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Oct 22 2017
SkyIslander18
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Swift Trail (State Hwy 366)Tucson, AZ
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My final trip up to the top of Graham to survey the damage left from the Frye Fire before the November 15th winter closure. I met up with Preston and together we headed up the mountain as we have done so many times before. Plan was to survey as many sites as we could and also get in a hike at the end of the Swift Trail. We drove the entire road to it's end and this is what we saw & know .....

We first stopped on the way up for a quick trek up "secret canyon" for some fall colors, looked good and is only gonna get better. A return trip up will be made soon.
Second stop up was made at Ladybug Saddle to show Preston where & how I dislocated my shoulder last week, I was in need of some sympathy.
Then around to the backside/top and into the burn -

Snow Flat - Road down to the CG hit with med intensity burn, campground unaffected and beautiful.
Treasure Park CG - Road down med burn, meadow and CG mostly unaffected and beautiful, the "back" CG hit hard and now gated with "forest closed" sign.
Cunningham CG - Intact, but high burn all around CG. The trail-head for Grant Creek & Moonshine has "closed forest" sign. We could see golden aspens down in Moonshine and a later overlook view showed that lower Grant Creek from Ft Grant TH was unaffected, the upper trail has burned. At Cunningham we talked with a high up Forest Service employee who gave up permission to hike a bit into Ash Creek for a look a little further up the road.
Soldier Creek CG - One of my favorites and I was very happy to see an intact CG with minimal burn around it. The Grant Goudy Ridge (and Ice Caves) TH is open with the standard "caution burn area" sign.
Deadman-Highline Trail - The feel good story of the day! We drove down Bible Camp road to see if the trail-head sign that Preston made and posted back in 2010 made it through the fire. We hiked a bit up the trail through a hard hit area to find burn all-around the perfectly intact sign! It damn near brought a manly tear to my eye to see Preston's joy that it made it through -
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Columbine Corrals CG - From the happiest part of the day to the saddest. We parked at Columbine visitor center and hiked in across the road to the corrals. This whole area is closed including Webb Peak & Ash Creek due to high intensity burn. As stated earlier we had permission to hike a bit in. We took the trail just to where the switchbacks start down and that's about as far as you can go. Of all my trips up since the re-opening, this one punched me in the chest the hardest. I just could not believe I was looking down Ash Creek Canyon ..... black sticks as far as I could see down and on both sides of the canyon. We were told by Forest Service earlier at Cunningham that a decision was made to close and not work on Ash Creek & Frye Mesa Trail (where the fire started) for at least the next 3 years. Webb Peak is also black sticks, but was told that a loop may be re-opened next year.
Riggs Flat Lake - After Ash Creek we continued down the road through much more burn until finally reaching Riggs where the west end of the fire came to an end. We drove down to the lake that does have some minimal burn down, then through the campgrounds & ended with a nice hike around the lake on the Lakeshore Trail. Riggs Lake area for the most part was unaffected by the fire. Merrill Peak was hit on top and I'm sure the backside was too. There is a "burn" sign posted for the Jesus Babcock Trail behind the campground.
CP Flat - Finally on to the end of the road to hike CP Flat. A very needed break from fire damage with an autumn walk through Letty's Grove. I knew we were late for the golden aspen leaves up high, but just as beautiful hiking on the golden leaf road!
Blair Canyon - On the drive back out we stopped at Chesley Flat to see how Blair Canyon fared and as expected ..... not well. High burn and I'm sure Chesley Flat to Webb Peak looks the same.
Quick last stop at the Shake Trail to show Preston the red slurry covered trees at the start of the trail, this entire trail survived and is one of the very few left unaffected.

Our trip ended on the straightaway where Preston dropped me off at my truck, we said our good-bye's & I drove home still processing what I saw on top.

I have now seen the entire top of Graham and have a good understanding to the condition of the majority of the forest & trails. As stated in other logs - I am still shook, bitter & angry over this fire. The damage is much worse then I ever expected. There is still a lot of green up there and I have found a few places that still holds some un-burned beauty that will keep me looking for more. I have spent my entire life going up that mountain and this will take many years to come to peace with ..... I just hope someday I will get there.
I understand that most don't want to read about others personal hardships as I honestly don't like reading them myself. What has happened has happened and I cannot change it only move on - This will be my last log about the Frye Fire of 2017!

