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Nov 10 2018
chumley
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46 male
 Joined Sep 18 2002
 Tempe, AZ
Galiuro Fallin', AZ 
Galiuro Fallin', AZ
 
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chumley
Hiking14.58 Miles 3,972 AEG
Hiking14.58 Miles   6 Hrs   55 Mns   2.26 mph
3,972 ft AEG      28 Mns Break
 
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Fun day hike to Holdout Spring from High Creek. It's color time, and we weren't disappointed. It looked as if a recent high-wind event had stripped some of the early turners, but there was still plenty to be had. Rattlesnake canyon is really a winner. I'd love to camp near the spring sometime. In fact, I need to get back and cover some more ground in this wilderness. So much great terrain and fantastic views.

We were a group of 5 and a dog so we didn't see any wildlife today, but it's tough to walk 10 feet without seeing a huge bear poop. Neighbors back at camp said there had been a bear a couple hundred yards away, but none of us saw it. Oh well.
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Autumn Foliage Observation Moderate
Most oaks were done, maples maybe a week past prime with a lot on the ground due to recent wind.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Holdout Spring Dripping Dripping
Plenty of water in the main spring box and in the cave spring box, but little to no noticeable "flow"
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 Tucson, AZ
Galiuro Fallin', AZ 
Galiuro Fallin', AZ
 
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GrottoGirl
Hiking14.58 Miles 3,972 AEG
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3,972 ft AEG      28 Mns Break
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Nice day of looking at leaves!
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Nov 11 2017
Pivo
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 Joined Mar 01 2009
 Tucson, AZ
East Divide Trail #287 - GaliuroTucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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Pivo
Hiking9.06 Miles 2,049 AEG
Hiking9.06 Miles   4 Hrs   45 Mns   2.20 mph
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Had a late start, and went back to camp to get my headset to listen to my audio book. Joseph was running a little slow, and I shouldn't have pushed him to hike 3 days in a row. So we only went up to the saddle with Bob and Duane before returning.
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 Tucson, AZ
Holdout Spring and Sunset Peak, AZ 
Holdout Spring and Sunset Peak, AZ
 
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GrottoGirl
Backpack19.25 Miles 5,298 AEG
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Great trip with friends. I had forgotten that there was any color on the hike up High Creek so we had several surprises.

Along the way, I found a great dog bowl that I can’t wait to give My Joseph!

We got to the junction and saw the gift that Chumley left us. I didn’t know if he was still hiking so we reconfigured it to be something different.

From there we headed over to Sunset peak. I hadn’t been in a while but I had my track log so up we went. I was surprised that no one had signed in the log in a couple of years. This great peak with awesome views gets very little traffic. I suspect many people also don’t get to the high point since there are two summits.

Anyway, my description of the hike down into Rattlesnake canyon from last trip describes the trail really well. I do think that it is a bit more overgrown since then.

Once we saw Rattlesnake Canyon from the Ridge we could see the jackpot for fall colors! I was excited so I didn’t stop until I got to the colors. The maples didn’t disappoint!

We spent the night near Holdout Spring. I was disappointed that the previous group didn’t practice leave no trace. In the woods beyond the camp area was spots of dirty toilet paper. Boo!

We had a leisurely time in camp in the morning and headed out close to 10 AM. It was fun to go back through the color and enjoy it again.
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The best is in Rattlesnake canyon.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Holdout Spring Quart per minute Quart per minute
Hard to say how much is coming out but the main spring box was full with nice, clean water!
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Nov 11 2017
chumley
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 Joined Sep 18 2002
 Tempe, AZ
Bassett PeakTucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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chumley
Hiking12.65 Miles 3,410 AEG
Hiking12.65 Miles   7 Hrs   12 Mns   2.03 mph
3,410 ft AEG      58 Mns Break
 
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Bassett Peak is a top-10 Arizona hike anytime. But during fall, it might be second to none.

