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Aug 17 2021
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Camp Grasshopper - Mogollon Rim-C/Site#3Payson, AZ
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It had been two months since my last, but shorter week camping / hiking trip to our Mogollon Rim and I was much looking forward to a return, longer 7 night / 8 day (8/17 to 8/24) visit during our very active AZ Monsoon Season this August'21.

I arrived on a Tuesday at 10:30am and with storm clouds already churning, I immediately needed to hustle setting up my always over-the-top and time consuming Camp G/H Campsite. Fortunately I managed to have my two main shelters (Tent and 10x10 Kitchen Screenhouse) up before the sky let loose at 2:30pm and really hardly let up at all for the next twenty-four hours. Except for the off and on overnight and early next morning lighting strikes (one at 6:15am too close for comfort :o ), it was a wonderful first night of R & R :zzz:

I only had two short, close area, day hikes planned for my entire six full days of camping and I was good with that. I am better than most at just tinkering around a camp area and never being bored doing so. At almost age 76 now and slowing down, it was a joy being able to camp for eight days and having really no time schedule to adhere to.

I do believe that I would just live here if I could find a way to keep the ice from not melting and I had a ready supply of fresh H2O :D
(I'm certain in a short period of time I would miss a few other life essentials that I now take for granted, but presently camp ice and water is what mainly gates the length of my trips)
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Jul 24 2021
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Camp Grasshopper - Mogollon Rim-C/Site#3Payson, AZ
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Took the wife and dog and headed up for the night. Last visit up north was a week long trip at the end of may and beginning of June for me. Expecting to see a different forest after our strong start to the monsoon seemed in order. Rain was not going to scare me off although I had prepared for the worst.

Not really going up there with a hike in mind, still had to get some moving in. Being so close to some great off trail hikes I decided to do a little stroll down into barbershop. Lots of fungus and water in babershop (some of which was flowing) right now. Luckily my hike didn't have any bad weather but the humidity was a bit much. Saturday evening we heard thunder a few different times but nothing ever managed to hit the area. Early Sunday morning that changed around 1am with on/off rain showers, sometimes pretty heavy, hitting the tent. Haven't slept that good in a long time, wish I could have spent one more night out there.

Relaxing trip, very nice campsite which was very clean, minus one 20 gauge shell casing, the cap to a propane bottle, and a live round of 223 which appeared to be very old. Very nice to see people are respecting this area. Site 2 was occupied by a couple when we arrived and were leaving about the same time that we left Sunday morning.
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Camp Grasshopper - Mogollon Rim-C/Site#3Payson, AZ
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My middle Granddaughter from TX, now a Sophomore at The University of Arkansas (a Razorback 🙌) and hopefully to soon be accepted in their highly accredited School of Nursing, has been interested for a few years in visiting her Grandpa in AZ for a planned summer week "Camp Grasshopper" Camping/Hiking Trip to our Mogollon Rim. This would be her very first ever- remote, primitive, multi-night tent camping trip in the woods at 7435ft elevation :)

We began planning this trip over nine months ago which gave me plenty of time to deal with all the necessary planning, logistics, and gathering for her of all the necessary duplication of additional vehicle camping and hiking gear to hopefully assure a safe, fun, rewarding, and successful week trip to my Arizona high country most favorite place to camp and hike this time of year.

Airplane tickets to AZ were confirmed about 5 weeks prior-to our planned Mogollon Rim exit early morning on Wed-6/16 and we had numerous text and phone conversations to further confirm other necessary details. My biggest concern for a successful trip was whether or not the Coconino NF might close the forest due to extreme fire danger. As the weeks passed prior-to my Granddaughter's arrival on Mon-6/14, I watched the forest fire restrictions go from Stage 1, then to Stage 2 :sweat:

Also, we would need two vehicles for this trip- my older Toyota 4Runner fully loaded with all my normal camping/hiking stuff + I needed to coordinate borrowing my old, highly modified '92YJ Jeep Wrangler (the original "Grasshopper") that I had gifted to some local good friends of mine back in YR2016. The plan was that I would drive my old, open "Grasshopper" (without a spare tire and with the 4 tires on the ground being at least 15+ years old) and my Granddaughter would drive my 4Runner behind me for the trip up and back. For a first time, she would also be driving 16 miles of off-pavement, narrow with blind turns Rim Road (FR300) 8-[ .

