretty impressive given the proximity this trail is to so many motor vehicle routes.

The sun came out around 11, but only lasted an hour before clouds began to build. We made it back to the truck before any rain hit, though the rim views revealed a few showers in the area.

While the cabin loop doesn't offer the euphoria of trudging the road that climbs Mt. Ord, it allows you to cover a bunch of miles over diverse landscape in a fairly short amount of time. Somehow this was my first hike on the rim since snow season, and it was nice to be back!
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Just a few spots with the big yellow daisy looking flowers.

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Dry at trail crossing. Pools visible downstream 100 yards or so.

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Plenty of water, light flow, good size pools

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Light trickle of clear water.
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Jul 14 2018
John9L
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 Scottsdale, AZ
East Cabin Loop, AZ 
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Hiking17.80 Miles 2,615 AEG
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The rim was closed due to fire danger for the past month or so and finally reopened a few days prior. Monsoon kicked in strong and the area was saturated and fires were allowed. So Chumley and I got organized and drove up on Friday night. We arrived at FR300 on the west side and made the drive in with plans to car camp near the middle of the Cabin Loop where we would meet Jon & Matt. The drive in went well and it was eerie how few people we saw. We assumed most people were not ready for car camping after the forest was closed for so long. We continued in and eventually pulled in to our preplanned camp where we met Matt. Jon would join us an hour or two later. The rest of the night was spent enjoying a campfire and an adult beverage.

We started early on Saturday because the afternoon called for thunderstorms. We said goodbye to Jon & Matt and then drove over to the Barbershop TH. We started in and opted for a CCW loop. Along the way we saw a lot of Elk with several babies. They appeared startled by us. I guess they were getting use to no people with the closure. We made the loop and it went really well. Both of us have hiked portions of the Cabin Loop so I won’t go into details. I really enjoy this area and the hiking is very easy. We eventually completed our loop and packed up and headed back to Phoenix. It was a nice short getaway. Thanks Chumley for planning and driving.
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Apr 15 2018
emilystardust
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 Phoenix, AZ
Cabin Loop - Mogollon RimPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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emilystardust
Hiking21.00 Miles 950 AEG
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We went up Houston Brothers, over to U-Bar and back across Barbershop. There was a lot of criss-crossing with old roads on U-Bar, so we got off-track a few times and had to backtrack to locate the trail. We only saw a few other folks the whole time. One was a group with an off-leash, advancing, aggressive dog. Not sure why they made little effort to grab the dog or call it back and instead let their other dog off-leash too after they saw us. It ended without incident, and I don't have dogs, so I don't know what proper etiquette is but I am pretty sure it isn't that. :-k I would possibly do the loop counter-clockwise next time, as the Houston Brothers section was the easiest and I would have preferred to end with that.
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Feb 10 2018
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 Mesa, AZ
Cabin Loop - Mogollon RimPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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daend4u
Hiking18.70 Miles 950 AEG
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This area of AZ is incredibly breath taking! What an experience to pull us away from the sprawling city and enclosed dark saloons we find ourselves frequenting. The flipside though was this trip was only possible this time of the year probably due to the ridiculously dry season. The roads were in great condition from Payson to getting on FR-300 and FR-95. Got to come back with my 2wd hatchback badged up with snow and mud tastefully splattered across the body. Coming up the forest roads was peaceful with panoramic sights nonstop. Just a couple of cars were seen on the way up and looking out over the rim was a must.

Once at the Houston Brothers TH we excitedly hopped out and took off down the trail. We briefly surveyed the semi frozen creek and cabin planning to indulge there on the way out. The only people we met on our loop was a vibrant group of 4 on their way out about a mile into Houston brothers. The forest, the space, the patches of snow on the ground was another world compared to our usual day to day trek. I loved the trees towering over us, hearing them grunt and moan swaying in the wind. I loved hearing the rare crunch of snow under our boots, and then hoping the moisture didn’t seep through my roll back boots. We even saw a herd of cow Elk stealthily making their way across the trail. Checking Barbershop Spring most of it was snow and there was only standing water at what I assumed was the source. We decided to pitch just east of Coyote Spring, which was in the same condition just a shallow pool of standing water. As the light faded it definitely cooled, but with a small fire and surprisingly filling good to-go meal, by the time we tucked in we were certainly at ease.

COLD. Rising just after sun up there were tiny crystals of condensation that had frozen over on our rain fly. Once outside of the tent we were back on our way waiting for the warmth to return to our toes. Probably could have stepped up to a full cushion DarnTough here, but after about a quarter mile down U Bar it was back to basking in this winter wonderland. Dane Spring was running pure straight out of the pipe and Barbershop Canyon creek was glistening and running feely through patches of ice. Completing the loop we took in the history of Pinchot Cabin and signed out the trail log. There is no question to whether you should hike out here. Thanks for the time can’t wait to be back!