Obviously I'm not the only one who thinks so ... there were several meetup groups and a huge group of screaming kids. Somehow however, we had a very quiet hike with few interactions with other hikers.

A lot of HAZ folks were out there this weekend, besides those on this hike it was also nice to see rwstorm, outdoorlover, pivo, volcanoclmbr, whereveriroam, wyle coyote, jonnybackpack, redroxx44, ohiobike, moondancer627, and a couple of others too!

Joe and JJ nearly broke me on the way up, but I should have known that ahead of time. I went to the plane crash site on the way down as I hadn't been there before. It's interesting, but the scree chute to get down to it is a pain.

It was actually a bit warm on the exposed upper slopes and I was happy to reach the drainage with the vibrant colors and shade all the way back to camp.

On the drive home, I made it to Tempe in 2 hours and 55 minutes via I-10. On my way there I drove through Globe and the spectacularly scenic Aravaipa-Klondyke Road and it took 3:25. I still like that route better, especially if there is the potential for any traffic on I-10 in Tucson or the Phoenix area.

This hike was the cherry on a great weekend all around!
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It was a little early in the lower half, but absolutely rocking in the mile below the spring.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Upper Ash Spring Dripping Dripping
Just a couple of shallow pools. I saw a spot along the trail where water was running lightly from the pipe.
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BiFrost
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 Joined Nov 20 2012
 Phoenix, AZ
Bassett PeakTucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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BiFrost
Hiking12.21 Miles 3,230 AEG
Hiking12.21 Miles   7 Hrs   12 Mns   1.96 mph
3,230 ft AEG      58 Mns Break
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Started the hike with Joe and JJ but soon lost contact with them as they motored up the canyon. We were taking our time with pics and soaking in the colors. So it's safe to say we were not disappointed with the autumn show as we headed up canyon. Reached the spring area and aspens which begins the climb and ends the autumn show. However, the second half of the hike has it's own show with great views all the way to the summit.

As we approached the summit ran into Joe, JJ, and Chumley heading back down. There was also a large group maybe 25 in total but they decided not to summit and stayed on the saddle below so we had the top to ourselves. Of course the views are great with 360's and a clear day to enjoy it.

After 20 minutes headed back down and caught up with Chumley as he was finishing up checking out the plane crash site. I took his word for it that the climb was very steep and declined to check for myself. We took more time exploring the foliage on the way back particularly around the spring. A lot of color packed into a small area and was the peak location on the mountain. After that it was back to camp and some beverages around a nice camp fire :D
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 Joined Jan 05 2012
 Phoenix,AZ
Bassett PeakTucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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Hiking12.21 Miles 3,230 AEG
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Nov 10 2017
chumley
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 Tempe, AZ
Sunset Peak via High Creek, AZ 
Sunset Peak via High Creek, AZ
 
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chumley
Hiking8.40 Miles 2,725 AEG
Hiking8.40 Miles   4 Hrs   56 Mns   1.99 mph
2,725 ft AEG      43 Mns Break
 
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With plans for Ash Creek on Saturday, I decided it would be fun to try out High Creek on Friday. Pivo and Joseph chose to join me, so had some company for the day.

I could probably have driven the final half mile of road, but it was slow going so I figured it wasn't worth not just starting the hike. Non 4wd vehicles will want to stop a full mile before the end of the road where there's a big camp area and a small FS sign.

I was surprised to see how nice this trail is, and it was also impressively maintained. There's a ton of poison ivy along this one, but it was easy to avoid, and it was prime red for fall, so it was always easy to see too!

The top half mile is super steep, but it's over quickly. Once on the Divide Trail, we headed south about two miles to Sunset Peak which involves a bit of an off-trail scramble to reach. After reading Grotto Girl's report that the eastern peak was a little dicey to climb, I decided to settle on the west peak. They have to be within a foot or two of each other anyway.

