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Temporal Gulch Trail #595 - 8 members in 18 triplogs have rated this an average 3.9 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Jul 17 2020
Timknorr
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34 male
 Joined Jul 26 2012
 Tucson, AZ
Temporal Gulch Trail #595Tucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
Hiking avatar Jul 17 2020
Timknorr
Hiking10.00 Miles 2,369 AEG
Hiking10.00 Miles   5 Hrs   30 Mns   1.82 mph
2,369 ft AEG
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After seeing @Gummo 's photoset of his Temporal Gulch adventure I knew I had to check it out. I started at about 5:30am at Madera Canyon with the plan of going up the Old Baldy Trail to Josephine Saddle and then down the Temporal Gulch Trail for about 2 miles. About 20 minutes into the hike I heard the unmistakable call of the Elegant Trogon. About 10 minutes later I lucked out and the guy flew into view and perched on a dead stump about 50ft away. Just close enough to get a super pixilated iPhone pic for proof. I heard two more further up the trail, just before the landscape turns to pine forest, but they were further up the mountain side and hidden from view.

I hit my 5 mile mark just shy of 3 hours into my hike, right at the part where the trail winds around the south western slope of Josephine Peak. I wish I could have kept going, but I was due back in phoenix by 1:30pm. I turned around and headed back. Heard some thunder on the way back, but it looked like any rain would wait until the afternoon.
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Spring was full with a steady drip flowing into the tank.
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Jul 05 2020
desertadapted
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 Phoenix, AZ
Vault Mine - Josephine Saddle LoopTucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
Backpack avatar Jul 05 2020
desertadapted
Backpack23.00 Miles 7,600 AEG
Backpack23.00 Miles2 Days         
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Started at Madera Canyon TH. Intended to go up Vault Mine, but missed the right turn, hiked past the old mine and followed social trails up the ridge (passing an awesome campsite on the way). After losing the thread of the social trails and being obstinate, I bushwhacked up to the Agua Caliente trail and got to Josephine Saddle. From there, after a pit stop at Bellows Spring, it was up Wrightson (a lot of folks with positive energy!). There was rain on 7/2 and continued cloud cover so it was cooler than expected. After the summit trail, headed briefly down the Super Trail to connect with Gardner Canyon, which is well maintained. Continued the loop around Wrightson by connecting to the Arizona Trail. The fully maintained campsite was near Walker Basin but it was too early in the day to put in. So continued on the AZT to Temporal Gulch Trail. There were scattered pools throughout from last night's rain (and before -- some were pretty scummy). Temporal Gulch was likewise well maintained. Downside is that there were no maintained camp grounds before Josephine Saddle. After about 18-20 miles in, I found a ridge that had a decent camp. Startled some deer (all I wanted to do was hug them - is that so wrong?).

Next day was a quick trip past McBeth Spring (perfect water), and then back down Aqua Caliente and Vault Mine to see what I'd missed with the bushwhack. Vault Mine is steep! I didn't have a trash bag on the trip, but for anyone interested there is a fair bit of camping trash (old clothes, even) on Temporal Gulch within 1-1.5 miles of Josephine Saddle. Water: I carried all my needs from Bellows until McBeth. The back half of the day was hot with clouds burned off. While I could have hit some stagnant pools along the way, it was doable with what I'd brought. This is a gorgeous loop/figure 8. I look forward to my next Santa Rita trip! Mileage and AEG may be off by a bit because of bushwhack.

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Plenty of water from the pipe and in the spring. 7/3/2020.

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Plenty of cool, clear, tasty water in the spring, supplied by a light trickle. 7/3/2020.

dry Upper Walker Tank Dry Dry
Small basin of stagnant water above the dam. Not that desperate! 7/3/2020.
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Apr 04 2020
ShatteredArm
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 Phoenix, AZ
Santa Ritas mega loop, AZ 
Santa Ritas mega loop, AZ
 
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ShatteredArm
Run/Jog26.51 Miles 7,083 AEG
Run/Jog26.51 Miles   9 Hrs   7 Mns   2.92 mph
7,083 ft AEG      3 Mns Break
 
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A friend in Tuscon invited me out to do a big route in the Santa Ritas that involved three of the only trails in the Santa Ritas I haven't completed yet, so I couldn't say no. One of these, Four Springs Trail, was particularly high on my list.

