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May 17 2019
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Fraser - Randolph LoopGlobe, AZ
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Hiking11.45 Miles 1,265 AEG
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Since temps were expected to be very comfortable last Friday, I decided to stay in the Valley. (More or less.)

The furthest I had ever been up rocky, bumpy, FR 172 was Pam's New Year climb up Roblas Butte back in 2016: [ photoset ]

I took my time driving up FR 172, enjoying the views, and taking care in what to me were trickier sections. The last thing I wanted was a flat, or to puncture the oil pan, as FR 172 has no cell reception at all. It took me 1h 15m. I started hiking at 8:30 a.m.

The turn off for Coffee Flat Trail #108, down Fraser Canyon, is just before Woodbury Well, and is marked by a cairn. But first I explored the well. It has a windmill, but it no longer operates the pump, which is now solar-powered. At the base of the windmill was an elevated rubber pipe end, which was giving a steady flow of clear water. Two adjacent large plastic tanks sound like they were both full. (I knocked.) A spring box was dry, but a cattle tank was close to full. There were a number of well-licked salt blocks laying about. 🐄

Coffee Flat Trail #108 would have been a great hike had it not been for the INSANE amount of foxtail on it, particularly below JF Ranch. I'm not joking when I say sometimes the trail disappeared in the foxtail. I suppose I should have followed recommendations and hiked the canyon bottom, but I wanted to lay down an accurate track. 🙄

Fraser Canyon gets pretty tight for the next two miles, past Whetrock Canyon and Musk Hog Canyon, to Dripping Spring. There’s a decent amount of shade, and lots saguaro on the canyon slopes. Near Whetstone Spring, I found an mine adit that went in less than 50 ft.

I took a break at Dripping Spring, contemplating my foxtail riddled shoes & socks. I decided it would take too long to de-foxtail them, and that the existing infestation might somewhat innoculate me against further foxtails I might accumulate in Randolph Canyon. 🤔

After my break, I started up Red Tanks Trail #107, which passed by some pools and pretty purple boulders & slick rock. Along the way, I encountered a gila monster — the first one I’ve seen in the wild since I hiked from the Bronco Trailhead to Cave Creek in 2016.

After a ½ mile, Red Tanks Trail #107 heads north while Randolph Canyon continues northeast. I thought at first I might have found a use trail, but it quickly disappeared. I really did not want to fight catclaw for four miles, so I stuck to the rocky canyon bottom. That got old quick.

Though Randolph Canyon only climbs 500 ft. in the 3.5 miles to JF Trail #106, it felt like I was climbing stairs the whole way. My leg muscles got so tired, I briefly considered turning back, and even had non-sensical thoughts like “drop pack” and “cross country would be easier”. Both would have been bad news. I had to gut it out.

A few minutes before I reached Randolph Spring, I came within 5 ft. of a wetern diamondback sunning itself on a pink boulder. Naturally, I jumped back, but he never did rattle me, or even coil. 😅

Despite mostly staying in the rocky bottom of Randolph Canyon, I still accumulated scads more foxtail, as I occasionally had to work my way around an obstacle, trying to keep my stabby feet dry. (I eventually gave up staying dry.)

Two and a ½ miles up Randolph Canyon, I was dead tired. Naturally, that is when I encountered a 2-3 ft. high fence, across the wash. I’ve seen read that there is a gate in the brush on the side of the wash. Not knowing it at the time, I wondered how I could lift my weary legs over the fence, as there was no room to low crawl it. Even if there was, I did not have the energy to get back to my feet. After contemplating my options for a few minutes, I settled for stepping on the fence, depressing it enough that I was (barely) able to lift my other leg over it.

Finally, after nearly seven hours, I came to JF Trail #106. Though there is a cairn, the trail is faint. If you miss it, and really enjoy rock hopping, JF Trail #106 crosses Randolph Canyon a second time, in another half mile. I opted to climb the 150 ft. out of the canyon, stopping several times along the way for 10 seconds here and 15 seconds there. I was spent. 🚑

About halfway between the Woodbury Well and the trailhead, I got rattled by a second western diamondback*, on the left side of the jeep trail. Surprised, I did the hokey pokey back step. After gathering my senses, I walked around him.
* I almost ran over two more western diamondbacks on my drive back down FR 172! 🐍
I returned to the Woodbury Trailhead at 4:10 p.m., after nearly eight hours of hiking. (I might have taken even more time, if I was not concerned about getting back to pavement before dark.) Cold beer never tasted so good!