Our departure date for the Mogollon Rim on 6/16am arrived with the Coconino NF still at Stage 2, but this very same afternoon, after our safe late morning arrival at Camp Grasshopper #3, the lighting ignited Backbone Wild Fire with high winds erupted this same day 12 miles West of Strawberry, AZ (at the [ Ikes Backbone ] area).

We had an awesome, outstanding 4nts/5days camping, R&R, good food, and valuable time together sharing wonderful memories (new and old) which included 2.5 days of hiking.. three different on trail and off trail hike areas that I was looking forward to introducing to my Granddaughter. I am so very impressed with her much appreciated help around the campsite (setup/teardown/pack up) and her natural hiking ability on and off trail with a great sense of humor when things did not go as planned. For a first time extended stay, primitive camping/hiking trip, Granddaughter--> :yr:

On our exit day, Sun-6/20, all our preferred exit routes back home (Hwy 87 and Hwy 260) were closed due to the still raging Backbone Wild Fire. We exited the Rim on the only route available which was to continue an additional 32 miles South and East on the Rim Road to Woods Canyon Lake at Hwy 260 then West to Payson to Hwy 87 South.. We stopped in Payson for Mexican Food and Ice Tea before I had to endure 116F driving the open Grasshopper Jeep back to South Scottsdale. I was pretty much wasted upon home arrival with two loaded vehicles in our outside furnace that needed unloading.. without even me asking for help, my Granddaughter proceeded to unload both :worthy: thank you!

This trip was meant to be and timing was everything. As it turned-out, our planned trip return was on 6/20 and on 6/23 the Coconino National Forest went to a Stage 3 status which closed the entire NF.
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May 29 2021
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Merritt - Barbershop Short LoopPayson, AZ
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I was on a 2 night campout on the Mogollon Rim with my 10 year old Grandson, Michael, and his Dad, Lloyd, over the Memorial Weekend. We camped at our favorite spot, Camp Grasshopper #3 down FR 139C on the rim of Barbershop Canyon. This spot has been a favorite place on the rim for Lloyd and daughter Elizabeth to take their family camping over the last 9 years since Lloyd and I first met Grasshopper in July 2012 when he was camped at Camp GH #3 and we were camped about 0.2 miles away at Camp GH #2.

Michael wanted to explore Barbershop Canyon so I dusted off an old gps track from 2015 which would lead us directly to the bottom of the canyon from camp. From there we would take the loop going down Barbershop Canyon and then coming back up Merritt Draw. I was concerned about taking Michael down the very steep and somewhat treacherous canyon side at that location. GH prefers a safer route about a quarter mile up canyon but I've always liked shortcuts and had taken this route back in 2015. As it turned out, the only one of the three of us that I should have been worried about was me. Both Michael and Lloyd scampered down the steep slope finding a doable route while I was carefully creeping and butt sliding my way to the bottom. I don't recommend this route for climbing out of the canyon.

We took our time taking in the beauty of this canyon and for Michael finding challenges to his budding climbing ability at every opportunity. Elk trails provided convenient routes around log jams and dead fall. There was a trickle of water flowing down the stream with only occasional stretches of dry creek bed. The pools got larger and more frequent as we neared the U-Bar Trail crossing and many of the pools had schools of minnows and a few larger fish up to about 10 inches long. There appeared to be two different species among the larger fish. The most abundant appeared very dark in color, almost black, with a wide red stripe running the full length of its sides. These did not appear to be trout. The second type of which there were very few were definitely trout, probably rainbow, based on examining a photo taken by Lloyd.

