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Coronado Butte - 2 members in 8 triplogs have rated this an average 4 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Jun 09 2018
friendofThundergod
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Coronado ButteNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
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Hiking6.00 Miles 2,575 AEG
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I made this one harder than what it should have been. I had forgot about the little shelf section during the class three portion and had us turn around there and go back down the chute, I am not sure what I was thinking. It just did not ring a bell and I was worried we might be climbing to some false summit, or dead end. The narrow ledge and second steep chute just looked more sketchy than I could remember, so I thought it was not the route. I thought maybe we went up a drainage too soon. It then all came back to me and I realized that was the way, but by this point I did not want to backtrack and do that same steep chute over again, so I just committed us to the class four route.

The tricky part along the class four route that I mentioned in my first triplog is still tricky. CJ actually got up it first and then I barely followed. From there it was still some route finding for me, but I got us to the top. We did not stick around and enjoy the summit much, because we wanted to make up for lost time. Speaking of time, we spent more time than we should have looking for the top of the class three route on the way down. I was just off, Coronado won today, too much time following and chatting last time, did not retain anything apparently. I probably should have taken a few minutes to at least read my old triplog before we tackled this one. Nevertheless, we still both enjoyed the summit and we relished the fun little challenge in the heat today.




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Mar 19 2017
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 Kingman, AZ
Coronado ButteNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
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Hiking4.00 Miles 2,000 AEG
Hiking4.00 Miles   3 Hrs      1.33 mph
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The original plan was to do Grandview, but I found the lot to be a sea of people, with no parking spots available. Even if there was a spot, not sure if I would have took it. Continued on Desert View Drive, trying to determine a plan. Eventually settled on New Hance, after some back and forth.

Off right around 4PM. Only saw two other backpackers coming up while I was on New Hance. The Butte is so tempting, so decided to go off trail. Based on my last adventure here, I knew to stay to the right for the whole ascent to the mesa. Got to the butte, and found what I thought to be the only obvious chute up, but it certainly did not look doable for me, or anywhere close to my comfort level. I just saw cliff, shelves and overhanging boulders about 30 feet up. Aborted that and went over to the east lookout, which I think is a fantastic view. Looks like you might be able to go down from there, around to the north side and perhaps up from there, but again nothing in my comfort zone. I crawled along the nearby shelf to get the view west, which was enough excitement for me.

Even though no summit, still lots of fun!
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nikorock28
Hiking4.50 Miles 2,200 AEG
Hiking4.50 Miles   3 Hrs   13 Mns   1.40 mph
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I didn't summit but this was impromptu and I didn't even know this was Coronado Butte until I asked Hippy just now what the summit was off of New Hance. It played out as follows below.

I headed out on Desert View drive wanting to hike something... Grandview, Tanner, not sure. The flow of traffic was mind numbingly slow so I turned off into Grandview, where the parking was a zoo. There was one spot in the very last spot of the overflow, but somehow all the people around didn't make it appealing to stop, so I continued on. New Hance popped into mind and I pulled off into a spot on the side of the road not far from the trailhead. I had been on this trail once previously, in October 2013, with John9L and Hippy, and had gone about 3 miles down and back. Had I remembered how crumbly and steep the trail was, I may not have stopped.

I was planning on taking my two water bottles, but left one in the car. I didn't feel like going back the 200 yards (that is much too far), so opted I would cut my hike a little short. I figured I would turn around around after one hour down. As I headed down the trail (off at 3:06PM), the ridge and the butte in the distance kept drawing my eye. I was thinking that it looked totally doable so once I found a convenient spot to head off trail, I did so. I didn't really have a plan in mind, just keep heading up and see what I encountered.

I switched back and forth between the east and wide sides of the ridge, climbing some short sections when needed. I came to the first cliff section just below the mesa and opted for left to investigate, but quickly found out that was not a viable path. Really great views from over there in the rocks though, so it was worth it. Switched over to the right side and saw that this was the ticket. Use trail-ish and some scrambling took me to the top, but I was slightly dejected to see that this only brought me to a mesa and I still had some work to do. A little conflicted because it was now well past my one hour turnaround time (1:17 if I recall), so I set a new turn around time of 1.5 hrs. It looked "right there" so surely it couldn't take too long. Not even knowing if it was summitable, but with summit fever, I rushed through the mesa and made it to the base of the butte. I didn't really have time to investigate, so chose right and just kept on that. I went as far north as I could and cliffed out there. I saw a line of weakness in the cliff faces above, but it looked pretty sketchy and I wasn't going to try anything at this point, so it was time to turn back.

