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Big Jim Trail - 17 members in 55 triplogs have rated this an average 3.6 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Apr 13 2022
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 Fountain Hills,
Peak 3465 - Hieroglyphic MountainsPhoenix, AZ
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DixieFlyerTriplogs 706
Hiking12.40 Miles 2,430 AEG
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I have not done this hike in a while, so I decided to take advantage of a relatively cool day and check it out.

The north part of the walking jim loop is much better than the southern part. It is difficult to follow the trail on the southern part, and next time I will likely just do an out-and-back on the northern part of the loop.

I saw 19 wild burros: a group of 12 in the morning, and then 2 groups of 3 and one loner on the way back.
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Ocotillo flowers and staghorn cholla were the highlights. There was also some creosote bush and strawberry hedgehog, along with one buckhorn cholla. I did not see any owl clover at all, which is unusual for this area at this time of year.
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Hieroglyphic Pikes Peak - 3465 - 2191 - Mill, AZ 
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TboneKathyTriplogs 14
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I've had problems with Route Scout crashing on hikes, so my stats are little off, but @John10s has a better route for this hike. If we compared our routes, mine would show the main loop, but most of the out-and-back arms would be truncated. Those would be the peaks that I enjoyed from part way up. John10s is a lot faster than I am, but while waiting for him to go up, I end up seeing a lot of things I wouldn't have seen otherwise.

I did reach the top of Peak 2191 early in the hike. When the steep and loose began to dominate enroute to Peak 3465, I found a seat where I could observe the wild burros as John10s went for the peak. With limited time, I wanted to be sure we'd have time to reach Pikes Peak. Burro viewing was cut short as they were right on John10s’s trail to the peak. They were very obliging, moving on for him and posing for pictures.

I enjoyed the call of a canyon wren. Then a hawk of some type soared near and perched on the cliffs across the way, and then was joined by another.

Pikes Peak ended up requiring more bushwhacking than expected. Checking the time, it was clear we wouldn't both have time to make it. I found a seat again and soon heard footsteps. Trying to locate the source, a large black spot caught my eye across the canyon. It looked a lot like a black bear rump. Until it turned. A dark burro! It turned out there were several of various colors and on this still day, I could hear their footsteps across the wide canyon.

A turkey vulture soared and circled. Then a smaller, jay-sized bird showed up and harassed it. An even smaller bird joined in, and right in front of me, the smaller bird closed in on the vulture and I could clearly see the vulture snap and barely miss it! Another noise distracted me and I turned to see a black-throated sparrow (?) in the bush just 5 feet away.

I heard a cactus wren, and realizing that I had an internet connection, played some cactus wren calls to encourage it to continue and perhaps even move in closer, but I don't think I really made any difference.

We had a long walk out, with the southern part of the loop being rougher than the north. As we neared the end, we were treated to a long, loud and varied wild burro braying party.

So John10s and I had more divergent experiences on this hike than on most, but both experiences were fulfilling.
Feb 27 2022
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Hieroglyphic Pikes Peak - 3465 - 2191 - Mill, AZ 
Hieroglyphic Pikes Peak - 3465 - 2191 - Mill, AZ
 
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We returned to Hells Canyon Wilderness a few months after our first visit to check out some new peaks. We started counter-clockwise on the Walkin' Jim Loop and left the trail early to hike up to Peak 2191, which was more hill than peak. It served as a nice warmup--pretty easy off-trail hiking and less than 400 feet of elevation gain to the top. A few javelinas ran off as we made our way up, and even though it's a fairly low peak, it offered nice views of Lake Pleasant just after sunrise. On the way back down toward the trail, we saw our first wild burro of the day.

Based on the guides for Pike's Peak and 3465, it sounded like the latter would be the slower of the two, with more bushwhacking and scrambling required to reach the top. With that in mind, we decided to hike 3465 next and get complete the bigger challenge first, so we headed west and continued onto Big Jim Trail. It's a beautifully rugged area as the trail starts to climb toward the saddle at the end of Big Jim, and we saw three wild burros up on the hillside. @TBoneKathy waited part way up Big Jim while I continued toward the peak. The burros ended up leading the way for a while, staying on the trail and jogging ahead of me as I approached before they finally ran down a steep hillside...their surefootedness on steep, loose terrain in impressive. [ youtube video ]

The route to 3465 was well-cairned, relatively brush-free, and easy to follow. I saw another group of javelinas on the way up, and the few areas that required some scrambling were straightforward. The lid on the summit register jar had rusted through, and the papers inside had suffered water damage. I had an empty plastic container with me, so I put all the old papers inside and added a few new sheets.