The lower part of Merritt Draw had lots of dead fall blocking passage up the bottom of the canyon. There were Elk trails around many of these obstacles, some requiring detours up the steep sided canyon walls. Some required crawling under or over fallen logs. All these obstacles and the warm afternoon temperatures were depleting what little energy I had left but Michael and Lloyd seemed unfazed. The creek bed was mostly dry but there were a few pools and small trickles of water coming out of two springs on the hillside. The largest pool was at Drift Fence Spring, a popular watering hole for wild critters.

Back at camp we all agreed that this had been the best hike we'd taken from Camp GH over the years of coming here.
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This was our first hike of a two night stay during Memorial Day weekend at Camp Grasshopper - Mogollon Rim-C/Site3 with my Son-in-Law and Grandson. We arrived at the campsite late Friday morning. After setting up camp we took this loop hike from camp through the meadows in upper Merritt Draw. We started out taking the closed road FR9735p from FR139C to Merritt Draw then up the draw to the meadows. This seems to be a favorite area for elk and we were not disappointed coming upon a small herd which quickly disappeared. This was a familiar hike for the three of us having done it together at least twice before during family camps on previous Memorial Day weekends and it's always a pleaser. After returning to camp Son-in-Law Lloyd set out a table full of snacks rivaling Grasshopper's after-hike offerings. Not to be out done, Grandpa later prepared a dinner of carne asada fajitas. It was a great start to the weekend.
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I decided to head up to the Rim for a couple of days of hiking and one night of car camping at Camp Grasshopper Site #2. After setting up camp, we hiked over to Pinchot Cabin and back. When we got back to the campsite we decided to climb up the ridge to the west of the campsite and check out the Merritt Draw Riparian Area.

It was a nice day to be hiking up on the Rim. We saw a mountain biker at Pinchot Cabin, but did not see anyone else all day. At Pinchot Cabin we started hiking on the Houston Brothers Trail, thinking that we might go back to the campsite that way. However, after a bit of reflection, I figured that route would be longer than I wanted, so after a short distance on the Houston Brothers Trail, we turned around and went back the way that we came.

The Merritt Draw Riparian Area was really nice and is worthy of some more exploration.

The campsite was clean except for some TP that some moron had left not too far from the fire ring. You'd think that people could do better than that, but I guess not.

This is a nice area, and I hope to get back there later in the summer.
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Sep 30 2020
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For me, like for many of us, it's been a long, hot, and sometimes frustrating Summer'20. I did manage to get-away back here in June of this year which was good, but my grand plans for a week trip back in August just did not allow.

I do enjoy our Autumn Season :FG: on the Mogollon Rim and during this season I have not camped here for a number of years. So, my next camping window plan was for this late September into the first week of October to hopefully take advantage of some Big Tooth Maple colors and some much cooler day-night-morning temperatures at 7400 to 7700ft.

My planned normal 3 hour & 15 minute, 126 mile drive-up on Wed-9/30 (for 7nts/8days stay) started a little "iffy":
(good thing I was on the road before 7am)
.. Lost 25 minutes being stopped by the Salt River Reservation Police for driving the wrong way in a construction zone and driving 37mph in a 25mph zone :sweat: .. fortunately, I scored only a warning ticket;
.. Lost 5 minutes on Hwy 87N to Payson due to construction at the Mount Ord area;
.. Lost 20 minutes North of Payson due to having to wait for the assigned ADOT Pilot car for the Hwy 87 one way lane Blacktopping all the way to Pine;
.. Knowing better with a HAZ forum topic posted on FR300 road maintenance, I decided to drive the Rim Road (FR300) for the needed 26 miles instead of continuing on Hwy 87N for the additional 18 miles to FR95 for the back way in (I drove about 10+ uneventful miles in on FR300 and suddenly met driving the opposite direction on a one way section, three HUGE semi-type gravel trucks :o Fortunately, I only had to back-up about 100 yards to connect with the intersection of FR141 (which I knew eventually connected with Hwy 87, but I had no idea of the extra mileage nor where on Hwy 87 it connected. As it turned-out, this FR300 mistake cost me one additional hour drive and an additional 35 miles to my campsite). I should have arrived at ~10am but did not arrive until after 11:30am. I finished putting-up Camp Grasshopper just before sunset :D

It was unseasonable warm for the first week of October at 7435ft elevation. The coolest night-early morning was 37F with most periods in the mid to low 40F. The days were unseasonable highs as well in the mid 70F to low 80F..more like early-mid June temps than early October but still beautiful and welcomed!

