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Whiskey Spring Trail #238 - 26 members in 117 triplogs have rated this an average 3.4 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Mar 08 2019
KBKB
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57 male
 Joined Apr 22 2012
 Fountain Hills,
Miners Needle LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Mar 08 2019
KBKB
Hiking10.13 Miles 1,814 AEG
Hiking10.13 Miles   5 Hrs   42 Mns   2.16 mph
1,814 ft AEG   1 Hour    Break24 LBS Pack
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Marilyn, Marilyn, Sara, Ben, Nick, Mike, and I hiked the Miner's Needle Loop on Friday, the 8th.

This was my first time around this loop. It was a lot more scenic than I expected it to be. It's definitely worth doing.

I added on a bit of distance by hiking a short ways on Whiskey Spring #238 while the others ate lunch. I kept this diversion short, however, because it was cool and somewhat breezy that day and I didn't want the others to get cold waiting for me. As it turns out, I arrived back at the group just as they were finishing lunch. Anyway, I found there to be great views of both the Miner's Needle and Weaver's Needle at the top of the first significant hill while hiking up the Whiskey Spring Trail.

It was still wet out - Bluff Springs was wet in spots, plus we had to cross the water a few times. We found convenient stepping stones for doing so.
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Feb 15 2019
bretinthewild
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32 male
 Joined Apr 01 2018
 Phoenix, AZ
Red Tanks Super Loop - Peralta THPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Backpack avatar Feb 15 2019
bretinthewild
Backpack20.00 Miles 2,870 AEG
Backpack20.00 Miles3 Days         
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Water, water everywhere! Took a friend into the Supes this weekend. We did the Red Tanks Super Loop clockwise with a twist. Started Friday night by going up cardiac hill on Bluff Spring and made it to camp by dusk. Saturday we looped around to Dripping Spring via Dutchman, Whiskey Spring and Red Tanks. I hiked this loop the opposite direction a couple years ago and was glad to be going downhill after Red Tanks divide. Sunday we had a nice stroll back on Coffee Flat and Dutchman through Barkley Basin. Great to see so much moving water in the mountains!
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Feb 09 2019
emilystardust
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37 female
 Joined Jun 23 2015
 Phoenix, AZ
Red Tanks Backpacking Loop, AZ 
Red Tanks Backpacking Loop, AZ
 
Backpack avatar Feb 09 2019
emilystardust
Backpack22.90 Miles
Backpack22.90 Miles2 Days         
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1st trip
Dutchman to Coffee Flat to Red Tanks to Whiskey Spring and back out Dutchman. Challenging route for me on the first day but trying to get better at backpacking. Definitely need to lighten up my gear. I went with a nice group of people, just fast 😂
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Jan 20 2019
Tough_Boots
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40 male
 Joined Mar 28 2008
 Phoenix, AZ
Whiskey West-Red Tanks LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Jan 20 2019
Tough_Boots
Hiking14.27 Miles 2,310 AEG
Hiking14.27 Miles   6 Hrs   7 Mns   2.43 mph
2,310 ft AEG      15 Mns Break
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Beautiful day out. Just me and the dog.
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Jan 19 2019
AZBeaver
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65 female
 Joined Jan 04 2014
 Phoenix, AZ
Superstitions White Rock & Whiskey Springs, AZ 
Superstitions White Rock & Whiskey Springs, AZ
 