To close I just want to thank Preston for taking me up the mountain to view the destruction with me. Seeing it with a good friend made it more bearable. There will be many more great trips up & around Ole' Graham my friend!!!
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Oct 22 2017
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Met up with Chad bright and early after another all-nighter working at the telescope on Mount Graham, and we started up the Swift Trail. The focus of the day was to tour the Pinalenos and see first hand the effects of the Frye Fire of June 2017. Our first stop of the day was at a small canyon that I had passed so many times without ever stopping to explore it. This little hidden gem was loaded with changing maples and flowing water.

As we passed the top end of the Shake Trail, we entered into the main burn area of the Frye Fire. Pitchfork Canyon looked like it had been skewered by the Devil’s flaming pitchfork. A mountain side of black sticks where a lush stand of mature firs had once provided dense shade. The Arrow Tree still stood.

Stop 2 was at Snow Flat. Most of this area had fared well, with the exception being the back road to Treasure Park (Treasure Park via Snow Flat hike is charcoal city). Hospital Flat had some damage but is still beautiful, I think.

Stop 3 was Grant Hill Trailhead. Grant Hill was almost entirely consumed in a crown fire. Hopefully aspens will thrive here in the coming decades, but it looks pretty bad right now, and the trail loops on it are closed for the foreseeable future. We talked with the Squirrel Girl here, and heard the latest Red Squirrel census, which was pretty grim (35 found during the post-fire count, I heard).

The Grant Creek area didn’t look too bad, with only moderate fire damage, as we approached Stop 4: Cunningham Campground, next to the western trailhead of the Cunningham Loop. We talked with some
Forest Service employees briefly, and checked out the the Grant Creek Trailhead before continuing on. The Moonshine Creek area fared well, with fall aspens and ferns adding some color.

The Fort Grant overlook revealed Grant Creek Canyon to have a mosaic burn pattern, with plenty of green forest left intact.

Approaching Columbine through the singed spruce-fir, we turned down Bible Camp Road toward the Deadman-Highline Trailhead. Bible Camp Road had seen mosaic burn, and while there was heavy damage in places, there were some patches of surviving spruce-fir. I knew that much of Deadman had been thoroughly torched, but I had hope that my trail sign might have survived. As we rounded the first corner of Deadman, there was the trail sign I had made in 2010, perfectly undamaged among burned logs. I couldn’t believe it, and it was one of the few sights that day that made me smile. I unbolted my soot-covered creation to bring it home, as Deadman-Highline, my favorite Pinaleno trail, will probably not ever reopen.

The next stop was one Chad and I were both apprehensive over: Columbine Corral/Ash Creek Trailhead. We had heard that Ash Creek and Webb Peak were severely burned and a sea of black sticks. Sadly, that was true. The jewel of the Pinalenos was completely devoid of green, save for some small aspen and raspberry sprouts in places. Heartbreaking. On to the next spot...

Soldier Creek Campground looked great, just like old times.

As we drove toward Chesley Flat across the black skeleton slopes of Webb Peak, we wondered if any of the top was untouched by this mega-fire. Fire damage beyond Chesley Flat was less severe, and finally ceased at the turnoff for Riggs Lake. There is some ground fire evidence on the east side of Riggs, but very minor. We walked around the lake on the Lakeshore Trail, finally able to see a healthy, familiar favorite.

We continued down the last mile plus of the Swift Trail through the unburned forests of old, to the Clark Peak Trailhead, where we started the CP Flat Loop hike. The west end of the Pinalenos was deserted and we enjoyed a great hike through the aspens and mixed conifer woodland.
The rugged cliffs of Grandview Peak above Hell’s Hole looked amazing with a small strip of golden aspens clinging precariously.

Making our way home, I pulled over at Chesley Flat to check out the upper end of the Blair Canyon Trail and the old “spooky woods” area. This area was on the edge of the Webb Peak inferno and sustained heavy but not total damage. Still some survivor trees, including the tumor tree, and the ancient Blair Canyon Trail sign.

We continued back down the mountain, discussing our findings and thoughts on the matter, and made one final stop at the upper Shake Trailhead to see trees caked in red retardant from the fire.

Back on the straightaway at the base of the Pinalenos, Chad headed for home, and I grabbed a sandwich at Mount Graham Market for dinner on the road to home.

