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Mar 22 2017
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Royal Arch RouteNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
Backpack avatar Mar 22 2017
friendofThundergod
Backpack48.70 Miles 13,900 AEG
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This route and backpack was everything they say it is and more. It was rugged, awe-inspiring and remote. I feel accomplished and elated to have been able to complete this one.

Day 1:

I did this trip with a couple of nagging ailments, so day one became a bit of a slog for me, but it was generally pretty easy. We took the Esplanade route from South Bass to a "dry" campsite just before Royal Arch Creek. Fast times down South Bass, as one would expect and pretty good moving across the relatively nice Esplanade route. A little boulder hopping, but generally pretty good moving down canyon to camp, then a little hunt for water, a quick dinner and a retreat to the tents to ride out a pretty good little squall.

Day 2:

A little slower moving for me down canyon, but not an overly tough route to the arch. The arch/land bridge area is tremendous and a true wonder of the canyon: A short climb out of Royal Arch Creek and then some nice tread to the infamous rappel. There was already a hand line in place, with some well placed/tied knots at the famous down climb, so we naturally utilized it and made pretty quick work of the modest obstacle. I would probably place it somewhere on the level of the down climb and hand line use needed in Phantom Canyon for frame of reference. From there it was dodging rain, light exploring and the usual camp activities.

Day 3:

Day three was Elves Chasm and a backpack that was pretty light in terms of miles, but a little rugged in nature. The Chasm needs no describing and was as nice as they say. Our movement down the Tonto was relaxed and we played the water gamble game perfectly to the tune of a really nice site among some slabs and high above a no name dry fall in a no name wash.

Day 4:

I thought day four was basically going to be just a movement and rest day for me, but it ended up being packed full of some pretty good hiking and new sites. A cloudy morning made for some perfect conditions along the Tonto and the views across the Colorado and north were superb at times. After setting up camp at the South Bass junction, we hiked to the "boat" and the South Bass Beach. The hike down canyon was very green and pleasant with several opportunities for filtering water. The boat was a cool little attraction and we all took a dip in the Colorado at the beach, overall, I think we all enjoyed the hike to the Colorado and its little attractions. I personally think its one of the nicer final descents to the river in the Grand Canyon. The chance of rain flirted with us at camp, but it ended up materializing on the north rim. As a result, we were rewarded with a nice little weather and cloud show along with a pretty nice sunset.

Day 5:

We only had five miles to complete on the final day, so Karl and I decided to add on one last side trip, Mount Huethawali. We knocked out the modest little summit on the way out. We were both happy to have made the pretty quick little detour to the relatively easy summit that we both really enjoyed. There are some great views from the summit and it felt like a fitting way to end our five day trek in the canyon. Unfortunately, after enjoying our moment on the summit, the realization set in for me that we still had to put on the heavy packs and climb out. The climb out did not go as bad as I thought it would, but it is certainly a grind; after about five hours from leaving camp, I topped out, signaling an end to our trip.

A great backpack and a big thanks to @chumley for putting it all together! In terms of non thru-hiking experiences, maybe one of my best ever. It will take a lot to beat this one. I am very grateful to have gotten a chance to complete this canyon gem.

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Mar 22 2017
BiFrost
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Royal Arch RouteNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
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BiFrost
Backpack51.13 Miles 14,926 AEG
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The invite for this trip came last minute with someone dropping out but managed to convince my boss I needed time off and made it happen. I've done this backpack before but I missed some cool side trips last time including Elves Chasm so a return trip was a must. Starting from South Bass TH we headed down to the Esplanade and then follow that route over to Royal Arch Canyon. Not a bad trek....longer but easier than the Point Huitzil way to the arch. Eventually we dropped into Royal Arch Canyon and found a spot for the night. No water at camp but was able to find some less than 1/2 mile from camp. Later that night after we had setup camp some good rain and strong winds hit for about 2 hours but it cleared by morning.

Day 2 we headed down Royal Arch Canyon and dropped packs at the canyon exit and day hiked down to the arch. Awesome area as last time so we spent probably 45 mins exploring and taking pics from every angle. Break over we headed back to our packs and started the exit over to the rappel. Rappel was relatively easy because of the solid anchor and rope already in place so we didn't need the rope we brought this time. Quickly down the rope and headed towards Toltec Beach as some rain started to move in. Setup camp on the beach between brief rain showers and tried to stay dry. Fortunately it cleared later in the evening and turned out to be decent night on the beach next to the Colorado.