Backpack avatar Jan 19 2019
AZBeaver
Backpack23.00 Miles 3,000 AEG
Backpack23.00 Miles3 Days         
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Participated in a 3-day backpacking trip with the Arizona Backpacking Club in the beautiful Superstitions. Our plan was to camp at White Rock Springs the first night and then Whiskey Springs the second. Although there was plenty of water all along our hike, water at both of our campsites wasn't the best. Camped 1/2 mile from Charlebois Spring adding a mile to get water to and from camp the first night. The 2nd night at Whiskey Springs had adequate water but not the best. LaBarge had the best water, and approximately 2 miles before getting to Whiskey Springs (near Trap Canyon Spring) had a great pond and camping area on the right side of the trail. Backpacked with 7 people. I was probably the least experienced of the group but did well. The beauty of the Superstitions makes the difficult trek all worth it. We got to see the lunar eclipse; however, the clouds obscured viewing. Weather was perfect. Flowers are beginning to come out. It was a great weekend meeting new people. I wanted to keep my back to no more than 30 lbs, therefore, sacrificed my backpacking chair. I really missed that chair at camp. We had a campfire each night which was really nice.
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Jan 05 2019
nathanbrisk
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33 male
 Joined Aug 06 2009
 Phoenix, AZ
Whiskey West-Red Tanks LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Backpack avatar Jan 05 2019
nathanbrisk
Backpack8.78 Miles 1,392 AEG
Backpack8.78 Miles   5 Hrs   42 Mns   2.19 mph
1,392 ft AEG   1 Hour   41 Mns Break
 
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Day 1:

Started up at the Peralta trailhead at about 7:30am bundled up a bit. We ended up doing this loop in reverse via the east. Trimmin thorns as we went . . .headed east on the Dutchman trail, north on Whiskey Spring trail, then west on Red Tanks trail until we reached Bluff Springs Canyon. We put down camp here, and there were a few different groups who had spent the prior night there. Whiskey Spring was bone dry, but La Barge Spring was going strong. There were plenty of clear pools along Red Tanks as well. One group brought along a dog that was quite territorial . . . coming over to our camp to bark aggressively every few minutes. They rolled out that evening (perhaps due to the forecast).

It rained alllll night. Pretty nice!

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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout some bad pools
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Dec 10 2018
markthurman53
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 Tucson, Arizona
Peters and Red Tanks Loop, AZ 
Peters and Red Tanks Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Dec 10 2018
markthurman53
Hiking19.35 Miles 3,243 AEG
Hiking19.35 Miles   9 Hrs   48 Mns   2.44 mph
3,243 ft AEG   1 Hour   52 Mns Break20 LBS Pack
 
1st trip
It was great weather for another trip up to the Superstitions to hike portions of the Red Tanks and Peter’s Trail. The objective was to hike the northern most portion of the Red Tanks Trail (2 miles) and the first 1.5 miles of the Peter’s Trail. I only needed to do a short section of the Peter’s Trail so when I finish it from the other end I won’t have a 20 plus mile hike. It took almost a 20 mile hike though to accomplish this. As usual the superstitions didn’t disappoint. I was a little surprised at the lack of water in the creeks after the storms just a few days earlier (we got just under an inch last week in Tucson). There was more water in LaBarge last month when I was through here, of course that was after the tropical storm passed through. The sky was slightly overcast but the sun still shown through a bit, made for pleasant hiking but the pictures are a little flat and lacking in color.

I started out on the Bluff Spring Trail at about 0650 before sunrise. I got a couple hundred yards in and this rock grabbed my boot and I tripped and fell (hate it when they do that). The good news is I caught my fall with my hands, the bad news is I broke the tip of my middle finger again, the same joint I broke 20 years ago. It was just starting to get back to normal from the first break too. I continued with the hike because who needs a left middle finger anyway, I still have my right middle finger if I need it. The only time it was a bother was when I needed to button a button, tie a boot, cinch a strap or reach in a pocket. The sun lit up the peaks as I was in Bark’s Canyon. There were a few pools of water in the creek but nothing running and the pools were minimal. Not sure I would use the water unless it was absolutely necessary. Probably every animal in the area has been using it. Made it to the Dutchman Trail in 1.5 hours and didn’t check the condition of Bluff spring, so no water report. Continued on the Dutchman to the Peter’s Trail Junction in 3 hours. Travel along this portion of the Dutchman is smooth going. No water in LaBarge Creek along this portion of the trail (not counting LaBarge Spring).