A few observations, which are totally my opinion...
Most of the burn area, which includes the majority of the top of the Pinalenos, appeared to me to have about 50% tree mortality. Of that 50%, a large portion of these trees were covered in dead needles with no sign of green (heat scorched trees, rather than burn, maybe?). The most severe burn areas appeared to be Pitchfork Canyon, Grant Hill, Ash Creek, and Webb Peak. The least severe/most green areas appeared to be Snow Flat, the area north of Hospital Flat, and Grant Creek watershed. The top of Graham Ridge between Shannon Campground and the summit of Mount Graham was severely burned, with almost total tree mortality. Severe erosion scarred most of the drainages and creeks on top. I won’t discuss my personal feelings here, other than to say the burn was worse than I had feared. I still love the Pinalenos, and always will, but they sure do look rough right now. I might post a photo set.

Chad, thanks for another great adventure! Much better to see sights like this with a like-minded friend.
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](*,) After an extensive search of vehicles, camping gear & home, it was determined that an item was left somewhere in the middle of the Chesley Flat Trail from our hike one week earlier ](*,)

We headed back up the mountain this morning to search by re-hiking the route starting with the Webb Peak Trail :next: Chesley Flat Trail :next: Swift Trail :next: Grant Goudy Ridge :next: Ice Caves :next: Swift Trail.
We were unsuccessful in finding the item ..... :pk:
Oh well, what we did find was a fire lookout tower, meadows full of wildflowers, raspberries, cool cave to explore, a heavy flowing waterfall, hawks & vultures in the sky, white-tail doe & 4 Abert's squirrels on the ground and a whole lot of quiet, never saw another person or vehicle on the upper mountain all day!

Learned 2 things today -
#1 loosing stuff sucks!
#2 Hiking upper Graham in August ..... Primo!
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second day in the pinalenos
up at first light, took our time for coffee and breakfast
decided to move camp to soldier creek
john had seen randy's [ photoset ] and thought it looked pretty nice
stopped at columbine in hopes of finding a map, but the visitor center wasn't open yet
threw up a tent at soldier creek campground, then went back to the ash creek trailhead for a hike
went up to webb peak first and were able to go up in the unoccupied/abandoned tower
very hazy sunday
back down to take the trail over to ash creek
rather than head right back to the trailhead, we went further along ash creek trail to the falls overlook
thought about going down to the bottom of the falls, but just made the little bypass loop and returned
nice to hike along flowing water
saw lots of sawmill remnants
ash creek trail goes through a cool slickrock area
the falls were impressive, and it would fun to get closer
after the hike, went back to columbine for a few minutes
lunch at camp, then i wanted to see riggs lake
wasn't really impressed - too crowded
walked around the lake just because while john took a snooze
back at camp, we had heard about a cave just off the grant goudy ridge trail, so we hiked out to a couple of overlooks, then started looking for the cave on the way back
found a smaller cave, and went in a few feet, until bats started flying at my flashlight
decided that wasn't it, and kept looking until we found it just to the east of and below the trail
climbed down about 20-25 feet, until going further looked more committing than we were up for
very cool air coming from it, and apparently one can go down 80 feet or more
mileage includes the riggs lake stroll and the cave search
my gps track is just for the webb peak ash creek hike
i have a track for the cave location, if anyone is interested
chatted with some of our neighbors, had dinner and another fire
breezier and cooler sunday night
soldier creek is a great place to camp
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Day two in the Pinalenos. Lots of variety in views and terrain. Great hiking. See Kelly's triplog for details. :)
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Joined some friends to escape the heat up in the Pinaleno Mountains for a couple days. I was the first to arrive Sunday morning, reaching Columbine about 1030. Drove on to Riggs Lake in a search for FOTG (had a tip he might be there) that came up empty. Then headed back to Soldier Creek CG and waited for the others to arrive. After getting set up, we did a late afternoon hike to a scenic viewpoint not too far from camp.
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jj said something to the effect last week, "you always wear that white high school shirt". I glanced over and mentioned, "you always wear that same soccer shirt with the seventies style stripes".

By chance? Both in bright new happy shirts we headed to the Grant Creek trailhead. Passing through Fort Grant ( prison, if you are not familiar ) we missed a turn. Spotted a guy that appeared eager to help, so we asked for directions. I think Mr Personality played a guard in Cool Hand Luke. His directions were spot on questionable. With a 50/50 chance we took the wrong option and drove by him a second time... with twice the pride.