Also, I was pleased to have HAZ members and friends Oregon_Hiker and longtime hiker/camper/member, lurker blk join me for some days of this enjoyable 8 day stay. I/we did five short area hikes with two of which- Upper Bill McClintock Draw and Upper Buck Spring Canyon having extreme, prime Autumn Big Tooth Maple colors :FG:
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God help anybody who doesn't have a masters degree in Hazology to figure out where they've hiked here. Is it Merritt Draw Loop Lower or Merritt Draw Loop Mid-Lower? Or maybe just Merritt Draw? Is it a riparian area? :-k

It's a good thing I didn't look these things up ahead of time or I'd still be trying to figure them out and missed out on the hiking altogether! :sweat:

Kudos to @oregon_hiker who descended into Barbershop directly from Camp Grasshopper Mogollon Rim-C/Site#3 (don't worry, I linked that one too!). That's a steep and sketchy descent. One and done for that approach, thanks!

The canyon is pretty dry. Plenty of water, but not continual. We took a break at the U-Bar junction before heading up Merritt Draw (Lower?). There was no water in Merritt for the first mile but slowly more pools appeared which was great for Roshi to swim and cool off on what was a slightly warm day up there. Still beats the valley.

It was nice to cruise on the closed-to-driving road 9735P after miles of rock hopping in the canyon bottoms. It's nice to explore these drainages, and I don't think I had done this stretch before.

[I edited the 4,177 feet of gain that apparently I recorded :roll: ]
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I decided to escape the heat of the VOS, so I headed up to the Mogollon Rim to hike and car camp in an area that I had not been to before.

I drove up to Camp Grasshopper Site #2, and got my tent set up. Then I decided to hike north on FR 139C, following the Merritt Draw Lower Loop, and for a short ways the Merritt Draw Middle Loop and Maverick Canyon Loop. After a couple of miles or so I got to the end of 139C, and descended off-trail down to Merritt Draw. After the descent I was across from the Ubar Trail at a nice spring, with a pool of water deep enough to swim in had I been so inclined.

Then I followed the Merritt Draw Lower GPS track up Merritt Draw. The track went uphill after a ways, but it was really overgrown with some thorn bushes. I was wearing a short sleeve shirt with no gloves, and since I really wasn't looking to donate a pint of blood, I backtracked a bit and found a route up between cliffs. It was a bit steep in a couple of places, but it wasn't TOO bad. I then went south, in between FR 139C and @grasshopper's GPS track. I had intended to make my way back to @grasshopper's route, but there was some deadfall in front of me, and I decided to take the easy way, so I went uphill a bit back to FR 139C.

On the way back to the campsite I stopped to check out campsite #3 and campsite #2.5. Campsite #3 was almost, but not quite, as nice as campsite #2. Campsite #2.5 was also nice, but it did not have all the amenities of Campsite #2. Which is why @grasshopper charges less for site 2.5, so it has some appeal to more budget minded campers. otoh, @grasshopper charges an arm and leg for site #2, so you'd better have some deep pockets to stay there!...lol...I am just kidding of course!

Once I got back to Campsite #2, I walked up the hill on the other side of FR 139C, just to check it out. However, I decided to save any further exploration for another day.

This is a nice area, and I plan to come back and explore some more of Merritt Draw, and also hike on some of the Cabin Loop to check out the Pinchot Cabin and Buck Springs Fire Guard Station.
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Jun 11 2020
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I visited Grasshopper for three nights at his camp on FR139C on the Mogollon Rim to escape the valley heat and enjoy this forested retreat. GH decided to take a day of rest in camp on the first day while I started off from camp on a hike to explore the ridge above the west side of Barbershop Canyon. An old long abandoned logging road follows the top of the ridge between FR139C and the canyon and was my guide for the beginning of the hike.

