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Nov 03 2018
Zort
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50 male
 Joined Aug 12 2004
 Phoenix, AZ
Rustic 7 Springs Ride from Bronco TH, AZ 
Rustic 7 Springs Ride from Bronco TH, AZ
 
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Zort
Mtn Biking21.13 Miles 3,355 AEG
Mtn Biking21.13 Miles   8 Hrs   10 Mns   3.00 mph
3,355 ft AEG   1 Hour   7 Mns Break
 
1st trip
Having a more positive experience than expected the previous weekend on Bronco (247), on Saturday 11/3 I decided to go back out, add some mileage and up the ante with a ride from Bronco TH, pursuing a very rustic CCW loop on: Trail 4 south from the TH :next: Cottonwood (247) south :next: Skunk Creek (246) south and west :next: Quien Sabe (250) south with a jog west through Matty's Fork then south again :next: Skull Mesa (248) west then south :next: Cottonwood (247) east/northeast :next: Bronco (245) east then northeast with a nice downhill bomb back to the Bronco TH. See the GPX.

8:56 AM - Rode from Bronco TH to Trail 4 TH. The road is in decent shape. Passenger cars will have no problem. Things are drying a bit, so it's pretty dusty again.

9:13 AM - Started on Trail 4. Riparian loveliness down along the creek. Nice photo ops.

9:25 AM - Crossing the creek was easy, though I didn't find the cairn marking the Cottonwood trail on the other side quite as easily as the previous week. It's a steep grunt up from the creek, but then the trail becomes a fun challenge of water bar step-ups and climbing. Cartwright Ranch - location, location, location!

9:35 AM - Junction of Cottonwood and Skunk Creek. Skunk Creek is generally too steep and full of baseballs and baby heads to ride many of the climbs, but the scenery is rugged, remote and totally worthy. Steep uphills lead to steep downhills, and things can become eye-popping and hilarious if you let gravity have her way with you. Keep off the front brakes and out of the deep ruts, and you could be just fine. Wow, this trail has a ton of elevation gain! Oh look, a tarantula tiptoeing down the trail.

10:22 AM - Junction with Quien Sabe. Hmm... Before long the machete came out of its sheath and extra time was spent in several places hacking cat claw and prickly pear from the wreckage that was perhaps a trail once. There appears to have been no work done and very, very little foot traffic on Quien Sabe since the Cave Creek Complex Fire in '05. Several skeletal trees crossed the trail. Some were cleared, but plenty of cat claw, prickly pear, tall grass, ruts, holes, dead-fall and general mayhem remain to entertain adventure seekers.

12:30 PM - Matty's Fork stopped me cold. What a stunning little gulch! What a welcome bit of shade! There was simply no resisting a quick explore down the creek bed on foot. Noshing and extra hydrating was done. Water was not flowing in the stream bed, but there may have been some under the sand. From Matty's, finding the remnants of Quien Sabe required patience, GPS and a huge cairn. Even then I repeatedly lost it in the high grass, or did I? Who knows? ;) Nearing the junction with Skull Mesa, there was a short section of trail utterly choked with Desert Holly (or something similar) that required more hacking to pass.

1:18 PM - Skull Mesa Trail east of the mesa is really sketchy, eroded, and a tricky thing to follow. A pair of red-tailed hawks circled and screamed above Quien Sabe Peak. As a boy growing up in the rain forest of the northwest, I dreamed of being a bald eagle. Now, in the desert southwest, the dream soars on tawny wings and super-heated updrafts. Uh-oh, all the route finding, daydreaming and playing with the machete were putting me way behind schedule. No mechanical issues with the bike though, so things were sure to get better. They didn't - at least not yet. Finding the cut where the trail drops off the shoulder of Quien Sabe Peak down to Cottonwood required wandering, backtracking, GPS and a few extra minutes. The downhill section of this trail is a nasty gutter. Being solo, I dared not attempt riding down the steep, loose-powder, jumbled garbage chute sections. Further down, off in the weeds (literally) I abused a prickly pear with my front tire and had to futz with the tire to get it to seal up. Yep, getting further behind schedule.