We started up from Bog Springs (safely distanced, of course). Lots of hikers, even above Kent Springs where the trail is no longer "official". The trail is still in really good shape. The six miles or so to the top was a serious grind. Topped off our water with some nice cold snowmelt near Armour Spring (the spring itself was just a drip), and continued up the Crest.

Being at the high point felt good, something like 8 miles and 4,500 feet of climbing later...

Once on Super Trail, some actual consistent running was possible, and we made good time down to Walker Basin Trail via Gardner Canyon. GC was not in terrible shape, just a bit overgrown in places. Couple pieces of migrant garbage.

Along Walker Basin, we found a side drainage with good flow, so I decided to top off my water here, not knowing what the water situation in Temporal Gulch would be... There would be 2-3 other flowing creeks before we even got to TG trail...

Temporal Gulch actually had good water, and some nice pools that I really wanted to just stop and swim in, but there are some signs of cattle in the area. This was an unexpectedly pleasant part of the route, despite the climbing and the fact that I was already totally wrecked. Lots of shade and vegetation in there, and in the upper half, pine trees.

Once up above Josephine Canyon, the trail levels out. Stopped at McBeth Spring for one last fill. The rest of the day was unremarkable, although I never thought it was possible for me to go that slow down Old Baldy...

This was a great loop, but easily the most challenging route I've done in probably six months.

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Little pool with seepage under a rock. Good flow in the drainage to the east (but not much snow left).

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Some water in the box.

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No water in the spring box, but lots in the canyon next to it.

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Moderate flow coming out of the pipe.

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Creek is flowing.
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Jul 14 2019
ShatteredArm
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 Phoenix, AZ
Mount Hopkins LoopTucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
Run/Jog avatar Jul 14 2019
ShatteredArm
Run/Jog14.30 Miles 3,629 AEG
Run/Jog14.30 Miles   5 Hrs   30 Mns   2.60 mph
3,629 ft AEG
 
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After the remains of Mr. Smallwood from Ohio were found in the Santa Ritas, one of my Tucson friends hit me up for a chance to go check out the infamous ridge. I'm a fan of the Santa Ritas first of all, and have already explored two ways up Hopkins (the "main" route up from above Carrie Nation mine, and the old Jeep track from Josephine Canyon). Adding a third sounded fun.

A group of four of us started before 6:30am up Vault Mine trail, with a side excursion to the namesake mine. From the top of Vault Mine, we headed east towards Josephine Saddle, then took the social trail up to Mount Hopkins road. Power hiked the road up to the summit, enjoyed the view, and then headed the quarter mile or so back down to the ridge where the lost hiker's remains were found.

The ridge itself was very pleasant; in terms of vegetation, it was all quite friendly, and there weren't really any serious obstacles. One might be tempted to head down the gully, which is a mistake - stay on the ridge. About half way down, another ridge forks off to the right; this is the one you want. From here, there's actually trail the whole way down to Agua Caliente Saddle. As far as ridges are concerned, this one is actually pretty easy, but bring a topo map just in case.