Day 3 started with fun day hike over to Elves Chasm in the morning. Just like Royal Arch we spent decent amount of time exploring and taking lots of pics. Elves Chasm is very worthy destination and one of the side trips I missed last time. We got back to camp packed up and headed out around noon. First we hiked over to Garnet Canyon and then picked up Tonto Trail where it starts. Once on Tonto it's easy miles and we knocked out quick 6 miles before finding camp on some rock shelves in one of the Tonto Trail side canyons. Pleasant temps this night with no chance of rain and good spot all around.

Day 4 we headed over to South Bass on Tonto Trail finishing up before lunch with a few rain showers rolling through. After quick camp setup that gave us time to head down South Bass Trail to the Colorado and check out Bass Beach and Boat Beach. Cool to see the old boat relic, both beaches and Bass Rapids. Also saw huge boat party stopped just above the rapids. After that headed back to camp and fortunately no more rain but some cool clouds for sunset.

Day 5 only thing left was to hike out. However, @friendofThundergod and I decided to drop packs and day hike Mount Huethawali on the way out. Cool summit to finally get that we bypassed last time....great views from the top for such short day hike. Then it was back down to the packs and the final climb out to the rim. Great 5 days in the canyon and very cool loop! Thanks to @chumley for planning and the invite even if it was last minute :)

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Nov 22 2014
Hippy
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Mount HuethawaliNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
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Hiking7.10 Miles 3,082 AEG
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Hit up SB with 2 NPS friends and my cousin Alex.
They stopped at the Esplanade then head back up south bass while I ran on up to Mount We-the-wally and scrambled up the side for 35 minutes before our agreed upon turn around time
I made it to the rim in exactly 55 minutes from mid Mount H. Whoo!
I only know the time because I was trying to catch my group before they hit the rim. I arrived 4 minutes behind them. I feel pretty good about that.
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John9L
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Mount HuethawaliNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
Hiking avatar Oct 24 2013
John9L
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Met up with Hippy for a few days hiking in the Canyon. We decided to head out to the South Bass Trailhead on day one. This would be our first time at the trailhead and both of us were very impressed and can't wait to return!

We left the village and started the ride out FR 328. We were making good time when all of a sudden a low tire pressure sensor goes off. We stopped and I get out to find one of my tires hissing air. I was able to plug it and filled the tire back up with my air compressor. We'll have another tire issue on the return. More to come on that later. We also had to the pay the $25 bucks to the Supai tribe in order to cross their land. No biggie. After the tire issue and chatting with the Supai gatekeeper we finally reached the trailhead and started hiking around 11am. We wanted a much earlier start but it took a while to get here. Lesson learned!

Right away we noticed the view from South Bass Trailhead. It's jaw dropping! Both of us were blown away and were already talking about our return trip and we haven't even stepped foot in the Canyon yet! We finally get going and start making our way down. The upper portion of South Bass is in excellent condition. The trail is relatively smooth and very easy to follow. We checked out the ruins on the hike down and continued down to the Darwin Plateau. Before heading over to Mount Huethawali we took a quick detour over to a view point over Bass Canyon. Needless to say the view is spectacular!

After the viewpoint we started the off trail hike toward Huethawali. I had Chumley's GPS track and had a good idea on where we needed to go. We made slow and steady progress as we tried to avoid the Cryptobiotic soil. It's everywhere and is a pain to avoid. It lessons out as you start ascending elevation. We continued up the south end but didn't see any cairns at first. We continued following the GPS track and eventually found some. From there the route is cairned all the way to the summit. We reached the summit and found Chumley's summit register he placed back in April. There has been only one entry since he placed it and it was less than two weeks ago. We spent a good hour up top taking pics and eating lunch and enjoying the views! It's spectacular up there!

From there we started the scramble back down. We cruised down and then headed toward the Grand Scenic Divide. We started the off trail portion and Hippy found a cool little alcove in the upper layer of the Supai. It looks like people bivy in here. See pics. We continued the hike out and kept an eye on the time. It was getting late in the day and after 45 minutes or so we decided it was best to start our return hike to the rim. From there we cruised back to the South Bass trail and cruised on up to the trailhead.

