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Aug 02 2009
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Overland TrailAlpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
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Forgot to bring the camera. Mtn biked from Apache Vista Trailhead to Rudd Knoll and back. This is a dreamy ride, very easy for the intermediate rider, but fun. For a beginner, such as my companion today, there are a few little rock gardens and little ups and downs to improve your skills.

Lots of really green meadows back there in the woods. It's really pretty. Usually I see elk when I ride this section. Forest Service hasn't touched it in a long time, which in this case is a good thing! The trail was built too wide and attracted ATVers. Now it is growing narrower and less-defined. I would like to see it maintained as singletrack if trail crews do go in there.

Last year we screamed and hollered at them to do something to keep the blinkin' ATVers off the trail. I know that the District Ranger himself went up there late last summer to check out all the damage we'd reported. Now there are no new ATV tracks along this 5-mile section, so presumably the FS guys fixed some fences and added new signs.
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Aug 01 2009
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Water Canyon to Sipe, AZ 
Water Canyon to Sipe, AZ
 
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This was one dirt road mountain bike ride I had thought about doing for a long time. From my house in Eagar I rode up Water Canyon to Milligan Valley to Sipe Ranch and back home again. Turned out to be about 31 miles. It's pretty steep going up Water Canyon but the rest of the route made it all worthwhile. Once I had turned off onto Milligan Valley Road (FR 85) it got pretty dreamy, with a lot of gradual coasting downhills through the forest, wildflowers, etc. I saw no vehicles once I was on FR 85. One of my rest stops was next to Rudd Creek, where there is a car campsite, a running creek, and lots of flowers. I saw only one group of people camping all along Milligan Valley Road, though. They were camped next to Benton Creek. At the back gate of Sipe White Mountain Wildlife Area my odometer read 20 miles. Stopping at Sipe for a break, I then rode the Sipe road back to 180/191. I took a detour on a side road I knew about, that would get me back to Saffel Canyon and Water Canyon, but I turned around, deciding to do that on another day. Back on the Sipe road, reaching the highway, I went straight across and caught the old highway down to Eagar. You take the first left through a barbed wire gate. It almost looks like someone's driveway because there's a new house up there on top of Picnic Hill. The old highway has slowly been reverting to dirt for many years, but still has some pavement and painted lines.

Directions: Starting in Eagar, ride up Water Canyon Road (FR 285) to Milligan Valley Road (FR 85), (a 7-mile, 1000-foot grind from my house near 260.) Turning left to Milligan Valley, follow it to Sipe. There is one Y turn a few miles in that you have to watch for (not the first one that goes to private property.) The right hand of the Y says 85A. Take the left, which is unsigned and is heading slightly down hill.

Eventually, after passing the nice old log cabin, you'll get to the back gate of Sipe White Mountain Wildlife Area, owned by Game and Fish. Beautiful place. Then on out to 180. Crossing straight across 180, take the first left through a gate. This will put you onto the old highway down to Eagar. Once you are back on 180 you can ride the ATV path alongside the highway--fun bumps!
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Jul 30 2009
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Government TrailAlpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
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Ok, so we didn't follow the Government Trail exactly, because we were with Dave Denali, who lives in Nutrioso, and knows the mountain. But we did follow some of it. We also boulder hopped up a steep lava flow/scree slope known as "The Phoenix" because from Nutri it looks kind of bird-like, with wings and a head. (See photos.) We also didn't start at any of the mentioned trailheads for the Govt. trail but on a very old road you can barely see and there is no parking by it. I could find it again, I guess! Anyway, it was a neat hike mostly off trail, until we hooked up with the upper part of the Government Trail and then onto the main trail to the tower.

The group of kids in the photos is Apache Rescue Team, a local youth group that does search and rescue and also first aid at mountain bike races. It's always fun hiking with a bunch of lively teens!
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Jul 19 2009
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Thompson Trail #629Alpine, AZ
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Yes, I know I posted this trail yesterday, but notice that this time it's mtn. biking instead of hiking. This place gets addictive! It's only about 30 miles from my house, too!

Mtn. biking this trail almost deserves a whole new separate page on HAZ, because, since you're not on the hiking trail along the river, but on the old Apache Railroad grade (although it's not the official RR Grade Trail) which is up on the side of the hill, paralleling the hiking trail for about 3 miles. But eventually you end up in a different place, leaving the West Fork of the Black River, still heading more or less south. It really isn't the same trail at all, but it has the same name.