I soon tired of the ridge top scenery and found a likely route down the side of the canyon after studying the topo map on my gps. Although steep, the descent was not all that challenging. I was soon hiking up the creek bed with the plan to continue up the bottom of the canyon until reaching the Barbershop Trail #91 and following it to FR139. There were numerous pools of water with water trickling down the stream bed between pools. In some areas the flowing water retreated below the surface leaving the stream bed dry. The lush green of ferns and grass on the stream bank and the shade of towering pine, spruce, fir and the occasional Aspen trees made this a most pleasant escape from the hot desert of the valley. Some rock hopping and the occasional detour around fallen trees were required but the hike was otherwise an easy stroll on elk trails along the stream bank.

I stopped frequently to take photos of the scenery with my new cell phone (a Samsung Galaxy S10E) and with my old standby, a Nikon P600, to later compare photos. The cell phone has two cameras, one with a "normal" lens, and one with a wide angle lens. Both provide a wider view than the Nikon but there is no optical telephoto zoom on the cell phone where the Nikon excels with a 60x zoom. I soon found that having the wide angle capability of the cell phone cameras and its photo quality in difficult lighting situations made it my top choice for most scenery shots. But, for me, also having the zoom capability of the Nikon is a necessity. So not a problem, I'll just carry both on my hikes.

The section of the Barbershop Trail to FR139 is mostly through thick forest as it climbs up to the road. Barbershop Spring had a trickle of water, maybe about 0.5 gpm. A huge cow elk tried to sneak by me in the dense forest near the trail and disappeared before I could get a photo. Once reaching the road I abandoned my original plan to follow the top of the ridge between Merritt Draw and instead hike down FR139C back to camp. FR139C, in my opinion, is one of the most beautiful back roads on the Mogollon Rim. It follows a spring fed draw with lush meadows and forest much better viewed when walking than from a moving car. I've been down this road many times over the last 10 years on the way to Camp GH and it's like going home.

Back at camp, GH informed me that our camp had been visited by a bear during my absence, @AZWanderingBear, to be exact. Wade returned for a visit shortly after I got back to camp. I hadn't seen him since a backpacking trip to Reavis Ranch in Oct. 2015. It was great to see him and catch up on his latest outdoor adventures.
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Camp Grasshopper - Mogollon Rim-C/Site#3Payson, AZ
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My overall favorite AZ area campsite to be during the Summer months of June-July-August. It had been a long overdue full year since my last planned Vehicle camping / hiking / R&R trip here.

Like for many of us, this past four months period, March'20 through June'20, has been a difficult period to go through with the AZ Covid-19 Pandemic restrictions/risks to deal with. During this period I also had a few planned and unplanned medical procedures, issues to recover from, so this planned 8day / 7night (6/10 to 6/17) trip back to a favorite place to unwind was high priority.

This June'20 week visit I decided to stay until the ice melted and/or the water ran out :) I was fortunate that Oregon_Hiker (Larry) surprised me with a three night visit and some extra ice and water to share upon his departure which would guarantee me at least my planned 8 days. We also hiked one day together to check out a number of the closer Cabin Loop area perennial springs. Another day I did one other recommended, nice, short, loop hike [ Merritt Draw Loop (Middle) - Mogollon Rim ] from camp and will soon post triplogs and picsets for all. Gps Routes have already been posted for these hike days 6/12 and 6/14.

I much enjoyed this long overdue week visit escape to 7435ft with enjoyable early morning temps from 40F to 54F and daytime temps never over 80F 👍 I did do just a little wilderness Camp GH cooking as well (see picset), which for me is always great therapy with my only disappointment being that my 8 days away here went way too fast.