Our group kind of splintered after this point; I headed over to Josephine Saddle by myself and went about a mile down Temporal trail, with a return via Super Trail. There's no shortage of options in the Madera Canyon area!
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Mar 19 2019
jajohnson11
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 Joined Feb 01 2013
 Tucson, AZ
Temporal Gulch Trail #595Tucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
Hiking avatar Mar 19 2019
jajohnson11
Hiking6.10 Miles 2,369 AEG
Hiking6.10 Miles
2,369 ft AEG
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To call this overgrown is the understatement of the year! Extreme overgrowth. Took this is an alternate on my 150 mile AZT section hike. It took a full day and a half to make 17 miles because of the overgrowth here and the massive snow on the north / east slopes coming off Baldy. Beautiful and well worth the effort. Just remember, it is overgrown!
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Sep 12 2015
chumley
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 Joined Sep 18 2002
 Tempe, AZ
Wrightson via Temporal to Walker Basin, AZ 
Wrightson via Temporal to Walker Basin, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Sep 12 2015
chumley
Hiking18.44 Miles 5,280 AEG
Hiking18.44 Miles   9 Hrs   31 Mns   2.57 mph
5,280 ft AEG   2 Hrs   20 Mns Break
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Great to meet some of the Tucson HAZ crew! And a fantastic hike too! Thanks for putting it together Belinda! :app:

Temporal Gulch was great ... a very nice and consistent ascent though slightly overgrown which required steady attention to the route, especially closer to the beginning.

The summit was nice as always, and it was a nice surprise to see rwstorm had made the hike to meet us!

The cloudy skies on the way down made some of the exposed areas much less warm than they might have been had it been sunny, which ended up making the weather on this day about as perfect as it could be.

Entertaining conversation and amusement followed us all day long. Thanks all! :lol:

For some reason my garage smells like something died. Not sure why. :o
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Clear water in the spring box

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Plenty of clear water in the spring box

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Beautiful crystal, clear, delicious water in the spring box

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A little flow at trail crossing with small pools

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Water flowing over the dam, but otherwise filled in above the dam. But stream flow was plentiful and pools in bedrock above the tank

dry Wrightson Spring Dry Dry
Just some surface moisture. No possibility of collecting it
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Sep 12 2015
joebartels
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 Joined Nov 20 1996
 Phoenix, AZ
Wrightson via Temporal to Walker Basin, AZ 
Wrightson via Temporal to Walker Basin, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Sep 12 2015
joebartels
Hiking17.35 Miles 5,060 AEG
Hiking17.35 Miles   9 Hrs   34 Mns   2.43 mph
5,060 ft AEG   2 Hrs   25 Mns Break14 LBS Pack
 
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Our first obstacle was getting around a half decomposed cow on FR72 that would make a skunk blush. Most of the stank washed off the trucks passing through a few running ravines. Just enough lingered at the trailhead to get us hungry for the trail.

We lost the trail a few times in the lower creek shared segment of #595. Nothing of concern, follow the creek when in doubt. The upper part is nice. Friendly brush is nearby most of the way. Weather was nice throughout the day. From Josephine Saddle to the summit we had a steady flow of company on trail.

My favorite part of the hike was from Baldy Saddle heading down Gardner Canyon #143. Views, perfectly scattered pines and clouds cranked out a nice symphony.

Walker Basin Trail #136 was the get us back leg. Two sacred pools above the dam were neat. FR72 to complete the loop.

A pleasure to hike with this fine group. Mike was a little shy but opened up after five seconds. Met Bill Bens out playing in his backyard! Randy hit the big peak in the sky again and joined us for lunch too.

carried 4 qts, consumed 2.8
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Autumn Foliage Observation None
None really. A little precursor to Autumn near McBeth. Large swaths of ferns all browned up now. The ravine is a tucked in pocket.
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Several large blankets of yellow covering slopes. A few nice individual varieties.
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Sep 12 2015
Pivo
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 Tucson, AZ
Wrightson via Temporal to Walker Basin, AZ 
Wrightson via Temporal to Walker Basin, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Sep 12 2015
Pivo
Hiking17.45 Miles 5,060 AEG
Hiking17.45 Miles   9 Hrs   27 Mns   2.48 mph
5,060 ft AEG   2 Hrs   24 Mns Break25 LBS Pack
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This is now my favorite route up Old Baldy. The drive in from Patagonia is beautiful, I will definitely be returning after spotting some great campsites to spend a weekend.
Plenty of water along the trails, lush green slopes and canyons after a generous monsoon in the range. Nice wildflower displays, and great company. Good to meet the folks from the Phoenix area too.