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Mix of snow and frozen glass over the top but plenty of flowing patches to draw from.

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Mostly snow,small standing water pools

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Flowing strong and clear through the pipe

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Semi frozen but flowing
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 Mesa, AZ
Cabin Loop - Mogollon RimPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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DarthStiller
Hiking20.10 Miles 3,325 AEG
Hiking20.10 Miles   8 Hrs   55 Mns   2.40 mph
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Since the next 5 Sundays will involve the Steeler game kickoffs at 10am, I wanted to get in a longer hike before my usual fall hiking lull :lone: . This seemed like a good one to tackle. Labor Day weekend meant Monday off, the weather is getting even cooler up there compared to Phoenix, and the days are still long enough for daylight not to be an issue. This also turned out to be my first 20 mile dayhike, so new horizons are still being broached in my progression through middle age : rambo : .

On the ride up, just outside of Payson we arrived at what seemed like moments after a roadkill. It was still dark and we arrived to a pickup pulled over at the same time that a DPS officer did. He pulled over to assist and that's when we noticed the elk bull laying on the left side of the road. Actually he was in the turning lane to turn left into that subdivision just south of Payson. Even on its side, it was at least 3'+ tall. Massive. I got a quick glimpse of the front of the truck in the dark as we moved on and it was not pretty :o .

Once we arrived at the Buck Springs TH after some confusion as to where it is exactly, we saw some wild turkeys clearing out. After that, the only wildlife we saw during the hike were the Kaibab squirrels, with their darker coats and pointy ears. We also noticed the "visitor center" that's been tagged with a HAZ decal, as well as an AZ Wilderness Brewing sticker. The list is short as to which HAZ member may be responsible for this :lol: . ( :-k @chumley ?? :M2C: )

From Buck Springs, we took the Barbershop Trail to the Houston Brothers Trail, and completed the loop coming back on the U Bar Trail. At the start of the hike, my camera wasn't working. when I turned it on, the display screen was totally black, which resulted in a black picture. After an hour or so, it was ok. I think the bumpy ride in on FR300 may have been the cause. The camera is over 8 years old, so I might be due for a new one soon :DANCE: .

The Barbershop Trail goes thru several canyons, resulting in a less than level hike than what I was expecting. Houston Brothers started with some similar ups and downs, but then stayed level along the extended meadow/riparian zone that went on for several miles. This was probably my favorite part of the hike. the meadow(s) gave some really nice views, the trail was extremely easy to hike, giving us our best times per mile :D . We stopped and checked out the Aspen Spring cabin area quickly, then moved on up to and past Pinchot to the hill above and had lunch.

the hike back after lunch was beyond our halfway point for the day, but I think it took longer to do than the first 11+ miles we did. Going through Barbershop and Dane Canyons had a lot to do with this, as well as the fatigue setting in as we approached 20 miles. It was slow going coming out of both canyons, but nothing too bad. coming back on McClintock Ridge after Dane Canyon gave some relief as it was mostly level, but at that point, the fatigue kind of neutralized that advantage. The last ascent out of Jaeger Canyon along Barbershop at the very end of the hike felt like murder. No pain or cardio difficulties, just my legs didn't want to move anymore.

The temperature was moderately warm, forecasted at 77 for a high and that seemed about right. Frequent breezes throughout the day made things pleasant. Shade was prominent for most of the hike, almost making the hood on my hoodie hiking shirt unnecessary. I did put it up after awhile during some sun exposed sections to cover my neck and ears. Wally spent most of the hike wearing his backpack backwards since he hiked the day before and had some chafing issues on his back from that. I think between him wearing his backpack backwards and my hoodie and longer beard these days, we made quite the odd looking pair. I'm pretty sure one little girl was giggling as their group walked the other way on the trail. Fortunately, we're old guys now, so we give no :pk: s.

I finished all 7 liters of my water with about 3 miles to go, but the cooler temperatures and breezes helped that not be an issue. I did immediately drink a half liter of Propel on arrival at the car. The ride back resulted in the absence of the usual several bathroom stops I usually need to make as a result of defensive overhydration :sweat: .

On the ride in we went through Pine and Strawberry. For the ride back, I decided to keep along FR300 eastbound to 260. It was about the same either way. FR300 was mostly ok until the last few miles, at which point the traffic became much heavier from the holiday crowds. There was so much dust that it was difficult to see. There were two extremely slow drivers that created a backup of 6 cars and counting, and they refused to pull over. At the long stretches of the road, the cars one by one began to pass them in the foglike clouds of dust. And still they refused to pull over :pout: . Once we passed them, it seemed like everyone was pulling over at one of the vista view pullouts. About a mile later, we passed the road for Woods Canyon lake and FR300 from there to 260 is paved, thankfully :y: .

