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Sep 22 2019
trailzrus
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 Routes 69
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67 male
 Joined Jul 24 2009
 Mesa, AZ
Ice Cave Trail #608Alpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
Hiking avatar Sep 22 2019
trailzrus
Hiking3.35 Miles 613 AEG
Hiking3.35 Miles
613 ft AEG
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May 03 2019
Frostshocknoob
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 Routes 141
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31 male
 Joined Sep 05 2014
 Phoenix, AZ
Ice Cave Trail #608Alpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
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Frostshocknoob
Hiking7.07 Miles 676 AEG
Hiking7.07 Miles   3 Hrs   47 Mns   2.10 mph
676 ft AEG      25 Mns Break
 
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Nov 21 2018
markthurman53
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 Guides 104
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67 male
 Joined Jun 27 2015
 Tucson, Arizona
Blue Ridge Trail, AZ 
Blue Ridge Trail, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Nov 21 2018
markthurman53
Hiking13.80 Miles 1,251 AEG
Hiking13.80 Miles   5 Hrs   33 Mns   2.91 mph
1,251 ft AEG      48 Mns Break15 LBS Pack
 
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For Thanksgiving my family decided to head up to Pinetop Lakeside area for a couple of days. Before everyone arrived I decided to try out some of the trails in the area since I have never really hiked in the White Mountains area. I opted for the Blue Ridge Trail and the upper portion of the Ice Cave Trail. This hike was kind of a sleeper, just a long walk through Ponderosa Juniper forest. There was an elevation gain of about 1300 feet but spread out over about a 4 mile section of the almost 14 mile loop. The views are very limited because of the trees. With my time limited and the trail in good condition I was able to keep a 3 MPH pace. The weather was perfect about 22 degrees at 0700 and in the upper 40’s around noon with full sunshine and no breeze to speak of. There is logging in the area cutting down selectively, mainly on the eastern portion of the trail. Most of the ponderosa here are 90 to 100 years old growing since the last large logging operations in the early 1900’s. Ice cave is an old volcanic vent that vents out a constant 52 degree air (I didn’t feel it, it would have been warmer than the outside air). There was a chain link fence around it so I only got within 20 feet of it, but I read afterword that there was a gate that allows access.
I would not drop everything to hike the trails in the Pinetop Lakeside area but if you are in the area and feel the urge for a hike or just need to walk off a Thanksgiving dinner the trails in this area are worth it. The trail system up here is really good, well maintained and marked.
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Jul 20 2018
emilystardust
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38 female
 Joined Jun 23 2015
 Phoenix, AZ
Ice Cave Trail #608Alpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
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emilystardust
Hiking5.80 Miles 613 AEG
Hiking5.80 Miles
613 ft AEG
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Jan 06 2018
nathanbrisk
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34 male
 Joined Aug 06 2009
 Phoenix, AZ
Ice Cave Trail #608Alpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
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nathanbrisk
Hiking4.29 Miles 364 AEG
Hiking4.29 Miles   2 Hrs   6 Mns   2.50 mph
364 ft AEG      23 Mns Break
 
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Sep 09 2017
fricknaley
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45 male
 Joined Jun 20 2003
 Tucson, AZ
Ice Cave Trail #608Alpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
Hiking avatar Sep 09 2017
fricknaley
Hiking7.98 Miles 742 AEG
Hiking7.98 Miles   3 Hrs   33 Mns   2.31 mph
742 ft AEG      6 Mns Break
 
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cloudy and occasional light rain made for a wonderfully refreshing hike in the woods with Sierra, Michelle, Grandma and Grandpa!

ice cave is pretty neat. you can feel cool air coming out. Scott reservoir had a decent amount of water and was surrounded by a zillion yellow flowers. :) nice little spot with flowers along Porter Creek too.

very pleasant hike
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Oct 06 2016
trailzrus
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67 male
 Joined Jul 24 2009
 Mesa, AZ
Ice Cave Trail #608Alpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
Hiking avatar Oct 06 2016
trailzrus
Hiking3.40 Miles 613 AEG
Hiking3.40 Miles
613 ft AEG
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Jun 11 2016
trailzrus
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67 male
 Joined Jul 24 2009
 Mesa, AZ
Ice Cave Trail #608Alpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
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trailzrus
Hiking3.00 Miles 613 AEG
Hiking3.00 Miles
613 ft AEG
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Jul 26 2015
trailzrus
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67 male
 Joined Jul 24 2009
 Mesa, AZ
Ice Cave Trail #608Alpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
Hiking avatar Jul 26 2015
trailzrus
Hiking3.00 Miles 613 AEG
Hiking3.00 Miles
613 ft AEG
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Jul 18 2015
trailzrus
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67 male
 Joined Jul 24 2009
 Mesa, AZ
Ice Cave Trail #608Alpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
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trailzrus
Hiking3.90 Miles 613 AEG
Hiking3.90 Miles
613 ft AEG
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Apr 05 2015
Randal_Schulhauser
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60 male
 Joined May 14 2003
 Ahwatukee, AZ
Pinetop AZ and Area - April 2015, AZ 
Pinetop AZ and Area - April 2015, AZ
 