Dinner was at Patagonia's Velvet Elvis.
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RedwallNHops
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 Joined Dec 22 2003
 Tucson, AZ
Wrightson via Temporal Gulch, AZ 
Wrightson via Temporal Gulch, AZ
 
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RedwallNHops
Hiking17.45 Miles 5,060 AEG
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What an awesome way to do Wrightson. Great to hike with the Phoenix guys as well!
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 Tucson, AZ
Wrightson via Temporal to Walker Basin, AZ 
Wrightson via Temporal to Walker Basin, AZ
 
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GrottoGirl
Hiking17.45 Miles 5,060 AEG
Hiking17.45 Miles   9 Hrs   30 Mns   1.84 mph
5,060 ft AEG
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I wanted to do a long day hike that I hadn't done before, so I got out my maps and books and finally settled on checking out the Santa Rita's from the backside. I decided to post an event on HAZ since I don't do that too often. And I'm glad I did as we got to meet three of our 'friends' we've seen lurking on HAZ!

The day started out pretty benign. We met up flawlessly and caravanned down to Patagonia. That's when things got interesting on the way to the trailhead we saw Chumley pause for a minute before driving over a 'log'. Soon we saw that it wasn't a log. He proceeded to drive around as much of a dead cow as he could. Then we had to follow. Ugh! Even after all the creek crossings there was still some smell left behind.

The beginning of the trail was more of a suggestion then a trail. With all the greenery we managed to keep losing it. Clues like backpacks and jackets left behind helped us navigate and sometimes helped us get off trail. However, it wasn't a problem as 5 of the 7 had either Route Scout or Garmins; not that they were needed since the trail followed Temporal Gulch.

The flowing Temporal Gulch was a beautiful site. I didn't take pictures as the patchy shade wouldn't have done it justice. As we rose in elevation we got views of our objective, Mt Wrightson, as it majestically towered above us. I enjoyed seeing it from a new direction!

We found that McBeth's spring was flowing. Everyone had a good laugh contemplating the name of the spring. Maybe there had been a scholarly miner who loved to read?

At Josephine's saddle we joined the steady flow of hikers to the top. We all went at our own pace for this section of the trail. When I got to Baldy saddle I was greeted by the awesome patches of showy golden eyes. Not the best flower display in the range (Armour Spring to Pine Saddle gets that title, in my opinion) but very nice.

At the top we found Randy. I hadn't seen him in years and it was nice to say hi.

On the way down, we topped up water at Baldy Spring. I was pleased to see the ponderosa pines on the Gardner Canyon trail were almost all taller than me! Soon this will be a nice shady trek. I was excited to get to the junction that leads to Walker Basin. New trail again! The first part was still a burn area however we did get to some areas of nice trees. The drainages were flowing with water from the monsoons.

We found Walker Tank ( a silted in dam), however, above it we located some pool, definitely worth the diversion!

The hardest part of the day was walking the road. Luckily, the views of the Patagonia mountains and all around were awesome.

On the way out, Mark decided to test out his 4x4 capabilities. The smell was HORRID! That will be something we talk about for a long time...

Pizza and drinks at the Velvet Elvis was wonderful!

It was awesome hiking with the PHX HAZ crew! We will have to do it again someday.
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Sep 12 2015
The_Eagle
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 Far NE Phoenix,
Wrightson via Temporal to Walker Basin, AZ 
Wrightson via Temporal to Walker Basin, AZ
 
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The_Eagle
Hiking17.70 Miles 5,227 AEG
Hiking17.70 Miles   9 Hrs   30 Mns   2.33 mph
5,227 ft AEG   1 Hour   54 Mns Break15 LBS Pack
 
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Prison Stories, Goat Stories, Dead Cows, Poop, Wild Flowers, Surprise Guests, White Men in White Face.... this hike had it all.

Belinda posted a Wrightson loop, climbing from the east. I'd never done it from the east. Chums and
Joe Joe were a go, so we met up with the Chummobile at 4am for the drive to meet up w/ the Tucson crew at 6am.