In summary, I liked Fraser Canyon, but downgraded it a star due to all the foxtail. Randolph Canyon blew chunks.

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Hike Video: [ youtube video ]
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Desert Marigold, Ocotillo, Cholla, Flat Top Buckwheat, Desert Lavender, Sacred Datura, Prickly Pear Cactus, New Mexico Thistle, Saguaro, Salt Cedar and -- of course -- Brittlebush.

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Some water here & there, but not comparable to Randolph Canyon.

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Pools, and flow from trickle to audible pour, both above & below Randolph Spring. Some of the pools decent size. Some with algae, some crystal clear.
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joebartels
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JF Trail to Tortilla PassPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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Hiking18.95 Miles 3,115 AEG
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Bruce suggested JF as an out-n-back for years. Only familiar with the NW and SE ends I quickly changed the conversation.

2017
2017 wrote:Bruce suggested JefF out-n-back. Meh... do I know you? He came back with this loop...
A hardy loop I, I... I enjoyed. Unexpectedly found out views along the 2 miles NW of Tortilla Pass were as good as my favorites.

2019
Apprehensively suggested this 19 mi out-n-back that includes 3.1 mi along FR213. Expected the verbal whip. Nice guy responded okay let's do it.

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The road walk is what is. Senic, still a road. Kudos to thurman for hitting it twice in 7 days, my inspiration for a revisit.

A quarter mile or more of JF #106 is ankle buster rocks. They don't phase me, just a heads up for Y-Bar haters. After bonkers abundant Scorpionweed around the Valley it was a pleasant surprise to see abundant Wild Heliotrope. Which is blue, lacks scorpion curl and rancid drift.

We took a stab at the 0.2 mi offtrail adventure to Clover Spring. Seriously, who doesn't love a good spring hunt. Beats the hell out of hunting down geotrash. Threw in the towel after two yards nagged by catclaw. Further reading at home... Out of 7 reports, maybe 1 made the journey to check it. Catclaw was not horrible, just a great excuse to move on.

A mile or two of trail with painful looking vegetation on both sides keeps the mini prayers rolling. From the eagle's nest on is 2.3 sweet scenic miles. Also the middle of nowhere so there is minor near and dear vegetation dodging. Not a deterrent in my opinion. Love the nearby and distant mountains, this is Arizona!

Small pools near the origin of Tortilla Creek. Lunched at Tortilla Saddle. Nice views.

Nothing overly exciting on the return. I need to bust out bigger hikes. This easy out-n-back was stinging more than it should midway back.

A rattlesnake outta nowhere on trail-left took a strike and missed me. Jumping back to the right Bruce screamed. Scared me good. First I've jumped mid jump. No photo, no proof... I know the rules. Figured it was best to not press my luck. Forever etched in my mind in slow motion like a scene from the matrix. Rattle, calm jump, figure eight twisting pretzel mid air, scream from behind, mid air compounded fear jump, thoat of beast, world's largest snake hovering back, beast landed, slithered into brush. Got lucky.

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1st hike in about six months carrying a camelbak again. Consumed 3.3 quarts. Love the fanny pack but need more water as it warms up. 614 miles on Salomon Yellow Wings Flyte 2 - 2018, thinking 700 easy. Sure I just jinxed it.
Bruce keeps asking for the term for an arch entrance to a ranch. Looked. I'm going with Ranch Entrance. A guy in a forum suggest Ranch Head Gate. Never heard that nor 1 matching google image. Related but a "headgate" is a framework designed to hold still the heads of cattle for various procedures.
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Lots of Wild Heliotrope and small daisy types. Fair variety of others.

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The_Eagle
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JF Trail to Tortilla PassPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking18.95 Miles 3,115 AEG
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We just had to hit up the Superstitions before the Orb made things to warm for the rest of the season.

