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Mar 04 2015
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37 male
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 Phoenix, AZ
Guadalupe Ridge - AKA Midlife Crisis / ScottPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Mar 04 2015
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Hiking3.10 Miles 828 AEG
Hiking3.10 Miles   1 Hour   1 Min   3.15 mph
828 ft AEG      2 Mns Break
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The TH was packed! This is about as busy as I've ever seen it on a weekday. Took Guadalupe Ridge to the next peak after Beverly Canyon, and doubled back the same way I came. I don't think I'd ever gone this way on Guadalupe Ridge, so it was a little weird. I was hoping this would be 900+ AEG, but not quite. ~800 AEG in 2 miles (my extra mile is because I had to park so far back in the parking lot)... this is probably the best AEG you can get in 2 miles from this TH. Next time I think I'll take Guadalupe down to the stone house at the National junction and double back, which would hopefully be closer to 1000 AEG.
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Mar 03 2015
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 Joined Nov 12 2013
 Phoenix, AZ
Ridgeline Javelina Loop - South MountainPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Mar 03 2015
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Hiking3.70 Miles 730 AEG
Hiking3.70 Miles   1 Hour   5 Mns   3.47 mph
730 ft AEG      1 Min Break
 
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Beverly Ridge to Ridgeline, Ridgeline to Javelina and Javelina back to the TH. Beautiful weather out there. A little chilly after sunset. Saw less than 10 people the whole hike.
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Feb 28 2015
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37 male
 Joined Nov 12 2013
 Phoenix, AZ
Butcher Jones Trail #463Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 28 2015
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Hiking5.40 Miles 702 AEG
Hiking5.40 Miles   3 Hrs   30 Mns   2.09 mph
702 ft AEG      55 Mns Break2 LBS Pack
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Linked none no linked trail guides
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My girlfriend and I brought one of our friends here. He hadn't been hiking in years, and we figured this was a good starting point for him with some nice scenery. Completely overcast when we got there around 10:45am, and looked like it was probably gonna rain. Not a lot of people at the TH. It was pretty breezy, making for some nice little waves on the lake. The sound of the water was immediately calming.