Into Patagonia and then the drive on AZT #4 to our TH. Other than the stinky dead cow we had to drive OVER, the drive was uneventful.

Temporal Gulch Trail #595 Was a bit thin in spots and is a steady climb to Josephine Saddle. The views just kept getting better. We made a stop at McBeth Spring to sample the agua.

At the Old Baldy Trail #372 we saw the first of the masses coming up and down from the Summit. Ran into and SkyIslandHiker on his way down from his 300th? summit.

We enjoyed a break and lunch at the top with our surprise guest Randy. The first time I did Wrightson, it was in a group w/ Randy the speed demon. Great seeing him again.

It's all downhill from here Gardner Canyon #143, to Walker Basin #136. The views are easier to enjoy going downhill not staring at you feet. We all took an extended break while Joel read the newspaper.

The hill dropping into Upper Walker Tank was brutally rocky/steep.. we should have taken the AZT reroute instead of "The Road"

Thanks for settin' this one up Belinda! Good to finally meet you, Joel, Mark and Mike...

Hard to believe that the Cow smelled worse on the way out.. :o
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Plenty of of clear cool water in the concrete catchment, north from the large visable container

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Plenty of of clear cool water in the concrete catchment

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Plenty of of clear cool water in the concrete catchment

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Plenty of filterable water. Nice pools upstream.
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Jul 25 2015
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 Whetstone, Arizo
Temporal Gulch Trail #595Tucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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Hiking10.25 Miles 2,369 AEG
Hiking10.25 Miles   7 Hrs      1.86 mph
2,369 ft AEG   1 Hour   30 Mns Break34 LBS Pack
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Our hike began at the trail-head for Temporal Gulch #595 in Patagonia's gorgeous Santa Rita Mountains to Josephine Saddle where we picked up the 2.2 mile Old Baldy Trail #372. Ending at the parking lot in Madera, we caught a ride to the incredibly awesome Kent Springs Cabin. (Highly recommend a visit to this beautiful cabin) where we stayed overnight and drove home 24 hours later.
We began our hike at 11:00 am with four adults, one teen and two dogs. The trail path was clear and appeared well traveled. Sadly there was quite a bit of garbage at the beginning, lessening the further along the trail were; clothing, backpacks, food wrappers, water bottles etc. The warnings about the illegal traffic in the area are true. Regardless, the area was gorgeous! The stream bed was running and the waterfalls were flowing as well. there were several deep pools along the route. Deep enough for the dogs to swim! The path was clear and easy to follow for the first 2 miles then we had to start relying on our compasses and rock markers pyramided at corners and bends in the trail. Once you found the markers, the trail was easy enough to pick back up again. The sights and smells were amazing, the pines, the incredible oaks and all the other trees made such a wonderful shaded, cool canopy during the hike. We do believe we were sharing the path with a brown bear or two, we came across countless large piles of fresh bear scat and we even had the pleasure of finding freshly marked trees! It was truly exciting! Along with dozens of different wildflowers the trail was lined with many different types of mushrooms! Dozens to be exact; gold, white, copper red, speckled... They were plentiful and a joy to find! This trail has so much to offer! ** I really recommend head nets the gnats were terrible this time of year. There was no amount of bug spray that would keep them at bay they just attacked your face and eyes. (This was only uncomfortable encounter during the entire trip) The stream bed began to get scarce at about 4.5 to 5 miles into the hike, so if you have pets you may want to bring them an extra bottle of water or two. We hiked during the rainy season and the stream bed was still dry in places along the trail so just take precautionary measures and pack in a bit more water. My daughter and I hiked in with in 2, 50 liter water bottles and it lasted us the duration of the hike. The trail was really overgrown and appeared far less traveled about the 6 to 6.5 mile. The machete was extremely useful to have to cut away the brush, clearing the path. We had been warned about the chiggers being active this time year fortunately, we had no issues them at all. A few of our group did get a tick. But only 2. One at the start of the trail and the other wasn't discovered until we made it to the cabin. Not bad at all! I recommend that everyone do this hike! When you make it out of the tree lines you have the opportunity to see Whipple Observatory across the valley and the mountainous terrain is truly breathtaking! The trail was defined at this point but in several places it was beginning to wash away. It needs some maintenance, or just more hikers :) But it is all passable. It was a refreshing moment coming to the McBeth Spring, the ferns carpeted the mountainside and the massive pines surrounding the spring were breathtaking. The rock basin at the spring was crystal clear and full, the fill pipe was flowing nicely. Three people, including myself drank directly from the spring. The dogs drank too... (no issues at all later) :) The excitement of reaching Josephine Saddle was awesome! We viewed sights we had only seen online to include the Boy Scout memorial. The trail heads at this point are clearly marked. The hike down Old Baldy Trail was a bit rocky but it was nice and wide and more maintained it wasn't until this point during the hike that we came across other hikers on the path. This trail definitely has a lot of hiking traffic. All in all the hike from Patagonia to Madera was absolutely awesome following the routes we had taken all totaling a little over 11 miles. I highly recommend it to everyone! We will be doing this hike again this year. I'd love to see it in the cooler months. I will be bringing high visible markers so I can do my part to help clearly mark the trail as it is unknown if the rock markers will continue to be standing. Our group also mentioned the possibility of a trail clean up mission in the future. The road getting into Temporal Canyon is a bit rough, I would recommend a 4X4 high clearance vehicle or side by side. However, I truly believe a stock Jeep would make it without a problem. We were dropped off at the trail-head which is how I would suggest everyone take this trek. I wouldn't recommend leaving your vehicle here overnight.
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There were dozens of different wildflowers along the entire route.