Driving in, just past Canyon lake, two tricked out BMW's passed me like I was standing still. I kept up with them for almost 4 feet. This is the second time this has happened to me on this road. Knowing they'd be turning around at the dirt, I carefully approached the sharp corners. The lead car got a bit sideways coming around a corner when he saw me on the return.

The road walk in does afford some good views and is a great, OK, good, warm up for a hike.

After last weeks warm temps and high winds, I expected things to be dried out. Not the case. The grasses are still green and Tortilla Creek was still flowing. I did not expect many flowers at all, but they were abundant.

JF is a bit overgrown but easily navigated. Give it a few more weeks and the Foxtail will be murderous.

At one point, about half way up, Joe remembered he brought Trimmers and made the trail at least 60% better while we hiked up.

The exciting nerve racking part of the hike, was on the return, about a half mile before hitting the wilderness boundary.

We were chattin' away, on a halfway decent section trail, maybe calve deep grass. From the left side of the trail, outta nowhere, a rather large DBack lunged at Joe. It probably struck out about 18"-24". Joe reacted by jumping and twisting to the right, landing luckily between two patches of Prickly Pear. It missed him by 12". This snake never rattled until it hit the ground after the strike at Joe.

20 minutes later, we encountered a large Kingsnake stretched across the road. This boy would not move. We snuck around him and had an uneventful remainder of the hike.

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We headed out on Friday afternoon for two nights in the Supes. The plan was to loop from Tortilla Pass trailhead through Woodbury, and then back up Red Tanks/Hoolie Bacon. We parked at the road since we only brought the Suby. Next time we're bringing the Jeep and saving 6 miles. We can pack more booze that way. We were not sure of the water situation in the high country so we packed in extra. We hit first water at Clover Spring, pools in the drainage, but did not go to the actual spring. We camped up high for the night, right before you drop down to the Rogers Trough intersection. This section of the trail is mostly overgrown and full of ankle cactus. You can say that for pretty much the entire loop. Lots of loose rock to make it interesting.

The next morning we made our way down the JF to Randolph Canyon and it was flowing strong. It looked too inviting so we decided to take the canyon route instead of the Woodbury/Coffee Flat cow pattie. Typical canyon/water hike, loose rock, deep sand, wet feet and thorns. But it was beautiful and a highlight of the trip. My back and knees disagree though. We hit Red Tanks and started the slog up the hill. Red Tanks is beautiful but its always a test. We made it up, over, and down into the Labarge basin. The water was flowing nicely on the way down, but dried up to just random pools by the time we got to the camp spots. I recommend topping off earlier. We filled up and headed up Hoolie Bacon for about a mile to the summit before Horse Camp Basin and camped there for the night.

Up early the next morning and headed into Horse Camp Basin. Pools at many of the creek crossings there. Lots of camp sites as well. We headed the rest of the way out, up and down for a bit and then through the Tortilla Creek valley; a thankful rest on our knees and back. Plenty of water flow as well. We finished the road hike out and headed for some breakfast.

We'll try and add the pics later. Get out while the water is good.
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Desert Mariposa Lily, Poppies, Desert Chircory, Hedgehog Cactus, Blackfoot Daisy, Spreading Fleabane, Brittle Bush, and a few Evening Primrose.
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Hiking16.55 Miles 2,908 AEG
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I decided to Finish up the trails from the Tortilla Trail Head this Week. Took the JF Trail 5.1 miles in to the high point on the trail. Will have to finish up the south portion of this trail at another date from the other side of the Superstitions. Took me four trips down SVR 213 to finish up the Trifecta of trails from the Tortilla trail head (Peters trail, Hoolie Bacon Trail and JF Trail). I am really tired of SVR 213, I could walk it in my sleep. Anymore hiking at this trail head I will drive SVR 213.