After a few miles it splits at a big metal gate. We took the right fork, just before the gate, which went west, up a creek, which is unnamed on my map. The RR grade is the left fork and goes east and then south. Topo map is Big Lake South 7.5'. (TH is on Big Lake North.)

It was very pretty and it was fun, but not all that challenging if you are a very good rider. It was the first time my husband had actually been mountain biking, in fact, so it's good for beginners. (I would suggest if you are a beginner it wouldn't be your first trail ride, though, due to the altitude of around 8900.) Hubby has a "comfort bike" but it worked fine for this trail, except for a couple of really steep parts, which are very short, so he walked them. These two steep parts are where there used to be a trestle which has been removed.

It's a mostly gradual uphill climb, and on the way back you can get going VERY fast if you want to!

I left my pack behind for some stupid reason and had to ride back, all uphill, to get it, about 2.5 miles! I rode very fast on the way back. So that was fun, too.

I didn't have a map with me, and after about 4 miles from the TH I could see the summit of Baldy was not far off. Then the trail seemed to end at almost 5 miles. I rode a little further, just following a sort of game trail and the road berm started up again. I looked at the map later and saw I would eventually come back out onto FR 116. Since the TH is on 116, I guess a loop could be made, but I don't like riding big gravel roads.

From the time we started down the trail to when we got back to the car WE SAW NO ONE! There are people all over by Big Lake, and on all the gravel roads, hauling boats and trailers, or riding ATVs, but we had this place to ourselves!
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Jul 18 2009
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Thompson Trail #629Alpine, AZ
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I have never seen flowers like this! It's truly amazing there right now. In fact, I think I'll take the mtn. bike and go back today--I'll ride the old railroad grade along the same route, which is open to horses and mtn. bikers. The single-track trail is signed "hikers only." The single track keeps to the creek, whereas the RR grade is a little bit up on the side of the hill. It's the old Apache Railway, which served the sawmill in McNary, back when there used to be logging. There also used to be cattle grazing, which was discontinued fairly recently, I guess. It sure does improve the biodiversity when there are no cattle. I think we may eventually have berry bushes again! There are small ones coming up!

We didn't do the whole hike because my companion is somewhat disabled, and needed to turn around after a couple of miles. However, since he walks very slowly, I was able to take a lot of photos. Going slowly like that you don't get much exercise but you do see more. If I'd had a better camera I could have gotten a classic photo of a Great Blue Heron. Anyway, I did what I could to show the area. Flowers I can identify are: Mountain Helenium (those big yellow daisies), Monkshead (those tall blue ones) Wild Roses. I don't know what the pink ones are, hope someone can tell me. Please comment if you know.
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Jun 23 2009
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East Fork of the Little Colorado, AZ 
East Fork of the Little Colorado, AZ
 
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Mileage given is round trip. This was a very little hike up the actual East Fork of the Little Colorado, a non-official trail. It is very near the official trail of the same name (see linked hikes.) It seems that everyone who lives in Greer knows this trail because on a Tuesday we saw a whopping 8 other hikers! That's a lot of hikers for around here, especially on a Tuesday! It is absolutely gorgeous, while it lasts. It tends to die out and become pretty much bushwhacking, although I was told you can follow the drainage to the rim if you are persistent enough. I was with a group of retired ladies who hike on Tuesdays, and they weren't up for the scramble. But at least now I know it's there.

I can't tell you exactly how to get to it because we went through several people's back yards. You take the road to the Montlure Summer Camp and there is a link to this trail near the camp. I was told you can also start at the regular, official, East Fork Trailhead, near the end of 373, but don't go up the switchbacks, just cross the river and they say you can find it??? I will have to go check that out.

The official trail does not follow the creek but the unofficial one does. The unofficial trail just follows the East Fork, the east side of Amberon Point (see Big Lake topo map) whereas the "Official" trail switchbacks up the west side of Amberon Point, tops over the rim, goes to Marble Spring and East Baldy Trail. In addition to Big Lake topo you should use Greer topo.

I tried some different settings on my camera, and did use flash on a couple, as suggested. But it tended to give a washed out look, such as when I took photos of ferns on a log in the shade. Perhaps I should have changed the exposure setting as well??? Thanks for previous suggestions, y'all!