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The spring was full and flowing steady.
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Dec 05 2014
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Temporal Loop, AZ 
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wha
Backpack29.00 Miles 5,500 AEG
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A loop backpack in the Santa Rita mountains.

Day 1 - Yesterday the weather report said 20% chance of rain over the next few days. This morning it said 80%. I need more experience in the rain so I didn't cancel my plans.

Started late at the Gardner Canyon trailhead of Temporal Gulch AZT4 and headed south. After a couple miles had lunch and then continued on to Walker Basin where I camped for the night. Lots of litter and TP. A small pool at the base of the dam seemed stagnant, but a short distance up the drainage there was a clear flowing pool. Saw 3 deer, no people today.

Day 2 - Woke to rain at 3am. It went from rain to drizzle and back for the next 12 hours. The first hour or so down the road was fine. Then I started up Temporal Gulch #595. What a miserable several hours. The trail in this section crosses the creek again and again and is hard to follow at times. Some spots are badly eroded, and much of it is overgrown. Most of the time was just a drizzle, but every time I had to push through trees, grass and brush I'd get drenched with a cold bucket of water. Finally I wised up and would whack them with my hiking poles and knock off the worst of it. In nice weather this part would be really interesting along the creek, with many pools and little waterfalls.

Topo maps show a tunnel at Wildcat mine. I thought I'd duck in to get out of the rain for a bit, but I couldn't find anything. Just a large tailing pile, and maybe a buried tunnel above it. After Wildcat the trail was in much better shape. Lots of bear scat though. And I mean lots.

It was only midafternoon but I decided to stop at Josephine saddle and camp. I was rather chilled after being soaking wet for so long. Time to dry off and warm up. Saw no people today.

Day 3 - Backtracked to McBeth Spring for water, then started up the Super Trail around the south side of Wrightson. I kept hearing voices and finally stopped and listened for a while. It was so still and quiet I was hearing workers over on Hopkins.

My original plan was to camp near Baldy Saddle and then hike to the top in the morning. But the short slow day yesterday messed that up. At Gardner Canyon Trail I headed down. The sun finally burned through the overcast and I stopped for lunch on a flat area with a great view to the south and enjoyed the warmth.