Will skip right to the JF Trail. Of the three trails this one is in the worst condition, maybe I should say the least best condition because it really isn't in that bad a shape. A really rocky trail so a little more caution is needed and on this trip it was a little overgrown with grass making it harder to spot in places. Unlike the other two trails of the trifecta this one doesn't follow a creek so it has the potential of being the driest. On this trip the two small side canyons that you do cross still had a trickle of water in them. I would bet in a week or two these creeks will be dry without more rain/snow. Really green in places and would almost say it was Arizona's version of Ireland. Amazingly free of catclaw which surprised me (there were a few but didn't find them an issue). This trail is a gradual uphill all the way with a few exceptions were it drops into a side canyon or levels off on a ridge. Being it is a gradual uphill there were very few places where the 2 to 2.5 MPH pace was hindered.

This half of the JF Trail is what I consider a ridge trail so as a result the views to the North, East and West are excellent. Fish Creek to the east, Tortilla Well, Fish Creek Mesa and Four Peaks to the north and Tortilla Peak, Music Mountain and Picacho Butte to the west. Once on the ridge at the high point There are views to the south and east deeper into the upper Superstition Wilderness.

I took my first break on a saddle after returning from the summit of the trail. I was eating eating lunch sitting against a rock just to the right of the trail and a coyote came strolling up the trail unaware that I was there. It was about 10 feet from where I was sitting when I told him the roadrunner went that way. If a dog could jump out of its fur it would look a lot like this one did. Totally surprised by me being there it took off the way it came. About every 30 yards it would stop and look back and I'd wave and say, I'm still here. Did this a couple times before it disappeared in the trees. The coyote was actually a pretty good looking dog not as mangy as a lot of them look.

This might be the last trip to the western Superstitions this year because it was getting a little warm, 86 degrees. The morning at sunrise was perfect and there was a breeze most of the day that made the higher temps very tolerable. Only ran into one other lone hiker who was out backpacking the supes for a couple of days. Always nice to run into another person while hiking especially in the more remote areas. Great hike overall. Of the three trails in this area I am really torn between which one is the best. Each one has its own uniqueness, Peters for the Two Creeks it follows, Hoolie Bacon for the views of the western Superstitions and Trap Canyon and the JF for its views in all directions. I think Peters is the toughest because of the steep climb out of Tortilla Canyon, Then Hoolie Bacon and the JF Trail the easiest. Glad I don't have to pick just one. Finished this hike around 2:00 so I still had time to do a little hiking in the Goldfield around sunset.
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Hiking9.91 Miles 1,100 AEG
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This was my day to hike the Hoolie Bacon Trail from the Tortilla Trail Head. Or so my plans were. The walk along SVR 213 to the JF Trail went as expected, just another stroll along a three mile road, second time for me. I had the song "On The Road again" stuck in my head almost the whole way. The Snow capping all the peaks around me made the trek along the road seem different almost like I was doing it for the first time. Temperatures were in the upper 30's at the old Tortilla Ranch site and the Pools of water along the road had a layer of ice on them. Not thick enough to walk on so the usual detours around these puddles was still required (about a dozen of them).

Once on the JF Trail the snow was covering the ground and the trail where it wasn't icy was running with water. The ice made the rocks on the trail slick and where the water was running the mud was gooey and sticky, found walking on the snow just off to the side of the trail much easier as it was still a bit frozen. The Hoolie Bacon Trail was the same. The trail had a lot of cat claw across it because the snow pushed or broke the branches onto it. Needed a pair of clippers. Made it down to the first crossing of Tortilla Creek and this is where my plans changed. The creek was running really high and was unable to get across without getting wet up to the waist (Didn't want to bag this trail that bad). I also figured by mid afternoon with the snow melt it would be even higher. (I also didn't want to have an encounter with the blue lilies that Joe encountered on his hike on the Bluff Spring Trail.) Will have to reschedule this hike for another time and include a pair of clippers for the cat claw.

On the return trip I went over to the Peters Trail to check out the creek there, quite different from when I was there a week or so ago. I still had a half a day so I picked another trail and I decided on the lower First Water Creek if it wasn't running too high. First though I thought I would drive over to Fish Creek and check it out. Glad I did because I was thoroughly impressed. Nice drive down a very narrow road. I was probably the only car from Arizona, the rest were from snow bird country from Dakotas to Minnesota and Ohio.