3:05 PM - Finally, I made it down off the mesas and into Cottonwood Creek. Yesssssss!!! Thank you, Jesus and praise to Allah! Just upstream from the trail junction was a shady spot where two arms of the drainage came together and the creek flowed strong. I dug a small depression, and the silt quickly cleared leaving a pool of clean, cool water. I treated a couple liters, and snacked on some Dukes sausages and an RX bar. And there was a great rejoicing. After that, riding in the creek and sometimes alongside it on the Maricopa Trail was much more enjoyable than the chossy and choked mess I'd been through to this point. In fact, it was downright pleasant.

4:15 PM - Junction with Bronco Trail. Climbs too steep to climb were attempted, and when that didn't work there was pushing the bike uphill. And there was *lots* of this lung-busting fun. Not to worry, the trek was nearing its end. Good thing, too - the shadows were growing taller than my, uh...metaphors. Or something.

4:42 PM - Tank in the East Fork of Bronco Creek. Really, seriously, there was just One. Climb. Left. A nice little seep partway up the trail darkened the soil and gave off that unmistakable water-on-the-desert smell of life and salvation. Then it was smooth sailing down the ridge to Bronco Trailhead.

5:10 PM - Bronco Trailhead. 21.6 miles all wrapped up in a tidy 8 hours and 10 minutes overall. Moving time was 5 hours 29 minutes, and the moving avg was just about 4 mph. That's a solid day's work, and great solo adventure.
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Dark soil but no flow from the spring at the trail. I did not explore up to the spring itself
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Dec 19 2017
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 Joined Apr 22 2012
 Fountain Hills,
Seven Springs Inner LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Dec 19 2017
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Hiking15.33 Miles 2,844 AEG
Hiking15.33 Miles   8 Hrs   58 Mns   1.92 mph
2,844 ft AEG   1 Hour    Break25 LBS Pack
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1st trip
I did the Seven Springs Inner Loop as a scouting trip for a point-to-point hike that I'll be doing later in December. I was not familiar with most of these trails, though after starting, I realized that I had been on Cave Creek #4 and Skunk Tank #248 before.

In any case, I decided to do it in a CCW direction, specifically:

Starting from Cave Creek TH, I went south on Cave Creek #4, south on Cottonwood #247, south and then west on Skunk Tank #246, south on Quien Sabe #250, east and then south on Skull Mesa #248, east and then north on Cottonwood #247, and, finally, north back to trailhead on Cave Creek #4.

The short section of Cave Creek #4 was straightforward, though it was cold starting off. I was feeling sluggish from not sleeping well the night before - one of our cats woke me up shortly after falling asleep. It was cold enough that I saw frost on the ground.

Cottonwood #247 crosses Cave Creek; fording the creek was easy, but I (initially) missed the spot where it headed uphill out of the creek. There was a sign and there were cairns; I just wasn't observant enough. #247 headed uphill for a while which warmed me up and got me to feeling better.

Soon thereafter, I was at the intersection with Skunk Tank #246. There was even more hiking uphill along this stretch, but it felt good because even more cobwebs were cleared away from my brain. It started looking familiar to me and I realized that I had hiked here many years ago.

Quien Sabe was scenic and easier to follow than I expected. I only referred to my GPS watch once to find my way back to the trail after a side path led me the wrong way.

Skull Mesa was probably the most fun due to the challenging route finding. I probably wouldn't have been able to figure it out without the GPS track. That said, there were cairns, but they weren't spaced closely enough to be able to walk from cairn to cairn. I think that cows might have grazed this area in the past, because there seemed to be an abundance of faint trails. I would follow one for twenty yards or so and then check my watch to see that I was off route. With the aid of my watch, I'd get myself back on route, sometimes finding a cairn along the way. I'd proceed a ways further along a likely looking path (or sometimes just wandering across the desert along no path), get off route, get back on route, etc, etc.

