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Sep 11 2021
AugustWest
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47 male
 Joined Mar 16 2019
 Phoenix
See Canyon Trail #184Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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AugustWest
Hiking10.45 Miles 2,476 AEG
Hiking10.45 Miles   4 Hrs   27 Mns   2.53 mph
2,476 ft AEG      19 Mns Break
 
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It occurred to me that I had never climbed to the top of the rim from the bottom on any trail. so I set out today to fix that.

I arrived at the TH at about 10:30 AM To a bustling parking lot. Aravaipa Runners Club was (and still is) running the 100 mile, Mogollon Monster today and tonight. See Canyon Trail is a small part of the course and there was a station set up that was slowly being taken down at the trailhead.

I started up only knowing I had to be in Gilbert no later than 5 to meet a friend for dinner. At the last minute I detoured to check out See Spring which was a good idea. The entire area around the spring is super green and lush. The first two people I saw of the day were two women drinking champagne at the rock table close to the spring. It really looked like they were waiting on a five course meal.

See Canyon was perfect with a mix of shade and sun under first the pines then the firs as I went further up in altitude. About a mile (or less) past the turnoff for the spring, the creek dried out.

The entire route was flagged by the running club and the trail was very easy to follow despite grass and maples crowding things in spots.

I saw 4 people on the way up and probably 15-20 on the way down all within a mile of the trailhead. Rim Road was dusty and my walk along General Crook Trail had me walking close to trucks and campsites.

My only issue with the trail was the lack of views. I thought climbing to the top of
the Promontory Fire Lookout would solve that, but that spot is locked down with razor wire, digital night vision surveillance and laser beams.

Fun and very beautiful area that I will return to and maybe find another way to reach the rim.
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May 19 2021
LindaAnn
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 Ahwatukee, AZ
See-Drew loop, AZ 
See-Drew loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar May 19 2021
LindaAnn
Hiking12.48 Miles 2,356 AEG
Hiking12.48 Miles   6 Hrs   9 Mns   2.22 mph
2,356 ft AEG      32 Mns Break
 
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Headed up See Canyon Trail with a side trip to See Spring. Lower half of See Canyon is in good shape, upper half is in rough shape, and very steep. Some poison ivy around the halfway to two-thirds point. Once at the top, took a combo of Gen Crook, Carr Lake, and the road through the campground over to the top of Drew, stopping about midway for a snack break. Down Drew, which is in mostly good shape. Then took Highline back west to finish out the loop. Only saw two other hikers all day. Heard some turkeys, but no other wildlife. Good temps most of the way, along with a nice breeze. Very dry, but the area did get some light rain yesterday.
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May 19 2021
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 Gold Canyon
See Drew Loop, AZ 
See Drew Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar May 19 2021
Daytripper
Hiking14.65 Miles 2,392 AEG
Hiking14.65 Miles   6 Hrs   9 Mns   2.52 mph
2,392 ft AEG      20 Mns Break
 
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Nice cool start to the day, good trail conditions on the See Spring Trail mini detour, nice to see and hear running water, met 2 backpackers which were the only 2 humans we saw on the trails today, light water flow in Christopher Creek made crossing easy. Was really really hoping to see a bear today especially after being teased about carrying bear spray, well turns out they were deterred so well they stayed out of sight :lol: Also received grief about bringing 3 hiking poles . Before the steeper portion of See trail nature is trying to reclaim it , ferns and locust are overgrown, had a couple of scratches to show for it. Upper portion of See is quite a workout, if you thought a 15 mile and 6k aeg hike already this week would slow down the energizer bunny you would be wrong but putting me in the lead did :D , I almost had a mishap with some deadfall along here too but only resulting in shoulder pain rest of the hike that’s better today . Nice views with a snack break on the rim edge before reaching the campground, while in that area @LindaAnn pointed out an odd thinning procedure the FS is using, cutting down the healthy trees and leaving the dead ones :? After the break I tried to get a head start by asking her to count tree rings on one of the recently cut trees but it didn’t stump her, good thing as I realized I didn’t know the route. Drew was for me the ideal trail to descend on plus shade and a breeze for a bonus, Highline was in good shape but there were portions unshaded and it was getting warm near the end. New loop for me and a great hike made better by marvelous company!
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May 15 2021
hikerdw
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 Mesa,AZ
See Bear Canyons Lasso, AZ 
See Bear Canyons Lasso, AZ
 