Water report: Water Water everywhere and not a bit that can't be drunk.
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Rogers Canyon - JF Trail LoopGlobe, AZ
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Backpack14.68 Miles 2,905 AEG
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Drove in to the Woodbury trailhead because I don't trust my AWD Saturn Vue to get to Rogers Trough trailhead.

We did this loop in reverse--starting from the Woodbury trailhead and taking the loop to the west.

Emma, Bruce the pooch and I got started on the trail at about 8am. It's the first time I haven't lost the trail immediately from the Woodbury Trail/JF Trail junction . . . some kind soul erected a few cairns, so we were good to go. Pruned thorny branches as I went . . . actually broke my pruners! Hiking up to Tortilla pass was challenging per usual. Weather was perfect. Clear, treatable pools were encountered on the JF Trail south of Rogers Canyon Trail junction. HIking down into the canyon, the brush was extremely overgrown. Unfortunately, by this time I had already broken the pruners . . .

I'm pretty stoked! I've been to this area several times, but logistics never worked out to see the ruins. Got to see them this time! Awesome :)

The creek beside Angel Basin was half-full and flowing. This particular evening happened to include a complete lunar eclipse as well. That was a treat.

It's a fun section of slight bouldering going NE on Rogers Canyon Trail past the cliff dwellings. Once we rolled in to Rogers Trough Trailhead, we needed to hike the road for about 2 miles to join the Woodbury Trail to the JF Trail and back to the Woodbury Trailhead.





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Peters Trail #105Phoenix, AZ
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Went out to check JF Trail and Peters Trail, biked to the TH :o No -- we pushed the bike half way there :sweat: Hitched the bikes to the hitching post and hiked up to and past the Hoolie Bacon Trl. Met Perry, he was spending 3 or 4 nites wandering around the area, he had parked over at Peralta TH. Backed down and went over to Peters, Lots of water coming thru Peters. Went up around the house boulders and had a snack and relaxed along the creek--- peaceful :)
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The drive in on 172/172A was uneventful. Queen Creek had a decent flow, but nothing a vehicle that would be driving these roads couldn't handle. Close to our TH, we saw a large Ford Transit panel van coming down 172A.

Woodbury Trail #114
There was one truck at the TH when we got there.
This trail down to the Woodbury TH appears to be and old road.
Probably a one and done

Coffee Flat Trail #108
This eastern stretch of the Coffee Flat Trail to Red Tanks was new for me. It was an easy stroll through Fraser Canyon. Very pleasant with the green and water everywhere. This would make a nice loop with other canyons in the area.

Red Tanks #107
I'd done this section before but did not remember much of it. It's quite scenic with the views of the surrounding areas and all the flowing water.

Hoolie Bacon # 111
Hoolie Bacon for me, is just a way to get to other places in the Supes. We had lunch at Horse Saddle and it did have some great views. The only hikers we saw all day, were at this saddle. One dayhiker, one backpacker and us just happened to all meet at the same time there. The hike down from Horse Saddle to the North is steep, rough and loose. Once down in the lower sections the trail is much nicer. You easily cross the flowing Tortilla Creek numerous times.

JF Trail #106
The northwestern portions of this trail is just OK. There are BIG views of the surrounding areas that help a bunch.
The trail finally starts to get interesting in the mid section around unnamed Peak 4597. [ photo ] . It seemed to take forever to get to Tortilla Pass. Dropping down JF from Tortilla Pass, there is also some steep, loose washed out areas. Towards the bottom we hit sunset and donned our headlamps.

The 1.2 mile 500'+ climb out on Woodbury to the truck, could not end quick enough.
It was a full day in the Supes.
You couldn't ask for better hiking weather.

With this this loop I'm getting closer to hitting all the trails in the Supes (37 of 39 done).
I Just have the 2 shortest left, with just 1.1 Total miles to go!
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Spring Box has not held water in quite some time. Plenty of water in the spring area

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Hard to tell what was from Tortilla Creek and what was from the Spring

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Plenty of clear cool water

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Most high clearance 2wd vehicles should be able to make the drive. Several water crossings. The only likely issue is for those timid with a gas pedal crossing Queen Creek.

