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Nov 15 2020
trekkin_gecko
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63 female
 Joined Nov 17 2008
 phoenix, az
Azt #2 & #3, AZ 
Azt #2 & #3, AZ
 
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trekkin_gecko
Backpack30.20 Miles 3,800 AEG
Backpack30.20 Miles2 Days         
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two day backpack of azt passages two and three
john and i utilized ken's shuttle service to go from patagonia to parker canyon lake

day one:
got going around 0815 sunday morning
canelo hills east was scenic with rolling hills, distant mountain views and a variety of trees
we stopped for a coffee break about halfway to canelo pass
think we saw three thru-hikers on this part
public water was available at the trailhead, so we grabbed a couple of liters
after a short break, we continued on canelo hills west, intending to filter at down under tank and then find a place to camp
the trail is nice for a couple miles, then catclaw encroaches on the trail and covers the hillsides
several miles of this passage were not very pretty
went on to the cott enclosed area, and got four liters from the spigot before the solar powered pump stopped working due to lack of sun
between lack of appealing campsites and not having quite enough water, we continued on to red bank well, which had good water amid a lot of cows
found a campsite just after that, leaving us with about half an hour to set up
the stars were unbelievable without any moonlight, and even the milky way was visible
temps dropped quickly, so we settle into our tents early
my coffee filter had ice crystals on it in the morning :o
survived the night in my 30 degree bag, wearing a short sleeve, long sleeve, fleece, puffy and beanie
could use some base layer pants under my nylon ones
good learning experience - always like to practice backpacking

day two:
coffee and oatmeal, packed up and set out around 0715
cold in the drainage, and still not very nice trail
things warmed up and the scenery improved after a couple of miles
good views of red mountain and the santa ritas at times
saw a few thru-hikers and three day hikers
dropped down to harshaw road
not the most exciting finish, but at least there wasn't much traffic
finished up and headed for the cafe in sonoita
good green chile burger and sweet potato fries - highly recommended :)

i like the shorter second days
new gear for this trip included a smart wool beanie and a mont bell wind shirt
nice to get a couple more passages done
thanks john, another great trip!

*route scout mileage seemed a little high again, so i'm using stats from guthooks and the haz description page
there has been a slight reroute on passage #3 and the official route is just a bit off

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Cott Tank 51-75% full 51-75% full
pump is solar powered
no sun = no water

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Down Under Tank 51-75% full 51-75% full
good enough water
cows trample around the edges

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Parker Canyon Creek @ AZT 2 Medium flow Medium flow

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Parker Canyon Lake 51-75% full 51-75% full
just a guess, i don't know how full it should be
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johnlp
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64 male
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 chandler,az
Azt #2 & #3, AZ 
Azt #2 & #3, AZ
 
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johnlp
Backpack30.20 Miles 3,800 AEG
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Finally knocked these two AZT segments out. Been on the list since the crazy adventure I had with JJ doing segment #1 in 2012. Kelly and I secured a shuttle from Patagonia up to Parker Canyon Lake Sunday morning. Saw an antelope, a bunch of deer, and about 15 turkeys on the ride there.
We got started hiking Sunday morning to very nice cool temps on segment #2 Canelo Hills East. The miles passed by quickly. We stopped to brew some fresh coffee and chat with a few thru hikers who were excited to reach Mexico soon.
Water was available for public consumption at the Canelo Pass #2/#3 trailhead, which was nice as it has been so dry. We pushed on into segment #3 to reach at least the halfway mark of our backpack. We passed Down Under Tank through a gauntlet of catclaw. We grabbed some water at the Cott well, but it stopped pumping while we were there as the sun left the solar panels. Red Bank was the next water so off we went. The water at Red Bank is tasty though getting to it amid the mass of cow pies is nasty.
Shortly after we found a camp site as the sun had set and daylight would be soon gone. Awesome cold starry night.
Following breakfast, we packed up and headed out for Patagonia. Most of the rest of segment #3 is a little lacking in trail quality and scenery. We arrived in Patagonia late morning as temps had warmed 50 degrees since we started.
Another fun backpack with the gecko. Thanks Kelly. :)
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Apr 18 2020
adv_trev
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 Joined Oct 01 2005
 Queen Creek, AZ
Huachuca Mountains - AZT #1Tucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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adv_trev
Hiking20.60 Miles 5,090 AEG
Hiking20.60 Miles
5,090 ft AEG25 LBS Pack
 
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52 miles in 49 hours hiking the Arizona Trail sections 1, 2, and 3. Starting in the Mexican border and to Patagonia where my motorcycle is waiting for me. Thanks Logan for the shuttle ride. AZT 2 has been rerouted and my map has the updated cords.