This was a fun peak and it was great to check out a new access to the Galiuros via High Creek.
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A few spots with nice color, but still tons of green. I would estimate 2 weeks from prime color.

dry High Creek Dry Dry
Saw one or two tiny pools in bedrock up in the canyon, otherwise completely dry.
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Pivo
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 Tucson, AZ
East Divide Trail #287 - GaliuroTucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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Pivo
Hiking6.54 Miles 1,039 AEG
Hiking6.54 Miles   3 Hrs   6 Mns   2.36 mph
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Short hike to the spring to checkout the colors.Ran into Outdoor_lover on the return. It was nice seeing and chatting with her.
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water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Upper Ash Spring Dripping Dripping
There was a small pool.
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Oct 31 2017
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 Joined Oct 15 2002
 Safford
Ash Creek - GaliuroTucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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Hiking6.00 Miles 987 AEG
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Since I live way closer than most, I decided to do a little public service and go scout the leaves around Ash Creek so I could report back. Figured it would make for a nice day - which it certainly did! - and if I too was early I could easily go back in a couple weeks - which, spoiler alert, I probably will be. What an amazing area! Felt like I was in some deep, remote corner of the Chiricahua's ... yet drive time from home at Roper Lake to the parking spot 7/10ths of a mile up FR660 was a mere hour and ten minutes! :D The road was in great shape the whole way. So, long story short, if I were making the long trek from the Phoenix area in hopes of the best leaf color, I would wait 1-3 weeks - the change is not happening early this year. Also the creek is bone dry. That said, I think just about anytime would be a good time to visit this awesome place.
Now for the long version ...
Which actually began yesterday. Monday was day one of four off, and I had made reservations to spend two nights in Silver City, NM. Intended to visit the Catwalk and Glenwood area, then night one in Silver City, then a full day at Gila Cliff Dwellings and surrounding hikes/hot springs before returning to Silver City that night and home on Wednesday. After a series of delays, mishaps, and thwarted plans - the Catwalk was closed, which I didn't find out until I finally got there ... and that was only one of at least four things that went wrong - I decided in Cliff, NM to bag the trip and go home. All in all it was still a really nice, REALLY scenic drive from Safford up to Glenwood via 191 and 78 and 180, the back down almost to Silver City - some freakishly gorgeous country there! I saw deer, turkeys, javelina, and many raptors, and had a lovely picnic at Leopold Vista. I shall return.
So that's how I came to head off on this trip on Tuesday rather spur of the moment. I realized halfway there that I had forgotten to load the hike on RouteScout ... oh well. I did the hike without a route, a map, or a care in the World.
The creek had not a drop of water that I saw ... yet I was so completely enchanted with the place that I didn't even miss it. The creekbed clearly has it's share of drama, so I eagerly anticipate returning when it's flowing - I'm sure it will be very entertaining. There are many gorgeous campsites along the way, just right for a Jeep with a rooftop tent.
I only encountered one person, A hunter with rifle in hand walking back down 660 when I was about a half mile in.
I startled a lone coatimundi from the creekbed and he ran up the tree right next to me - I almost could have petted him! It happened so fast that by the time I readied my camera he was already back down the tree and fleeing across the creek - a wiser course of action than his first, I thought.
I saw an abundance of deer, including several who seemed completely unconcerned by humans - so much so that I told them to be careful and wished them luck. If I had been shooting a rifle rather than a Nikon, I would be eating venison tonight.
Also saw a flockload of turkeys ... a group of at least two dozen, and some javies hanging with the cows on the drive out.
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 Phoenix, AZ
Tortilla Trail #254Tucson, AZ
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Hiking7.50 Miles 1,539 AEG
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This is a short day hike to the Tortilla Trail #254 past Mud Spring from the Deer Creek TH. I saw the Deer Creek TH marked on my Safford Ranger District Map (purchased that morning in Safford) as I was driving north up the valley between the Pinaleno and Galiuro Mtns on the 3rd day of a 7 day exploration of this area. I found the road leading to the TH across private ranching property. A sign at the turnoff indicated it was OK to use the road as long as I was a good boy. There were a few sprinkles of rain on the drive in which instantly turned the road into a slippery muddy mess but not wet enough to leave tire ruts (one of the forbidden things listed on the sign).