Woodbury Trail #114
Hiked this to scratch if off a list.

Coffee Flat Trail #108
The cow patties get your attention when it's dry. It's a slice of heaven when the creeks are flowing. Really nice saguaros either way.

Red Tanks #107
Five years after our first hike on the eastern side we returned. It didn't ring a bell. A little rough. This trail has four distinct personalities: La Barge Creek, Upper La Barge Box, North of Red Tanks Divide, Red Tanks Canyon. I like 'em all. It's not a trail for flip flops and shorts, come prepared.

Hoolie Bacon # 111
The best part of this trail is Bacon in the name. Horse Ridge saddle is a fine lunch stop with great 360 views. 4143 is better, please keep that a secret.

JF Trail #106
I've jigsawed this in the past, mainly Tule to Peralta. I do not care for either end. The 2.3 mile middle segment from 4597 to Tortilla Pass is worthy. It has a Reavis spirit of intrigue that I find relaxes the mind.

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Bruce suggested JefF out-n-back. Meh... do I know you? He came back with this loop and it was game on! We had perfect temps with all the creeks in taper down flow. I didn't blink at 22+ miles. Boy howdy, 12 hours sucker punched my body.
Hurts so good, great hike!

carried 3.5 quarts, consumed 2.5
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a few sprigs of paintbrush was the main attraction, several dozen blue dicks scattered throughout our loop, two poppies... yeah not much

lots of wiry lotus, which is like getting excited over dollar store cookies
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hikerdw
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 Mesa,AZ
JF Trail #106Phoenix, AZ
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Hiking12.87 Miles 1,986 AEG
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With the forecast of rain we headed out, and if the weather allowed the plan was to attempt a loop hike that I had drafted. Just past Clover Spring the rain started and looking back it looked pretty dark so we made the decision to have a quick snack then make the trek back to the truck. JF Trail is in what I would call "great wilderness shape", meaning easy to follow but you might get a scratch or poke, or, my kind of trail :) The rain picked up when we hit the JF - Hoolie Bacon junction, and continued as we walked out on FR213. Let it rain.

Planned hike, to be continued :D

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Nice deep pools in the drainage at the trail crossing.
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 Chandler, AZ
Tule to First Water, AZ 
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We car camped at the Tule TH Thursday night and started for Reavis Friday morning. It was my first time on Tule and Two Bar Ridge. The trail conditions were pretty good on both, Two Bar packs in some serious elevation fast. Reavis Gap trail was in good shape and provided more opportunity for elevation gain. We arrived at Reavis Ranch 13.8 miles in and got a typical cold Reavis night, a low of about 25.

Saturday morning we headed out on the Reavis Ranch trail over to Frog Tanks, down to Rogers and onto the JF trail, ending at the Tortilla TH for the night. The Frog Tanks trail is more of a game trail in places, overall not very hard to follow but plenty of cats claw. The section of Rogers Canyon trail leading over to JF is in great shape, easy to follow. The first few miles of the JF were in less than ideal conditions in many places but gets super easy as you get closer to the TH. Ended at 17.2 miles for the day.

Sunday morning we started to make our way to First Water, slowly at first. We took Peters trail down to the Dutchman trail, over on Bull Pass and back onto the Dutchman for 4 more character building miles. Peters trail is in great shape thanks to efforts of some great volunteers. Smooth sailing all the way in on the last day.


There is water everywhere out there right now, I never went more than 2 miles without finding water. Great time of year to get out in the Supes.

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Water in the creek

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Water in the creek.

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Water in the creek.

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Water in the creek.

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Water in the creek.

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Water in the creek.
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 Phoenix, AZ
Hoolie Bacon - Peters Trail LoopPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking19.56 Miles 3,895 AEG
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With all the water in the Supes we set out again to see just how much was flowing. But before starting we decided to drive the crappy 4wd road from the Tortilla TH to the start of Peters Trail. It's about 3 mile road but the first 1/2 mile is the really bad section and after that uneventful. Arriving at Peters Trail it was still cool at 39 degrees and the trail immediately goes into a fork of Tortilla Creek. Lots of water in the creek and it became apparent that keeping feet dry would either be impossible or take too much time. The trail is in decent shape besides the crossings and follows one of the Tortilla Creek forks until it goes over a saddle and then dropped into Peters Canyon. Here again there was plenty of water flowing in the creek just like Tortilla.