The descent was not the same way I came up, and I backtracked up and down a bit, sending plenty of large slabs and rocks beneath me (lots of loose rock up there!). I felt I was too far west so decided to stay close to the ridge and eventually made it back to the New Hance, which was a bit of a relief. The hike up was really nice with the fading sunlight. I didn't see anyone else out there.

I will do some research and be back again to complete this. But I must say it is pretty fun to read about a hike after the fact! Mileage and AEG are a guess based on others' triplogs.
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May 17 2015
JuanJaimeiii
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 Chandler, AZ
Coronado ButteNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
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Hiking5.49 Miles 2,207 AEG
Hiking5.49 Miles   3 Hrs   51 Mns   1.86 mph
2,207 ft AEG      54 Mns Break
 
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Plan A Cheops, Plan B Coronado Butte. Plan B won out so this was the hike of choice today. Awesome group and fun times all the way. We had nice weather and very little issue reaching the summit. Bob and Dave took the first gully up and Lee, Joe and myself took the third. Both work and will get you where you want to go. Gully three requires some class 4 scrambling and one spot that will make you think twice. Other than that it's fairly straight forward. We all descended down gully one.

Afterwards we went and did some exploring in the sinking ship area. Another great day in the canyon with good peeps.
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Coronado ButteNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
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Hiking5.50 Miles 2,525 AEG
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Brahma gave me the summit itch. So naturally I was very happy to get an invite from Bob P to knock out another G.C. summit on Sunday.

Coronado is certainly not the most difficult summit to reach in the Grand Canyon, however, its definitely one worthy of visiting. The hike in was pretty straight forward, although, a year ago I would not have described it the same way. Our paths diverged at Gully #1 which offered a pretty standard class three scramble to the top and probably some four after that. Dave and Bob headed up one, while myself, Joe and JJ headed for gully #3 which supposedly offered a 40 foot class four to start your ascent. While we were unsure about the 40 foot part, it certainly did offer a couple of challenging shelves to navigate during the early portions of the ascent. The last shelf did give me a little problems, its funny the things that get to your nerves vs. the things that don't bother you at all. JJ however, said he was 99 percent confident he could do it. He guessed right and luckily avoided that one percent area of doubt. Seeing JJ do it was all I needed and I was up and over with a nice assist from him at the top. The little ledge was deceptively tough. From a slanted platform you have to use minimal holds to pull yourself up onto another slanted platform, while blocking out the prospect of what I think most of us agreed would be a pretty devastating fall. Joe agreed with all of the above, so we took an extra minute and ran a rope for a little added safety and Joe was right up. No need to say who carried the rope there and back again ;)

The Summit was great, in fact, a little history in those registers, definitely worth a visit. The views were tremendous and we enjoyed our quick stay. The hike back was pretty standard. I got to meet my nemesis New Hance again and it was not near as bad as with a full pack, however, definitely still the last man out in that group.

In the end it was a really nice hike and a rewarding summit. I was very happy to cross this one off my list, hope to tackle another one soon.

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It was nice getting out with the varsity squad for a hike. I was able to bug Dave about the JMT and pack-rafting for nearly two straight hours, I lined up a potential Cheops run and I was introduced to the Del Taco experience for the first time. Thanks to JJ for driving which enabled me to knock out some much over-due grading and a special thanks to Joe and Dave for allowing my boots to ride in the car on the way home ;)
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May 17 2015
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Coronado ButteNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
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Hiking5.49 Miles 2,207 AEG
Hiking5.49 Miles   3 Hrs   51 Mns   1.86 mph
2,207 ft AEG      54 Mns Break
 
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Mr P, Bob, rlrjamy fam inc. ascended the dirt sliding chute with Dave. jj, Lee & I hit the 3rd gully on the same highest pillar, butte or whatever they're called. It looked like a breeze from every angle. Opinions change quick when light speed calculations of exposure to grip ratio become apparent. Lee helped me up the first and jj helped me up the second. With an hour of hemming and hawing I might make it on my own.

The eastern canyon views really captured my attention. Not as easy for my virgin eyes to decipher as the corridor. Sean P. plus a bunch of other respectables in the register. Albeit a dinky teacup the experience was better than anticipated.

For the sake of record our approach seemed to be a combination of easy and lucky. Bob had a route exploring on a previous trip so we knew to hit the ridge and go right at options. We found cairns and use trails. A casual hiker would not like, nothing tough for off trail enthusiast.

With only a half day burned we thought about hitting Sinking Ship. In true Preston Sands / Wally Farak fashion we took one step and Lee picked up two pottery sherds. This unplanned jaunt didn't pan out so we hit the road.
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Coronado ButteNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
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Hiking5.49 Miles 2,207 AEG
Hiking5.49 Miles   3 Hrs   51 Mns   1.86 mph
2,207 ft AEG      54 Mns Break
 
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What’s in a name?