The Peter’s Trail I thought was in pretty good condition, meaning I had no issues staying on trail. Does a steady uphill climb pretty much up to Peter’s Mesa (not strenuous). The trail about a half mile in turns to the north and heads up a small unnamed canyon and follows this pretty much up to just below the mesa. As the trail ascends this small canyon there is a rock wall spanning the creek, maybe 50 to 100 yards long, too long and porous for a dam I figured it must be some kind of corral or fence. Once on the mesa I took lunch and a half hour break. I wanted to finish up this portion of the trail so when I come in from the other end from the Tortilla Trail Head I won’t have a 20 + mile round trip hike. I suspect that the Forest service Road 213 to the east end of the Peter’s Trail will not be navigable; at least it doesn’t look good from Google Earth.

I headed back down the Peter’s Trail to the Dutchman and then the Red Tanks Trail. I took a short water break at LaBarge Spring which was trickling at about a quart a minute. I resupplied my water here and was kind of surprised the water was not really cold like you expect from a spring but it was good. There were some 3 leafed plants around the spring kind of viney looking, I am familiar with poison oak and it wasn’t that but do we have poison ivy here. Either way after I picked my pack up out of it I left it alone. I have a rule, if it has 3 leaves or if it rattles or hisses leave it alone. The Red Tanks Trail is easy to follow and allowed for lots of site seeing to the east of Music Mountain and the south of Coffee Flat Mountain. No water in the creek along this trail until you get close to the trail junction of the Whiskey Spring Trail. It did not appear to be running but there were some pools with lots of algae, again only if it was necessary.

The Whiskey Spring Trail I have been on before but this time in the opposite direction, slightly uphill most of the way but nothing to break a sweat over. Whiskey Spring had water in the trough but I don’t think it was running, it was a little low in the trough. I didn’t leave the trail to check it out, kind of did a fly by glance. There are great views from the Whiskey Spring Trail junction with the Dutchman Trail of where I was on the Peter’s Trail, Music Mountain and I believe Tortilla Peak to the north and to the south over Barkley Basin. It was now 3:00 with 4.5 miles to go and I started to feel a little easier about making it back by sunset. 20 mile hikes with a good amount of AEG is pushing it for me on these short days.

I have included in the photos a picture of FSR 213 near the Apache Trail road (Hwy 88). As I figured this road is doable but I don’t think it is worth the risk of having something go wrong. There were plenty of scrape marks on the rocks and piece parts of vehicles that have gone before. For me the 3 mile hike (6 miles round trip) to the east end of Peter’s and Hoolie Bacon is the way to go. Looks like a nice loop trail if you have a shuttle would be the Peter’s Canyon route to the Peters Trail and back to the Tortilla Trail Head along Hwy 88.

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There was water in the trough but it was low so not not sure if it was even dripping.
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Nov 18 2018
rayhuston
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61 male
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 Gilbert, AZ
La Barge Spring Loop, AZ 
La Barge Spring Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Nov 18 2018
rayhuston
Hiking15.45 Miles 2,895 AEG
Hiking15.45 Miles   7 Hrs   2 Mns   2.42 mph
2,895 ft AEG      39 Mns Break
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Plan A was to summit Coffee Flat mountain, but when I reached the west end of the ridge and looked ahead to the goal, I thought it would be more fun than I had time for, so I did a big loop instead.

It's dry out there, but La Barge Spring is full and pumping at a quart a minute. Pools in some spots along La Barge creek. The trails are in good shape, although the cat claw was clawing along parts of Whiskey Spring and Red Tanks trails.

Beautiful day in the Supes.

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Nov 08 2018
markthurman53
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 Tucson, Arizona
Red Tanks Coffee Flat Loop, AZ 
Red Tanks Coffee Flat Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Nov 08 2018
markthurman53
Hiking20.15 Miles 3,149 AEG
Hiking20.15 Miles   10 Hrs   15 Mns   2.42 mph
3,149 ft AEG   1 Hour   56 Mns Break20 LBS Pack
 
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I had time for a one day hike in the Superstitions and opted to do the Red Tanks, Coffee Flat Loop in the clockwise direction. This time I drove up to Apache Junction very early in the morning and headed back to Tucson that evening rather than do the usual stay in Apache Junction for a multiple day hikes. This hike was about 20 miles and I was concerned whether I could do it with the shorter days so it required starting before sunrise. On the up side, it is very satisfying being on the trail and watching the sun rise. The temps were in the low 50’s at the start, perfect for hiking so there was no need to be freezing chanting “come on sun”.