Hiking avatar May 15 2021
hikerdw
Hiking13.20 Miles 2,338 AEG
Hiking13.20 Miles   6 Hrs   2 Mns   2.51 mph
2,338 ft AEG      46 Mns Break
 
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Arrived to an empty TH but it was full when we returned. It’s been close to six years since we last hiked See Canyon which is too long, great trail, seemed easier than I remembered. Made the road walk to the south TH of Bear Canyon Lake. Lots of campers along the road and lots of folks fishing at that end of the lake. Planned on hiking the entire length of the Bear Canyon Lake Trail but the east side wasn’t that fun so we headed up to walk a FR to the north side and then followed the trail on the west side which was in really nice condition. Hiked Bear Canyon back to the Rim Road and then back down See Canyon. Bear Canyon was really nice and easy to navigate following game trails. Wildlife sightings included a snake, lots of squirrels, and a eagle. Really nice day.
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May 01 2021
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 Fountain Hills,
See Bear, AZ 
See Bear, AZ
 
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DixieFlyer
Hiking12.40 Miles 2,881 AEG
Hiking12.40 Miles   6 Hrs   14 Mns   2.53 mph
2,881 ft AEG   1 Hour   20 Mns Break
 
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I have not been up on the Rim in over 6 months, so I decided to head up there today and hike up to Bear Canyon Lake from the See Canyon TH.

It was a great day to be up on the Rim -- temperatures were nice and there were some clouds in the sky so we weren't in full sun very much.

The See Canyon Trail was in good shape except for around a half dozen downed trees that we had to navigate around. Once on the Rim, we crossed the Rim Road and went offtrail to FR208, which we took to the lake. There were several people camping along FR208, and there were a few people at the lake, but it wasn't terribly crowded. There were a few patches of snow in some shady spots around the lake, but the snow probably won't last too much longer.

We hung out at the lake for a while and then reversed course back to the TH. On the way back we went up to See Spring.

The water level was fairly low in Christopher Creek, so it was no problem keeping your feet dry on the 2 creek crossings.

This was a nice hike to do on a warm spring day.
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There were several wildflowers that were nice to look at along the See Canyon Trail
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Apr 28 2021
Nobody01
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See Canyon Trail #184Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Apr 28 2021
Nobody01
Hiking11.38 Miles 2,033 AEG
Hiking11.38 Miles   5 Hrs   50 Mns   2.38 mph
2,033 ft AEG   1 Hour   3 Mns Break
 
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Arrived at See Canyon Trailhead around 8:30am to an empty parking lot with low 40 degree temperatures. Soon after my arrival one other car and two hikers showed up. I began my hike just after 9am making my way north towards 300. The start of this hike is perfect, nice cruisey paths through wooded areas, the sounds of Christopher Creek, what more could you ask for? However, the last 1.5 miles up to the control road are a bit different. The trail begins to steepen and in spots gets a bit rockier. The weather had also shifted to a mix of high winds, rain, and graupel which then turned to a wet snow just before I made it to FR300. Once on the rim the temps had dropped to around 33/34 degrees but to be honest it was kind of relaxing and added to the adventure. Deciding not to head down into Bear Canyon due to the weather, I decided to cut through the forest from 300 over to 208 instead. While hiking on 208 it is noted that there are quite a few disbursed camping sites in the area with the presence of the filth wizard being strong. Yuck. I didn't expected anything less but it's not how I remember the area 15 years ago.
Once I got the the 208 TH I setup a temporary day camp, cleaned up the area I was camped in, relaxed for about an hour, and started my hike back to the car around 3:30pm.

Going back the the weather was a bit milder with temps warming to ~38 degrees and a light rain. The rain fizzled off around 4:30pm and the skies cleared up for the final two hours of the hike. I was a bit worried about a few sections of trail going back down See Canyon but it wasn't too bad. Some of the area got a little muddier than before but overall it was far easier going up than going down. A few slips/slides but no injuries. The evening light going into the canyon was nice end to the day and I should have grabbed a couple photos. First time up See Canyon and wont be the last, I will likely use this trail as a gateway to the rim for future hiking or backpacking trips.
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Apr 15 2021
LJW
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 Joined Jun 02 2019
 Phoenix, AZ
Bear - Woods Loop, AZ 
Bear - Woods Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Apr 15 2021
LJW
Hiking29.43 Miles 3,208 AEG
Hiking29.43 Miles   10 Hrs   24 Mns   3.13 mph
3,208 ft AEG   1 Hour    Break
 
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It's a fun challenge in April timing a rim lakes hike between the melting of the snow and the opening of FR300. Went as work permitted, and ended up going on the day 300 opened. Had The Rim to myself for most of the day. Wanted to loop Bear Canyon Lake and Woods Canyon Lake together and came up with this. Started at the Two Sixty TH around 8am and went clockwise.