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Jun 12 2019
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In my opinion, June is the best month (no rain, awesome temps, with lush flowing canyon creek drainages) to spend some extended time on our Mogollon Rim and I've been doing so now for a number of years to also include week visits the months of Monsoon July-August and Autumn late September.

This planned trip with Oregon_Hiker who was also interested in joining me became somewhat more complicated by the timing of the Mogollon Rim Ranger District's lighting strike, controlled burn ~17.5k acre "Coldwater Fire" [ Coldwater Fire - Mogollon Rim Ranger District ] which was active with driving road restrictions during Larry and my planned but different arrival dates.

Larry drove up late Sun-6/9 to hopefully avoid any road fire closures at Hwy 87 / Rim Road FR300 and I had planned to drive up early morning on Wed-6/12 which was more risky. As it turned out, we were both able to pass through this controlled intersection without a delay, but when I arrived Hwy87 / FR300 at 8AM, with my headlights on I could barely view the one Forest Service guy that was directing traffic at this location :sweat: He pulled me over and asked me where I was headed on FR300? He looked at my vehicle, viewed my tires, and noted my 70qt cooler in the passenger seat and he could not see back past my front seat..lol.., then I said "16.3 miles down FR300". His eyes opened wide with a slight hesitation, then he said "be careful". On the first 2-3 miles on FR300 there were tree stumps still on fire on the controlled burn side of the road with absolutely no one around for my entire 16.3 mile drive.. I considered myself lucky to drive through on this day!

Originally three other HAZers (Trishness, BLK, nonot) were invited to join Oregon_Hiker and me, but the "Coldwater Fire" complications, bad FR300 driving conditions, and other planned commitments allowed Larry and me extra space to enjoy this area for a week all to ourselves. On Thurs-6/13, we had an unexpected surprise visit by our HAZ- MountainMatt who had been exploring for the day within the Barbershop Canyon and surrounding areas hunting for shedder Elk Racks and he again hit the jackpot [ photo ] so I thought the least I could do after a hard day of off-trail exploring was to feed him! :D

Another overall awesome week Summer escape at 7435ft from our PHX area furnace with a wonderful week of relaxation, some hiking, good weather, good food, and good memories! 👍
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76 male
 Joined Dec 28 2006
 Scottsdale, AZ
Camp Grasshopper - Mogollon Rim-C/Site#3Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Car Camping avatar Jul 18 2018
Grasshopper
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Car Camping6 Days         
 
Six nights / Seven days at my favorite place to be on our Mogollon Rim. Monsoon Rains on Wed-7/18 arrival day 10:30am which made for a more challenging "Camp Grasshopper" setup, but got it all done before sunset :)

Lots of cooking with R & R at 7435ft and cooler temps with only three short area hikes planned. Nice to visit again with HAZ-BeeBee (Brian) who arrived on Sat-7/21 afternoon to Sun-7/22 late morning. Brian towed in his very cool custom built camping trailer with custom, high end pop-up tent.. an impressive setup that Brian designed and built.


On the Merritt Draw Riparian Area hike Sat-7/21am, prior-to reaching perineal Merritt Spring, there was a large cow elk that managed to lock itself into the first large Riparian enclosure [ photo ] along this hiking route. It appeared to have been in this large rectangular, 8ft high enclosure for a number of days with enough vegetation to eat, but with no water source available. On my unplanned and unexpected drive to/back from Strawberry, AZ, this same Sat-7/21 afternoon, on FR95 (my late afternoon drive back to Camp G/H), at around 4pm I was able to stop a Ranger from the Mogollon Rim Ranger District and communicate this cow elk's location details. He said he would later contact AZ Game & Fish with the details. Two kind, courtesy kudos for me this day 👍 the first of which driving to Strawberry, AZ, turned-out to be very stressful & risky for me.
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Merritt Spring