10% chance of rain jumped to 50% unexpectedly overnight. Everything around us came up 70% so we stuck to the plan. From a makeshift parking space near the #310, we headed up towards #305, which is among my all time favorites. Not only a great trail, a trail I've shared with great friends over the years. Clear and present mosquitos annoyed a bit but never drew first blood.

jj went down in history transferring a track between two fenix watches out of a controlled lab environment via bluetooth. It only took 40 minutes and five or six tries...lol

#305 has not changed over the eight years I've hiked it a few times. A good trail with very minor brush nuisance along the way and easy to follow. Per usual we used Preston's short cut across Moonshine Creek, which is a tiny off trail segment to save a little road walk. We were soaked in sweat by the time we reached the Swift Hwy ( actually, more like thirty minutes into the hike ). The stroll along the tree lined hwy at 70 degrees was relaxing therapy. It was cool to see a couple families checking out the Post Creek waterfalls & Soldier Campgrounds.

Storms looked mean and approaching quick. jj flipped an amex card to decide on cutting Ash Creek waterfall overlook out of our loop. My hands were getting cold so I was glad it landed on "forget it" tails.

#310 offers great views. It didn't seem as overgrown as memory served. Just a little grassy in areas. No screams in the shower and a quick shin check reveals no abuse. Next time I think it would be ideal to ascend this and enjoy the pine stroll down #305.

Carried 4 quarts, consumed 1.5. Shockingly still a bit frozen 17 hours after packing in the morning too.
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western wallflowers, yellow droopy asterthingys up top, a red species new to me that I'll have to look at the photos to determine
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Choices, choices, choices! Our plan for a mid week hike included the following options:

1. Cactus to clouds in Palm Springs
2. Shiva Temple at the Grand Canyon North Rim with Claude Birdseye added on
3. Grant Creek, Ash Creek, Goudy Ridge Loop in the Pinaleno Mountains

A bridge washout between here and California and a 14 hour round trip drive to the Grand Canyon north rim had us heading towards Fort Grant.

I have never done Grant Creek nor the Goudy Ridge Trails so this was a real treat. Heading up Grant Creek Trail was the best part of this hike for me. Super lush and water flowing next to the trail the whole way up.

Threats of rain and dark skies above had us questioning if the Ash Creek add on was a good idea? I said let's flip on it however neither of us had a coin. My American Express Card with it's head on the front stood in for George and the toss came up tails. This meant bypass Ash Creek this time. Both of us have been there prior so that made this pill a little easier to swallow.

The trek down the Goudy Trail is enjoyable and views open up along the way. Fort Grant off in the distance gets closer and closer as you descend. Along our way down the skies started to clear up and we only received a small sprinkle just prior to the finish line.

After the hike we headed south on Fort Grant Road to Willcox for a last meal at good ol' Salsa Fiesta. They are closing for good in three days after a run of over 17 years. I wish Jennifer and the Salsa Fiesta team much success in their future endeavors.
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With my overnight shift at the MGIO over, the crew dropped me off at my truck at Moonshine at dawn. My body craved sleep, my mind craved adventure. Sleep won. I set up my tent at the Deadman-Highline trailhead and caught a few brief hours of sleep.

I awoke later that morning, ate some cereal out of half of a Gatorade bottle like a hobo, and then walked up the Deadman-Highline trail a short distance to reinstall my freshly painted trail sign that I had made years ago. Years of weathering had left their mark by the time I had taken it down last October.

With very little time to explore or hike, I settled on a short excursion down the Grant-Goudy Ridge Trail. I hiked down the trail to the edge of the mountain, reveling in Pinaleno glory and reflecting fondly on my Safford years.

I came across the highest elevation cactus I have ever seen, growing at 9200'. Made a side trip to the fault line abyss before heading back down the mountain to catch the Tucson folk festival. An exhausting but amazing weekend.
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I don't know why it took me over a year to get back to Mount Graham because I really like this area. I did a Grant Creek Goudy Ridge loop today with side trips down Moonshine Creek and up Webb Peak.

I was passed going up Grant Creek Trail by three trail runners :o A good portion of Moonshine is torn up from a tree trimming project, however, I was able to get to the falls area and found it to be a nice little side trip. I saw a few cars during the road walk from Grant to Goudy, but no other hikers or runners the rest of the day. With Graham being illegal I settled for Webb. It was nice to hit 10,000 feet after starting the day at 5400. I considered "Chestley" Flats on my way down from Webb, but had to keep Cup and mind and just decided to head for the Xterra.