We ran across quite a few people along the first mile of the trail, but we saw pretty much no one after that point. I guess most people don't actually finish this trail. We saw several falcons and bald eagles. Hard to get good photos of them with the bad lighting. It sprinkled on us a few times throughout the hike, but it never really rained. It was a great day out there. This was a pretty good workout for our friend, but I think he had a good time. Hopefully I can get him to come hiking with us more often.
Named place
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Saguaro Lake
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A decent amount of flowers scattered throughout most of the trail.
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Feb 27 2015
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37 male
 Joined Nov 12 2013
 Phoenix, AZ
Telegraph Pass - South MountainPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 27 2015
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Hiking3.27 Miles 780 AEG
Hiking3.27 Miles   1 Hour   4 Mns   3.44 mph
780 ft AEG      7 Mns Break
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Up to the stone house and back again. My girlfriend wasn't feeling great so she turned around about halfway and I continued to the top. There were a bunch of annoying people on the ROOF of the stone house. Sigh. Ran most of the way back.
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Feb 26 2015
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37 male
 Joined Nov 12 2013
 Phoenix, AZ
Telegraph Pass - South MountainPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 26 2015
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Hiking3.37 Miles 781 AEG
Hiking3.37 Miles   1 Hour   35 Mns   2.70 mph
781 ft AEG      20 Mns Break
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Changing it up a bit on my after work hikes. Up to the stone house and back with my girlfriend. I forgot how steep the top part of this trail gets. Nice workout, but it's over pretty quick. I hadn't been up here in a while so I didn't know the road was open again. Bummer. :( There was a pretty steady flow of traffic in both directions. The road could have stayed closed as far as I'm concerned. Very few wildflowers in this area. Nice hike though...I think I'll make this one of my regulars.
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Feb 25 2015
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37 male
 Joined Nov 12 2013
 Phoenix, AZ
Mormon Trail - South MountainPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 25 2015
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Hiking2.40 Miles 835 AEG
Hiking2.40 Miles      50 Mns   2.94 mph
835 ft AEG      1 Min Break
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Just up and down on Mormon. Lots of people, but no rattlesnakes.
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Feb 22 2015
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 Joined Nov 12 2013
 Phoenix, AZ
LV Yates Loop, AZ 
LV Yates Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Feb 22 2015
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Hiking5.65 Miles 653 AEG
Hiking5.65 Miles   2 Hrs   25 Mns   2.61 mph
653 ft AEG      15 Mns Break2 LBS Pack
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I was feeling a bit under the weather, but it was so nice outside that I couldn't waste it. Decided to do a fairly easy one today with my girlfriend. Started from the 40th St and Shea TH around 3:30pm. Parking lot was still pretty full. We took LV Yates to trail 100, then connected to 1A a couple miles down, then back to LV Yates and back to the TH. It was mostly a very nice stroll, and the weather was beautiful. Very quiet out there. Some mountain bikers on 100, but hardly anyone on 8 or 1A. Getting outside and getting some fresh air actually made me feel much better afterwards.
Flora
Flora
Blue Dicks
Fauna
Fauna
House Finch
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The middle section of LV Yates is blanketed in flowers, some of them already blooming. Some parts of 1A had some good coverage. Not much along trail 100.
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Feb 21 2015
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 Joined Nov 12 2013
 Phoenix, AZ
Shaw Butte - North Mtn LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 21 2015
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Hiking7.10 Miles 1,728 AEG
Hiking7.10 Miles   2 Hrs   10 Mns   3.30 mph
1,728 ft AEG      1 Min Break
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Got out there around 7:45am, which is early for me. Started from the big parking lot on 7th st (not the Visitor Center one), and it was packed! North Mountain was more crowded than I've ever seen it. Didn't bother me too much though. It was a beautiful day out... mostly cloudy with a little breeze. I went up and down the paved side of North Mountain, then took trail 101 over to Shaw Butte and did that whole loop and back. I didn't expect this to be over 7 miles and 1700 AEG, but it all looks right in HAZ Tracks.
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The inner basin was blanketed in wildflowers that mostly haven't bloomed just yet. A good amount of flowers in bloom along the higher parts of Shaw Butte.
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Feb 20 2015
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37 male
 Joined Nov 12 2013
 Phoenix, AZ
Mormon Trail - South MountainPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 20 2015
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Hiking2.40 Miles 835 AEG
Hiking2.40 Miles   1 Hour   20 Mns   2.06 mph
835 ft AEG      10 Mns Break
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Just up and down on the Mormon Trail tonight. Pretty uneventful until a rattlesnake scared the crap out of us on the way down. I was just about to step on him right in the middle of the trail in the near dark, when I heard the familiar rattle and jumped back. He was small and seemed pretty lethargic, but had enough energy to rattle at us. Not sure what kind of rattlesnake it was since it was dark, and I didn't have my camera with me. Didn't look like a western diamondback...it was much darker in color. Funny how both rattlesnakes I've seen while hiking have been on the busy Mormon Trail.
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Feb 19 2015
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 Phoenix, AZ
Mormon Trail - South MountainPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 19 2015
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Hiking3.75 Miles 980 AEG
Hiking3.75 Miles   1 Hour   14 Mns   3.13 mph
980 ft AEG      2 Mns Break
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Parking lot was full, and there were at least 4 cars just sitting there waiting for a spot. I guess they don't realize you can park along the roads right before the TH? Looked very silly seeing them all sitting there waiting. A good amount of wildflowers just opening up along Mormon and the shrubs are blooming. Went a little ways east on the National when I got to the top, and a little more exploring. Doesn't look like there's gonna be much of a wildflower show along this section of the National.
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The buds are just starting to open up along the Mormon Trail. Brittlebush and other shrubs are blooming. Hardly anything along this section of the National.
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Feb 16 2015
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 Joined Nov 12 2013
 Phoenix, AZ
Joe's Canyon TrailTucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 16 2015
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Hiking7.83 Miles 2,150 AEG
Hiking7.83 Miles   4 Hrs   10 Mns   2.47 mph
2,150 ft AEG   1 Hour    Break5 LBS Pack
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The last stop on our Southeast AZ weekend road trip, the Huachucas. My first time here. The drive in to Coronado National Memorial from Sierra Vista was beautiful (despite having a HUGE dog run in front our car and try to attack us while driving down Coronado Memorial Road!). It was overcast and threatening to rain when we got there, but it never did. It was warm, cold, cloudy, and sunny at different times during our hike. In other words, typical AZ weather! There were a few other cars in the parking lot.

We walked across the road, read the warning about smugglers, and started our hike. It started climbing pretty much right away, but it was pretty gentle. The whole hike was a steady but gentle incline, actually. The trail narrowly cut through chest-high grass as it climbed up through the canyon. There was a trickle of water in a few spots. The canyon was alive with birds. We didn't see any other hikers until a couple miles into the hike. Eventually we were out of the canyon and up on the grassy ridge, and the views all around us were awesome, especially to the S and SW into Mexico.

The trail then turned north and followed the ridge for a couple miles. This was my favorite part of the hike, as we had great views on all sides of us the whole time. We could see the top of the pass, our destination, in the distance. We came to the junction with the Yaqui Ridge Trail, where the sign let us know we were only 1 mile away from the US/Mexico border. We could see the border down below, and it was tempting to hike down there, but we didn't have the time nor the energy to do so today. We made it to the top of the pass, where there were several other people enjoying the views. You can drive the main road all the way up here, but where's the fun in that??