[ youtube video ]

On the way back down, I found a random piece of pottery near Big Jim Trail at the saddle, which I didn't expect out there. I rejoined TboneKathy, and we headed for Pike's Peak next. That proved to be a much slower bushwhack than 3465, with a lot more brush and loose rock to contend with and no informal trail to follow. With time constraints, TboneKathy waited partway up the slope to the saddle while I continued on. It wasn't particularly steep or difficult and didn't have any exposure; it was just slow going beteween rocky terrain and plenty of sharp desert foliage to dodge. One I reached the saddle, it was a much faster final climb up to the summit, where there were two memorials, one for someone named Bill Marsh and one for Bob Marsh. I didn't find a summit register up there...perhaps I should have saved the plastic bottle I'd left to replace the one on 3465...

[ youtube video ]

Still short on time, I rushed over toward Mill 3189, passing a few more wild burros along the way. On the scramble up to the peak, I ended up with a teddy bear cholla stuck in my right calf, in the exact same spot I'd already removed one earlier in the day...ouch. I found the benchmark on the top but didn't see a summit register or go off the ridgeline to look for Frustum #18 before I started back down.

[ youtube video ]

It was nice to be back on flat trail again after a lot of bushwhacking, and we had a few more wild burro encounters on the hike out--some we saw, some we only heard braying nearby...a much more welcome sound than the shooting range off in the distance. Overall, it was a really nice day, with visits to four new peaks, perfect weather, and relative solitude--we only saw four other people all the trails all day--two bow hunters and two hikers.
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Jan 01 2022
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 Phoenix, AZ
Peak 3465 - Hieroglyphic MountainsPhoenix, AZ
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This was a new area for me. The peak and surrounding area was pretty cold and windy so we took a few photos and then hid behind some rocks on the way down. I was pleasantly surprised that the trail was pretty easy to find and follow. New year is starting out solid.
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Peak 3465 - Hieroglyphic MountainsPhoenix, AZ
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LindaAnnTriplogs 1,572
Hiking11.53 Miles 2,218 AEG
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Decided to head up to Peak 3465 today. Started on the northern half of the Walkin Jim Loop, which is the better half of this loop. The trail is rocky enough that you can never quite get a good pace going. Enough cairns to stay on track in the vague spots. Saw several burros.

Headed up Big Jim Trail and made my way up to 3465. Steep and rocky, but easy to follow. One washout has a detour above it. None of the scrambling really requires hands except for balance. Took a break and had a snack at the summit before heading back down.

Since I was low on water, I decided to head back on the northern half of Walkin Jim, rather than completing the loop. The trail on the southern half of the loop (especially the western side) is hard to follow in places, and I didn’t want to waste time or water.

When I was at the junction with Little Jim, I decided to head south on that and reconnect with the rest of the loop after all. Again, Little Jim was vague in places, but I just kept heading the correct direction and always found the trail or cairns again. Once on the southern side of Walkin Jim, I headed east, finishing out the loop, and taking my usual shortcut as I approached the traihead.

Saw a lot of burros today. Tons of birds. Zero people. Warm, too warm for the end of November. No breeze. No clouds. Still a nice day though.
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Peak 3465 - Hieroglyphic MountainsPhoenix, AZ
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joebartelsTriplogs 5,286
Hiking12.50 Miles 2,232 AEG
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Team Grandpa allowed me into the club, sans credentials. The first 1.5 miles were cold without a golden ray of sun. Shockingly noticed tiny clear water pools, glorified puddles, in the creekbed of Cottonwood Creek. Walkin' Jim is aptly named on the north side of the loop we hiked in on, gaining a whopping 150-ft in 1.5 miles.

About a third of this hike is in the Hells Canyon Wilderness. While I never lose sleep over the area, it always leaves me thinking, "that was pretty cool". Being the closest wilderness to home, it loses brownie points right outta the starting gate. There's just some sick reset to life by getting further away and punishing your muscles silly. Overkill on the build-up, but damn, the topography out here intrigues.

Around 3 miles in the tread would be considered mild rocky by anti-Y-Bar strollers. Bruce and I hiked this last April at the tail end of a super bloom, where I wrote, "By two and a half miles in there was Owl Clover at least every two yards". Since so little rain has occurred since then, I anticipated a total letdown. It was not a letdown, but I was perplexed why. The difference was half of that hike was needle-sharp foxtail torture, trying to snag Mill & Pikes peaks. Without further ado, short-n-boring trail hikes slathered in olive drab are my new favorites! Well... in perfect weather, with decent company anyhow.