After we were back at the jeep we started the drive back and stopped at the abandoned ranger station in Pasture Wash. We took a few pics and then continued the ride back. I'm driving the jeep fairly hard when all of a sudden another tire sensor goes off. This time I blew a tire and it had to be changed as night set in. I brought along all my tire repair equipment and had it changed relatively quickly. For anyone going to the SB trailhead, make sure you have a spare and tire repair kit. After that we made our way back to civilization.

The South Bass Trailhead is an absolute stunning trailhead! I can't wait to return again with the intention of going all the way to the river and then hopefully across the Tonto! I highly recommend this area!
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Mount HuethawaliNorthwest, AZ
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So what started as a totally normal day ended up being rather amusing to say the least.
First off, 9L INSISTED that HE Drive out of the park, so of course he got us lost heading out to 328, I had to backseat drive at every turn so he didn't miss it.

Less than 3 miles out of GCNP lines the jeep starts beeping at him, while my nose is buried in my Tomasi book (South Rim Edition of course) I roll my eyes as he slows down, stops and inspects the tires...apparently the shoddy patch job they did at Discount Tire broke free and there was a slow leak. So John pops out this INSANELY HUGE travel safety kit...its what I would consider the "OVER-Prepared for the End of The World" travel duffel...then he proceeds to stab the tire with a huge gauged needle and tells me its fixed... :scared: I'm out here with a mad man!

Needless to say after this little leak I stole the keys and took over the driving, we made great time to the Supai fee station, the Ranger there, Hansen, almost let us go in free thanks to my cute smile...until 9L opened his big mouth and asked which way to South Bass...*sigh*
So we paid the $25, got a receipt and Hansen hopped in his Polaris and sped ahead and basically held our hand until the right turn toward SB.

The road was smooth sailing most of the way (well, for me....in a jeep...John might have been crying) The ruts were deep, the dirt was dusty, it was a fun drive.

There were two vehicles at the trailhead, busy day! I instantly fell in love with the view from the TH, explored the little rock house ruins and had to drag John away from the jeep to FINALLY start hiking, I swear it was noon already!!!

South Bass is EASY, its remote, silent, beautiful, stunning and EASY, we reached the cute granaries in seconds and then the Esplanade in what felt like minutes and were heading up We-The-Wally in just a few more. Perfect day for a trot into the canyon!

I was really looking forward to bagging this summit for a few reasons.
The first really was to beat 9L in the "peak" stats for the year...but then I got a letter in the mail it read something like this:

"Hippy,
Your assistance is needed, the sarcasm is fading, please help
The Disciples of Frack"

Obviously there was nothing I could do to help with that so I decided to go hiking, I took 9L with me because I needed someone to pick on all day that could keep up and JoeyB was unavailable, probably knitting or something.

Mount We The Wally seemed perfect...for a murder! Not simple to get to, remote, surrounded by Native Land, deep Canyons and seldom traveled ravines... :-$

Where was I? Oh yea...apparently there's a cairned route up Mount H that a certain group of Disciples couldn't find when they went (not that I should talk I get stuck in the redwall ALL the time! :lol:) ...well, according to all the maps I've studied there's a really neat little saddle further north along S. Bass and if you walk to that then turn left toward Mount H you'll run RIGHT INTO this sweet little foot path that pretty much takes you along the east side and curves around and right up to the Summit...total cake walk, even though I had to leave 9L behind in order to reach said cairned route, he didn't believe me until he saw me traversing up the side of the mountain with ease...boys...

So, yea...don't bother cutting a ravine, just go to the saddle and turn left :D


Beautiful views on the summit, no cookies! Only one entry on Oct 15th, I wonder why nobody else hikes this one, it's so nice!

Easy walk down, 9L was slow heading up South Bass so I went out to the Great Scenic Divide, got attacked by a tree and decided to head back, I caught up with him at the top of the Coconino but he left me in his dust because he found a baby snake on the trail and of course I wanted to play with it so he got another head start and I had to trail run (again?!) to keep up after that.