On day one I started at the Mexican border and followed the ridge line of the huachucas until I dropped down to Parker canyon lake.
Day two was in the hills and a really long hard day. I was running low on water and found this cattle pond. I really didn't want to get water there but I haven't seen water for a while. I attempted to get water but the mud was too deep. I tried stepping on some drag marks thinking they might be more sturdy but I couldn't do it. I started hiking down the canyon and saw what made the drag marks. It was a dead cow. Maybe a lion dragged it out of there. So glad I didn't drink that water.
Half day three was the easiest and pretty uneventful except I think I found a meteorite 🤞
I saw a kit fox, mearns quail, cous, and a Gould Turkey. Not one snake until I got home and there was one in my driveway.
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Bathtub (Tub) Spring
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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Bathtub (Tub) Spring Quart per minute Quart per minute
Good flow, fresh water. I didn't filter and it tasted great.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Scotia Canyon Pools to trickle Pools to trickle
Hit and miss, but plenty of water

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Sunnyside Canyon @ AZT Pools to trickle Pools to trickle
Hit and miss, but plenty of water
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Mar 21 2020
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 Joined Oct 21 2016
 Tempe, AZ
Canelo Hills East - AZT #2Tucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
Hiking avatar Mar 21 2020
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Hiking26.52 Miles 2,964 AEG
Hiking26.52 Miles   13 Hrs   32 Mns   2.10 mph
2,964 ft AEG      55 Mns Break
 
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What can I say about this hike that may be useful to others? Probably nothing haha. This was my best friend's birthday hike, an incredibly uncertain time of Covid ((March 21) one friend getting texts the whole hike saying life was about to shut down & we were all going into lock down - obviously that didn't happen), the hardest I have laughed & most fun camping night I have had in longer then I can remember, the last time I hugged people I don't live with, those cinnamon hills, chubby coati, finally getting a trail name! and...so many happy memories in one hike! I guess this trail log will have to serve as one of happy trail memories instead of useful information. : wink :
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CannondaleKid
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 Joined May 04 2004
 Mesa, AZ
AZT #3 from Harshaw TH, AZ 
AZT #3 from Harshaw TH, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Dec 07 2019
CannondaleKid
Hiking8.60 Miles 1,908 AEG
Hiking8.60 Miles   4 Hrs   7 Mns   2.22 mph
1,908 ft AEG      15 Mns Break20 LBS Pack
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Out & back from Harshaw TH. Nice weather, no wildlife, no humans, nothing special. Just adding a few more AZT miles for Tracey.
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Oct 27 2019
toddak
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56 male
 Joined Nov 15 2005
 Puhoynix, AZ
Canelo Hills West - AZT #3Tucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
Hiking avatar Oct 27 2019
toddak
Hiking29.00 Miles 4,000 AEG
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Day 2 of 3 to finish the AZT. After a rest day at the very relaxing Spirit Tree Inn, continued SOBO combining the wonderful Canelo Hills passages on a very windy day. Water: Down Under and Trap Tanks close to full with intermittent flows in the drainages below.
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Down Under Tank

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Down Under Tank 76-100% full 76-100% full

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Trap Tank - Canelo 76-100% full 76-100% full
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Mar 10 2019
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 Sierra Vista
Canelo Hills West - AZT #3Tucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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clyde_joelle
Hiking16.20 Miles 1,550 AEG
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Mar 01 2019
Hippy
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 Joined Dec 02 2009
 Grand Canyon
Arizona Trail 2019, AZ 
Arizona Trail 2019, AZ
 
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Backpack152.00 Miles
Backpack152.00 Miles17 Days         
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Started at Mexico March 1st.
C/p'd below are notes from my journal.

Surprisingly clean toilet at Montezuma Pass.
2 Border Patrol agents dayhiked to Miller, guy with cool mustache his dad works as Head Boiler Tech at El Tovar. Neat.
Running out of light, stopped early. Absolutely gorgeous views Mexico! Beautiful San Pedro Valley. Shoes working out great!
Met hikers “Steady”(f), “Golden” (m, hasher name “Golden Pee Showers”), “Stump”(m) and “Mandolin”(f) (last two shared our campsite).
Walk the Moon Avalanche song stuck in head.



March 2
met “Gourmet”(f) who did PCT in 2017 and Adam who is doing sections of AZT to train for PCT! stopped at Bathtub Spring together.
Waited for Jamie (he did Miller Peak) at Carr Jct, met up here 1:30pm. Still so windy. Absolutely stunning juniper sheltering two or three other trees, amazing! Old rusty stuff and some saw marks on juniper. Someone must have used her branches for firewood. But she is still huge. Gorgeous tree, she is sheltering our tent tonight. Will thank her properly tonight and in morning. SO windy, very chilly. Shoes and socks soaked from snow, so cold. Temp was 40° at 3am, wind-chill lowered it but inside the tent was 45°!
Neil Young's Old Man’ stuck in my head today.