After last week's hit lunch, I brought half an Italian wrap for an early lunch at Peak 3465. More of a chore vs. the savory smoked-chicken bacon wrap last week.

It would appear Bob has been working overtime. The final ~four miles, the semi-challenging navigational segment, on the south side of the loop is cairned very well.
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Peak 3465 via the Jims, AZ 
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This is a favorite of mine close to the valley. You get the feeling of remoteness, without a long drive. It's a nice leg stretcher with the roller coaster of the Walkin' Jim Loop. It also has enough elevation gain on the Big Jim Trail and the the mild off trail to Peak 3465 to get the heart beating.

Denny was kind enough to fit us into his schedule, so the Stooges were together again. It was a brisk start to the day until the orb rose high enough in the sky.

We almost always see wild burros and this hike was the same. 3 separate groups were seen.

We took a break for an early lunch on top of 3465. I really enjoy the 360's from up there.

On the way back we ran in to 2 groups climbing Big Jim to the peak. I think this was the first time I've seen people on this section.

good to get the gang back together again.
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Peak 3465 - Hieroglyphic MountainsPhoenix, AZ
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I talked Bruce and Joe into letting me join them for a hike. Bruce picked one in my mileage range that I hadn’t done before. It was nice to get out with the boys again. Trail is in pretty good shape with cairns here and there to keep you from taking burrow trails by mistake. We did see burrows three different times. Some nice cacti and lots of jojoba in the area. A nice area and pretty clean for being so close to town. Nice summit and lunch spot. Great views, weather, and company!! Need to get out with these gents more often! Of course, like HAZ, they rock!
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Peak 3465 - Hieroglyphic MountainsPhoenix, AZ
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Finding parking is always an adventure for this trail due to the number of ATV trailers parked in the parking lot. After finding a spot the trail starts deceptively easy through beautiful desert terrain. We saw a few donkeys along the trail which certainly was great. Then the climb started and that was quite strenous at least for us but for most of the time the trail was easy enough to follow and the views made it worthwhile. The false peak certainly was deflating a bit but in the end we made it to the true peak - yoohoo! Returning we barely made it down before darkness came (which was great as we didn't want to do the descent at night) and then continued to the parking lot while getting quite scared along the way by a floating set of red eyes (that we finally identified as being a donkey :)).
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I went out to the Lake Pleasant area and hiked up to both Pike's Peak and the Mill Benchmark.

We did the Walkin' Jim Loop CCW, and when we got to the junction with the Big Jim Trail we took the Big Jim Trail for a short distance before going off-trail to Pike's Peak and then the Mill Benchmark. When we were at the Mill Benchmark we started to go up to Peak 3392, but it would have taken longer than we wanted, so we decided to head back. We went back to the Big Jim Trail the same way that we came up. Once back on the Walkin' Jim Trail, we continued the loop back to the TH.

The off-trail portion seemed a bit easier than the other time that I did it. The 2nd half of the Walkin' Jim Trail was hard to follow in places, and I got way off course once, so don't follow my GPS track on this portion. The orientation on my GPS was screwed up, rendering the GPS almost worthless in following a track.

It was a nice day to be out there, although it got a bit warm on the hike back. We saw 7 burros in the early part of the hike, and heard several others braying. There were no sightings of other humans on the hike.
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Apr 19 2020
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Peak 3465 - Hieroglyphic MountainsPhoenix, AZ
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Last January, a friend hid a geocache out this way. Finding it entails taking the Walkin' Jim Trail and Big Jim Trail to the top of Peak 3465 in Hells Canyon Wilderness. It's a field puzzle so you need to find certain rock formations, or "demons" on the way to find where the cache is actually hidden (outside the wilderness). Unfortunately, I missed a demon so made this an out and back looking for it on my return.

The trailhead was fairly full, mostly from trucks with their ATV trailers. I rode my motorcycle out so didn't have any problem finding a place to park.

The trails were in better condition than I remember them being the last time I was out this way, over ten years ago. The Walkin' Jim trail is easy to follow and there was a fair bit of wild flowers. There was a lot of pools with some trickle in Cottonwood Creek, water wouldn't be an issue on an overnight. At the junction of Walkin' Jim and Big Jim trails, I passed a couple out with their dog. They must have done the loop or turned back because I didn't see them again.