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Merritt Spring Dripping Dripping
Minimal spring water present in the constructed old spring box but enough seepage to filter with an extended filter tube;
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Aug 23 2017
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76 male
 Joined Dec 28 2006
 Scottsdale, AZ
Camp Grasshopper - Mogollon Rim-C/Site#3Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Car Camping avatar Aug 23 2017
Grasshopper
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I had such an enjoyable and relaxing seven day visit this past July at my favorite AZ Mogollon Rim campsite (at 7435ft) that I decided to do it again in August (from Wed-8/23 to Tues-8/29/17) :)

For this August trip I invited a good friend (from East Mesa) and her partner (from Payson) whom I had originally met from my earlier 2005-2006 AZ camping/hiking days as an active member of Arizona Outdoor Travel Club (AOTC). AOTC & HAZ-blk and I have continued to be good friends but with her very active outdoor (local & worldwide) travel schedule, I was not able until this August to find a camping period that fit both our schedules.

As has been the case for the last few visits and this trip no exception, I had planned more tinkering around camp, R&R, and good eats cooking than area day hiking, but we still managed to do a couple nice area off-trail loop hikes:
[ Barbershop Cyn Upper - Merritt Draw Upper Loop ]
[ Bear Canyon Upper - West Bear Canyon Loop ]

For this Mogollon Rim monsoon season there was less daily/nightly rain than I had on my previous July'17 week visit. Both July and August trips provided moderate daily temps and comfortable nightly sleeping being serenaded by bugling elk and howling coyotes in close Barbershop Canyon and Merritt Draw.
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Jul 19 2017
Grasshopper
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76 male
 Joined Dec 28 2006
 Scottsdale, AZ
Camp Grasshopper - Mogollon Rim-C/Site#3Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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Grasshopper
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It had been almost to the day, one full year since I had been back to camp at my favorite "Happy Place" in the woods at 7435ft.

This visit for a planned 6 nights / 7 days (Wed-7/19 to Tues-7/25) I had no agenda except to relax, read some, cook/clean, eat some :) , and just waste time tinkering around camp which I am very good at doing. I also knew this trip would be a wet one (and it was) due to being here in the middle of our summer Mogollon Rim Monsoon Season but this I was looking forward too. As long as I am able to setup my campsite without rain on my arrival day and on departure day teardown and pack it all up without rain then all is good..and..all was good!

One thing I did have to look forward too for the week was a day visit at Camp Grasshopper with my friends from Scottsdale who now own my old "Grasshopper 92YJ Jeep Wrangler". They had previously accepted my invite to join me for a Saturday afternoon visit to "Camp Grasshopper" with a planned short hike from camp to Merritt Draw/Merritt Spring and a mid-afternoon Grasshopper cooked meal. It was a grand day and I much enjoyed their family of four visit.
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Oct 04 2016
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76 male
 Joined Dec 28 2006
 Scottsdale, AZ
Mogollon Rim - Autumn 2016, AZ 
Mogollon Rim - Autumn 2016, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Oct 04 2016
Grasshopper
Hiking2.30 Miles 279 AEG
Hiking2.30 Miles   2 Hrs   21 Mns   1.45 mph
279 ft AEG      46 Mns Break
 
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Not many hiking miles clocked today nor AEG, and a very long day with out and back driving miles, but so worth it for a beautiful cool, blue sky, Mogollon Rim day with plentiful Prime Autumn "Big Tooth Maple" colors :FG:

A longtime friend of mine, a HAZ member, and a very active Arizona Outdoor Travel Club (AOTC) hiking member was interested in joining me for this Autumn day trip. Since all the areas I had hoped to hike were in the same general area, I thought it would be a nice idea to first visit my favorite Mogollon Rim vehicle campsite which my friend had not previously seen.

I had four prime Autumn locations on my visit agenda this day, but one of the main ones I had hoped to view- Bear Canyon West Fork [ description ] , was presently closed for access due to the now active and managed "Pinchot Fire" viewtopic.php?t=9722 .