Other than the drive out, the crowds weren't too bad. The trails were not very crowded at all. We saw a lot of campsites and people hanging out at the various camping spots, but it wasn't bad. There was a cave south of Aspen Springs that had some people in front of making a photo op not convenient, but no biggie. Saw the usual traffic and parked vehicles at the road crossings and heard the occasional faint rumble of ATVs along the trail since all the roads are very close by. All in all, not bad for the last big hurrah holiday for the summer.

Once we got to Payson, it was after 6pm, so Wally and I grabbed a quick dinner at Jack in the Box. Dinner was finished in under 10 minutes, and without conversation or talking of any sort :-$ . French fries were devoured with both hands, which I think made us each resemble the Cookie Monster as we ate.

The ride back with the traffic seemed normal for a Sunday. I was hoping the traffic might be a little lighter since Monday was a holiday, but not really. in fact, people seemed to be driving faster than they usually do. Got home just after 8pm, the end of a very long and satisfying day. :zzz:
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Cabin Loop - Mogollon RimPayson, AZ
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Got started at Gen springs cabin about 4pm Friday. Marched into a nice campsite just off trail near the remnants of Fred Haught cabin. Some folks were camped nearby back where the trail pulls away from Gen Springs. Good water flow coming out of the spring below the cabin site. A bit of rain came about midnight. Packed up early Saturday and headed for Pinchot cabin. No body there but a warm campfire remained. Continued on up Houston Brothers, the springs are flowing nicely, lots of good water. Made a left on Barbershop. Passed a few people going the other way. Water in Barbershop and Dane both flowing along the Barbershop trail. I like the campsites in the big meadow just passed Dane. Passed a few more folks by the U-bar turnoff. Stopped at Dane spring which was flowing about like a garden hose full on. Considered camping here, too much broken glass around, a definite turn off for me. A sure sign its close to a road where people can park and walk in quickly. Oh wait! I hear some now, time to move on. I really like the next section of trail leading away and down into Dane Canyon. Folks camped at both Dane and several groups camped at Barbershop crossings. Good water at both crossings. Gathered extra water here. Continued on up and across 139 and settled into a spot for the night. Started early Sunday and rolled down 95B into Pinchot. Watered up and kept on towards Fred Haught springs again for a final water and snack spot. Passed at least 20 people hiking in during my last 2 miles out. Yes, the rim road was a bit crazy, but likely nothing like it was today.
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I made a last minute trip up to see some of the water along the cabin loop. I arrived at Washington Park at 6:45am to find the parking lot almost full, and a group of runners getting ready to launch a training run for the Mogollon Monster. I started first, most of them passed me on the way up. Great weather until about 3:30pm when I reached Barbershop canyon on the U-Bar trail. I scrambled for some dry firewood which could be hidden from the rain under the large rock there. I managed to get my tent set up on a slanted spot just before the rain came. Rained for about 2 hours solid. It let up just long enough to cook some food about 6:30, and I got a fire started, then it rained again for several more hours as I called it a night early.
Clear skies Sunday and a nice hike back to General Springs, Fred Haught still has wet crossings in several places.
The real fun began when I made it back down to the parking lot. The parking lot was fine, but the last half mile of the road coming in is absolutely trashed. I spent an hour moving rocks, logs, and leveling some sandy spots before I could make it out. I've never seen that black plastic before, must have been a real gully washer Saturday afternoon... The one picture I took does not tell the whole story. The road is seriously a mess!
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East Cabin Loop via Pinchot Cabin, AZ 
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My daughter Natalie wanted to go camping. I decided the cabin loop area would provide some nice camping and some relatively easy hiking as well. We drove to the trailhead near Pinchot Cabin via rim rd 300 and fr 95.

We found a nice campsite within a quarter mile of the trailhead off fr 96. A fire had burned through here within the last few years. Enough pine needles have fallen to cover the charcoal. Grass and flowers are growing under the tall pines. Looks healthy to me.

We set up camp then hiked to the trailhead and down to Pinchot cabin. Houston Brothers trail looked nice so we started our hike here in the late afternoon. Much of the trail was shaded which was nice. Flowing water, pines, and green were the theme.

When we reached Aspen Springs there was a large group of backpackers there. Beautiful location. It was getting late so we turned around here and made it back to camp at sunset. The next morning we started up U-Bar but Natalie wasn't feeling good so we called it day early.

Wild flowers are out. We saw a turkey, elk, and colorful western tanager.

We returned via fr 95 instead of taking the 300 back. Nicer road. Recommended entry route. Fun trip. :)
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