Arriving at the TH I was pleasantly surprised to find an information board with wilderness trail map and a close by car camping site under a huge oak tree. After studying the map I came up with a hiking plan for the next day and set up camp. The next day was cool and clear offering better than usual photo conditions. My progress up the trail was slow due to being in full Tibber photographer mode and also by trying to figure out the confusing over population of trail signs. There were some great views of the Pinaleno Mtns and the Santa Teresa Mtns on this clear morning making it a very enjoyable hike. I had ambitious thoughts of hiking all the way in to Powers Garden until I saw the one way mileage (9.5 miles) posted on one of the trail signs. That makes the round trip distance close to double my daily limit so I set a turn around time of 2:00 pm which got me a mile or two past Mud Spring. Far enough to get some of the best views.

Side Note: There was a letter and map posted at the TH gate identifying an area of the Galiuro Wilderness that is currently closed due to plans for a prescribed burn sometime after Dec 15, 2016. This area is in the south eastern side of the wilderness. See the photo I took of the posted map. [ photo ] A FS Ranger I encountered on my drive out told me the burn had not taken place yet, they were still waiting for the right conditions. He said the area could be closed through April 2017. The info at this link states the burning may continue through July 2017. https://ein.az.gov/eme... I see this is already a forum topic. [ HAZ Forum Post ]
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Kennedy Peak, AZ 
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Hiking12.44 Miles 3,471 AEG
Hiking12.44 Miles   8 Hrs   29 Mns   1.57 mph
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I was hoping for an easy hike in the sense that I’d be able to cruise on autopilot while following a trail for most of the way, but I got anything but that… the only thing easy about this one was the drive to the TH.

The trail was very decent for the first couple of miles, but around 1.5 miles in, I had a brief scare as I heard howling in the distance that definitely seemed to be headed my way / directed toward me. Fortunately, there were some low trees right by the trail, and I climbed up a few branches and then anxiously waited. No sooner did I get situated in the tree than three howling dogs emerged. One was a golden color and looked like a lab, and the other two looked like border collies or something similar; though I’m not particularly good when it comes to guessing dog breeds. These dogs apparently had some very good training as scout/hunt dogs cuz the moment they saw me, they looked extremely disappointment, stopped howling altogether, and took off running back in the direction they’d come from.

Shortly after the dog encounter, the trail crossed a couple of creeks that were flowing with water and had some beautiful pools and small waterfalls, and shortly after that, [about where the trail enters a more wooded area and a sign indicates 2.0 miles to Kennedy Peak], it all went to hell…

The trail was badly overgrown at best and nonexistent at worst… add several inches of snow to the mix and it was a route-finding nightmare, even with GPS. After inadvertently ending up on an animal trail, [and then having to scramble up a snowy cliffy area to get back on track], I’d about had it and resolved to simply bushwhack up to the peak the next time I lost the trail, [which didn’t take very long!].

The bushwhack [or more accurately, ‘snow-whack’…] started off well. The slope I’d opted for was extremely steep, but with almost 1’ of snow AND some well-rooted, non-thorny vegetation, I was able to pull myself slowly up the slope without too much difficulty. However, after reaching a ridge, [at which point my path shifted from SE to almost due South, putting me on the North face], things started to go sour. I was drenched to the bone from the knees down, and the temperature seemed to plummet at least 5 degrees the moment I shifted my path up the shady North face. My feet started to get cold REALLY fast. I quickly assessed the situation. The options were: a) turning back; b) continuing toward the peak on the path I was planning; c) opt for the shortest & fastest route possible up to the ridgeline, which no doubt was warm and sunny. Given my extreme weakness when it comes to negotiating loose/slippery footing, a) was out of the question, and given just how cold my toes were getting, b), [the long route up], was equally unappealing. c) was most ideal, however, the crag-like boulders that would need to be negotiated toward the top definitely had the potential to cause trouble. Contouring was not an option due to some very thick patches of catclaw-like vegetation, but I spotted a large gulley between the crags with a clear line of sight to the top and headed for it. From a distance, the most difficult part looked to be getting up ‘onto’ the based of the gulley, and this definitely proved to be the case.