March 3
Happy birthday Tavi (my daughter) no signal yet, will call her tomorrow even though I called her before we left on March 1st.
Hike 11.8 miles. Camp is Calm, no wind, warm, barely need a puffy coat, perfectly flat, right next to a gentle trickling creek, we'll have morning sun, there was a perfect little firering we made a very small fire in just to enjoy the scent and aesthetically pleasing flickering flame as the sun sunk low over the horizon. I am relaxed. Coyotes tonight.


March 4
Hiked 12 miles. There's a point when you've been walking in silence...thinking...and suddenly you think you've thunk every thought there was to think! Then you ponder on that and go down another rabbit hole of wonderment.
Running low on cheez-its Jamie's looking mighty tasty today.
If you want to train for a couple Grand Canyon rim to rim's, training on the Arizona Trail would definitely be wise. Conversely if you want to train for the Arizona Trail a couple rim to rims would be wise.


March 5, 2019
Day 5
Hiked 13.3 miles. Really don't want blister to deal with yet! Feet. On. Fire. Hotspot on right foot is getting way worse,why is it always the same spot?? Lots of breaks to dry out foot, taped it up too. Note to self- injinji toe socks. Must. Have.


March 6


March 7, 2019
Day 7
Hiked 11-12 miles Gonna mail food ahead to Colossal Cave. Saw another hiker outside wearing a Moenkopi shirt! He had a sexy Aussie accent and told us about his 21 day private trip, his backpack was massive. Jamie thinks I want to see him again just to hear his voice, he's not wrong. Found an old toilet in the forest. Saw two cow calfs nursing,the black baby cow stopped to look at us and had a big white milk mustache! So adorable.


March 8, 2019
Day 8
Hiked 10.8 miles Cloudy day so much wind almost zero sun hitting us all day. Water flowing great in garden Cyn creek. Lots to drink!! Fell asleep within 30mins of setting up tent.


March 9, 2019
Day 9
Hiked 15.5 miles
Brrrrr. Birds making every sound imaginable when sun hit tree tops. Nice waking up to such innocent wildlife again.
Ran into “Two Step” he was SoBo section told us there's food at Kentucky Camp. “Warden” passed us while we breaked a mile from KC said his knee was bum so he's taking it easy. Nice guy from Alaska. Met Matt B. (Shin splints guy) at Kentucky Camp, shared salami with him hiked a while with TikTok(m), Cookie and Cashmere (f & f) a badass trio.
Will is gonna meet us at Twin Tanks and Emily Hansen is gonna ride by and say hi (she also brought me some injinji toe socks!)
Gorgeous views of rolling hills today decent wind but not too bad. Sunset was spectacular!
Tonight the northern horizon glows a soft salmon pinkish orange like a sunset 3 hours late.
I got up to pee and was struck by the darkness of the night sky above me. Every star imaginable seems out tonight. The gentle glow of Tucson to the north stopped just low enough to allow the stars to POP on their own. The entire 360° view from camp tonight is like some sort of long exposure photo from sunrise to darkness and star light. I've tried to describe it best I can with words but only having stood beside me and having seen it with your own eyes would make you understand. It was beautiful.


March 10, 2019
Day 10
Hiked 14 miles. Camped at Twin Tanks azt mile 100. 10mi a day average feels good and comfortable. Had some longer days with easier terrain and shorter days with exhausting uphill and snow. Met “One Step” he's from Maine. Met “Ridge Route”(m) and “Shortcut”(f) from San Diego. Will found us about 2 miles from Twin Tanks! He brought fried chicken haha Will is awesome and super glad to have him along! His trailname is Ullward (Ullward and upward! I would yell every day we were together)
“One step” and another guy are camped nearby. Lots of cows.



March 11,2019
Day 11
Hike 6mi to Sahuarita hwy83 jct.
Arch hurts. Met “Cake” (m), “Warden”, and Shin Splints Matt showed up too. Emily Hansen is gonna come find us when she finishes her bike ride and drive us somewhere. Wonder how many ppl we can fit in her truck haha
Cake said he has two friends who are gonna work at the North Rim, John and Ellen. Can't wait to meet them. Trying to convince him to come up too haha Met “Rainbow Dash”(f) at Trailhead here she's hitching up to Tucson too.
Staying at fancy schmancy Omni Resort in Tucson with Will (he's amazing! I really enjoy hanging with him I hope he knows that), Emily Hansen joined us too. Zero day tomorrow thank goodness, my left arch is really hurting me. It's swollen and flat, like the arch collapsed or something. After 100 miles I'd collapse too...lol Emily is my hero. I cannot thank her enough for her kindness and support.
Shin Splints Matt crawled into the BearBox at Sahuarita JCT and I laughingly called him "Bear Box", that's his trailname now.
After we met "Rainbow Dash" someone mentioned thinking her name was Lightning Princess, shortly thereafter BearBox gave me my trailname of "Lightning Princess".