After a while of doing this, I found myself on a hillside wondering if the trail followed the contour that I was on - which sort of looked like a trail - or headed downhill or even back uphill. I consulted the map on my phone and found that it went downhill. When I got to the bottom, I located a well trodden trail and wondered how I ever missed it. That said, the trail wasn't visible from where I had been on the hill.

The Skull Mesa Trail started heading steeply downhill w/ switchbacks. Route finding got easier here, but the footing was less certain. I used both hiking poles to make it down some sections. The views were absolutely stunning here.

When I got to the Cottonwood Trail, I expected the going to be easy due to that section now being part of the Maricopa Trail. Shortly after leaving the intersection with the Skull Mesa Trail, the Cottonwood Trail entered Cottonwood Creek. The trail is routed to repeatedly cross the creek, going in a fairly direct fashion through islands of brush and trees. It's somewhat overgrown in this area, which means some amount of bushwhacking if you actually intend to follow the trail. I did two bushwhacking sessions between creek crossings before deciding to just walk in wide open dry creek bed. This was somewhat longer, but was a lot easier and quicker too. I suspect that it added somewhat to the overall distance that I hiked that day.

The Cottonwood Trail left Cottonwood Creek and went over a ridge. Soon thereafter, it crossed Bronco Creek and, shortly thereafter, I came to the intersection with the Bronco Trail. I continued on Cottonwood #247, walking in Bronco Creek for a while. The trail then headed up high the right (east) bank for a good while. I got slightly confused at the point where it turned to go up the bank because there was another path which continued onward for a short way lower along the bank. But, once I got up high on the bank, #247 was easy to follow.

It eventually headed back downhill and dumped me into Bronco Creek. Once in the creek, I checked the track on my GPS watch and saw that I (somehow) should have been high on the left (west) bank at this point. There didn't seem to be any obvious way to achieve this from where I was, however, since the bank was very steep and also densely vegetated. In retrospect, I should have probably backtracked south along the creek to figure out where the trail crossed over, but I didn't... Instead, I continued northward in Bronco Creek, keeping an eye on the diverging track that my watch showed. Shortly before reaching the Cartwright Ranch boundary, I noticed a faint trail heading up out of the creek; better still, there was a 247 trail marker! I headed up the faint trail and, after some amount of bushwhacking, encountered a much better trail, which I took to be the newer and rerouted 247 trail that I should have been on. This diversion undoubtedly added a bit more distance to my route.

At this point, it was fairly straightforward to get back to #4, and from there back to the trailhead. I did mess up slightly after getting back on #4, probably due to fatigue.

I really enjoyed this hike; winter seems like a good time to do it. I brought two 3L water reservoirs with me and drank about 4L of the 6L that I brought. The only water that I saw (that could be filtered) was in Cave Creek. There were a few spots in Cottonwood Creek which were damp. It may be that digging a short ways would have yielded water.
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Mar 21 2014
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 Joined Sep 09 2004
 Scottsdale, AZ
Seven Springs Inner LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Mar 21 2014
Sun_Ray
Hiking6.45 Miles 783 AEG
Hiking6.45 Miles   3 Hrs   15 Mns   1.98 mph
783 ft AEG
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Hiked from Cave Creek Seven Springs trail head to the location of the crested saguaro and back. With neighbors Dot/Harry, Merri/Carl, Ann/John, Judy and I. We also had dogs....Tucker, Rambo, Baxter, Java and Kai. First time hiking in this area for our friends.
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Jan 24 2014
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Seven Springs Inner LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Jan 24 2014
Sun_Ray
Hiking7.50 Miles 894 AEG
Hiking7.50 Miles   3 Hrs   38 Mns   2.06 mph
894 ft AEG
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With Judy and the boys. We started at the Seven Springs Trailhead about 9 AM. Glad to see no other cars in the lot as I wanted to have the dogs off lead so they could hit the water as we hiked along. These two Flat Coated Retrievers just LOVE this trail and the water that is along most of the trail. We turned around almost at the spot you need to cross the stream. Time includes all of our stops. Had the trail to ourselves today.
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Nov 18 2012
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 Joined Jul 28 2004
 Scottsdale, AZ
Seven Springs Inner LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Nov 18 2012
mazatzal
Hiking14.00 Miles 3,150 AEG
Hiking14.00 Miles   9 Hrs   50 Mns   1.65 mph
3,150 ft AEG   1 Hour   20 Mns Break
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Did the loop CCW. A few steep areas with ankle busting rocks and a couple of major washouts slowed us down :scared: There are some nice views: Mazzie, Catherine, Sheep, Saddle, 4pks etc. Temps and weather were perfect - we had a great day. Only saw a tiny tarantula, a couple of rabbits and no hikers - I guess they were all on TR 4.
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Nov 16 2012
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Seven Springs Inner LoopPhoenix, AZ
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Sun_Ray
Hiking6.90 Miles 954 AEG
Hiking6.90 Miles   3 Hrs   11 Mns   2.71 mph
954 ft AEG      38 Mns Break
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From Seven Springs Rd end. Out 3.5 miles and turned around. With Java, Kai, Judy, Shana, Dick, Kathy and Larry. The dogs loved all the water! Good time of year to go.