The upper sections of Goudy Ridge Trail are nice, with the gigantic pines and old forest feel, but I think the trail loses its redeeming qualities the lower you go. It is a relentless downhill and the trail is in disrepair in spots, however, it gets you down the mountain pretty quick, with some pretty good views.

Another great trip to Graham. I hope to make it back soon; its a great area with several more trails I want to hike. I just wish it was not so far away.
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Grant Goudy Ridge Trail # 310
Our loop started on #310 which would be the only new territory for myself. I figured this one gets overlooked as most driving the distance are probably looking for pine covered trails up top in the cool temps. It is a little overgrown but not much. It seems well used and well designed. The best part being the views. I was at the back of the pack all the way down taking photos.

Grant Creek Trail #305
5 years ago on a hike with Preston and Nick we saw a bear on a one-way shuttle down. Today with Denny and Bruce going up we didn't get so "lucky". Likely due to wildlife's natural instinct to ascend when encountered. Nevertheless an excellent trail segment in my opinion. You have life zones, canyon shade at the bottom when it's most needed and distant views in the upper end.

Ash Creek Trail #307
This one was lightly penciled in based on time and energy reserves. It is typically deemed one of the favorites. Preston and I enjoyed this in prime six years ago with warm light on a brisk Autumn morning. So for myself this was a let down in hazy afternoon shadows.

Ash Creek Trail Bypass #307A
Stepping off the Ash Creek Waterfall perch I experienced something I haven't felt for some time. Yep you guessed it, the single smacking splat of a heavy rain drop. Anyone that's been around knows the difference between a teasing rain drop and a warning rain drop. This one meant business.

It did offer a small time frame to get the camera(only concern) packed away and head out but not much. My pack soaks through pretty quick so time was of the essence. I decided to forgo the creek route as I didn't want to be anywhere near slippery rock that humbled me back in 2006. Bypass was the ticket. I did what I could. After a mile and a half I decided it was best to hunker down under a tree. There must have been an angel nearby as the rain let up after a short break. Starring at my feet I got off track and found myself in unfamiliar territory. I guess it was the Bible Camp. In the end it all worked out.

Denny Andretti guided the flying focus down the mountain and home safely!
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Bruce had told me not to contact him anymore after we finished the AZT.I was :o when I got the invite for this one. :PMIC: Joe said doing this loop in this derection would give us shade at the right time. :worthy: Nice hike.Great views,healthy looking forest,creek(with trout),cool rock formations,and a nice tree canopy on the climb out.The view from our lunch spot was top notch.This loop finished back at the car about 15 miles later.We grabbed some more water and were off to do our second hike down Ash Creek.The boys picked another dandy.This area is pretty lush and I always enjoy hiking by a creek.We saw stuff from an old sawmill, a small waterfall,some resident lizards,and what looked like a long waterslide.The turn around point was at a viewpoint of a bigger waterfall :GB: .very cool.There was a chance of rain but...AhOh.It started right at our turn around point.It turns out the horse bypass is a good way to go to avoid the slick rocke when there wet.Plus we got to see more trail.Our (I got your back)attitude went to (every man for himself)when the rain,thunder and lighting hit. :scared: :oops: We all made it out and put whatever dry clothes we had on and headed down the mountain.We did see two Deer and two Turkey on this trip.We hit up Arby's for a couple Arby Q's and sang :whistle: all the way home!Thanks boys,for another great trip! :y:
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Jun 16 2012
The_Eagle
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 Far NE Phoenix,
Goudy - Grant Creek - Ash Waterfall Loop, AZ 
Goudy - Grant Creek - Ash Waterfall Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jun 16 2012
The_Eagle
Hiking20.88 Miles 5,953 AEG
Hiking20.88 Miles   10 Hrs   49 Mns   2.37 mph
5,953 ft AEG   2 Hrs    Break14 LBS Pack
 
1st trip
My first time down in this area of Arizona. I sure wish I lived closer to the Pinaleno's.
Out the door at 2am and in Thatcher, just outside of Saford at 5:30. I looked up at Mt. Graham in disbelief that it would take us another hour and a half to get to our TH up there....but it did.

Temps were perfect most of the way around on this day.