Big Jim trail is a bit rougher than Walkin' Jim, especially once it starts climbing. The climb is steep at times; my lack of fitness really showed. The trail wasn't difficult to follow until the last push to the summit where it was more difficult to spot the cairns pointing the way.

The views along the way and at the top are spectacular and kept the walk most enjoyable.

On the way back, I saw two separate hikers. One was an elderly man that either took a tumble and bloodied his face, or he just got a nose bleed. He wasn't looking the best but was near the trailhead and moving fine.
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Peak 3465 - Hieroglyphic MountainsPhoenix, AZ
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When people did the Walking Jim Loop, I've heard nothing but good things. When people did 3465, I heard nothing but good things. It's been on my List for years to do both. With the clock ticking on our rising temps, I made a point to get this one in, especially since the bloom is so nice out there. Besides that, I wanted some mileage and elevation since I'm having a very off week. I'm on the Patch, but still even with that, there's been a lot of low energy, restlessness and lack of motivation. At least the Patch is keeping me awake and out of bed. Should be better hopefully in a few weeks. This kind of hike is going to help, a LOT. And thanks to Joe's triplog, I made sure to put the gators on when the legs got unzipped. Good Call. :sweat:

I arrived just before sunrise to one other car in the lot. The couple belonging to the car had camp chairs set up across the road and were enjoying the sunrise. They were the only people I saw all day. When I got back to the lot, I was the only vehicle. Heard some distant shooting at times and there was traffic noise towards the beginning and end. This Hike totally had me forgetting about civilization for awhile. Can't beat that.

What an amazing trail. What an amazing hike. What an amazing day. Water in the creek, rolling hills of purple and blue, with some white making an appearance too. Yellow was still there and the Ocotillo and Cholla were beginning to share. Birds called, flirted and flitted and a well hung Squirrel feasted on Spring. The Butterflies abounded and sometimes landed. There were some new ones today. The Easter Bunny made a post holiday appearance. At least it was alive, the Kangaroo Rat was not so lucky. It was a 3 Rattlesnake Day, two different species, one of which was a new one for me, finally. The first one didn't rattle, but it didn't matter as his mouth was full and he was more worried about finishing breakfast in peace. The second one rattled, but the rattle was pretty small and quiet. He was nice too and just crawled under a rock. The third one was just a teenager, maybe, and if I hadn't been super vigilant at that point and spotted his head, I probably would have smoked right by him and never knew it. He never moved a muscle and that tiny button wasn't capable of much sound. And the Trail was so nice that even Asses liked it. Clouds made for great skies. I liked the wind in the afternoon, the gnats hated it. It kept the temps pretty nice too. Breaks were shorter than normal since I wasn't including oxygen sticks, but the photography early on used up a lot of time. Just so much to see, do and enjoy. I was tired at the end, but finished pretty strong still.

What else is there to say, just a great day....
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The Owl Clover and Lupine is insane, but probably will be about done in a week at these temps. The Hedgehogs are still showing off nicely and now the Cholla and Ocotillo are getting into the game, with the Prickly Pear not far behind. Brittlebush is still showy in spots. Palo Verde is a week or two away from being glorious, but a few were hinting. Lots of groupings of flea bane and other whites in places as well.

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I was looking for a hike that wasn't too far away, had some wildflowers, and that probably wouldn't have many people on it, and after reading the triplogs from @joebartels and @The_Eagle from last weekend, I decided to head out and hike up to Peak 3465. Chris from Tucson joined me, and it was her first time in this area.

It turned out to be a great hike: the weather was super; there were LOTS of wildflowers; and we saw 2 wild burros, one rattlesnake, and ZERO other humans.

We hiked the Walkin' Jim Trail in a CCW fashion, and took a side trip up to Peak 3465 on the Big Jim Trail. Someone has done a good job of trail maintenance on the Walkin' Jim Trail -- the trail is now easy to follow on the south side of the loop.

We saw the diamondback rattler about a mile or so before we got back to the TH. I heard a rattle, but couldn't tell where it was coming from, and Chris spotted the viper in a bush right off the trail. If the snake had kept quiet we would have walked past it without seeing it...but the snake decided to be ornery for whatever reason.