((Note BearBox had to pull off trail later on north, he took the summer off then returned to finish the AZT NoBo, he caught up with Jamie and I while we were working on the North Rim and attended our annual Halloween party up there. Cool reunion))



March 13, 2019
Day 13
Hiked 6.4 miles to Cienega Creek, camp below beautiful cottonwood atAZT mile 113.1
Great water source. Right next to railroad tracks.
Annette Feagans dropped us of at trailhead 1pm!!
“Stump” and “Mandolin” were dropped at same time.
Made it to the snake tunnel shortly and met “Worm” aka Mike. We saw him in Kentucky camp earlier too. Got some great photos of Ullward (Will). He's so fun to hike with. Went a few miles further to creek setup camp early at 4:30, today is a great day for my foot so took it easy. New inserts doing good so far. “Golden” showed up in Cienega Creek just now, he's gonna camp by us cool! He said he's shooting for Oracle by Monday wow! Big days ahead. He's not a fan of snow on the mtns either. We'll see.


March 14
Day 14
Hiked 13.3 miles to camp in Rincon creek at azt mile 126.3
Camping with Bluebird & Tiny Dancer, Mandolin & Stump. Good group!
Met Good Name/Ole Gramps(?) At Colossal Cave. I took a 45 min tour with Guide Savannah it was $18 and tax. I had margaritas...i want to then give the whole trail and report back on every margarita that is accessible from the trail. Camped at Rincon creek with Tiny Dancer, Bluebird, Mandolin and Stump.


March 15,2019
Day 15
Hiked 9 miles. Camp at Grass Shack Campground at azt mile 135.3
Left foot hurts so bad I was having dreams about walking and falling and rolling my ankle. Absolutely ridiculous. Contemplating getting off trail for a few days and bunking up in Oracle somehow...managed to.hike to.grass shack really well. Right around 9 miles foot starts swelling and really hurting. Limped into camp, very beautiful camp. Will was happy to stop too,that was a haul up and it got chilly fast. Tent pitched, I nooked up and dove into a book faster than necessary. Also ate too much and threw up in the toilet up trail...oops.


March 16
Day 16
Hiked 8.9 miles, camp outside Saguaro NP boundary at amazing overlook at AZT mile 144.2
Met “Snow” (f) she mentioned something cookie shop in Summerhaven. Must get Choco chip cookies! She is traveling is with “Barrel”(m). They passed us and moseyed on down trail at a charge.
First 2 miles up to Manning from Grass Shack was okay last 2 to Manning destroyed my foot SO much pain.
Another two to summit then two down to NP boundary and just beyond to awesome campsite. It's tight fit snug for two tents but whatever we're all friends here.


March 17
Day 17
Hiked 8 miles to Redington Pass.
Really struggling with left foot. Emptied water from pack to lighten load. Ate as much food as possible this morning to lighten load. Foot has CBD balm on it, wrapped, no blisters, downhill for 8 miles which you'd think would be a blessing but any weight at all causes agony to the left foot. Can I just chopped it off and clone my right foot?


As of March 17 I hiked 152 miles of the AZ Trail before I jury caused me to leave trail. I spent the rest of March, April and May babying the left foot. It was not until July 2019 that the foot could handle miles and weight again. Unfortunately by then i was working full time at Glen Canyon NRA for the National Park Service and it was as hot as Phoenix up there and I worked all sorts of crazy hours.

I'm editing his log in early November, that left foot of mine is much better and ready to get back at it. Let's hope it stays in shape while I train it with a pack this winter.


Jamie and I spent the next week with Will (Ullward) and I spiraled into a post-hike/failed attempt depression. I'm sure I wasn't very fun to be around though I tried to stay positive.
We traveled southern AZ from the Chiricahuas to Picacho to Tombstone then found ourselves in Kanab, Utah to retrieve our vehicle and belongings thanks to Will. He's a wonderful Friend and I'm happy to have spent the time we did together and hope we all get together again soon.


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Nov 25 2018
ShatteredArm
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38 male
 Joined Nov 30 2015
 Phoenix, AZ
Canelo Hills West - AZT #3Tucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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ShatteredArm
Run/Jog16.18 Miles 1,115 AEG
Run/Jog16.18 Miles   3 Hrs   24 Mns   4.78 mph
1,115 ft AEG      1 Min Break
 
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Had some company on passage 3 of the AZT, a friend from Tucson joined in on the fun, which made the shuttle to the start easy. Figured this would be a more mellow passage, since it's generally downhill in the west direction.

The climbs were also pretty mellow, there's just one at the start, and another later in the passage before you get to Harshaw Road.

Redrock Canyon had some decent stretches too.
Harshaw Road sucks, but according to the AZT website, they're planning on eventually replacing this with actual singletrack (not sure if that means the trail will no longer go through Patagonia).