We reached the jeep before sunset and he begged me to let him drive...bad idea, before we even got through the Supai gate we were driving at speeds of up to 17MPH!!! that must be the fastest he's ever taken that thing off paved road...I told him to speed up it's a JEEP for goodness sakes...so he did...and hit a sharp rock and tore the front passenger tire to bits, the jeep spun out of control, I had to reach over and grab the wheel and tell him to stop screaming...sigh, then I had to get out in the cold windy night and change the tire for him...

Poor John9L will never be the same after this traumatizing trip...regardless, Next time I'll drive!
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Mount HuethawaliNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
Hiking avatar Apr 27 2013
squatpuke
Hiking6.08 Miles 2,523 AEG
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Met birthday-boy Chumley and BobP at GCP the evening before. We car camped with the Hippy just outside of Pasture Wash Friday evening. It was very chilly, but with absolutely ZERO wind I slept VERY comfortably.

Was great to meet the legendary BobP...I immediately enjoyed his company as he brought much food and persistently asked me to partake. The evening menu consisted of mustard braut burritos with vanilla-wafer sugar-cookies for desert!!

The next morning, Hippy went back to a SAR class at GC. The three of us traveled on to Bass and quickly sped down the north end of the Esplanade. We started to climb "Weethawally" by traversing upwards, in a southerly direction along its eastern side looking for the simplest route to the top.

We [MISTAKENLY] came to a large dihedral at the south-eastern tip of the mountain and climbed up as far as was comfortable. After exploring every possibility (and cheating death a few times), BobP finally relinquished - - we went back down feeling a bit dejected..."Fokhagyma"!!

It was still reasonably early, so we kept traversing around the south end and finally found the correct "karen-ed" route, just left of center on the southern side.

This climbing proved MUCH easier and we were quickly at the top enjoying absolutely AWESOME 360 degree views and a perfect cool breeze!!
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Mount HuethawaliNorthwest, AZ
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The disciples of Frack. We The Wally camped in the forest and ate and drank before embarking on a hiking adventure. I slept pretty well considering Larry stole the spot I had picked out :tt: . Denny never would have done that...So later on whenever we drove, I called shotgun while Larry crammed himself in the back with all my camping gear :y: .

I've been past WeTheWally several times but never attempted to hike up it. I'm so glad Larry brought his book because it instantly became his responsibility to get us there and back safely. The hike down you pass some ruins and before you know it you've hit the junction. Left to Royalty...and the riffraff go right. You guessed it.... we went right.

This was a lot of fun and I'm glad we did it the way we did but I probably won't go that way again anytime soon but still would like to explore around the base some more.

Fun hike with great company....glad Hippy was able to camp with us.
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Mount HuethawaliNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
Hiking avatar Apr 27 2013
chumley
Hiking4.85 Miles 2,523 AEG
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Drove out to Pasture Wash Friday night and car camped on the NF between the rez and the NP. No permit needed!

After parting ways with Hippy, the three of us headed to the Bass TH and descended toward Huethawali. We stayed on the Bass Trail longer than we should have and ended up ascending the mountain from the East, which was an obvious dead-end. Eventually we traversed toward the south before finding a nice break to make our ascent. The scrambling was fun, but definitely more difficult than I had anticipated. Larry had read about the hike in a book and told us it should be easier. Despite assuming we were on the wrong route, we continued up until we couldn't go any farther without risk of serious injury and a side of stupid.

Feeling defeated, we headed back down and decided that we would try to circle the mountain instead and look for ruins. Shortly after heading west a ways we encountered a series of cairns and realized that the route up was along the southwest side of the mountain. Here the going was much easier, just some steep scree and hardly any need for hands at all. After a few minutes we had gained the summit.

Some snacks, a new summit register, and great views. We headed back down, staying with the cairned route until it petered out and then just cross-country hiking back toward the Bass trail and it's junction with the Esplanade Route.

Bob took off ahead of us, but I was in rare form and somehow felt great motoring up, reaching the top just a minute or two behind him.

Stats:
Start 7:55
Esplanade Junction 8:30, 1.3mi
Bass Exit 8:55, 2.0mi
Dead End spot 9:40, 2.5mi
Give up and try again 10:10
Summit 10:40, 3.3miles
Begin Descent 11:10
Esplanade Junction 11:55, 4.1mi
Trailhead 12:45, 6.08miles
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