At the TH I took the link trail over to the Cave Creek road and followed that back to my car. Finally saw a few people camping in the last couple miles.
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Aug 22 2014
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This is a round trip hike to finish up the Eastern portion of Temporal Gulch Trail that I wasn't able to finish on a prior hike. The hike started along the Temporal Gulch road out of Patagonia near the Little Joker mine (about a mile from the Temporal Gulch Trail Head). I am always amazed at how green things get after the monsoons, even though I see it every year. Real nice half day hike especially toward the end of monsoons. The drive from Tucson to the trail head probably takes as long as the hike but it is a scenic drive. There is a nice little water fall (cascade) toward the beginning of the trail and the abandon Wildcat mine toward the end (middle of the Temporal Gulch Trail).
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This was a round trip hike starting at Madera Canyon Old Baldy Trail Head. The route is Old baldy Trail (#372) to Josephine Canyon, Temporal Gulch Trail (#595) to Wild Cat Mine (about 3 miles in) and then return to Josephine saddle and back to start point along the Super Trail (134).

Nice hike for September, Get out of the lower desert heat and there was still water available from summer monsoons. I had never been on the Temporal Gulch Trail so most of the Photos were taken along this trail. I will have to finish up this trail from the other end in lower Temporal Gulch. There are nice views to the South and great close up views of Mount Wrightson from the South. Trail does not seem to used be too much.
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Up Old Baldy then out Temporal Gulch to check on McBeth Springs. Still flowing, maybe a pint per minute. Returned via Super Trail.

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Overnight trip to Jack Mountain in the Santa Ritas. Hiked up the Super Trail to Josephine Saddle, then out Temporal Gulch to McBeth Spring to grab some water. Back to the saddle then took Agua Caliente trail to a campsite on Jack Mountain. Spent the afternoon relaxing, reading a book, watching some Robins. In the morning went back down Super Trail.

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It was my hope from the very beginning that I’d be able to share a bit of the glory and adventure of Sirena’s through hike on the AZT. The fact that I am insanely envious barely plays into it at all (wink). So, when my schedule shifted about a bit and opened up an opportunity for me to not only join her for Passage 4 but to take her family camping afterwards in my travel trailer, King Gilbert, I was ecstatic! An overnight on the AZT…with my celebrity friend…just the two of us and the foothills of the Santa Rita mountains on one of the most beautiful weekends of the year? Oh yeah. I’m in!

Passage 4 of the AZT follows the Temporal Canyon Road in Patagonia for the first 13 miles. For most through-hikers, road walks are similar to unwanted chores: often necessary, rarely enjoyed. Sirena had taken care of the first 7 miles of the road walk the day before to speed things up, so we had only about 6 miles to go before we truly got off into the wilds. Luckily, even road walking in this area can be scenic and rewarding. Winding through the oak forests and over the pools of Temporal Gulch wasn’t such a horrible chore at all – and the terrain offered enough distraction to keep us contented as we hoofed along.

Throughout our walk on the road, we were amazed at the amount of water that we were finding. The spring boxes were full, and there was often a slow trickle in the bottom of the canyon. Although it has been an unusually dry (and warm) winter and early spring in southern Arizona, it seems that a few well-timed storms have really helped out these riparian areas. It’s unlikely that the pools will remain long without more moisture coming from the sky and soon – but it was a real treat to know that we would not have to worry about running dry on this particular piece of trail.

Once we turned off onto the Walker Basin trail and got back to our preferred single-track hiking, the mountains rewarded us with even better vistas and diversity. Mt. Wrightson, the highest mountain in the Santa Rita range, is topped by Baldy Peak at 9,453 ft. This barren, granite summit presides over the entire range like a patriarch, and it’s steep wooded flanks have always called to those seeking solitude and adventure. Both Sirena and I have visited the summit on multiple occasions – but somehow it’s even more impressive to see the mountain this way – wandering about at it’s base staring up. Although the Arizona Trail does not climb to the top of this range as it does with the Rincons and the Santa Ritas further north, it does provide hikers with an intimate experience with Wrightson just the same.