Would have started at See Canyon, but I always save Highline for the end and wanted to give it a fair shake for it's best and most piney stretch. Mountain bike highway between the trailheads that winds between a brilliant forest of pine, fir, maple, and others.

See Canyon Trail had a little deadfall but wasn't as bad as last year. Water from Nappa Spring down and in the upper ~mile. some snow left in the canyon higher up but none on the trail. Decided to skip See Spring since it's familiar and there was so much else to see.

Topped out at FR300 and worked my way down Bear Canyon. Still a good amount of snow but nothing bad. Good flow of water. Just love it in that canyon, dense forest of huge conifers with interspersed meadows. Always a fun feeling seeing the lake at the bottom where the canyon opens up. Lake is full as I've seen it. Had it to myself and was going to walk round but decided to savor the south shore solitude instead. Left via the southeast drainage, which had less snow but a strong flow of water. Didn't hang around the bottom and worked up to the road SE and then up to FR84. Nobody on the road as I walked it.

Got down to Carr Loop which is not so much a trail but a road. Nice walk through the pines. Stopped at Carr Lake which was a nice stop, though won't draw crowds. Aspen Trail is similar but better somehow. Denser forest, the road is older or less maintained, so it feels less like walking on 300. Quite liked Aspen Trail but wasn't on it long before cutting over on Boulder Hop Trail to Gen Crook and the Hole-in-Ground area. Really beautiful area and probably my favorite part of the day. Beautiful weather for a break in the meadow and then off to Woods Canyon.

Woods Canyon is wider and easier than getting down Bear Canyon. Less snow, and there's a use trail the whole way down. Really scenic stretch of canyon from the road to the west of the lake. Planning on coming back and exploring east of the lake where there's a lot more to see. The trail around Woods Canyon Lake is in great shape with chevrons every so often. Really nice walk a couple hours before sunset. People were filing into the lake area, and I realized the road was opened. Rest of the trip was busy with car traffic.

Was going to continue through Woods past the dam and head to Sinkhole that way, but my feet were killing me. It's no shorter to use Meadow and Rim Vista, but those are less trails and more sidewalks, and I figured my feet would thank me. It's a really pretty section of open pine forest, but it was busy with car traffic.

Sinkhole was a nice way to end. Made for bikers, the tread is smooth and it's all downhill. It descends through the shade of pine trees. Got back down to the trailhead only having seen people in cars on the rimtop.

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Oct 31 2020
donqcryer
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 Payson, AZ &
See Canyon Trail #184Payson, AZ
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donqcryer
Hiking5.00 Miles 800 AEG
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well past peak and many trees going straight to brown without color. Just not a good year because of the drought. One good section at the beginning of trail on otherside of creek but won't be long before all leaves are gone.
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Hunting Fall Color, AZ 
Hunting Fall Color, AZ
 
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outdoor_lover
Hiking8.00 Miles 1,700 AEG
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3 Day Camping Trip in search of Fall Colors. See Foliage Report for Details. Met a Friend of mine and we checked out several locations including Washington Park, Bear Canyon, an area off FR 208 and part of See Canyon on Day 1. Also called in a Forest Fire starting below the Rim. Turned out to be a structure Fire near Haigler Creek and it was extinguished in short order as the smoke disappeared rather quickly. I was impressed as it looked like it could turn into a torcher pretty quick.

Day 2 had us hiking into See Spring only to be disappointed there. So we headed for Workman Creek. Color was better there, but still not what we hoped for.

Day 3 had us dinking around Workman some more, and then I started the trip home. Stopping in to visit my Aunt in Tonto Basin and staying around Roosevelt Lake in hopes of a Sunset. And by the way, for those interested, Big Daddy's Pizza is still open. Last time through there, they had it up for Sale over a year ago.

Decent Trip, but Fall is very irregular and unpredictable. Prime in a few spots, but not Prime just 1/2 mile away or 100 feet away. Storm Damage was evident in many places and killed Autumn in several places for good. My Friend stated that it had hailed on the Rim during the storm and it showed.