Followed Peters downstream for another mile and half where the trail abruptly leaves the canyon and heads up a side drainage to another saddle. We went up and over the mesa before dropping into La Barge Canyon but just before that we ran into a trail crew clearing their way up Peters Trail. Surprised to see a crew clearing this trail but it was welcome maintenance since Peters is in rough shape compared to other popular Supes trails.

Upon reaching La Barge Canyon we headed over to Charleblois Spring and had lunch. Several people camped before the spring but we had the spring to ourselves. However, just leaving the spring we ran into @lindaagm and @The_Whit coming from Peralta TH. We took a few minutes to chat...nice to see Linda and Whitney again! After that we headed up La Barge Canyon towards the Red Tanks Junction. Now on Red Tanks this was new trail for us and pretty fast section with a few creek crossings and more water. At the top section of Red Tanks it goes through the most scenic section of the loop the Upper La Barge Box. Really awesome section but unfortunately it was getting late and would have been nice to explore the canyon especially with so much water.

Continuing on we reached the Hoolie Bacon junction and headed up this trail making the turn back towards the vehicle. Hoolie Bacon trail was like Peters being very rough and added cats claw for fun. But again there was plenty of water at virtually every drainage crossing. Up and over a couple of ridges the trail eventually makes it back into Tortilla Canyon to finish up the loop. We made it to the vehicle just as it was getting completely dark. Definitely would like to come back and spend more in Upper La Barge Box and Trap Canyon when there is water like right now.

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mini waterfall coming out of the spring

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heavy flow with many pools
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Hoolie Bacon - Peters Trail LoopPhoenix, AZ
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Did some off trail wandering a little north of the JF / Hoolie Bacon junction. Saw signs of a lot of activity in the area, hunters, Javelina, Deer, and kept running into very smart rabbits (too smart for me at least) Found a series of cairns that seemed to lead over to Lost Dutchman Spring. We also came across a giant cairn on a ridge (33.487392,-111.283408) that I couldn't make sense of its purpose, looks like it took a lot of time and effort to make. Also saw a tremendous White Tail buck that made the whole trip out worth it. Seems to be a ton of trash piles from the 70's or 80's a little north of the trail head, I'm not sure whats worse, drinking Tab or leaving the can for me to find. Awesome area, can't wait to do some more exploring.

There is still water to be found everywhere.
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Tortilla Super LoopPhoenix, AZ
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Great hike, perfect weather today. There is water everywhere, all the creeks are flowing.
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Central Supes Loop, AZ 
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Me and Alex headed to the Superstitions to tackle some new areas we haven't visited before. I wanted hit as much new stuff as possible, and I think I did well clocking in at about 75% new trail vs 25% already visited.

I liked Bluff Springs, western end of Peters Trail, JF Trail, and Rogers Canyon. Tortilla Pass to Rogers Trough was the highlight for both of us. Probably won't be visiting Peters Mesa, Woodbury, or Coffee Flats again anytime soon. Alex had similar opinions. We both felt this route was mostly drab and little flash, I probably wouldn't do this route again as it is plotted, I would take the parts I like and combine them with something else.

We checked out the Peralta Map and Rogers Canyon Ruins. Both were well worth the small side trips. Probably the 2 easiest ruins to "find" in the Supes, but still exciting and has us craving more.

The biggest surprise for both of us was how long these fall colors are holding on. Probably another week of good color.

We were fighting against the limited amount daylight the entire trip. Comfortable 20+ mile days this time of year, for me personally, is probably a little too optimistic. 10 hours of daylight, 2 mph, hard to get up early because its cold. You do the math. 15-17 mile per-day would probably be more enjoyable.

Water was not plentiful but the reliable sources are going strong after the rain. Bluff Springs to Kane Spring is pretty wet. Kane Spring to Clove Spring is dry. Pools near Clove Spring. Clove Spring to Reavis Ranch JCT is dry as a bone. Reavis Ranch JCT to Rogers Trough had the most water out of any drainage. Intermittent, varying sized pools along Coffee Flat Trail.