(Edit, post Wallow Fire, 2011. This trail will never be the same in my lifetime.)
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Jun 17 2009
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South Fork Trail #97Alpine, AZ
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Ok, so I'm a wuss. I do have a really nice bike, (it oughta be for as much as I spent on it!) and every summer I spend some time slowly rebuilding my riding skills and the particular fitness you need for mtn. biking. There are lots of trails I like to ride. But most of them are kind of easy, such as Indian Springs and RR Grade.

But I never ride South Fork Trail because it has EDGES (oh, horrors!) and also some sudden ups and downs and big rocks to either go over or somehow get your pedals in between. You know what I mean if you ride.

I went with my friend, who rides a single speed and kicks butt, but he was nice enough to help me with some of my technical difficulties. I don't know why I have so much trouble with this every summer. I know, I know, not enough "bike time." Eventually I do start to "get it." He says I should ride that trail at least once a week and I will get a lot better.
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Jun 16 2009
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Rudd Creek - Sipe to Milligan, AZ 
Rudd Creek - Sipe to Milligan, AZ
 
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A continuation of our exploration of Rudd Creek. Mileage given is round trip. It's a beautiful hike, first through a ranch belonging to Game and Fish Dept., and then following an overgrown dirt road along a creek in the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest. We had done the lower section from the highway to Sipe earlier this spring. We saw no one, saw no human or ATV tracks, only those of elk, deer and raccoon. I don't think many people at all go there. We did spook up one cow elk who had been drinking from the creek. Lots of trees: narrowleaf cottonwood, ponderosa pine, etc. I wish my camera was of higher quality, but you can at least get the idea of the area from the photos.

This middle section is reached by going to Sipe White Mountain Wildlife Area (Game and Fish Department property, open to the public). Directions: From Eagar, take U.S. Highway 180/191 south towards Alpine; you'll see the turnoff signs on top of a mesa two miles from Eagar. (From Springerville, follow US 60 through town, watching for signs for US 180/191 Alpine. Turn right at this Y intersection. Follow this road until it connects with 180/191, turn left. Go about 2 miles to the top of the really big hill, where you will see the signs for Sipe, which will be a right turn onto a dirt road.) Follow the improved dirt road five miles to the property, turning right at a Y. Go all the way in to the dead end where there is the ranch house/tourist area and park there. Walk past the barn, the ranch buildings and several houses and out the other side to a huge open field. Walk generally along the creek, which is partially fenced with electric fencing, across the big field, heading generally southwest to a notch in the mountains. (About 1 mile.) You'll get to the Rudd Creek Cabin first. From there, you hop the fence into the National Forest and keep following the creek. An easy place to hop the fence is where PVC pipe has been placed on the top wire to help the elk jump it. There is an old dirt road you can follow, which crosses and recrosses the creek, plus there is a path along the old irrigation ditch.

Once you have hopped that fence you will most likely leave all tourists, volunteer docents, other hikers, and birders behind! When we arrived there yesterday the ranch area was also overrun with orange-jumpsuited state prisoners, doing some weedeating. But you'll leave all that behind you when you hike Rudd Creek.

Maps: You'd best have them. You'll need the Nelson Reservoir 7.5' quad to start with and then the Eagar 7.5' quad. If you continue on to the south, (further than we did,) you will also need the Rudd Knoll quad. These are usually available in Springerville at Western Drug, in the gun department.
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Jun 03 2009
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South Fork Trail #97Alpine, AZ
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We entered from the side again, from FR 8070A, which is accessible off of Big Lake Highway. We hiked down that road from the locked gate. It is less than a mile to the creek from there. We hiked up to the second crossing. My husband wasn't feeling well enough to go further. I have to say, I haven't seen it this green in early June for many years. All that rain we've had made a difference. More wildflowers than usual for this time of year also. In addition to the usual blue flag irises I saw a few other perennials. The dogwood bushes are in bloom along the creek, attracting bees and other bugs. The creek is down since last time we were there, making it very easy to cross. We didn't stay long but it was about as nice as it gets. We saw no wildlife. Last year we saw a mama bear and cub. Also last year hubby saw a mama wolf and a mama bobcat. He saw the bobcat many times when he hiked up a side canyon. She would watch him. The wolf circled him from about 200 feet away, as he sat on a log. She had big teats, was obviously nursing, he said, as did the bobcat.
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May 17 2009
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White Mountain Grasslands AreaAlpine, AZ
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Hiked with a couple of pals, checked out the waterfall. It is dry now. The reason it runs so nicely earlier in the season is because they run the irrigation water down through that draw from up above, from Ellis Wiltbank Reservoir. Saw four antelope including a showy male with pretty big horns.