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Washington Park: Color at the first bridge had you celebrating, but it wasn't to be. Green as can be from there on up.
Bear Canyon Upper - West Bear: Done. Leaves on Trees are completely gone.
Top of the Rim is done. Nothing left to see unless you find a remote, protected pocket.
See Canyon: Prime at the Trailhead. Prime along lower Christopher Creek in places.
See Canyon Spring: Summer Green prevails with just a few changing here and there.
Workman Creek: Slopes are Prime. Aspens are Prime. Sycamores and Oaks looking good as well. Most Maples at the Water are still green. Creek is very low, Falls are trickling.

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Oct 22 2020
donqcryer
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 Payson, AZ &
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donqcryer
Hiking4.40 Miles 600 AEG
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I took 2 hikes from See Canyon TH. Foliage in the parking lot area is good but still pre peak. First hike went east on Highline. The first wash crossing after 15 minutes was still green. After 25 more minutes, you cross the second wash and enter the bottom of what should be call Foliage Canyon. The bottom was pre but with color, midway up had tons of color but still pre. Almost at the end of the maple / oak section of the canyon was full on Peak, and when you cross the next wash, the leaves were all brown and past peak. If one can find the old trail (hidden by FS with logs etc) it stays in the canyon bottom following the wash and color is EXTREME. I will upload a route for the old trail. Otherwise, as you go up the canyon, about 100' before the first switch back, look for a trail covered with logs that heads down to the wash. That is the old original trail and follows the wash up and rejoins the trail further up. I also did See Canyon Trail, except for a nice group of maples 2 minutes from the Highline Intersection and then again right after crossing the See Spring creek, there is little color and all very pre... Pics to follow...
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Oct 18 2020
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 Phoenix, AZ
See Canyon Trail #184Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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emilystardust
Hiking4.50 Miles 1,200 AEG
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Aug 15 2020
Ashleyannmarie
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 Phoenix, AZ
See Canyon Trail #184Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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Ashleyannmarie
Hiking6.90 Miles 1,874 AEG
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Beautiful rainy day heading to See Spring and then up See Canyon. Had about an hour thunderstorm in the middle of the hike which was nice, definitely cooled us off in the middle of the hike. As usual with this hike, encountered a few other hikers on the way to See Spring but as we headed up See Canyon didn’t come across anyone else. Trail is decently overgrown as you head up See Canyon, definitely kept an eye out for snakes. A few thorny bushes gave my legs some Arizona pinstriping as we got further up the rim.

Encountered some bear tracks and on our way back down ran into a huge elk. The animals are definitely out right now! Stopped at Christopher Creek as we headed back to the car and hung out in hammocks near the water for a bit as the sun set. Great hike with lots of solitude!
Jun 09 2020
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 Fountain Hills,
Bear Canyon Lake from See Canyon, AZ 
Bear Canyon Lake from See Canyon, AZ
 
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DixieFlyer
Hiking12.80 Miles 2,675 AEG
Hiking12.80 Miles   6 Hrs   17 Mns   2.45 mph
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I decided to get out of the Valley today and head up to the Rim Country and hike up to Bear Canyon Lake.

It was cool and quite windy at the See Canyon TH at the start of this hike, and it stayed that way all the way up to Bear Canyon Lake. We had the lake all to ourselves, so we hung out there for a while.

On the way back we went up to See Spring, and took a break there. It was VERY pleasant sitting around the spring area.

It was in the low 70's when we got back to the TH, which is a very nice June day in Arizona.

There was more deadfall on the trail than there has been in the past, so hopefully there will be some trail maintenance done sometime this summer.
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There was not much in the wildflower department -- orange western wallflower and yellow columbine were noteworthy, along with a few indian paintbrush.

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The lake is full right now

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I had to use stepping stones to keep my feet dry in 2-3 creek crossings. I almost called this "medium flow".

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Jun 08 2020
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 Chandler, AZ
Drew from See Canyon THPayson, AZ
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Yoder
Hiking11.10 Miles 2,200 AEG
Hiking11.10 Miles   4 Hrs   52 Mns   2.42 mph
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Break in the hot weather, so we made a quick run up to Payson. Saw the Alternate Route posted by JuanJaimeii (10.82 miles) and decided to go for it. It combines the Drew from See Canyon TH (3.6 miles) along with a walk on the rim (4.0 miles) followed by See Spring Trail #185 (3.5 miles)

The Drew trail is less traveled and a bit overgrown, but markers on the trees and the worn trail made for pretty easy following 2/5?.

Hike on the Rim was straight forward also, started with trail again following the tree markers. Eventually this gets on a road with various campsites for a while before intersecting with the Drew hike.

The Drew hike is well defined, and has a couple more nice scenic views.