Trail Conditions
Peters Trail generally easy to follow, a couple of hiccups on top of the Mesa and near Tortilla Creek. A few spots of dodging prickly pear and agave on the Mesa, but mostly clean trail.

JF Trail Great trail from Tortilla Creek TH to Hoolie Bacon JCT. Several hiccups along ridge between Clove Spring and Tortilla Pass. Wear long pants.

Rogers Canyon Immaculate from Tortilla Pass to Angel Basin. A little brushy, and a couple hiccups between Roger Canyon Ruins and Reavis Ranch Trail JCT.

Woodbury Trail A couple of hiccups, vague tread at times. Lots of cattle activity...

Coffee Flat Several hiccups, usually just best to follow the wash. Lots of cattle activity...
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Nice colors at the lowest elevations, near La Barge and along Coffee Flat.

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Several small to medium sized pools in the area.

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Nice and clear water at the lower pool. Looks larger than my last visit. Didn't check actual spring or upper pool.

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Did not visit spring, several small to medium sized pools located in drainage near here.

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Not sure if I found the actual spring. Several large pools in the area.

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Lots of great water here, should be reliable for a while.

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Dry from Reavis Ranch Trail JCT to Angel Basin. Large pools and trickle from Reavis Ranch Trail JCT to Rogers Trough TH.

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Dry as a bone.

dry Whetrock Canyon Dry Dry

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 Gilbert AZ
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DallinW
Hiking8.84 Miles 2,210 AEG
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This area has eluded me for one reason or another over the past couple of months. I woke up this morning and decided today was the day I would get my feet wet in the central Supes. I had a couple of other hikes I was considering, all much more beefy than this one, but I was mostly interested in something new. I came across the La Barge Mountain hike on here last year, and it piqued my interests, so I thought I would give it a shot.

I downloaded the route, and off I went down Hewitt Canyon road.

JF Trail starts out along the closed road from Woodbury TH to some water tanks and troughs. One of the troughs was full of water, and that was the only water I saw for the entire day. I got suckered into a cattle trail at the tanks, heading northeast for a minute, but corrected once it started heading away from Randolph Canyon, instead of into it. That was the only navigational hiccup I had on JF, otherwise, from Woodbury TH to Tortilla Pass the trail is easy to follow and in pretty good shape.

About half way up the pass, I had an encounter with some Javelina. All but one ran away once they saw me. I wasn't sure if the one was frozen because it was afraid or if it meant business. I made some loud noises, and eventually it ran off.

At the pass, I didn't stop and immediately got started right into the off-trail portion of the hike. The route I was on started with sporadic use or game trails, with no cairns. I stayed near the fence heading up the first hill. The brush can be thick in a few places if you don't choose wisely. If you have the patience, it probably isn't that bad for most. I didn't today, and was pretty disheartened when I reached the top of the first hill to see much more brush along the hill sides where I thought the route was taking me. To be honest, I was expecting a use-trail with cairns like a lot of the other "off trail" hikes listed on HAZ. This one doesn't see much traffic, don't expect much. I wandered around the open areas for a minute before turning around, defeated for today, but I will be back. :)

I contemplated if I would have enough time to loop back around via Rogers Canyon, and a road-walk from Rogers Trough to Woodbury, but it wasn't going to work today. I hit a small high point along the ridge before finishing my back track to JF Trail. Then, before returning the way I came, I took a quick look up the Rogers Canyon Trail.

I really liked this area and plan on returning soon, but not just to finish the peak. I can see how you could easily get sucked into wandering around here.

I didn't see a single person on trail all day, which made this place feel much more remote. Given how close I still was to the Woodbury TH, I'm going to assume this was probably because it was a weekday.

The temps were mild today, and the light breeze on top of Tortilla Pass kept the sweat off my forehead. Peak bagged or not, it was a well spent day in the Supes, on my 25th Birthday.
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Went on a overnighter with Bob, camped at Charlebois. Still lots of water available along the way.
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