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Randal_Schulhauser
Backpack29.32 Miles 2,120 AEG
Backpack29.32 Miles4 Days         
2,120 ft AEG
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Pinetop AZ and Area - April 2015

197 miles, 3hrs 45min per Google Maps

Bob Mohle's country getaway cottage on the outskirts of Pinetop AZ was offered up as an excuse to burn off some forfeitable vacation time. With some backdrop interest in the local history surrounding lumbering/lumberingu railroads, we headed out to the White Mountains with seven basic clues;
Clue #1, Apache Railway :next: azmemory.azlibrary. ... d/34
Clue #2, Apache Railway :next: en.m.wikipedia.org/ ... lway
Clue #3, Apache Railway 2004 :next: trainweb.org/southw ... html
Clue #4, Southwest Lumbering Industries logging train, circa 1910 at Standard AZ in the White Mountains :next: azmemory.azlibrary. ... c/14
Clue #5, White Mountain Scenic Railroad (7 page brochure) :next: archive.library.nau ... 1967
Clue #6, White Mountain Scenic Railroad locomotives :next: air-and-space.com/L ... .htm
Clue #7, Maverick AZ ghost town :next: boards.ancestry.com ... ashx


Day 1 - Sunday April 5th, 2015
FitBit totals = 7.64 miles, 770 AEG (77 floors)

On the road by 3pm after Easter brunch with the family. Arrived at Bob's Pinetop cottage about 7-ish and enjoyed some crisp country air with temperatures expected to drop into the hi 30's later that evening...



Day 2 - Monday April 6th, 2015
FitBit totals = 6.97 miles, 410 AEG (41 floors)

Up at dawn with a loose plan to visit Kinishba Ruins, Fort Apache Historic Park :next: wmat.nsn.us/fortapa ... .htm , Pacheta Lake, Pacheta Falls, and scout out remnants of the logging railway that ran between McNary and the ghost town of Maverick. Flat tire on our way out from Pacheta Falls to Maverick put an end to the exploration (made it back to Pinetop to see NCAA final game tipoff).
Apache Railway that ran from Holbrook to McNary to Maverick :next: azmemory.azlibrary. ... d/34 NOTE: ran as a tourist train during 1960's and 1970's until fire in 1980 (1976 in some references) at the McNary Lumber Mill combined with changes in tribal lumbering policy led to its closure. Ran under brand of White Mountain Scenic Railway.
Maverick ghost town :next: ghosttowns.com/stat ... html
McNary lumber history :next: https://fhsarchives ... lls/
Finish the day with some "Hollywood History" by watching Walter Hill's "GERONIMO - An American Legend" with Wes Studi, Jason Patric, Gene Hackman, Matt Damon, and Robert Duvall :next: imdb.com/title/tt01 ... 004/.
Our visit to Fort Apache and seeing General Crook's cabin made me think that movie would be a great bookend to our day...
Later that night, I find the best historic reference for the Apache Railway, an article from the January 1963 Arizona Highways entitled "First Caboose to Maverick" :next: islandpondrailroad. ... .htm




Day 3 - Tuesday April 7th, 2015
FitBit totals = 9.60 miles, 790 AEG (79 floors)