Overall, not a bad day, and you get to finish in the nice little town of Patagonia.
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 Tucson, Arizona
Candelerio and Kunde Peaks, AZ 
Candelerio and Kunde Peaks, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Oct 29 2018
markthurman53
Hiking13.41 Miles 2,802 AEG
Hiking13.41 Miles   8 Hrs   13 Mns   2.33 mph
2,802 ft AEG   2 Hrs   27 Mns Break15 LBS Pack
 
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I was planning to do some hiking in the Superstitions but since the temps were going to be in the upper 80’s, I changed my plans. Also wasn’t sure if I was up to a 19 miler after just getting over a cold/flu/allergies, not sure what it was. What I needed was a more local hike that I could bail out on if I wasn’t up to it. I searched the HAZ data base and came up with a couple options that I haven’t done before (actually came up with a bucket load). Love that option to search HAZ hikes by National forest and regions. I decided on two hikes along the Arizona Trail #3 near Patagonia; Candelerio Peak and Kunde Mountain posted by AZHiker456. These were posted as two separate hikes but I figured since they are both close by I would combine them. I have mentioned before that I am not a peak person but Kunde Mountain caught my eye a couple years back while hiking this portion of the Arizona Trail so why not. Candelerio Peak was thrown in just because it was nearby.

From the AZT #3 at Harshaw road I headed east for 3.7 miles to Red Rock Canyon Road. It has been a while since I was on such a nice trail and with the exception of picture taking and site seeing made good time. At the crossing of Red Rock Canyon Road I headed north for 1.1 miles and turned east toward Candelerio Peak on FR 4602 for 1.7 miles to the peak. Not a real interesting portion of the hike but the going is good. Once at the base of Candelerio Peak I headed up the northwest slope taking advantage of the old road that heads up to the summit. The road is a bit overgrown but easier than bush whacking. Good views all around from the summit, Santa Rita’s to the north in the distance and Red Mountain, Ashburn, Kunde, Indian Head Mountains closer by. Pretty much all of Red Rock Canyon is also visible. There is great cell service on top. Don’t know if they mined anything up on this peak but there are exploratory sites probably assessing the copper that colors the rocks on the top. I headed straight down the southern slope of Candelerio Peak and back to the Arizona Trail. This portion is mostly Bushwhacking but nothing terrible. This route is 1 mile to the AZT versus the 2.8 miles I came in on (45 minutes vs 1 hour).

Kunde Mountain has great views as did Candelerio Peak with better views of Huachuca Mountains and on a clear day as today Mount Lemmon and Rincon Peak. The climb up this peak I thought was tough. I Climbed up the southeast slope where the remnants of an old road going to the peak still barely exists. The road forms a Backward “Z”, catching this road at the upper zig in the road is highly recommended. This road on the lower slopes is pretty much nonexistent but on Google Earth the lower part of the “Z” can be seen and it might be better to catch the lower part of the road and do both the zig and the zag. I say this because bush whacking up the slope, while no real bushes to whack is rocky and covered in grass making it hard to navigate, especially when you’re winded. I headed for the zig in the road but never saw it and continued in an easterly direction where the road supposedly goes. I had to cross two rock slide areas that were what I considered dangerous especially since I was alone. These rock fields were unstable so as you crossed, the rocks below would slide and a few rocks above would move down to take their place. Just as I was thinking I might want to abandon this peak I looked down about 50 feet and there was the road. Not much of a road but it was easy walking once I got on it. This road will continue all the way to the peak. The top of the peak has a bluish grey mineral that I am unfamiliar with. It is hard to believe that at one time someone had a bull dozer up here, not much room to maneuver or turn around. I took a 30 minute break on top before heading down, this time down a gully on the southwest slope. This wasn’t much faster than going up except not as winded but the legs were more tired from fighting gravity. This was one of those few times I felt like a walking pole would have been useful for stability. I spent a lot of time on my butt, usually not voluntarily. Once off of Kunde slope I headed down a ridge and back to the AZT and Harshaw Road.

This was a good hike, lots of AEG, some hiking along excellent trails, a little road walking and some bush whacking. Other than the two hours on Kunde Mountain going two miles I felt pretty good the whole way, guess what ever was ailing me the last two weeks is gone.
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garyc57
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 Mesa, AZ
Canelo Hills West - AZT #3Tucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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garyc57
Hiking2.88 Miles 17 AEG
Hiking2.88 Miles      59 Mns   2.98 mph
17 ft AEG      1 Min Break
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Just a road walk - from the trailhead out on Harshaw Avenue to the post office.

The road was a little busy, but there was almost always room to step to the side when a car came by. Just plan ahead.