Here is a short video that Chris took of the rattler wagging its tail: [ youtube video ]
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There was lots and lots of owl clover throughout the entire hike. There was also lots of strawberry hedgehog blooming throughout the hike. Brittlebush, lupine, globemallow, and fairy duster were also quite prevalent in various parts of the hike.
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Walkin/Big Jim - 3465 - Mill - Jeep Jeep Loop, AZ 
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By two and a half miles in there was Owl Clover at least every two yards. Often fields. In retrospect, the only voids were the peaks and spotty above 2,500 ft.

The hike along Walkin' Jim Loop Trail then Big Jim Trail to 3,465 and back down was storybook. The off-trail hike to Mill started as a light bushwhack and avoiding cactus with sure footing. Foxtail we'd seen along the on-trail hike was now our world.

We headed up to Mill from the Pikes-Mill Saddle. Mill ends through a cholla minefield the final 50-100 yards. Mill, aka Cholla Ball Peak, is not a comfortable break spot with unfriendlies and jagged rock. Recharging with a lunchbreak was necessary and this was the best option. It is a nice spot to admire the intense terrain views with a nice backdrop of a lake in a desert. Defoxtailification surrounded by the bastards paid off in three glorious steps back to the cholla minefield.

We squabbled over the planned continuation to Pikes, then agreed to abort directly down to the beautiful jeep road. In figuring out the route we seriously irritated a hawk. It kept circling and divebombing Bruce from behind. He was a good sport offering his life as I failed to video the situation. With video off, the mock speed cluster of atoms left a lasting impression diving through two saguaros.

Off-trail down to the jeep road was dicey. Loose terrain had a joy factor of clueless footing through knee-deep grass loaded with various undesirables. Luckily no hidden striking snakes.

Returned on jeep roads back to the southern leg of Walkin' Jim Loop Trail. A mile after talking about Bob and the remarkable condition of the trail we met Bob raking the trail.
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Every Wildflower I've seen this year, typically intense.
Owl Clover and Lupine are current standouts. Possibly peaking right. Possibly fading quick, depending on that fat ol' sun.
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Walking/Big Jim - 3465 - Mill - Jeep Jeep Loop, AZ 
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The_EagleTriplogs 1,936
Hiking17.83 Miles 3,408 AEG
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Owl Clover, Lupine, Brittle Bush, Mariposa Lilly, Desert Marigold, Desert Chicory, and more Owl Clover. Also plenty of pesky Foxtail just becoming mature for the year.

Peak 3465 and the Walking Jim/Big Jim trails are a close go to favorite for me. I first did these trails more than 10 years ago, when route finding was a problem. Route finding is no longer an issue. The north portion of the Walking Jim Loop is easy to follow. Did I mention Owl Clover.

Big Jim Trail to Peak 3465 is also easy to follow. My Son and I cairned a route from the saddle to 3465 more than 10 years ago. It's a well worn path now.

I love the views from Peak 3465. They never get old.

We descend 3465 and then make our way up to Mill. The foxtails are frickin' irritating.

Lunch at the top of Mill while Joe cleaned his socks.
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Pikes Peak was bypassed as someone had enough of the foxtails.
I'll still need to make my way back to do this one. That was sooooo close.

Joe used me as a crash test dummy for a hawk that wanted to take off my head... repeatedly. He claims he could not get the video, as the hawk got closer with each dive bomb.

We took the steep westerly descent from the Mill/Pikes Peak Saddle. The tall friendly grass hid rocks and things with rattles.

It was nice to hit some of the old mine/jeep roads as the foxtail dug deeper into my socks. Pikes Peak teased me as we hiked around it.

We ran into the Lord of the Walking/Big/Little Jim hikes, @bobhike.
He was doing trail maintenance. It's his creation and hike description that got me out there many years ago.

No burros, one pesky hawk, buzzards, and one slithering Kingsnake were the only wild life spotted. Bob was the only human we crossed paths with.

The weather was perfect.
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Hieroglyphics - 3465 Pikes Mill peaks, AZ 
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I like to visit these peaks once a year before the weather gets too warm, and today seemed like a good day to get them checked off the list. We got started a little after 0800 and headed west on Walkin' Jim trail. Easy hiking, with the trail generally easy to follow. Turned right onto Big Jim Trail and took it up to 3465. The trail from the saddle up to the summit has become more defined, and it's now pretty easy to avoid scrambling through the rocks just below the summit--there's now a clear path that stays just below those rocks. Short break at the summit before heading back down.