Up at dawn and after a hearty breakfast, headed over to Greens Peak - Four Knolls area to take in the stellar panoramic views (despite hurricane-like winds). Explored Sunrise Ski Resort area to see if tram to top of mountain was open (everything closed to public). Off to explore the headwaters of the Little Colorado and the Mount Baldy Loop. When we parked at the West Baldy Trail #95 TH, I heard a distinct hissing sound - Another flat tire!
Fortunately I was able to limp back to Pinetop where Rex @ Future Tire (futuretireaz.com ) took care of us. Today's flat was caused by a roofing nail and a simple plug-n-patch repair to the Goodyear Wrangler P275/65R18. Monday's flat was a rock puncture and not repairable. Disappointed with Ford's off-road package tires (these weren't my first off-road flat tires), I let Rex sell me a Cooper Tire Trailcutter AT2 that we mounted as my spare for now as I contemplate what to replace my other 4 tires with (anyone have experience with Cooper Tire Trailcutter AT2's???). A special "shoutout to Louis Weaver (Bob's handyman in Pinetop) who met us as we limped into town just in case we needed a ride
Lugs are 21mm, stock tire wrench lugs 7/8", yet have specialty 21mm wrench in truck
(Shouldn't the 7/8" lugs on truck all be 21mm to fit wrench?)
Back on the road after lunch at Red Devil Pizza :next: reddevilrestaurant.com (Randy and CJ took care of us during lunch) and headed over to Porter Mountain and
Ice Cave Trail #608 :next: [ description ]




Day 4 - Wednesday April 8th, 2015
FitBit totals = 5.11 miles, 150 AEG (15 floors)

On the road home with a stop at the Salt River Canyon...




TOTALS
29.32 miles, 2120 AEG
193 TOTAL IMAGES
85 images on iPhone 5S
87 images on Canon 6D
9 images on Canon 7D
12 images on Canon Rebel XT



HAZ DESTINATIONS
1. Kinishba Ruins :next: [ description ]
2. Fort Apache Historic Park :next: [ description ]
3. Pacheta Lake :next: [ description ]
4. Pacheta Falls :next: [ description ]
5. Maverick Ghost Town :next: [ description ]
6. Railroad Grade Trail :next: [ description ]
7. Greens Peak :next: [ description ]
8. Four Knolls :next: [ description ]
9. Candy Mountain Trail :next: [ description ]
10. Sunrise Park :next: [ description ]
11. West Baldy Trail #95 :next: [ description ]
12. Ice Cave Trail #608 :next: [ description ]
13. Salt River Canyon - AZ60 Crossing :next: [ description ]
14. Upper Salt River :next: [ description ]

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Aug 16 2014
juliachaos
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 Routes 37
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38 female
 Joined Mar 01 2010
 Phoenix, AZ
Blue Ridge Trail #107Alpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
Run/Jog avatar Aug 16 2014
juliachaos
Run/Jog12.75 Miles 1,630 AEG
Run/Jog12.75 Miles
1,630 ft AEG
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This was probably not the best of ideas.

Adam, Liz, and I were all gung-ho to train for the race, so we decided that a weekend in Pinetop would be perfect. We stayed at the cabin, which was a really nice alternative to crashing on a sleeping pad for the nth time.

James joined us for this trip. We decided on this series of trails, since the race would also take place on dirt. Unfortunately, it had rained the night before. The trails were muddy and flooded in places, so in the beginning we tried running on the rocks beside the trails. This led to a few rolled ankles and some very tired legs. Adam and I decided to meet up where the Ice Cave trail was, which didn't seem too far based on the trail markers. Oh, those markers are sooo wrong! I pushed myself onward to finally get to the trail junction, walking a good deal of the way. I found an arrow indicating that Adam had gone down the path, so I continued walking on that path for a really long time, hoping that he would be returning and I wouldn't have to move any farther.

We met up again right before the end of the trail and walked back to the junction. At this point it made more sense to continue the way we were going on Blue Ridge rather than turn back and go up the big hill again. We tried running for a little while and then ran out of water. Eventually it became too much and we began filtering water from puddles through our shirts. We repeated this when we found the creek, and eventually got back to the Springs Trail junction, where James had run back to find us. We'd been about two hours over due and neither of us had cell phones.

This little adventure really set me back. Messed up the IT band in the right leg, which hadn't even been a real problem until then. One month before the race, this was a pretty big concern now. :(
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Jun 21 2014
trailzrus
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67 male
 Joined Jul 24 2009
 Mesa, AZ
Ice Cave Trail #608Alpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
Hiking avatar Jun 21 2014
trailzrus
Hiking3.50 Miles 613 AEG
Hiking3.50 Miles
613 ft AEG
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May 26 2014
nonot
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 Phoenix, AZ
Blue Ridge Trail #107Alpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
Hiking avatar May 26 2014
nonot
Hiking14.10 Miles 2,493 AEG
Hiking14.10 Miles   6 Hrs   7 Mns   2.31 mph
2,493 ft AEG17 LBS Pack
 
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Much warmer day, this trail has a very easy grade but is frustrating in that it isn't very straight. The trail is very well maintained but the views are disappointing. That said the forest is very nice.