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Apr 07 2012
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 Scottsdale
Seven Springs Inner LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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Hiking13.40 Miles 2,500 AEG
Hiking13.40 Miles   5 Hrs   50 Mns   2.30 mph
2,500 ft AEG
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This was an awesome loop hike in an area I've never been to before. I was going solo on this jaunt which had "adventure" written all over it. I got to the campground at 7:00 in the morning on Sturday and encountered two problems right away. First, I was unaware of the daily use fee and there was no honor box. I wasn't about to turn around and drive back to Carefree for a permit so I parked my car and resigned myself to a ticket and fine. Second, it was bloody cold! 40 degrees and all I was dressed in was shorts with no fleece. I threw on my 2nd t-shirt reserved for the drive home which helped a bit and got underway. After about 45 minutes of climbing the chill was no longer an issue and I threw the 2nd t-shirt back into my pack.

A couple of noteworthy comments. This loop is best done counter clockwise as this gets the bulk of the climbing out of the way early while the temperatures are cool. More importantly, in several sections of this loop the trail is very faint at best and it is always easier to follow a trail gong downhill when one can survey the terrain ahead of yourself. Secondly, read the trail description before the hike, not after. Like the description and triplogs claim, the Quien Sabe and Skull Mesa trails on this loop are not well traveled and route finding comes into play. Not that the route finding is terribly difficult, it just makes for some head scratching in spots which can really slow you down. (I had a commitment later that afternoon and was somewhat on the clock.) I didn't see a soul on this entire trip which was a real change and added to the adventure. But adventure can be a double edged sword as I would have appreciated having a hiking partner to bounce ideas off of in a couple of sections of this loop. By the same token, bouncing ideas off of a partner can often turn into an argument. (smile) In that sketchy section of the Quien Sabe trail right after crossing over the saddle, the trail degenerates into nothing more than some calf hike trampled down grass over a very rocky surface. This makes for slow going as it would be easy to turn an ankle while heading down hill. This is also fantastic snake habitat which would have had me even more concerned were it not for the still chilly temperatures.

For the most part, I stayed dead nuts on the trail with the exception of a short section in the drainage heading up to the intersection with Skull Mesa Trail. As I look at the GPS route in the trail description, I can see where the trail cuts back at the bottom of the drainage whereas I just kept climbing. I quickly realized the error of my ways and immediately started climbing up to my right along the path of lease resistance thinking, "if I was a trail where would I be?" Sure enough, I eventually came across the faint trail after about 75 yards of light bushwhacking and continued up to the saddle and the Skull Mesa Trail intersection. This tail too was faint in spots. But again, as long as I stayed on the same bearing line I'd eventually come across the trail or discover that I was on the darn thing all along. I stopped for an early lunch and some preventive foot care at 10:30 at the final high point just before the descent into Cottonwood Creek. This descent was steep and scree filled and I was glad I was going down this trail rather than up. I have to think that this trail is easier to follow going down it as well.