We turned off Big Jim and headed down to the wash to make our way over to Pikes and Mill. This has become more overgrown since last winter and the ridge heading west up from the wash was very brushy compared to prior trips. Slow progress through here, but I generally stayed pretty close to the right of the ridge and once up top, it was just a matter of avoiding the endless cholla on the way over to the peaks. Visited Pikes first, then Mill, before heading back down the ridge and through the wash. Once back on Big Jim, we headed over to Walkin' Jim to complete the loop.

As usual, the southern half of Walkin' Jim is much more vague and difficult to follow. Got off track in a couple of places, but we were able to find the trail again quickly each time. Took the shortcut near the end to shave off a chunk of distance around a hill. Finished up close to 1730. Nice day for this one, although it was a little warm due to the lack of breeze almost the entire time.
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A small group of us went out and did this hike today. We did the Walkin' Jim Loop CCW, and along the way went up to Peak 3465 on the Big Jim Trail.

In the first mile or so of the hike we saw a group of about 15 wild burros -- that was the largest group of burros that I have seen while hiking in this area.

This area is underrated imho, and I enjoy hiking out there!

After the hike we stopped off at the Scorpion Bay Grill, right on Lake Pleasant -- the food and beverages are good, and the ambiance is great!
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Did the walking Jim loop plus the big Jim trail to the top. Really a wonderful Place to hike and thank you to all who,take time and effort to put up carens.
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I was looking for a hike that had some distance and elevation gain, and also offered some peaks to bag. I decided to head to the Hieroglyphic Mountains near Lake Pleasant and do this hike. I had hiked up to Peak 3465 twice before, but had never done Pikes Peak(3,177') or Mill(3,189') before. Pikes and Mill were off-trail, and I stolecopied tracks that @LindaAnn and @trekkin_gecko uploaded from their hike to these 2 peaks back in January of this year.

From the trailhead, I started out on the Walkin Jim trail, and did the loop CCW. Once I got to the Big Jim Trail junction, I took the Big Jim Trail up to Peak 3465. It was a fun scramble up to the summit of Peak 3465. On the way back down, a short distance before getting back to the Walkin Jim trail, I took off on an off-trail jaunt up to Pikes and Mill. I pretty closely followed the route that @LindaAnn and @trekkin_gecko used. It was a little steep and slippery for part of the hike up and down, but it wasn't too bad of a bushwhack. Once on top it was easy following a ridgeline up to Pikes Peak first, and then to Mill. I took the same route back down to the Big Jim Trail, and then went back to the Walkin Jim trail. Once back to the Walkin Jim trail, I continued on the loop back to the TH. Route finding on the southern portion of the Walkin Jim trail was a bit of a challenge at times: the trail was often more faint than it was on the northern section of the trail and there weren't as many cairns. I got off track a few times, and I was glad that I had a GPS track to follow.

On the way back on the southern part of the Walkin Jim trail I saw 7 burros, and heard a lot more. I have seen wild burros each of the 3 times that I have hiked the southern section of the Walkin Jim Trail, but have never seen any on the northern section.

In the morning, on the northern section of the Walkin Jim Trail I came across a bovine bull standing in the middle of the trail. I stopped and watched him for a few minutes, hoping that he would move. He eventually moved about 10 feet off the trail and stopped. I decided to just circle around him and continue on my way -- fortunately the bull did not seem ornery. I think that I would rather deal with a bear or a mountain lion than a really mean domestic bull.

Once on top of the ridge connecting Pikes and Mill, it was an easy walkup to get up to Pikes Peak. There was a bit of scrambling to get on top of Mill, and I had to make my way through a cholla mine field on my way up to the Mill summit. There were a couple of memorials to deceased hikers on Pikes Peak, which was interesting to see.
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got an invite from linda to hike 3465 and a couple of other peaks nearby
really liked 3465 when i hiked it with johnlp a few years ago
just don't get over this way very often
we got going before sunrise
nice enough temps, a little damp due to overnight rains
some nice clouds over lake pleasant and the bradshaw mountains
walkin' jim to big jim and up to 3465
great views from there
dropped back down then took a faint use trail to a wash, then a ridgeline to the saddle between pikes and mill
headed first to pikes and checked out summit views and the memorial
back to the saddle then northeast to mill
nice little scramble to get up the last little bit
too bad we didn't know there was a benchmark up there
easy off trail up high
took a lunch break after mill
linda found her original route back down
much better footing and an easier grade
she also let me use one of her hiking poles which made a big difference on the descent - thank you!
finished out the loop with one little shortcut
nice day, good company and two new peaks!
needed to reclaim some off trail credibility :lol:
using linda's stats, although mine are close
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