My girlfriend hung out at the pass for a bit while I backtracked slightly and headed up to Coronado Peak. The climb was a little steep, but it was very short. There were panoramic views of Mexico up there, and it was breathtaking. I was really glad I didn't skip this little spur trail. Went back down to the pass and met back up with my girlfriend, and we started heading back. We made great time back, as it was a gentle downhill the whole time. Didn't see any other hikers the whole way back... and only saw a handful of people the whole day.

This was a beautiful hike, and I couldn't think of a better way to end our weekend trip. I've been to several of the Southeast AZ sky islands now, and what surprises me most is how they all have a very different feel to them. I've loved them all. I can't wait to explore more of them. I could see the Dragoons from both of our major hikes this weekend, and they looked very inviting... :)
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Feb 15 2015
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 Joined Nov 12 2013
 Phoenix, AZ
Chihuahua Hill - BisbeeTucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 15 2015
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Hiking2.84 Miles 947 AEG
Hiking2.84 Miles   2 Hrs      2.27 mph
947 ft AEG      45 Mns Break
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Stayed the weekend in Bisbee with my girlfriend, and we decided this hike would be a good way to spend an hour or two. The weather was completely overcast again, making for a nice day but not nice photos. We were a little confused where this hike started, but I loaded up the route and realized that walking down OK Street was actually part of the route, since there's no public parking available anywhere along OK Street. It was cool walking and seeing all the colorful houses along the way. We walked to the very end of OK Street and the beginning of the trail was pretty obvious on the right, though unmarked.

This trail might be short but it is actually fairly steep. Kind of like climbing the Mormon Trail at South Mountain. Very rocky terrain. The views of Bisbee open up pretty quickly. Just before the top of the first hill, Youngblood Hill, we came upon a small Buddhist shrine under a tree. A couple minutes later we were at the top and came across a much larger Catholic shrine. I'm not a person of faith, but I always like seeing stuff like this. I appreciate the effort and the dedication it took to build something like this up here, and it was a really nice spot. We stayed there for a little while.

We could see the trail continuing down and then up over to Chihuahua Hill. It turns into an old 4WD road at this point and isn't particularly exciting. It was another 100 ft or so climb. Honestly, Chihuahua was pretty much a bust. Nothing up there, and there's pretty much no view through the trees. You get a pretty good view of the Lavender Pit just before the peak, but that's about it. I feel like Youngblood is really the destination on this hike, and it didn't even seem worth going over to Chihuahua. Still a nice hike if only for Youngblood, and I'm glad we did it. We headed back down the way we came and enjoyed the rest of our day wandering the streets of Bisbee.
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Old City Park - Bisbee
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Feb 14 2015
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 Joined Nov 12 2013
 Phoenix, AZ
Guindani TrailTucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 14 2015
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Hiking4.57 Miles 1,010 AEG
Hiking4.57 Miles   2 Hrs   30 Mns   2.11 mph
1,010 ft AEG      20 Mns Break3 LBS Pack
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Took another weekend road trip to Southeast AZ. Our main destination was Bisbee, where we stayed for 2 nights, but we had plenty of other things planned on the way there and on the way back. First stop was Kartchner Caverns in Benson, which me and my girlfriend had never been to. Kartchner was awesome, and so was this hike. Wasn't sure what to expect from this hike, but it was a very pleasant surprise for us both.

The weather was completely overcast, which made for a very nice day out, but not a great one for photos. The mesquite forest at the beginning of the trail was really cool. Also some of the biggest ocotillo I've ever seen. A lot of them were even bigger than the surrounding mesquite trees. We chose to do the loop in the direction in the description, CCW. The first mile of the trail was mostly flat and gentle. Then the trail curved back into the mountains and started to climb a bit. We started to hear running water down below. I wasn't really expecting to see any water on this trail, but the creek was flowing pretty heavily! A nice surprise. There were even a few 5-10 ft waterfalls. We were starting to think the trail wouldn't end up going down to the creek at all, but it eventually crossed it several times. Nice to feel the ice cold water. It was hard to cross the creek without getting our feet wet in a couple spots.