I started out from the Peralta Trail Head at about 0630 on the Dutchman Trail. Beautiful walk through Barkley Basin as the sun was rising. The desert was very green and the ocotillos were green with leaves thanks to the tropical storm in October. Made it to Miners Needle fairly quickly and headed up Miners canyon to the Whiskey Springs Trail. That rock formation just east of Minors Needle at the head of Miners canyon is quite interesting but I cannot find a name for it anywhere, surely someone has given it a name, probably even climbed it. The Dutchman Trail is in excellent condition as it gets plenty of use. The trail does such a nice job of climbing to the saddle near Miners Summit that you hardly notice that you just ascended about 700 feet.

At the Saddle near Miners Summit the Whiskey Spring Trail heads east for about 2 miles to the Red Tanks Trail. This trail is generally downhill most of the way to where it ends in La Barge Canyon. Didn’t notice any water in Whiskey Spring Canyon but by the looks of the large sycamore at Whiskey Spring there may have been water there. I didn’t check it out as I was concerned about finishing this hike before sunset. The Whiskey Spring Trail is in Good condition all the way to its terminus at La Barge Creek and the Red Tanks Trail.

The Red Tanks Trail Heads east up upper La Barge Box Canyon past the Hoolie Bacon Trail and up and over the Red Tanks Divide. From the divide there are views to the north of the upper La Barge Canyon and to the south Red Tanks, Randolph and Fraser Canyons. The Red Tanks Trail coming from the north is a gradual climb to the divide but a little steep and rocky on the descent in to Red Tanks Canyon. There were no issues staying on trail, I thought it was pretty well defined and cairns marked places where it crosses a creek. I Ran in to two hikers, the only ones of the day, near the Hoolie Bacon Trail. They were doing the same hike but in two days and camped in Upper La Barge Canyon.

The Coffee Flat Trail starts and the Red Tanks Trail ends at the junction of Randolph and Fraser Canyon. The rock is a reddish color and pools of water that form in and around these rocks probably are what give the Red Tanks Trail and canyon it’s name. The Coffee Flat Trail is well marked in most places and easy to follow. It follows Randolph Canyon as it heads west and heads up over a small rise to Coffee Flat where Randolph Creek starts to head to the southwest. Watch for this change of direction of the trail because I missed it and continued on down Randolph to Whitlow Canyon where I discovered I was off trail. I really need to check my GPS more often (I say this every time I get off trail; I guess old dogs don’t learn new tricks). The old topo maps show this trail and it continues down toward Whitlow Ranch to the south. After checking my GPS I opted to continue on up whitlow Canyon until I connected back up with the Coffee Flat Trail. Overall the Coffee Flat Trail is well defined all the way to the Dutchman Trail, just watch for the cairns when in the creek bed.

Great hike. Completed the hike in about 8 hours with about 2 hours stopped or resting. got back to the Peralta Trail Head just before sunset. The gallon of water I brought was plenty but I did fill my canteen cup up from one of the pools when I took a break at the Randolph - Fraser Canyon Junction. The water was much cooler than what I was carrying. Always have to give your immune system something to work on otherwise it forgets what it is there for; especially in our so sterile everyday environment (This is just a comment not advice).

My scale at home broke a record when I weighed myself at home. I have never seen it below 170 before but when I weighed in after this hike it was 169. I brought lots of high calorie snacks with me on this hike because when it says I could burn 3500 calories on this hike I knew the usual 500 to 1000 calories wasn't going to cut it. The next morning I was back up to 171 and I assume I will gain a couple more as I re hydrate over the next day or so.
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Oct 27 2018
AndrewAZ
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39 male
 Joined Feb 27 2012
 Phoenix, AZ
Dripping Springs Super LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Oct 27 2018
AndrewAZ
Hiking19.00 Miles 3,200 AEG
Hiking19.00 Miles
3,200 ft AEG
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I went east on Dutchman's Trail 104 from the Peralta TH to Coffee Flat 108, east on Coffee Flat to Red Tanks 107, north on Red Tanks and then west through Upper Labarge Box, south and west on Whiskey Spring 238, and south and west on Dutchman 104 to get back to the TH. My Green Trails map claims that is 19 miles.