When I finally reached the base of the gulley, my heart sank and I had to make an effort to stay calm. Not only was it a solid Class 4 climb up into the gulley, my hands were so cold by this point that I could barely feel my fingers. Before attempting the climb, I had to pause and touch my hands to my stomach for a minute or so just to regain enough feeling to pull off the climb. To say I felt a little panicked would be an understatement. The exposure was moderate, and, [while it would’ve been very unlikely for a fall to have resulted in death or even broken bones thanks to all of the snow], the steepness of the slope meant that I’d probably be going for one hell of an elevator ride down if I were to miss. With the help of a small but sturdy tree that was well rooted amongst up the boulders that I needed to climb to get into the gulley, I managed to pull of the precarious climb.

The next order of business was retrieving my pack and trekking poles, while were insecurely balanced on a snow-covered boulder one level below me. There was absolutely nothing to grab onto while reaching downward for my belongings. I managed to get my poles, but could not reach my pack without really starting to slip down toward the edge. Very fortunately, my pack was situated with the straps facing toward me, allowing me to take both trekking poles and carefully slip them through a strap. Once through, I angled the poles upward and then threw my entire body weight back & upward, crashing in to the soft snow behind me. It wasn’t the prettiest or most ideal maneuver but it got the job done; mission accomplished by the skin of my teeth!

By now my hands were so cold they were starting to hurt. A couple more Class 3 climbs were needed to get out of the gulley and up onto the ridge; but, [after several stops to bury my hands against my stomach and regain some feeling], the remaining climbs seemed like child’s play compared to the one I managed to pull off to get into the gulley. As I reached the ridgeline and got off the dreaded North face, there was sunshine all around and several spots with no snow, as I suspected. I found a comfy boulder to sit on and then buried my face into my arms with exhaustion and relief as I waited for my fingers to thaw, which did so in record time.

Having reached the ridge, I was only about 1/4 mile from the peak, and the rest of the way to the top along the trail was smooth sailing. The views were absolutely beautiful and stack right up there with some of my favorite ranges, [Chiricahuas, Pinalenos, & Patagonias to name just a few]. I found one survey marker and a register by the highpoint. The log, [which consisted of several loose sheets of paper], was very wet, so I did ‘register duty’ and took out each sheet until it dried, [which didn’t take more than 5-10 minutes], placing each one gently under a small rock so it wouldn’t blow away. Before leaving the summit, I added an extra layer of security from the elements to the old register jar by wrapping it in a large Ziploc bag that I had in my pack and then returning it to it’s place among the summit cairn.

Ironically enough, my return trip proved to be almost as frightful as my approach. I started down by following the mostly nonexistent trail back to the saddle area. Upon reaching the saddle area, I noticed that the ridgeline leading up toward UN 7390 was more defined than the actual trail. Thus, I decided to head along the ridgeline for my return, [toward UN 7390 and then toward Rockhouse Peak & Topout Peak, both of which were on my itinerary], and then return by one of the other trails I’d routed in that part of the range. I figured if I had time, I’d grab Rockhouse and possibly Topout; and if not, I’d get one/both of them the next day.