Started at about 4:45 and finished up at about 9:30. Great morning hike!
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Jun 04 2020
JuanJaimeiii
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 Chandler, AZ
Drew from See Canyon THPayson, AZ
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JuanJaimeiii
Hiking10.82 Miles 1,990 AEG
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When I was at Brown's Peak last weekend one of the girls had asked me if I had done See Canyon. I told her I had done it a few times and that I enjoyed doing it as a loop with Drew. Anyway that planted the seed for me to go do it today. It was a little warm up there but overall very nice and the temps seemed to hover around the mid to high 80's. There were some wild strawberries on the See Canyon trail that were mighty tasty. Up top along the rim I saw several folks camping. Then as I started down the Drew I saw three large elk. Views from Drew Canyon are always impressive but See is my favorite of the two. Just a good solid hike all the way around.
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Jun 03 2020
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 Saddlebrooke, AZ
Drew Highline See Cyn General Crook Loop, AZ 
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Hiking11.62 Miles 1,990 AEG
Hiking11.62 Miles   7 Hrs   5 Mns   1.97 mph
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It was a warm early June time frame. We were camping at the Canyon Point campground on the Mogollon Rim at 7700 feet elevation. Thus we wanted to start our hike on the Drew Trail where it crosses a forest road in a campground. No real trail head parking so we parked along the road.

It was about a mile down the Drew trail to the Highline Trail. Great views along the way, but a bit steep on the toes. Sure glad we weren't hiking the other direction and finishing this climb in the hot afternoon. Even though we started a little after 7am, it was already plenty warm when we reached the Highline trail. The Drew trail was in better shape than I expected. Most maps and trail web sites show it as a pretty minor and little used trail. No trail finding needed here.

2.5 miles later we found ourselves at the junction of See Canyon trail, which is along Christopher Creek, a really pleasant, heavily wooded area. A good source of water if you need some. 0.7 miles later is the junction of the See Springs trail. We ventured up there to some small cascades that other people called a falls. So far up he See Canyon trail is was a pretty nice trail. Not long afterward that trail got a lot tougher. And then it got rockier. And then it got steeper. While the last 3 miles on the See Canyon trail may have been only a 1500 foot climb, it was pretty slow going, with several downed trees and slippery rocks.

Once we reached the crest at the General Crook trail we looked for a place to have lunch. The temperature was in the low 80s by now, and probably the low 80s in the last 2 hours as we climbed up hill. The last stretch on the General Crook trail was mostly pretty easy. Not much elevation change, a mix of 2 track and 1 track, due to the nature of it being an old road. But it was a little rockier than I thought it would be.
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May 05 2020
rayhuston
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 Gilbert, AZ
See Canyon Trail #184Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar May 05 2020
rayhuston
Hiking7.22 Miles 1,787 AEG
Hiking7.22 Miles   3 Hrs   59 Mns   1.87 mph
1,787 ft AEG      7 Mns Break
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The mile plus on FR289 is rougher than normal, but there was a road crew working on it when I left. Campsites are bing used (I said campgrounds at first) but the restrooms were not open.

I was surprised that I hadn't been on this trail in nearly three years. I must have forgotten how steep it is, especially the last mile to rim road. That's just mean. That's when I quote John Muir: "People ought to saunter in the mountains - not 'hike!" A saunter was the best I could do today.

In spite of the daunting incline, this is one of my faves and I try to hike it at least once during the summer. There is a fair amount of downed trees on the trail but not terrible. One section about two miles in is chewed up a bit. The rest of the trail is in pretty good shape.

I started early today (8:30). Temps still in the low 60's with a nice breeze. This trail is hard enough without adding in the heat factor. I planned to check See Spring on the way back down but I had a good enough workout already. I'm sure it was flowing in abundance; there was quite a bit of water in the creeks down low. The lovely melody of continuous birdsong was also in abundance.

I spoke with a fisherman from the Valley getting ready to try his luck on Christopher Creek and two hikers heading up as I was finishing up. Otherwise I had this all to myself. Since everyday is like Saturday for me at the moment, why not go on Tuesday.