They have been irrigating all around the ranch since March, and the grass is green. Contrasting with this green is the bluish lavender color of thousands of blue flag irises. It really was pretty out there today. Big puffy clouds in the blue sky. We hiked about 5 miles or so. Yes, once again, (I'm editing here) that flower is called BLUE FLAG IRIS.
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May 15 2009
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Los Caballos Loop Trail, AZ 
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Back in Show Low for my job, where I have 3 hours to kill. I did the other end of this loop today. It took me awhile to figure out that the other end of this 14-mile loop starts ACROSS THE ROAD from the trailhead! (Duh.) Again, the trailhead is off 260, take Joe Tank Road, which is about 3.5 miles, or so, west of the Show Low intersection of 60 and 260. Go in about 1/2 mile, you'll see the trailhead.

TRACKS hiking club has put up blue diamonds, so watch for those, as you can get off onto a side trail very easily, what with all the ATV damage. I can't believe the FS is so lax about what I saw in this area. There are some steep hillsides with ATV roads running up and down them, just like in the desert. It is really a mess back in there.

This side of the loop goes through a fairly pleasant canyon full of pines and oaks. The trail's tread is trashed by ATVs, though--have to warn you about that. They have destroyed all the "Non-motorized" signs, too, of course, the ignorant cretins. I saw no one, though. Then the trail goes into the old Rodeo-Chediski burn area, which is interesting because there are so many Gambel's Oaks coming up. Also New Mexico Locust, and lots of lupine flowers and other annuals. Lots of deer and elk tracks, too. It looks to me as though this trail is also popular with horse riders and mountain bikers. I think I will bring my bike here sometime.
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Mogollon Rim Interpretive Trail #615Alpine, AZ
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Looking for a place to hike near Show Low, as I have time to kill there every Wed. This isn't much of a trail but it sure beats sitting in my school bus in the Walmart parking lot! And I'm on the clock while hiking, so that's nice, too! While hiking this trail today, I decided to go off of it a bit into the woods. Upon returning to the trail I met an old man and his dog. Turns out he was very interesting. A former river rafting guide, he had lived in Alaska and had done a lot of interesting things in his life. We walked along together for an hour or so.
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Started at Water Canyon Trailhead, hiked to Point-of-Mountain Spring and back. Saw one ATVer on trail, we told him it is for non-motorized use. He was actually apologetic, and turned around and went back. I need to keep calling the Forest Circus to let them know of these violations. Summer is coming and that is the busy time. I want to keep after them to do something about this problem. Last summer the District Ranger did go up and check out the area near Mexican Hay Lake re the ATV problem up there. FS recreation person told me that one of the ATV clubs plans to help with trailwork and also with educating riders about the non-motorized trails. A little respect such as that could go a long way. I plan to call the president of that ATV club to thank him for that effort. But right now I am very bitter about the treatment of our non-motorized trails by ATVers, and the lack of attention to this trail by the FS. The FS people have not even been on this trail at all in 3 years, they never actually did finish building it, nor do they maintain it. It should slowly be converted to single-track as much as is possible (given the types of terrain it covers.) In some areas it is converting itself to singletrack, but of course not in the areas that the ATVers get onto it. In the stretches where the ATVs haven't damaged it, it is getting narrower!
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Apr 25 2009
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Upper South Fork, AZ 
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Yes, that is snow in the photo. At the beginning of the hike we were right about at 9,000. This is the upper end of the South Fork of the Little Colorado. If you were to hike all the way up South Fork Trail #97, after about 4 or 5 miles you would have to start negotiating a lot of deadfall, but eventually you would come out into this area. However, we reach it by driving up Big Lake road from Eagar. Then turn right on FR 409. You'll need a map, but you can figure out which one of the creeks to walk down if you have the map. The trail shown in the photos was made by cattle and elk, not so much for hikers. But it is ok to hike on it. We had fun, and of course, we didn't see anyone. It was VERY windy today, though, and quite chilly, but once we were down in the gorge, in the forest, it was not windy.