I got started at about 6:15 and wondered how long it would take me to see another person. The answer was 15 minutes because a cute, blonde trailrunner passed me with her dog at that point. However, aside from people in the parking area, that was the only person I saw all day. It's possible that heat kept people off the trails. If I had had any sense, it would've kept me away.

The trailrunner must've stayed on Dutchman because the number of spider webs I walked through went way up after I turned onto Coffee Flat trail. Coffee Flat trail through lower Randolph Canyon was brushy, but nicely shaded. The shade vanished once I turned up Red Tanks. The scenery along Red Tanks was spectacular, although it would've been much more enjoyable at 65 degrees instead of 85. I would rank Red Tanks up there with Hoolie Bacon and Peters Trail for great scenery plus remote wilderness feel.

With all the rain, I had expected lots of water. There were a few pools here and there, but not much. It was a small trickle in Upper Labarge Box instead of the torrent it had been in February after the rain.

I thought Red Tanks in Upper Labarge Box would be easier to navigate when it dropped down the to the wash without all the water to hide the trail. Nope. The trail still just vanished for a while and required some boulder hopping. I found it for a while only to have it vanish again.

There was some trickling water when I turned on Whiskey Spring trail, so I filtered a liter. I could've made it back to the truck with what I had left (I had started with 2 liters), but it would've been unpleasant.

Red Tanks is obviously not the most popular trail, but I hoped Whiskey Spring had seen more use to make the remainder of my day easier. It was not to be. Whiskey Spring was also quite brushy due to the rains, and the brush all had thorns. I mean, it wasn't brushy like the GET through the Santa Teresas (the horror, the horror...), but I still got sliced up.

The heat and mileage had really taken their toll by the time I got back to Dutchmans. The drop past Miners Needle and the stretch back to the TH was more of a forced march than I would've liked.

I think I have now done every major trail in the western Superstitions on my Green Trails map. I guess it's time to start working on the central and east portions as well as the questionable dotted-line trails. The JF-Cedar Basin-Red Tanks-upper Randolph Canyon loop looks like a memorable one...
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Feb 25 2018
The_N
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 Payson, AZ
Herman's CavePhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 25 2018
The_N
Hiking13.50 Miles 1,680 AEG
Hiking13.50 Miles   8 Hrs      1.93 mph
1,680 ft AEG   1 Hour    Break
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Accepted an invite to check out a cave I've never heard of, or even noticed while walking by. This allowed me to also walk a couple of stretches of trail in the area that I hadn't recently walked. We started out on Dutchman. Surprisingly quiet morning on the trail. We started seeing backpackers once on Whiskey Spring. The spring was lightly flowing and some decent pools had formed. This entire stretch of Whiskey was in great shape. Once in LaBarge via Red Tanks, we off-trailed it up to the cave. It's an impressive structure, but not useable for anything other than a wildlife hideout. Totally slanted floors give it a cathedral feel. I exited and enjoyed the canyon views while Brittany navigated the cave while attempting to stay upright. We headed back the way we came, and took an extended lunch break in the shade near Whiskey Spring. The rest of the return trip was in full sun, but a breeze and nice temps made it pleansant. All trails were in good shape and easy to follow. We didn't see any one on the trails during the second half of the hike. Surprising for such a nice day.
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Jan 22 2018
Mike_Fels
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 Chandler, AZ
Dripping Springs Super LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Jan 22 2018
Mike_Fels
Hiking20.75 Miles 3,677 AEG
Hiking20.75 Miles   9 Hrs   56 Mns   2.32 mph
3,677 ft AEG   1 Hour    Break
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Five years ago I did this hike for the first time, exactly one month later in the year. And going in a clockwise direction.