There was a nice breeze, and the occasional cloud that made walking nice.
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Canelo Hills West - AZT #3Tucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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Sredfield
Backpack16.20 Miles 1,550 AEG
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Section crew did this over the weekend. Very nice, but for the TP 6 feet off the trail; and the mile east of Harshaw Road is ugly.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Cott Tank Exclosure - Red Rock Cyn 1-25% full 1-25% full
The faucet worked for us.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Down Under Tank 1-25% full 1-25% full
Lots of good water to share with the cows.

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We watered up at the cattle tank under the Ronstadt Hardware Windmill.
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Apr 29 2018
tibber
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 Phoenix, AZ
Canelo Hills West - AZT #3Tucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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Hiking6.53 Miles 665 AEG
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After an eventful night in the tent for me with having to blow up my air pad four times, we had decided the previous nite to get on the trail by 6:30AM so that we could have a late breakfast in Patagonia... well actually pie and ice cream. We started hiking at 6:40AM. There's not much opportunity to warm up your legs as you have to tackle two hills, one a bit bigger than the other. But at least it was cooler to start so we made pretty good time. You have some nice views as you contour around some of the hills and go up a little and down a little. The first mile and 1/2 seemed to take longer than normal but it really wasn't.

On this section of the single trail it did have some steep sections as far as terrain into drainages and some of the switchbacks were a bit steep as well. In fact, Shawn stopped at one to show us that everything that could be wrong with a particular switchback construction was evidenced here. We crossed over a couple really red rock areas. In the distance you could see Red Mountain too. As we neared the saddle we encountered a waterless hiker out for a stroll which is about a mile from the trailhead; the only person we would see on this 14 mile trek before the paved Harshaw Road.

We rested at the saddle for a moment as I needed to adjust my pack. My pack rode well yesterday but I was struggling a bit today which I don't understand. From there it was down and down and down to the valley below. It was warming up again so I was glad we got started early. Some pretty area through here with the mesquite trees scattered about. We finally hit the Road and went over to check out the TH sign. It's quite nice but seems an odd place to put it rather than at the end/beginning of the single track. But maybe being in this big lot more people might see it and learn about the Arizona Trail.

And now for the 3 1/2 mile or so pavement walk. I knew it was going to be long and it was. Fortunately it's easy walking and you can walk and gawk. It was interesting on the south side of the road that they had actually built up concrete to stop the water from slamming into the road when the Harshaw Creek is flowing good. And of course there's the tip toe across the cattle guards which is never any fun. We stopped and visited the Longhorns that were for sale.

And alas, Tonto Jr was in sight. Now for that pie and ice cream, at least for three of us. So onto the Gathering Grounds where Shawn had strawberry peach with two scoops, Tracy had rhubarb and I had blueberry rhubarb. We girls had one scoop but decided 1 1/2 scoops would last as long as the pie. The pies were most excellent as was Ambika's breakfast croisant sandwich. The coffee is good too. It was a busy place. Then it was time to unwind the shuttle and we all actually got home at a reasonable time for a weekend backpack.

In case anyone is wondering, the Arizona Trail Section Crew is 1/2 way done with the AZT and after this upcoming weekend we will have done more miles on the AZT than each of the last 3 years (it's hard when four people are working to get our schedules to mesh plus we can't do the high daily hiking miles so we have to break it up a bit more).

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Kunde Mountain Red Mountain
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Apr 28 2018
tibber
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 Phoenix, AZ
Canelo Hills West - AZT #3Tucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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tibber
Hiking10.40 Miles 669 AEG
Hiking10.40 Miles   6 Hrs   50 Mns   2.10 mph
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We were going to do this one last month but the nightly low would have been in the 30s, too nippy for us. So we did Passage 10 instead and now it was time to do Passage 3. We knew the temps would be a little warm in the day but by the afternoon, it was hot.

After work on Friday we met up off the I-10 and then drove to Patagonia but not before getting caught up in waiting for a traffic accident to clear. We feel lucky they got the freeway going in about 20 minutes as the accident was on both sides of the road and involved about a dozen emergency vehicles. Next we had dinner at Teresa's Mosaic Cafe off of Grant Road. I had eaten there previously. It is a good place for Mexican food coming or going. A little over an hour later we arrived at the Stage Stop Inn; very easy check-in. It's a cute place with a nice courtyard and a restaurant.


The next morning we were lucky that Tracy had found a place that opened at 7AM for breakfast. So glad too because the food at Gathering Grounds was unbelievably good and a hearty way to start the morning of our hike. We left Tonto Jr at the Stage Stop Inn and then drove to the southern Canelo Hills Pass TH where we got started at about 9:05. We checked out a Forest Service sign that said Red Tank Well was 9.25 miles which would be perfect for our last water source before camp. We were surprised by this as both Shawn and I thot it was more around the 7 mile mark. I was thinking we would use Gate Spring as our last water source but Shawn said it wasn't reliable. We would discover that the sign is VERY WRONG.