The last 3 miles in Cottonwood Creek and Bronco Creek were easier and uneventful although the day had heated up quite a bit. The temperature was 80 degrees by the time I got back to the campground. Oh, I hiked the gated Forest Service Road in and took the little connector trail back to the campground on the way back out. (This gated Forest Service road is the one that leads over to the Ashdale Ranger Station.) This connector trail goes up to the corral just north of the campground and is clearly identified crossing this Forest Service road so you can't miss it. It is just a short wasys down to the creek where it intersects the CottonwoodTrail #247. All told, this loop came in at 13.4 miles in 5 hours and 50 minutes with 2,500 feet of AEG. As a final note, I didn't get a parking ticket which was good. On the way home I stopped by the ranger station to pay for my permit but it was closed for some reason. I mailed the fee this morning.
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 Phoenix, AZ
Seven Springs Inner LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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Hiking14.50 Miles 3,150 AEG
Hiking14.50 Miles   6 Hrs   15 Mns   2.32 mph
3,150 ft AEG
 
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I walked about 80% of this loop last year, once an out and back on the Cottonwood Creek Trail, and another time on the Skunk Tank Trail, but since I enjoyed the area so much I wanted to go back and do the exact loop. MEWhiteman's description is very good and I was glad to have his GPS track along particularly for the intermediate section I hadn't been on before.

I walked it counterclockwise and I'll give some impressions. At 8:30AM the sun still hadn't hit the Cave Creek Trailhead and the ground was frosty. Less than a mile in where Trail 247 crosses the creek the cairns have grown very large! No way to get lost...

The Skunk Tank Trail (#246) seems to be an old road/cow path and nicely traverses the open hills with views to the north. At 4.0m the Quien Sabe Trail (#250) branches to the left. This is an old shelf road and a little overgrown but easy to follow with good views to the west. At the highpoint (at about 5m in), just below Quien Sabe Peak, views open to the south.

This starts the part I hadn't been on before and route finding definitely got harder. I had been expecting a pretty straight shot down to the Cottonwood Creek Trail but in fact the trail winds all over the place and in many places is hard to find. Intersect the Skull Mesa Trail (#248) at 6.6m and finally reach the Cottonwood (#247) at about 8.6m. Generally Whiteman's GPS track was better than what I was seeing and I used it many times to fine tune where I was.

The Cottonwood Creek Trail mainly keeps near the (dry) creek bottoms as it passes through obvious cow country (I didn't see any cows!). At 10.0m you crest a ridge then start to turn north and into the next creek bottom. A few miles further #247 traverses out of the drainage to the left and completes the loop at the #246 intersection. Then it's ca. 1m back to the trailhead.

All-in-all an enjoyable loop that apparently doesn't get a lot of use. There were a lot more deer tracks than boot prints on #250 and #248 and a lot more horse tracks than boot prints on #247. I didn't see anyone all day until I got near the end and that was mainly trailriders who exited #247 for a horse trail a mile or so above that nice looking ranch near Seven Springs.
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Seven Springs Inner LoopPhoenix, AZ
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mazatzal
Hiking16.00 Miles 3,350 AEG
Hiking16.00 Miles   7 Hrs      2.29 mph
3,350 ft AEG
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Did this loop in the opposite direction to the hike description. Also added a couple of miles off trail into a canyon.
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Jan 08 2011
Hansenaz
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Quien Sabe Peak, AZ 
Quien Sabe Peak, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jan 08 2011
Hansenaz
Hiking14.90 Miles
Hiking14.90 Miles   7 Hrs   20 Mns   2.03 mph
 
1st trip
I took my first hike in the Seven Springs / Spur Cross area a few weeks ago. I didn't plan well and got lost but in the process I spent some time staring at the hills trying to figure out where I was. I later figured out that the most impressive peak I was looking at was called Quien Sabe Peak, the highest one in the "park". I was looking at the south side of the peak from the Cottonwood Trail.