I get ahead of myself... I started out just before 7 from the Peralta TH to do a 14 mile hike, 7 miles out Coffee Flat and back. When I got to where the Read Tanks joins the Coffee Flat I made the decision to change my itinerary. I'd take the Red Tanks back. I figured I'd done this before, it was a cooler day than the previous time, I had plenty of water and I was indestructible. Of course I ignored that I didn't have any food and I was 5 years older. Going CCW was really different, the up hills seemed longer and steeper. On the first trip the trail was covered in wildflowers. This time it was covered in cats claw and prickly pears. Going CCW I found that I tended to loose the trail easier than I remember happening the first time.

Then by the time I got to the Whiskey Springs turn off I was already tired, and still had to up that hill.

The first trip I rated this loop as a 5, if I were going to rate it today it'd probably only be a 3. Wow quite a difference.

There were two really good things about the hike. The sights at the upper LaBarge box were better going this direction. Never saw the spire and cave from the other direction. The other great thing is I made it.
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Jan 21 2018
Tough_Boots
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 Phoenix, AZ
Whiskey West-Red Tanks LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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Tough_Boots
Hiking14.60 Miles 2,561 AEG
Hiking14.60 Miles
2,561 ft AEG
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Perfect day. Just me and Lily. We made really great time and were back to the car by 2pm.
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Jan 06 2018
hikerdw
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 Mesa,AZ
Miners Whiskey, AZ 
Miners Whiskey, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jan 06 2018
hikerdw
Hiking12.17 Miles 2,116 AEG
Hiking12.17 Miles   5 Hrs   33 Mns   2.42 mph
2,116 ft AEG      31 Mns Break
 
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Hiked the Miners Needle Loop with a side trip down Whiskey Spring Trail. Saw no other hikers until we reached Bluff Spring Trail. Fantastic day hiking, if only I could figure out how to make a living doing this :D

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Some water in the trough but not that inviting. Better water was seen downstream.
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John9L
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Whiskey West-Red Tanks LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Dec 28 2017
John9L
Hiking14.52 Miles 2,559 AEG
Hiking14.52 Miles   5 Hrs   32 Mns   2.77 mph
2,559 ft AEG      18 Mns Break
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Had the day off so I headed into the Supes for a moderate loop hike. Started off heading up the Dutchman Trail and connected onto the Whiskey Spring Trail. I stopped by the spring and saw a small pool that didn't look very appetizing. The good thing is there are three medium size pools roughly 40 ft below the spring. The water was cool and clear and ideal for filtering.

I continued on and took a short break at the Red Tanks Trail junction. From there I headed northwest and stopped at La Barge Spring. I hiked up the embankment and the found the spring overflowing with water. There is a small stream coming out of a pipe. I would guess a liter a minute. It looked really good!

The last few miles to the trailhead blurred by & I was done hiking around early afternoon. I was on my way home when Chumley texted about 9L Peak. I ended up joining him. Good timing and great day on the trails!

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Plenty of water that was clear and cool. Steady stream coming out of a pipe above the trough

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Three medium size pools roughly 40 ft below the spring. Water was clear and ideal for filtering
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Dec 18 2017
Mike_Fels
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 Chandler, AZ
Whiskey West-Red Tanks LoopPhoenix, AZ
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Mike_Fels
Hiking14.97 Miles 2,424 AEG
Hiking14.97 Miles   6 Hrs   56 Mns   2.33 mph
2,424 ft AEG      31 Mns Break
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Bright and sunny day. Trails weren't too bad except for the west one or two miles of the Red Tanks. It was pretty overgrown with catclaw, cactus and other bushes. Nothing too serious but it made me glad I had long pants, long sleeved shirt and big brimmed hat. The rain last night caused a few puddles but no flowing water to be seen. I liked the Red Tanks from Whisky Springs down to Dripping Springs much better than this portion.
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Dec 14 2017
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 Triplogs 139

38 male
 Joined Aug 19 2009
 The Basin
Dripping Springs Super LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Dec 14 2017
survivordude
Hiking22.75 Miles 4,076 AEG
Hiking22.75 Miles   9 Hrs   24 Mns   2.64 mph
4,076 ft AEG      47 Mns Break
 