We got to get our hiking legs before starting the mild 200 foot climb up a saddle. You had pretty nice views in both directions as you normally do from a saddle. We arrived there around 9:35 and there was a gate of course. However, the AZT logo was facing the wrong way so hopefully they can add another one. From there you continue westbound and get to enjoy the views to San Rafael and Meadow Valley with all their golden grass that hopefully will become green later this summer. Next POI would be Down Under Tank and like typical desert rats, we always admire a body of water for a moment or two before carrying on. There is a bit of a dam as you continue in the canyon.

I'm thinking we had a banana break around 11:30; there wasn't much shade but we did manage to find a nice tree to sit under before going into a drainage. We were happy to come upon Silver Tank Well but not before passing by a feeding trough house we checked out and a couple mining claim sticks. The Well has a faucet so I put my head under (Wendy taught me this) and my hat and my bandanna to enjoy the coolness of that water as it was starting to get warmer now. This is a neat little area and it is posted for no camping as part of the Cott Tank Exclosure. We would see standing water in areas but not to the level I've seen in other people's photos.

Around 12:30 we started seeing the red rock wall in the distance. It keeps your attention for awhile as you approach the wide drainage you walk across to get to the windmill and tanks and corral. We were disappointed to see not the cleanest tank but we filtered our water nonetheless. Next up would be our stop for lunch around Gate Spring; which interestingly enough is between two gates :lol: , but that didn't happen as there was no shade so we kept moving. We were lucky to find some nice shade in the canyon drainage around 1:30 for lunch. We were running low on motivation though as the temperature continued to get warmer.

As we were hiking the drainage we came upon this one area that was washed out so we backtracked a bit and into the drainage. We decided we would take a break again. I had hoped we could get to mile eleven but the heat really started to drag me down. Shawn said let's hike until 3:15 but I put in the option of 3 and that's when we pulled over. The scenery was pretty off and on though but it was difficult to enjoy when you're so hot. I kept looking at the few clouds out there and thinking of the Beatles song: "Come together, right now, over me!"

We found a nicer shaded area where we hung out for awhile but I was not cooling down and was still miserable so I decided we might as well keep hiking. During this time Shawn found us a flat place via the map for our nite's camp and it wasn't much further. It was indeed cooler to be hiking at this point than waiting it out. As it turns out he found the perfect spot in a large drainage under cottonwood trees.

I was able to change into my cover-up but it still took a good couple hours before I finally cooled down. Then we had a moonlight dinner, hung out for a bit and then crawled into our tents. I got to use my new REI Quarter-Dome, Ambika called it my Coop as it says so on the tent. Even in the tent it felt a little warm and took about an hour to cool down enough to get in the sleeping bag. But then my air mattress had a slow leak so I had to get up four times to blow enough air in it to keep me off the ground. Well at least I got to hear the birds and coyotes every time, ha!

Part 1 past Down Under Tank to Silver Tank area [ youtube video ]
Part 2 Silver Tank, Cotts Exclosure area to past Gate Spring [ youtube video ]
Part 3 from near lunch area to moonlit campsite and evening [ youtube video ]

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seemed to be quite a few belly flowers. Did see a patch of poppies and fairy duster. Ocotillos were blooming pretty good.

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looked pretty clean too considering there have been cattle around

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it's a cattle tank you pass by to the other side of the windmill on the trail. kind of yucky water but it's wet. Shawn's filter did a better job of getting rid of the slightly funky taste where my Sawyer did not.
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Jan 13 2018
m1ceyh1kes
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 Phoenix, Az
Canelo Hills West - AZT #3Tucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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Backpack16.20 Miles 1,550 AEG
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This one was not as challenging as Passage 2 until reaching mile 42.9 to mile 44. OMG! The trail disappears. Make sure you have your GPS ready to go. It’s the only reason I didn’t get completely turned around. Needs some trail marking love desperately!

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Nov 25 2017
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Canelo Hills West - AZT #3Tucson, AZ
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Backpack16.20 Miles 1,550 AEG
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Did this along with Passage 2 for a 3 day backpack. We came into Canelo Pass TH around 10 on Saturday and resupplied our water, then set out shortly after 11. We were glad to see that much of this passage is downhill, rather than the ups and downs of passage 2. Due to the downhills and the nature of this tread, there is a LOT of loose rock so we spent a lot of time looking at our feet. :o In places the mesquite scrub is crowding the trail, but not too bad. Route finding any where along any water drainage was tricky due to the high grass covering any cairns. Saturday night we camped in a nice stand of mesquite between Gate Springs and Gate tank. It was warmer than the night before so getting going in the morning was much easier! Sunday we spent a lot of time trying to find the trail along the creek bed. Since the trail crosses several times, each time we just wandered with the app in hand, trying to find where the trail came out. There are also 2 places where the bank is steep to get down from. 1 leads you to a hard-rock step, but we still thought it a tad tricky so backtracked a few yards and found another way down into the creek bottom. The other has a rock to step on, but we both still sat and slid down. Other than the creek bottoms / tall grass, route finding was easy. The last mile coming down to Harshaw TH had our full attention due to loose rock, but we finally made it to the vehicle at Harshaw around 11 on Sunday. My friend had not done this passage yet, so I took her pack and she slack-packed into Patagonia where I was waiting with her gear and a cup of coffee!
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No water at the tank. The surface water in the creek across from the tank was FULL of algae. NOBO along the creek bed there were pockets of water that were clearer and where we crossed the water was actually running slowly and much more clear.