Things started off well; and, compared to when I was attempting to follow the trail earlier on, I made great time, got less scratched up, and barely had to look at my GPS while traversing the route on the ridgeline. I hit up UN 7390 and then continued along the ridgeline toward Rockhouse Peak. The views along the ridgeline shortly before Rockhouse are just spectacular and even more beautiful than those from Kennedy Peak. Approaching from the NE, it’s not hard to see how ‘Rockhouse’ got its name. The super craggy peak is composed of layers/levels of crags/boulders, which collectively resemble a large house/building. Although extremely craggy from all sides that I could see, I spotted a gulley that appeared to have a clear line of sight to the top… however, I got sidetracked bouldering up [instead of around] the craggy prominent point on the ridgeline just before Rockhouse; and after cresting the final crag, it cliffed out. By this point, it was too late in the day to retrace my steps, then contour the crag, and then summit Rockhouse. If I wanted to get back before dark, I’d have to call it a day. It was a rare moment for me to commit to a peak and then make a blunder like this, resulting in not reaching the summit, and definitely more than a bit frustrating, but it worked out in the end; the next day I simply approached from a different direction, grabbed the peak, and got to see more of this beautiful range.

For my return, I descended from the crag, headed for a small saddle area to the NE of it, and then dropped into a drainage. This part of the off-trail was slightly different than the route I’d drawn for myself, [since the one I drew was based on exiting the ridge from Rockhouse Peak instead of the crag just to the East of it]. For where I exited the ridge, my two options for reaching trail were:

1. Riding the drainage to the bottom and then reconnecting on the trail I’d come in on; OR
2. [If the drainage cliffed] then bank out on either side and hope to be able to ride the ridge over / down to the trail, with the south ridge leading down to the trail I’d come in on and the North ridge leading over to the Tortilla Trail, which would reconnect with the trail I came in on after 2-3 miles.

It was definitely a bit unnerving as I started down the drainage… having to backtrack at this point would’ve meant hiking for several hours in darkness to get back to my vehicle. Several Class 3 climbs were needed to get down the drainage It would’ve been quite fun in warmer conditions, but with lots of ice in the drainage, it was definitely a cold and wet trip down as I often sat / stepped in the only non-icy spots [i.e. the cold running water]. Further down, I spotted vertical walls on both sides and it really made me nervous. Luckily, as I approached the cliffy section, I noticed a well-beaten animal route banking out to the North. Provided this route didn’t cliff, I’d reach the Tortilla trail in just under 0.75 miles and be home free. After banking out of the drainage, there were a few additional craggy areas to negotiate but nothing difficult, and I soon had a clear line of sight to the Tortilla trail. It was a huge relief to say the least!

On my way over to the trail, I quickly grabbed the craggy but fun / very doable UN 6436, and about 0.75 miles after having connected with the trail, I hit up UN 5881 which was right on the way back. My return trail was worlds better than the one leading to Kennedy Peak, with the one problem spot being in the area right before it crosses Oak Creek. It’s more obvious coming from the other direction, but coming out of the wilderness and back toward the TH, it’s very difficult to follow thanks to the myriad of animal routes that are more beat-in than the main trail and running every which way… thank goodness for Route Scout!

I reached my vehicle with about 10 minutes to spare before I would’ve needed my headlamp. The adventure was epic to say the least, [and at times a little too epic]… so much for my autopilot trail hike!
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rwstorm
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71 male
 Joined Feb 28 2003
 Tucson, AZ
Ash Creek - GaliuroTucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
Hiking avatar Nov 16 2016
rwstorm
Hiking7.97 Miles 1,409 AEG
Hiking7.97 Miles   5 Hrs   45 Mns   1.55 mph
1,409 ft AEG      36 Mns Break
 
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It was a perfect weather day for a stroll along the creek, and even if the color show wasn't as spectacular as in some years, the sheer number of trees more than takes care of that. It was a pleasure to introduce Jack to Arizona's premier run of maples, putting on the great display they are known for. :D

Seems like the trees in this canyon are dying at a faster pace than when I first saw them in 2001. Lots of deadfall to navigate this time around. Otherwise, what can I say, always a delight.

I think Jack gets a little homesick for Minnesota this time of year. Perhaps I should have brought some rakes?