1st trip
I could not decide where to go for birthday hike and stumbled upon this one the night before. I did the research and loaded the maps and I still was not prepared enough for this one. Only 15 minutes of headlamp needed on the Dutchman trail and then through Barkley Basin and to Coffee Flats. This is the easiest hike in all of the Superstitions. IMO The actual hiking is incredibly dull, but those views at sunrise are just some of the best I have ever seen. Also, the thousands of saguaro created quite a forest leading up to the king saguaro. Most arms I have ever seen. Made it to the old trough and windmill at Randolph Canyon in 2 hours and thought I was making great time. Randolph in the fall is beautiful! The colors on all of the trees increased as the canyon walls tightened. As I was making my way to Dripping springs, I saw several of the smallest seeps coming out of the rocks below. The actual spring was dripping.. barely. Only water I saw all day. The camp spot there seems like it would be a great one when the creek is flowing. There were some small caves above but I didnt feel like climbing around in there and I had a lot more hike ahead of me.. A lot more. The start of the Red Tanks section was very gradual and mis-leading! :x After gaining 500 feet in 2 1/2 miles, the trail goes steeper and gains another 500 feet in about 1 mile. Took a lunch break here at 5 hours in. I knew I still had the climb out of Whiskey to Miner's, but I assumed because I was at the highest point on the hike, the rest would be easy peasy. It was not easy peasy. Coming over the saddle into Red Tanks Divide, the views were spectacular and everything was so green and lush. Sometimes it doesnt even make sense that this is considered a desert.. then again, this is December. After not too long I got to really enjoy that lushness up close and personal, as the brush became so thick at times it was nearly impassable. Also, the 'brush' was actually bushes completely made of thorns. At times I felt like I was in the first 'Saw' movie with all the barbed wire. Wearing shorts was not a problem as mostly all of the terrible stuff was waist and above. It had no problem ripping through 2 layers of clothing and shredding half my body. I was shuddering at the thoughts of the show 'Naked and Afraid'. I haven't had my fingers scratched up like that since I bought my daughter a kitten 3 years ago. Trying to go around the trail and find a 'better' way was futile, so I sucked it up and just pushed though. Scared a white tail up the hill (from my shrills of pain probably). Much wildlife will be sustained in those mountains due to the amounts of my flesh torn off and left on those thorns. I finally made it through the worst of it as I got to Upper LaBarge Canyon? This canyon was very remarkable due to it was like 2 views in one the way you peered down through the canyon, and then off to far away landscapes between and beyond. The trail stays mostly on the northern side of the canyon, but once it drops down into the creek, there were some gigantic boulders to navigate and climb around that took some extra time for route finding. Saw the very large Herman's Cave, but didnt bother to even check it out because at that point I was exhausted. Took a well deserved break at the Red Tanks/ Whiskey Springs junction and recharged. The hike up to Miner's saddle was not that bad and I did have enough energy to pick up the pace quite a bit down the hill. Probably not a good idea, because just about the 20 mile mark, I could feel myself starting to really break down. Back at the Coffee Flat junction my legs went into auto pilot. I couldn't feel them moving but they kept going and so did I, and an hour later I was back at the Peralta TH.
This was a fantastic hike that is only meant for an elite few, because it is an extremely tough one! Always good to push your limits but you have to know what those limits are and respect your own intuitions. I really pushed myself out there and maybe too much because that night and since then, I have had a pretty bad fever. I'm sure I will be all well for next Thursday's hike! Be safe out there, everyone!
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Dripping Spring Reeds Water


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dry Miners Canyon Dry Dry

dry Randolph Canyon Dry Dry


dry Reeds Water Dry Dry

dry Whiskey Spring Dry Dry
didnt see spring but also saw zero water in the whole area

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Mar 12 2017
survivordude
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 Routes 59
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 Triplogs 139

38 male
 Joined Aug 19 2009
 The Basin
Charlebois Loop IIPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Mar 12 2017
survivordude
Hiking17.97 Miles 2,972 AEG
Hiking17.97 Miles   7 Hrs   4 Mns   2.80 mph
2,972 ft AEG      39 Mns Break
 