16 miles into Passage 4 (9 for us today), we arrived at Bear Spring. Our initial plans were to camp near the spring, as Sirena had often wanted to but schedule often didn’t permit. The spring is a beautiful spot – cold, clear water from the tank and a sycamore-studded stream babbling just down the hill in Big Casa Blanca Canyon. There were some ideal tent sites near the creek, and plenty of trees for my hammock. We took our hiking shoes off and dunked our feet in the icy creek, filtered and drank our fill of the delicious water and considered our options. It was still early in the day, with hours until sunset, and our feet now felt refreshed and ready to go again. We decided that while the spring was an ideal spot, we’d take our chances on the trail ahead and keep moving just a little while longer. Besides - we knew there was a group of high-school students hiking the opposite direction who were supposed to be staying at Bear Spring as well that night, and we really didn't want to be all settled in when they crashed (if they were coming).

Luckily, we found them just a few hundred yards down the trail, camped in a large spot beside the creek. Now we knew where they were, we could camp in confidence that we'd not be disturbed by "eager young minds" that night.

Beginning at Bear Spring, the trail follows a historic drainage feature called a “flume”. This ditch was dug into the mountainside in the early 1900′s as a part of an effort to provide water to a gold mining operation in nearby Kentucky Gulch. Water from Bear Spring was diverted into the flume and ran in the ditch for 2 1/2 nearly level miles to the next improvement at Tunnel Spring. Because of this historic engineering effort, the trail feels almost dead-flat, and contours high above the steep floor of Big Casa Blanca canyon. At one point, Sirena began telling me, it’s supposed to duck through a hole in the rock – but she missed the spot back in 2008 by accidentally taking the bypass built for equestrian use. She was just finishing the story when we came around a corner and found the “hole-in-the-wall” – a small tunnel through the conglomerate rock that makes up the canyon walls. Her excitement made passing up the Bear Spring camp 100% worthwhile!

As the sun got lower in the sky, we began to look for a spot to camp. Since the trail is carved into the mountainside, we started to scan the ridges and slopes that ran perpendicular to the trail for a spot. I spotted a faint foot-path heading off onto one such ridge, and we followed it out to one of the finest campsites we could have hoped for. A small fire ring, cleared spots for ground sleepers, trees for hammocks and drop-dead amazing views to the south, west and east. We arrived just in time to settle in before the evening light show started, then made ourselves a modest fire and ate Thai green curry chicken and rice by its glow. For girls like Sirena and I, it simply does not get any better.

The next morning we didn’t get an early start (which is SO typical of us!), but we were on the trail in plenty of time to cover the 10 miles remaining to our base at Kentucky Camp. We had more historic flume hiking ahead, followed by a series of small ups and downs along the historic water system, and ending with a short but wearing road walk from Kentucky Camp to my trailer just down the road. We were low on food (Sirena’s finally got a through hiker’s appetite), and eager to get back before her family arrived at camp. Never the less, we hardly hurried. The trail is just too much fun to rush!

By the time we caught sight of Kentucky Camp, we were hungry and a little tired in the feet - ready to kick back and relax. It was good that from the same ridge where we first spotted the buildings, we could also see King Gilbert - full of food and promising sandals and chairs. We were on a mission!

Seeing her family's reaction to my choice of campsite was hilarious. It was a busy weekend in the grasslands, and the larger, more established sites had already been taken when I arrived Thursday night. However, I picked out a spot on a ridge with 365degree views - but no existing fire ring or bare dirt. Where do we camp? Where do we make a fire? I lead them through the steps of building the fire ring and that process stamped down the tallest grasses immediately around the trailer. By sunset, they were as in love with the spot as Sirena and I had been. Just took a little "getting used to" the Arizona way of things ;)

I took my hammock down the hill to the nearest copse of trees for my hang that night and slept with a contented smile. What a great weekend on the Arizona Trail!
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Wildflowers Observation Isolated
One spot of poppies, blue dicks scattered, cacti looking like they're starting to bud out.

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Pool full and clear with a little alge

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Beautiful water!

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Tank full of clear water

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