It was absolutely gorgeous throughout the hike. No humidity and no bugs. It's a good springtime hike right now.
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Wildflowers Observation None
Closer to none than isolated.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Nappa Spring Quart per minute Quart per minute
Nice campsite adjacent to the spring.
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Apr 19 2020
LindaAnn
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 Ahwatukee, AZ
Drew Bear See, AZ 
Drew Bear See, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Apr 19 2020
LindaAnn
Hiking15.63 Miles 2,528 AEG
Hiking15.63 Miles   6 Hrs   57 Mns   2.49 mph
2,528 ft AEG      41 Mns Break
 
1st trip
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Started a little after 0730 to nice cool temps. Headed east from the See Canyon trailhead, crossed Christopher Creek, then picked up Highline on the other side of the creek. East on Highline, which is fairly easy hiking, gradual ups and downs, reaching Drew at the 2.50 mile mark. Turned left and headed up Drew. Despite the elevation gain on Drew, I always find it to be pleasant, with a steady incline. At the top, we headed west on FR9350. Passed one abandoned campsite with a still smoldering fire. After mostly taking care of that, we continued west, eventually turning onto Gen Crook trail. At FR208, we took that north for two miles, then down to Bear Canyon Lake, where we had lunch. Back south on 208, then west to the top of See Canyon. Steep descent down See, with many downed trees to get around/over/under—hopefully those will be cleared soon. The last mile or two on See gradually leveled out and made for a pleasant finish to the loop. Nice temps all day, a little warm at times, but the breeze helped.
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Wildflowers Observation Isolated

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Herman Spring Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute
Plenty of water here

dry Nappa Spring Dry Dry
Didn’t spend much time looking, but the entire vicinity looked dry.
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Apr 16 2020
LJW
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 Joined Jun 02 2019
 Phoenix, AZ
Promontory Butte - Bear Canyon Lake Loop, AZ 
Promontory Butte - Bear Canyon Lake Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Apr 16 2020
LJW
Hiking27.56 Miles 4,800 AEG
Hiking27.56 Miles   12 Hrs   21 Mns   2.95 mph
4,800 ft AEG   3 Hrs    Break
 
1st trip
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I did this loop in August last year without Bear Canyon Lake and thought it would make a nice addition during the cooler months. A friend and I took the loop clockwise starting around 6:30am at the Derrick trailhead.

Horton Creek was in great shape, thanks in part to a biker we met who kept stopping to toss rocks off the side of the trail. Shady in the early morning and over quickly. Stopped at the spring before heading up Highline. Strong flow of water in the creek and from the spring.

Up and down on Highline to Promontory, and it was pretty easy going. Highline was probably the best maintained trail on the day. Promontory on the other hand was slippery with pine needles and loose rock. Took a while to make it up the steep climb to top of the rim where we took a short break before heading across the rim to Promontory Butte's highpoint.

Hung out at the high point for a while before heading through the forest to FR76 and taking that to FR300. 76 is closed to motorized traffic, so we didn't see anyone on Promontory Butte. I thought 300 was still closed and there wouldn't be any traffic around the lake, but I guess it opened in the week before. Saw our second group of people car camped where 300 meets 76.

Went straight across 300 into Bear Canyon and followed the water down. The hike in Bear Canyon was probably my favorite part of the trip, along with the lake itself. Gentle flow of water and the travel was pretty easy with little brush and deadfall to contend with. The canyon widened out as it went down and revealed meadows and clearings that wouldn't be out of place in the White Mountains.

Took the Lake Trail around to the little rocky isthmus on the south shore. Bear Canyon Lake was as full as I've seen it, and the old timers at the lake who were more familiar made similar statements. Most of the people we saw on the day were at the lake. A couple people on floats fishing, and a couple families hanging out fishing around the shore.

From the lake we took the Lake Trail up to FR208 and headed back toward 300. Cut corners through the forest to shorten the trip to See Canyon's upper trailhead. See Canyon has significant deadfall higher up and a little bit farther down the canyon as well. Good flow of water, a little at the top a lot toward the bottom. Saw a few turkeys in See Canyon and one person out taking pictures near the lower th.

Climbed up Highline as the sun was getting low. Flew down the smooth Highline trail to Derrick where the tread is rough higher up but not so bad farther down. Saw a half dozen elk near the bottom of Derrick as the sun started to set. Made it back before dark having only seen two hikers/bikers the whole trip.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Bear Canyon Lake 76-100% full 76-100% full

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Horton Creek Medium flow Medium flow

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Nov 09 2019
jtaylor
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 Gilbert, AZ
See Canyon Trail #184Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Nov 09 2019
jtaylor
Hiking5.20 Miles 1,000 AEG
Hiking5.20 Miles
1,000 ft AEG
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1st trip
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First leg of my adventure with Andrew. He chose See Spring at the fork and we didn't see any relatively secluded campsites. None when we backtracked and went left either. We were both done at that point. So it was a day hike with 30-40 lbs. Oh well!
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