Dinner at La Unica Tortilleria y Taqueria in Willcox on the way home.
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Nov 16 2016
AZLumberjack
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78 male
 Joined Feb 17 2010
 Apache Junction,
Ash Creek - GaliuroTucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
Hiking avatar Nov 16 2016
AZLumberjack
Hiking7.97 Miles 1,409 AEG
Hiking7.97 Miles   5 Hrs   45 Mns   1.55 mph
1,409 ft AEG      36 Mns Break
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Finally we found that elusive Autumn Color


Randy (rwstorm) sent me a PM last week asking me if I wanted to go along to Ash Creek in the Galiuro's, one of the Sky Island Mountains in South Eastern Arizona, for a season ending search for Autumn's elusive color. I'm still nursing a sore foot that has been bothering me for several months but I can't turn down an offer to see some Autumn color and Randy promised me that I wouldn't regret it, and as it turned out, he was right on the mark. After previewing triplogs from JJ, Eagle, Joe, Ron, Red Rocks and Mark, I could only hope that the trees hadn't shed their all of their leaves yet.

We met at a secure gas station parking lot east of Tuscon at 0730, I loaded my gear in his truck and we took off for a long day's adventure. It's a good thing that Randy remembered the route, cause I would have gotten lost any number of times, but we finally arrived at the entrance to the Ash Creek trail, grabbed our gear and hit the trail.

We hadn't gone far before we began seeing the color we were looking for, the bright yellow, gold, orange and red's that the Maple tree is so famous for lined the trail paralleling the dry creek and it only got better the further we went. The occasional glimpse of tall rugged cliff faces on the opposite side of the wash only added to the brilliance of the color that we were basking in. The gray clouds that had been gathering as we drove in, were now breaking up, leaving long white streaks in the Arizona Blue sky and a steady breeze showered us with red, yellow and gold leaves 8)

We took a break, Randy with his sore knee and me with my sore foot, to allow our aching joints to gather relief but soon we were on our way again. We finally made it to the Upper Spring Box where we decided that this was enough punishment to our lower extremities and made our turn-around to head back down to Randy's truck. On the way back to Tucson, we stopped at La Unica Tortilleria y Taqueria in Willcox for some excellent Mexican cooking (and a cold refreshing beverage) then the long drive back home.

Thanks for the invite Randy and thanks for driving to the trailhead, we finally got to see some awesome Autumn color :y:

The predicted cold front with high winds and rain potential may be the spoiler to this Arizona Autumn hot spot, but many of the Maple trees were still in the late stages of green which means that there could be more color available, so don't write this one off yet.
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Lots of Maple in their best Autumn brilliance and some are still in the green stage, so there's more to come folks.

dry Lower Ash Spring Dry Dry
Looks pretty bad, need some rain (or snow) round here.
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Nov 12 2016
Pivo
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 Joined Mar 01 2009
 Tucson, AZ
East Divide Trail #287 - GaliuroTucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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Pivo
Hiking8.94 Miles 2,021 AEG
Hiking8.94 Miles   5 Hrs   5 Mns   1.99 mph
2,021 ft AEG      35 Mns Break18 LBS Pack
 
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Still too early for peak colors WTF? Climate Change is in full swing; third year in a row peak is weeks after the traditional first week in November.
All in all a really nice weekend camping trip with pleasant mild weather.
I forgot the sleeping pad for the Land Cruiser, and paid for it with a very tight back. Called it a day at the saddle.
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RedwallNHops
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44 male
 Joined Dec 22 2003
 Tucson, AZ
Gailuro weekend, AZ 
Gailuro weekend, AZ
 
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RedwallNHops
Backpack21.00 Miles 5,200 AEG
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3 day/2 night backpack in the Gailuros. Hiked in to Holdout Spring on Friday. Dayhike to shootout cabin and mine on Sat. Hiked out on Sunday.
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 Ahwatukee, AZ
Rattlesnake Trail #285Tucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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Sredfield
Backpack23.50 Miles 2,067 AEG
Backpack23.50 Miles3 Days         
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Six of us hiked in from High Creek TH to Holdout Spring and spent the night. Next day we all hiked down to the Shootout Cabin and Powers mine, then back to Rattlesnake and maybe a quarter mile further to the mine ruins for lunch. Then back to Holdout for the night. I'd been in there a few times 15 +/- years ago, my how things change. Much more overgrown, and steeper than I remembered, but I was younger then. Great time with great folks.