Also took the Ice Cave trail to check out the cave. A bit disappointing, not nearly as good as the lava tube in Flagstaff.

Mapped a couple of access trails for future hikers.

Saw clear pools in Billy Thompson Creek, but the creek was not flowing.
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Mar 21 2013
azdesertfather
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 Joined Apr 30 2008
 Tucson, AZ
Ice Cave Trail #608Alpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
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azdesertfather
Hiking10.47 Miles 928 AEG
Hiking10.47 Miles   4 Hrs   14 Mns   2.79 mph
928 ft AEG      29 Mns Break
 
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Nice day out, enjoyed the nice wooded views. Not really any panoramic views on these hikes, although both trails go around Scott Reservoir which is nice.

Took a look into the Ice Cave, nice cold air blasting out of there. Not much to see, though IMO inside.

Took the Osprey out to the Ice Cave Trail, then hiked from end to end of the Ice Cave and back to the Ice Cave-Osprey Junction to take the Osprey back out. So in other words we did an out and back on both trails, end to end.

Much of the route on the Ice Cave is used by the stables at the west TH, bringing groups along the trial on horseback. After all the recent snowmelt and the trail being muddy, it dried and the trail is rutted to pieces. It's chocked full of horse hoof holes, some of them 3-4 inches deep.

The Osprey was named for this bird, having a nesting area near Scott Reservoir when the trail was cut recently as a connector trail. I didn't see an osprey, but I played an osprey call distress sound and a redtail hawk started flying toward me and above me before taking off.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Scott Reservoir 76-100% full 76-100% full
It was full, fuller than usual with all the snowmelt draining in there.
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Jul 14 2012
mt98dew
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 Joined Oct 24 2010
 Phoenix,Az
Ice Cave Trail #608Alpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
Hiking avatar Jul 14 2012
mt98dew
Hiking4.28 Miles
Hiking4.28 Miles   2 Hrs   35 Mns   1.66 mph
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Went on a road trip with my wife and was looking for hike that we could both do. Thanks to HAZ mapping found the Ice Cave Trail that seemed to. Fit the bill. Wasn't sure at first, as soon as we got on the trail we got behind a group of horses. We gave them some time to get ahead of us and it was a non factor for the rest of the hike. The trail was nice and easy to follow, but to be honest we were never sure what trail we were on until we got 1.5 miles in on the hike. At that point we reached a "Y" in the trail. That was first signage that we saw that said what trails were what. (There were no maps at the TH and we had just done a brief read on the trail while we has wi-fi at the hotel), so we had gone in unprepared. There were quite a few side trails along the way, but as long as we followed the blue diamonds that were on the trees, we stayed on the correct trail. Once we got to the "Y", we had to stay on the Blue Ridge Trail dor about .5 miles until we reached the ice cave. There is a fence that surrounds the cave, but the gate was open, so my wife and I we able to reach the opening. It,s amazing how cool it gets in front of the opening!!!!! The weather was ideal. Not much wildlife, though the birds were quite active around Scott's Reservoir.
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Mar 27 2012
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 Joined Apr 02 2005
 Mesa, AZ
Ice Cave Trail #608Alpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
Hiking avatar Mar 27 2012
Tortoise_Hiker
Hiking7.00 Miles 502 AEG
Hiking7.00 Miles   3 Hrs   30 Mns   2.00 mph
502 ft AEG
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I did this hike with a great friend(Tom) of mine.The trail itself is 3.5 miles each way.There are no cairns but there are blue diamonds on the trees from time to time.The Ice Cave is a lttle off trail.The GPS showed it at 2.15 miles.There was a couple tiny streams running and good size one running to Scotts Res.The trail was almost dry from the snow storm a week or two ago.I read somwhere you shouldn't use the trail if it's to muddy.It wasn't but it looks like they did some horseback rides(when it was muddy) as far as the Ice Cave and the trail had Deep hoof prints EVERYWHERE [-X .It was great to get out on a trail and spend a little time with an old friend.Thanks Tom! :D
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Feb 26 2012
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Ice Cave Trail #608Alpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 26 2012
leonesiegel
Hiking4.40 Miles
Hiking4.40 Miles   2 Hrs   30 Mns   2.11 mph
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Did this hike the day after skiing at Sunrise Mtn. Slightly muddy conditions made for some cross country hiking, runoff from snow in the meadows produced lovely streams. According to a description (from another website) we should have found the ice cave shortly after passing by Scott Reservoir but it eluded us. Still a fun hike through the Sitgreaves NF.
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Ice Cave Trail #608Alpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
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Hiking1.00 Miles
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