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Water was also running from the tap at the dam. I got 2 liters in a min or less.

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Windmill was running and the stock tank was full and clear
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Nov 25 2017
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 Tucson, AZ
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Hiking16.20 Miles 1,550 AEG
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Did this along with Passage 2 for a 3 day backpack. We came into Canelo Pass TH around 10 on Saturday and resupplied our water, then set out shortly after 11. We were glad to see that much of this passage is downhill, rather than the PUDS of the day before. Loose rock, mesquite scrub, high grasses all made this a bit challenging. This night, we stopped between Gate Springs and Gate tank, putting our tents really close together because the area was not that large. It was warmer than the night before so getting going in the morning was much easier! Sunday we really needed the app at one spot in particular. Thank God for that app. The last mile coming down to Harshaw TH was lots of loose rock. Finished at Harshaw around 11 on Sunday and Sandy loaned me her umbrella to walk the 3 miles into Patagonia. She took my gear down to Patagonia for me. I walked with my buddies the cows for awhile. Then -- coffee!!!
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Oct 21 2017
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Another fun weekend at work on the AZT! The site was about 1.3 miles below the Harshaw TH just outside the cool little town of Patagonia. This project was part of the Arizona Trail Association's Trail Skills Institute training on trail design and re-routing. Our crew spent Saturday learning the fundamentals and flagging a small section for reroute. Sunday was spent doing the reroute itself. Friends were made. Laughs were had. A great way to experience the outdoors while gaining a whole new appreciation of the trails we love so well.
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Volunteer7.00 Miles 800 AEG
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The ATA's Trail Skills Institute is a way for volunteers to learn more about sustainable trail design and maintenance from some of the finest trail professionals in Arizona. There are 4 modules which cover basic trail maintenance, stone structures and trail layout and re-route design. The fall course on passage #3 met in the scenic Canelo Hills outside of the gateway community of Patagonia to learn how to layout new trail and use re-routes to fix serious trail issues. Eight participants joined Matt Roberts, Mark Loseth and Zach McDonald to work on a short reroute of the trail to bypass a steep descent and climb that were eroding into poor condition near the Harshaw Road trailhead. Participants learned how to plan for proper drainage using cross slope and grade changes as well as how to tie into and rehab existing trail to make the new route clear. The class began with a short lecture component, but most of the learning was done on the trail with tools in hand.

At the end of the day, a very short reroute bypassed an unnecessary descent and climb - improving the trail experience and making for a more sustainable route. Wins all the way around!
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May 31 2017
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Arizona Trail along Road at Patagonia, AZ 
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Hiking10.60 Miles 711 AEG
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It has been a week since I was hiking and I was getting the itch (No don't need to see a doctor, just need to get out and walk). Didn't want to travel far so I picked a trail in Patagonia that was just about 50 miles away. This is a portion of the Arizona Trail that follows along a road between trails. The OCD in me says this has to be done so I decided to do it so It wouldn't keep me up at night. I started really early in the morning, about 6:00 AM so I could be done by 10:00. This portion is 5 miles long making it a 10 mile round trip. The temperature by the time I finished was already at 86 degrees, getting a bit warm for me.

I decided to take Harshaw Creek instead of walking along Harshaw Road, the plan was great for about 1/3 mile then barbed wire fences and homes indicating private property. I decided to get back on the road and just follow it like the GPS indicated. Kind of uneventful hike all the way to the turn around point on Temporal Canyon Road near Fresno Spring (I hiked this last portion of the road late last year). The only excitement on this trip was being pulled over by the Sheriff for running what I believe is the only stop sign in Patagonia (the only stop sign on the road I was on). Ironically I have a picture I took while hiking through Patagonia and that stop sign is there plain as day, don't know what I was thinking. Anyway after doing the usual checks he let me off with a warning.

Last week I mentioned I finished up the Arizona Trail in both directions but there was this little stretch of road I never did. Well I can now sleep better knowing I finished up this portion of the Arizona Trail. Actually now that I think about it there was this one trail my GPS says I turned around about 100 yards too soon, leaving this little 100 yard section undone. Damn, this will bother me.
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