The trip down Grant Goudy Ridge #310, was much nicer than expected being under the cover of trees for a large portion. The Pinalino's have a different look than the other Sky Islands I've been to. I can't quite put my finger on why that is? The Views were exceptional!

The Grant Goudy Ridge Trail dead ends on the south end, at Grant Creek #305. This is where we stated the climb back up the 4,000' we'd just lost. The track follows Grant Creek and then Post Creek until it turns to the East to make the final climb to the rim. Moonshine Creek is just a bit to the north, but is never in view. We had a 2.5 mile road walk back to the car to restock for our next segment. I confirmed afterwards that there is another set of falls (Grant Falls) that we missed.

15+ miles down, it was time for the hike to Ash Creek Falls. Lush green all the way down, cool rock formations, remnants of the Mt. Graham Mill Site, and following Ash Creek all the way! The Falls were really cool and I wish we could have spent more time checking them out.

Mother Nature would not let that happen. A couple of big drops of rain hit... Joe's off like a Roadrunner. A crackle of thunder and lightning in my line of site past Denny.... It's time for Denny and myself to pack up and Git. That's about the time that the sky opened up. The Angles started Bowling and the gods threw there lit spears in the skys above. It poured/rained all the way back to the car. I was so glad for the dry set of clothes waiting for me.

A Video at Ash Creek Falls
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF_jM88y-MU&feature=channel&list=UL

A Super big thanks to Denny for Driving!
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Ash Creek Falls
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Plenty of water from the top to the falls

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Water available in many spots
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May 25 2012
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 Joined Aug 19 2011
 Scottsdale, AZ
Grand View PeakTucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
Hiking avatar May 25 2012
outdoor_lover
Hiking2.20 Miles 427 AEG
Hiking2.20 Miles
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Day 2 of my weekend in the Pinalenos. Chad and I started out Hiking to Grand View Peak. We had originally tried to do this Hike yesterday, but had trouble finding the Trail where it started off the old Logging Road.

Today, Chad had a few ideas, so we went back and found the Trail. It is faint and there are only a couple of Cairns to guide you and there is alot of debris from this past winter, but nothing big. We climbed up a couple of areas to see some views and then hit Grand View Peak. There were some nice views to the South, West and East, but we stayed only long enough to get a few pictures, as the Wind was howling today and it was threatening to blow us right off the top... : rambo : After scrambling down that Peak, we Hiked across a nice little saddle and hit another high spot briefly, enjoying the views to the North and West.

The Wind became a big determining factor on what we did the rest of the day. It was sustained at about 40 MPH with 50-60 MPH gusts. I actually wore a hat hiking today, the first time ever.... :o

We got back to the car, and Chad directed me to the Soldier Creek Campground. I think this is one of my favorite Campgrounds. We took the Grant Creek Trail for a ways and Chad showed me some Ice Caves. You can only enter one of the ones we saw, the rest were going to require Technical and Safety Gear to drop into. The one we went into was small and didn't have any Ice, but we ran into one that we didn't enter, that most likely did, judging from the very cold draft flowing from the hole. We hit one more, but again, was not doable without gear. I managed to go in about 2 steps on a ledge and get a couple of pics of the inside room, but it was quite a drop from the ledge and even I wasn't going to risk that...I may be adventurous, but when it comes to Caves and Mines, I don't take any chances at all....

Hiked back to the vehicle and continued with our day. Two nice, quick little Hikes accomplished. :)
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Apr 24 2011
PrestonSands
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 Oro Valley, AZ
Grant Goudy Ridge Trail #310Tucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
Hiking avatar Apr 24 2011
PrestonSands
Hiking4.00 Miles 1,111 AEG
Hiking4.00 Miles   1 Hour   26 Mns   2.79 mph
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Left my house this afternoon bound for Big Creek, only to discover the Swift Trail closed due to a fire in the Noon Creek area. Yikes! So I decided to drive around to Fort Grant and hit up the bottom end of the Grant Creek Trail. FR 157 was in great shape all the way to the 5500 foot level where I parked, but I had to pull over to let about a dozen trucks/sand rails, etc by along the way (huh?). I had to stay in cell range, so I hiked up Grant Creek Trail until I lost signal, then turned around. Turned onto the Grant-Goudy Ridge Trail on the way back, and hiked up it, turning around at dusk at the 6300 foot contour. Grant Goudy is in great shape and easy to follow, and was recently reworked by the Forest Service, I hear.
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