Around 2 miles in, the trail started to climb up and out of the canyon, and this half mile was the only steep part of the hike. At the top of that climb, we came to a saddle, and the expansive views to the east really snuck up on us. It stopped us in our tracks and we just enjoyed this spot for a while. I was glad we did the loop in this direction, because we had this view in front of us pretty much the whole way down. Awesome views of the other surrounding sky islands. We only saw 3 other people. Crazy how Kartchner was so crowded, but no one was on this trail. Fine by me! We enjoyed this hike a lot more than expected. Great way to kick off our weekend!
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Feb 13 2015
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 Phoenix, AZ
Mormon Trail - South MountainPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 13 2015
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Hiking2.40 Miles 835 AEG
Hiking2.40 Miles   1 Hour   20 Mns   2.40 mph
835 ft AEG      20 Mns Break
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Feb 12 2015
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 Phoenix, AZ
Mormon Trail - South MountainPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 12 2015
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Hiking2.40 Miles 835 AEG
Hiking2.40 Miles   1 Hour   20 Mns   2.40 mph
835 ft AEG      20 Mns Break
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Feb 11 2015
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 Joined Nov 12 2013
 Phoenix, AZ
Mormon Trail - South MountainPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 11 2015
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Hiking2.40 Miles 835 AEG
Hiking2.40 Miles   1 Hour   20 Mns   2.22 mph
835 ft AEG      15 Mns Break
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Brought my girlfriend with me this time. Had to park on the street today as the TH parking was full. Really nice weather after sunset. Wildflowers will be out in full force soon.
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Feb 10 2015
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 Phoenix, AZ
Mormon Trail - South MountainPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 10 2015
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Hiking2.40 Miles 835 AEG
Hiking2.40 Miles      53 Mns   3.00 mph
835 ft AEG      5 Mns Break
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The parking lot was full and cars were parked down the street... first time I've seen that here on a weekday in a while. Lots of people on the trail. I still managed to have the top to myself though. Weather was perfect after the sun went down. Plenty of daylight left going down... should have done a longer hike!
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Feb 09 2015
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 Phoenix, AZ
Pima Canyon Loop, AZ 
Pima Canyon Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Feb 09 2015
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Hiking3.30 Miles 643 AEG
Hiking3.30 Miles   1 Hour   24 Mns   2.68 mph
643 ft AEG      10 Mns Break
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Pima West loop to the north end of Beverly Ridge, and the ridge back to Pima West and back to the TH. The TH was really crowded today. It's nice to have all the extra daylight after work now.
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Feb 08 2015
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 Phoenix, AZ
Peak 2429 - Phoenix PreservesPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 08 2015
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Hiking7.60 Miles 1,991 AEG
Hiking7.60 Miles   3 Hrs   5 Mns   2.68 mph
1,991 ft AEG      15 Mns Break3 LBS Pack
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Continuing on my mission to explore all of the Phoenix Mountains area. Checked a couple more off the list today. My first time on Dixie Peak or LV Yates. Started from the 40th st and Shea TH, which I'd never been to. Did not expect the TH to be so crowded. Got there around 9am and had to wait a few minutes for a spot.

My main destination was Dixie Peak but I ended up doing a lot more. Made my way up to Dixie Peak first. A sign referred to it as "Twobit Peak." Is that gonna be its official name? Easy going until that last half mile, which I'd say is about as steep as Piestewa. Thankfully not nearly as crowded. The views were on par with Piestewa I think. Hung out up there for a few minutes. Before going back down I went along the ridge to the south for a bit. There was a faint trail at first, with a couple cairns, but the trail disappeared pretty quick. I continued for maybe 1/4 mile off-trail before it wasn't feasible anymore, and turned back. Went most of the way back down and cut across to LV Yates and headed south.

Didn't have a specific loop in mind but had a couple ideas. LV Yates wasn't exceptionally interesting, but I could see how it would be great during wildflower season. It was already blanketed in little flowers that are just starting to sprout. Saw a dozen or so poppies that were already grown. Took LV Yates all the way to its end and continued south on 304. Connected with 8B and headed over to 8A. 8B is much harder coming from this direction. Only saw a few other people on the whole 8 :next: 8A loop. Thought about trying out the recently-posted Ridgeline 6 but I didn't have the time nor the energy today. Took 8A back up to LV Yates and followed that all the way back to the TH.

Really enjoyed this hike. Wildflower season is almost here, and the desert seemed to be full of life today. Even though it was still a little warmer than I'd like, it was a beautiful day out there.
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Tiny wildflowers starting to sprout all over the place, especially along LV Yates. Some poppies already fully grown.
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Feb 07 2015
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 Phoenix, AZ
Perl Charles Trail #1APhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 07 2015
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Hiking8.74 Miles 1,817 AEG
Hiking8.74 Miles   3 Hrs   55 Mns   2.62 mph
1,817 ft AEG      35 Mns Break3 LBS Pack
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Big figure 8 loop with my girlfriend. This is becoming my go-to weekend hike when I don't want to think too hard about where to go. The trails were very busy today, with a lot of big annoying groups out. CCW this time, making a figure 8 out of it with both Irregular Link and VOAZ. Hit a few little unmarked peaks along the way. Took parts of trails 100 and 220 before getting back to the TH. Went through the "horse tunnel," which I didn't even know was there. When I saw a sign for it I had to check it out. Pretty cool. Really warm out there today...a little too warm. Feels like it's April already. Still had a great time out there though.
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