1st trip
Starting to get toasty out there so wanted to get back to the Supes while there was still some water out there for Gabby dog and not roast myself. 1 for 2 today.. Dutchman up to Miner's needle is one of my favorite stretches of easy hiking. As the trail gradually ascends, it awards spectacular views of Barkley Basin and surrounding areas with thousands of Saguaro. I love saguaro. After making the saddle just past Miner's needle, I headed down to Whiskey Spring for some new territory for me. Lots of water flowing in just about every creekbed still. Whiskey Spring was nice and shaded and there was a good camp spot there. Passed one guy who was on a 3 day backpack, coming from LaBarge who thought I was crazy trying to get to Charlebois in one day.. Rook.. Red Tanks trail was pretty straight forward, just follow the creek, crossing occasionally. I did actually lose the trail once but again following the creek got me to LaBarge Spring, where I met 2 backpackers also headed to Charlebois. Back to familiar territory but now I had a mission.. to find the MASTER MAP! I knew roughly where it was at but it eluded my last search. Never giving up hope but starting to doubt my location, I headed to a higher ground to get a broader view and when I turned around it was right there! :y: For me this was a great feeling of accomplishment. I studied the wall and appreciated the history before me for several minutes before heading to Charlebois. Met another guy hanging out right at the spur and told him about the sweet spot further back and invited him to come along with me. He agreed, I turned around and POOF! he was gone.. superstition strangeness.. I ate lunch and enjoyed one of my all time favorite spots in the Supes. Made my way back towards La Barge Spring and passed 4 more groups between there and the Dutchman junction. At this point it started to get hot. Mid-day, little to zero shade, and a steady incline with the miles racking up, I started to tire just a little bit. It was then I found the perfect break spot under a huge boulder right in the middle of the trail. Gabby and I literally just sat in the water for 10 minutes to cool off. Coming down Bluff Spring trail I was thankful I was not hiking the other direction! Made it to the Peralta superhighway and the parking lot in 7 hours. This 18 miles kicked my :pk: pretty good and Gabby hasn't gotten off the couch for 2 days.. = Another awesome Superstition hike!
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Miners Needle Oak Spring
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Wildflowers Observation Moderate
Lots of color out there but not quite in full bloom yet.

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water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Bluff Spring Dripping Dripping

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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Music Canyon Medium flow Medium flow

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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Whiskey Spring Canyon Medium flow Medium flow
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Mar 01 2017
Mike_Fels
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 Routes 17
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71 male
 Joined Jan 07 2010
 Chandler, AZ
Miners Needle LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Mar 01 2017
Mike_Fels
Hiking14.01 Miles 2,571 AEG
Hiking14.01 Miles   6 Hrs   26 Mns   2.32 mph
2,571 ft AEG      23 Mns Break
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This hike started out being the Whiskey West/Red Tanks loop. But when I got to La Barge creek there was so much water that I just couldn't find a spot I was comfortable with for crossing. So I retraced Whiskey Spring trail and turned the hike into Miners Needle loop. First of all I have never liked going up the hill on Whiskey Spring Trail, it just seems to go on forever. I know that's silly, it's shorter than the one up to Miner's Needle saddle, but...

Every tiny watershed was full of water. There were dozens of little creekettes running down the trails. Lots of muddy areas and puddles on the trails. But it was beautiful. At 6:30am there was quite a wind, cold too. But when the sun came up it warmed up nicely. Great day for a hike. Wet enough for it to be different than usual.
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Feb 04 2017
Tough_Boots
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40 male
 Joined Mar 28 2008
 Phoenix, AZ
Whiskey West-Red Tanks LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 04 2017
Tough_Boots
Hiking15.00 Miles 2,435 AEG
Hiking15.00 Miles
2,435 ft AEG
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Really nice day out. This hike was a little longer than usual-- we had to park at the overflow lot. All those cars but we saw so few people out :D I'm getting over a cold and thought hiking may be a bad idea but I'd made plans with a couple friends I don't get to hike with very often so I didn't want to cancel. I was a bit worn out by the end of the day but the shade on the climb out of Barks set me back straight and I finished strong. The dogs had a great time with all the water.
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