My camera is a cheapie, so that is why I have photo ratings disabled. The photos are just to give you an idea of the area. Thanks.
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Apr 23 2009
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Murray BasinAlpine, AZ
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A slow hike up Flat Top from the 12th Street and Line St. intersection trailhead, behind the Eagar sawmill. My companion is slow, so it was a leisurely hike. Nice views, as usual. I have climbed this in all weather. Today it was shorts and t-shirts weather--finally!
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Los Caballos Loop Trail, AZ 
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This is one of those loop trails in Show Low. It is supposed to be 14 miles around. But I had time only for an out and back, so took the route that starts at the main trailhead. When I go again, I will take the other fork (which, editing this later on, I found out is across the road from the trailhead.) There are several of these loop trails near Show Low, and so far, what I have found is that, although they are well-marked "non-motorized," they have been pretty well trashed by ATVers. I drive a school bus and have a run to Show Low once a week. I have a couple hours to kill, so I go hiking and get paid for it! This hike also has had its nice views altered (as described in an old guidebook I have) by rampant nearby development--the "Bison" developments to be exact. However, all that being said, I saw no one and had a pleasant couple of hours on the trail. Since I don't know the area well, I am first going to hike the nearby trails before trying anything off-trail. This particular trail does take you through the edges of the 2002 Rodeo-Chedeski fire. The trail was closed for about 5 years or so while they waited for the trees to fall. However, there are still a lot of live trees that survived, and new undergrowth.

This trail is located off 260, about 3.6 miles west of the 60/260 stoplight. If you are coming from Show Low, you'll be turning to the left onto Joe Tank Road, then drive about half a mile, past some houses, trailhead is very well marked on the right.
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Overland TrailAlpine, AZ
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Just a quick out-and-back exercise hike after work. I go here all the time. Seldom do I post it, though. Starting at the Water Canyon trailhead I hiked up to where the trail starts to follow a closed gravel road, which is 8070C. And back down again.

One thing of note, if you find yourself bored with this wide trail, watch for a small narrow trail that will bear off to the left, and go along the creek. That little old trail goes for quite a distance up Water Canyon, following the water all the way, until it becomes choked in deadfall. I guess you could easily hike it about 3 or 4 miles one-way before having to really start bushwhacking. The Overland Trail follows the water for only a short distance, then heads toward Point-of-Mountain and the high country.
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Rudd CreekAlpine, AZ
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To get to this canyon, take 180/191 south from Springerville/Eagar. Just before you get to Nelson Reservoir, and past milepost 408, you will cross the bridge over Nutrioso Creek. There is a parking area for the trail on the right, just past the bridge. Nelson Reservoir 7.5 map. It's a nice one to catch on your way to or from Escudilla. That's Escudilla, covered in snow, in the highway photo.

We hike this one in spring when the snow is melting. Hike up about 2 miles, you are going to be almost to the Game and Fish Department's Sipe White Mountain Wildlife Area. That's as far as we went, but you CAN follow Rudd Creek upstream on through Sipe's and out the other side, past a locked gate, keep going upstream, crossing FR 85 (Milligan Valley Road) and on up to St. Mary's Lake and Water Canyon Rd. Incidentally I did try to climb to the top of that knob you see in the photo, from the other side of it. Later I saw there is a small break in the rimrock on the north side of it. I'll try that way next time--I got cliffed-out on the south side.

Theoretically you could follow Rudd Creek to its source, then hike the Overland trail back to Eagar, or hike it to the south and catch the Black River, and make a big loop, via Fish Creek, Grant Creek, Lanphier Creek, etc., to New Mexico and the Gila Wilderness. That might seem like a long hike. It would be at least two or three weeks, if you took your time. Ah, but I'm daydreaming again!
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South Fork Trail #97Alpine, AZ
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Hiked in from Big Lake Hwy, not main trailhead, just to see the snowmelt coming down the creek. To reach this area take Big Lake Rd. from Eagar. Turn right on FR 8070A. Go to locked gate. Hike following road to creek, about .8 mile. From here you can hike upstream,downstream, or continue hiking to Greer on 8070A. Mtn. bikable, too. (Photos are not meant to be great art, just to illustrate the snowmelt.)
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White Mountain Grasslands AreaAlpine, AZ
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This area is known locally as the Water Ranch because it used to be owned by the town of Springerville for usage of its water rights. It is now owned and managed by the G&F dept. The original owners I believe were the Wiltbanks. I love this area! Usually we see elk or antelope. My husband saw deer this time, but I missed that.
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