Ayer Peak was named after Ed’s wife. Her name before marriage was Emma Augusta Burbank. The couple was from Chicago but also had a home in Flagstaff. Emma descended the Old Hance trail in 1885 becoming the first woman “tourist” to do that. She descended with the aid of ropes. She didn't climb the peak that was named after her. Dave1 pointed out the Old Hance route which looks pretty fun.

Glad to get this done after climbing aimlessly in the wrong place on a prior trip.

Great group dynamic…non stop laughter and twisted meanings.

The hike was fun up until I fell and slide hurting my knee shoulder and elbow. :( But all feels better now :y:

Here is some history for those working:
We made a camp on a point jutting out into the Canyon.
Mrs. Ayer wanted to go to the bottom, but Bill Hull, the
adventurous cowboy who had been down once, protested
strongly against that. No white woman had ever climbed
down. Bill, with a comrade, had blazed the original trail
later, but at this time there was none.
"I selected two of the strongest men I had in the party, and
known to be good climbers, and they, Bill Hull, my brother
Henry, Mrs. Ayer and I started to go down to the bottom of
the canyon, 6000 feet.
"It was a remarkable climb down, and I know of no other
white woman who ever went to the bottom of the Grand
Canyon, until trails were made. We descended, or slid down,
steep slopes of sand and broken rocks, crawled along narrow
edges over precipices where many times, a mis-step would
have sent us to death.
" After a time we arrived at a point where there was water,
immediately under our camp above from where they could
see us with a glass. We were 3000 feet below them and
looked like small ants (they said) ; at any rate not taller than
an inch or two. Here we got our lunch. By the way, it con-
sisted of a can of tomatoes, and of coffee, heated over a fire
of twigs and some broken up bread and crackers." Here
it may be inserted, all the provisions were carried in bags on
the backs of the men, with the coffee pot slung above. Also
on their backs they carried rifles and a small roll of blankets,
for it was necessary that their hands should be free for the
descent. To resume : "Leaving some of our supplies we went on until
that night, and camped in a deep canyon, probably two miles
from the bottom. Here some twigs were scattered on a flat
rock, one blanket thrown over it and one used for a cover,
and we slept there.
"The next morning we went to the roaring, rushing, mud-
colored water of the Colorado River, terribly impressive.
"We made some more climbs up the high crags to get a
wonderful view of the Canyon chasm.
"We arrived at our camp on the rock that night, with sore
muscles and aching bones. The second night after we got
to this place, we were still in sight and they were able to see
a fire from the camp above, so we built a large one and shot
off our rifles to attract their attention, and in a few minutes
a fire started at a point near their camp. It looked almost as
large as a half bushel basket.
"We climbed out the next afternoon and arrived about four
o'clock, worn and battered, "looking ten years older" they
said.
"It was one of the hardest trips we ever took for fun. We
asked them when we got back why they did not build a big
fire. They said they did. It was nearly twenty feet high and
they burned nearly a cord of wood, but the fire being so far
away, looked small.
"In this party, Alida Dunham, a cousin of mine, went with
us, so that Mrs. Ayer, my daughter, Mrs. Dummer and Alida
Dunham were the only women except Indian women who
had ever seen the Canyon, up to that time ; especially at that
point and (as written before) Mrs. Ayer was the only white
woman who ever went to the bottom, until trails were blazed.
The descent was made at one of the very difficult places in the
Canyon. A mountain in the Canyon (showing in the picture)
was named Mount Ayer in recognition of her nerve and en-
durance. However, this was changed afterwards to Cor-
onado." From Reminiscences of Edward E. Ayer.
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Apr 25 2014
BobP
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Coronado ButteNorthwest, AZ
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Hiking6.50 Miles 3,500 AEG
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Mileage and AEG are a guess but I think pretty conversative.

This sparked my interest while doing that awesome BP Dave1 had setup. I read the hike description for this ;) and figured it would be easy. Parked on the old forest road that leads to Hull Cabin($140 per night sleeps six)and then instead of walking the road I just entered the trees and headed to Hance. You go down Hance about 1.5 to 1.75 miles and you will see one of two routes heading to the saddle. You can see the route as you are descending. If you've ever done any flagstone surfing before and liked it you'll enjoy the first bit. Follow the ridge and then contour and then climb/downclimb cliffout several times and make it to the mesa. I'm sure there are much easier ways. Once at the buttress is where you don't want to start climbing or maybe there are a select few who can. Anyways, I went in with a desert attitude and fell short. But now that I've read a few things about this hike, I will be back. Cool day none the less and the way back was interesting. The things I forgot to pack for both trips today food snacks and socks..
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