I returned to Cave Creek Trailhead (the northern access point) armed with some preloaded GPS tracks (thanks MEWhitman and nonot). I walked the Cave Creek/Skunk Tank Loop clockwise up to it's high point where the Quien Sabe Trail branches off to the south. It was pleasant walking through hilly scrub land on this old cattle trail. The Quien Sabe Trail is more overgrown but it looks like an old shelf road along the hillside so it's not hard to follow. Quien Sabe Peak is to the east (left) as you travel the Quien Sabe Trail and I started to bushwack up the hill near the apex where it crests the edge overlooking the valley to the south. Particularly after scouting around on the way down, I'm sure this is the easiest way to go.

The off-trail walking is not steep but there are a lot of small rocks under the knee high grass - this is also reported in the triplogs for nearby Skull Mesa. The summit area is flat and the highest point is at the southern edge....the actual summit doesn't come into view until until you reach the edge - it is a nub displaced another hundred yards to the east. From car to summit (6.2mi) took about 2.7 hrs with only about half hour off trail.

There was very little evidence that people visit the top often but there were a lot of deer tracks. A summit cairn was present but I couldn't find a register or USGS marker. A modern petroglyph on a summit rock said 1994.

I thought I would descend a different way. But the mountain is much steeper to the south and it would be a pretty long bushwack down to the Cottonwood Trail. I started off toward the west but common sense kept me contouring more to the north and in the end I hit the Quien Sabe Trail about where I had left it.

I retraced my steps on the Quien Sabe Trail but then went west on the Skunk Tank and Cave Creek Trails to complete a nice loop back to the car. A good variant would be to go the other way on the Quien Sabe Trail and take the Cottonwood Trail back to the trailhead or even carry on to Spur Cross.
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Nov 13 2010
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Hansenaz
Hiking12.00 Miles
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This is what happens when 1. At 9AM Sat you decide to go hiking. 2. You notice you have a hiking book you haven't looked at before and select a hike in an area you've never been to before. 3. Get in the car at 9:15 and go.

My intention was to walk the Skunk Tank Loop. But I was unfamiliar with the area and made one inadvertent error (turned left at the 247/246 junction instead of right)....the result was a hike a little closer to this one. I enjoyed hiking clockwise on the Cottonwood Trail (#247) and ~2.5hrs in hit a signed intersection. 247 continued straight while 246, 248, and 250 apparently branched right up the hill. Thinking I was on the Cave Creek-Skunk Tank Loop I was thoroughly confused. I didn't have enough information with me to resolve the confusion and instead wasted about an hour and a half walking back and forth on the two branches before becoming firmly convinced neither was the planned route back. It was already getting late so I retraced my steps back to the Cave Creek Trailhead.

It's now clear (after some HAZ-fueled forensic analysis) that I was on the wrong trail and that continuing the loop would have been farther than planned. If I would have continued up the hill on the faint trail I would have been on my way to completing this Seven Springs Inner Loop. Next time I'll load up my GPS (as I now see many HAZ folks recommend for this area).
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Hiking10.00 Miles 3,150 AEG
Hiking10.00 Miles
3,150 ft AEG
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Seven Springs Inner LoopPhoenix, AZ
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AZWanderingBear
Hiking14.00 Miles 3,150 AEG
Hiking14.00 Miles
3,150 ft AEG
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Got a late start with a friend on this one. Wasn't planning on doing the entire loop, just out a ways to grab a geocache or two. He thought finishing the loop would be quicker than doubling back. He was wrong, but I sure enjoyed the hike.
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mazatzal
Hiking14.00 Miles 3,150 AEG
Hiking14.00 Miles   7 Hrs      2.00 mph
3,150 ft AEG
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Did this loop in the opposite direction to the hike description. During this loop we saw two equestrians on the extension to the old road that is now Bronco Trail #245. That new trail must have been built late 2001 / early 2002.
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average hiking speed 2.19 mph

WARNING! Hiking and outdoor related sports can be dangerous. Be responsible and prepare for the trip. Study the area you are entering and plan accordingly. Dress for the current and unexpected weather changes. Take plenty of water. Never go alone. Make an itinerary with your plan(s), route(s), destination(s) and expected return time. Give your itinerary to trusted family and/or friends.

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