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Spring is a small pool a short ways down canyon from the cave. With 8 people using it, it didn't drop at all.
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Oct 29 2016
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 Far NE Phoenix,
Bassett Peak and B24 Wreck via Ash Creek, AZ 
Bassett Peak and B24 Wreck via Ash Creek, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Oct 29 2016
The_Eagle
Hiking11.95 Miles 3,389 AEG
Hiking11.95 Miles   6 Hrs   53 Mns   1.78 mph
3,389 ft AEG      10 Mns Break15 LBS Pack
 
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We changed the hike up to get to a place a little cooler with color.

First time in this area for me and it's some pretty country. A Pistachio grove, fields of Bright Red Chili Peppers, Tomatoes, Apples, Pears, Peaches and cotton were all passed on the drive in. On the turn off from the Sunset Loop to Ash Creek Rd, there were Campers / RV's all set up for deer hunting. We saw 3 hung up on the way in and at least six on the way out. We heard no shots all day.

JJ made the most of the available road getting to the TH. We only stopped once to move a boulder out of the way, with JJ trying to put his Cherokee through a slot the same width of the rock opening.

The hike is enjoyable through Ash Creek to Upper Ash Spring. There was plenty of color, but also plenty green. A week or 2 should make this perfect.

Making the climb out of the creek, the views started opening up. The Mt Graham area looms large behind a vast grassy area running to the base of it. It's a steady climb to the top, with just a few loose spots. The turn off The East Divide trail to get to the top is a bit thin, but it's been recently flagged it to top.

We headed down to to checkout B24 crash site from 1943. 12 tragically lost their lives here. It is steep and loose getting down to this site. There is quite a bit of debris scattered about.

After climbing back up to the trail, it was all downhill to the Trailhead.

I'm glad I was able to finally make it out to this one. It's been on the radar for quite awhile.

Thanks JJ for all the driving...

Great hiking with you and the Turtle again. Two Thumbs? up!
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Plenty in the spring box and the creek below
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Oct 29 2016
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 Mesa, AZ
Bassett Peak and B24 Wreck via Ash Creek, AZ 
Bassett Peak and B24 Wreck via Ash Creek, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Oct 29 2016
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Hiking11.95 Miles 3,389 AEG
Hiking11.95 Miles   6 Hrs   53 Mns   1.78 mph
3,389 ft AEG      10 Mns Break
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JJ said he had an urge to do Ajo Peak so I jumped at the chance. It's in the 100 hikes book and I've been wanting to do it. This is the weekend Laurel was out of town so Hardy said he would join us :D . He also said it's to hot so we will do a different hike :o :scared: . Oh well, Ajo another time.... :) .
The drive in was an adventure and would be a no-go for the flying Focus. The fall colors were just starting but I like the tree canopy either way. The climb was a climb but shooting the bull with the boys eases the pain :) . Great views and some cool rock formations add to this "Fall color hike". Throw in a summit and it makes for a pretty nice hike. JJ suggested we do the Sunset Loop Drive on the way home. that was a good call also. Top it off with some good food in Globe and I'd say this trip was a winner. Thanks to JJ for driving and Bruce for dinner. Like HAZ :yr:
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Oct 14 2016
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 Joined Nov 15 2005
 Puhoynix, AZ
Powers GardenTucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
Hiking avatar Oct 14 2016
toddak
Hiking18.00 Miles 3,500 AEG
Hiking18.00 Miles   9 Hrs      2.00 mph
3,500 ft AEG
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Nice day in the Grass-iuros on an out-and-back to Powers Garden. Very long drive to the Deer Creek trailhead and the hike itself is pretty gnarly (and cow infested), but the destination is very cool. Lots of tents in the meadow but no one around, probably a trail crew out there. PG reminds me a lot of Reavis Ranch in the Supes.
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