So, as it turned-out, with the 3.5 hour drive up and a short visit to my favorite campsite #3, we really only had enough prime daylight time to visit the following three Big Tooth Maple areas noted below with hike descriptions linked above:

(see posted 10/4/16 GPS Routes and Photo Sets for)-
.. Upper Maverick Canyon- Autumn'16 [ photoset ]
.. Upper Bill McClintock Draw- Autumn'16 [ photoset ]
.. Upper Buck Spring Canyon- Autumn'16 [ photoset ]


A special and rewarding day to visit our Mogollon Rim !!
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Autumn Foliage Observation Substantial
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Jul 23 2016
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63 female
 Joined Nov 17 2008
 phoenix, az
Camp Grasshopper - Mogollon Rim-C/Site#3Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Jul 23 2016
trekkin_gecko
Hiking5.50 Miles 515 AEG
Hiking5.50 Miles
515 ft AEG
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my first trip to camp grasshopper :)
angela drove us up on the rim, arriving early afternoon
mary jo was already up there at site #2
set up camp, visited a bit with hank, then set out to do a hike into meritt draw
nearby lightning prompted us to cut the hike short, climbing over the ridge directly west of camp
angela, hank and i went for a walk on forest 139c after skies cleared up
wanted to go to the end where it overlooks the confluence of merritt draw and barbershop canyon, but we would have finished in the dark, so we turned back after about a mile and a half
relaxing afternoon and evening with some mellow hikes
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Jul 20 2016
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76 male
 Joined Dec 28 2006
 Scottsdale, AZ
Camp Grasshopper - Mogollon Rim-C/Site#3Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Car Camping avatar Jul 20 2016
Grasshopper
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For mid-June I had planned a week trip up here and had some invites to join me. Due to some unexpected CA family needs I was not able to attend but fortunately Oregon Hiker, RWStorm, and Tough Boots were :)

Not being able to go up in June, it was kind-of mandatory that I "get-out-of-Dodge" to this favorite Mogollon Rim camp-spot for a week in July for mostly R&R with two planned (new for me) loop hikes on my agenda. I knew that this July camping location at 7435ft elevation was going to be wet due to our always active Monsoon Season on the Rim but I did not anticipate for the 8 nights / 9 days I was here this trip (a new Camp G/H vehicle camping record for me), that it would storm on six days of the nine.

I had originally planned to exit back on Tues-7/26 but ended up with my second planned loop hike on this day.. with rain. My campsite was soaked with my afternoon return and I needed a full day after for it to dry-out. Fortunately, this Wednesday day after was beautiful and without rain which allowed me to have a dry campsite to take down, pack, and load on my 9th morning..Thurs-7/28 (My thanks to Brian on 7/24 for the extra 10# bag of ice and to Mary Jo on 7/25 for the extra 3 gallons of H2O or I would not have made it for this nine day period).. Prior-to the extra 3 gallons, I had originally brought-up 23 gallons of H2O (all the cooking & cleaning at Camp G/H uses a whole lot of water :D )

I really enjoyed this longer stay and having Angela, Kelly, and Mary-Jo stay over for 2 nights/3 days with a short day visit by BeeBee- Brian.
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Jun 17 2016
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75 male
 Joined Dec 07 2010
 Phoenix, AZ
Merritt Draw Short Loop, AZ 
Merritt Draw Short Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jun 17 2016
Oregon_Hiker
Hiking3.20 Miles 653 AEG
Hiking3.20 Miles
653 ft AEG
 
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Randy and I went for a short loop hike over to Merritt Draw from Camp Grasshopper on FR139C to stretch our legs after sitting in camp spinning yarns for half the day. We took the short cut over the top of the ridge which goes through a cell phone hot spot. Once in the Merritt Draw meadow we walked at a leisurely pace up the draw stopping to check out the remains of an old stream gage and the now defunct solar powered electric fence riparian enclosure. I pulled the old trick of grabbing the wire by the electric fence sign and going into shock convulsions but Randy wasn't buying the act - funny, it fooled my grandkids last time I was here.

Then it was back over the ridge to FR139C which we followed back to camp. A medium sized Mercedes Benz RV pulling a trailer with a side-by-side ATV came down the road - first time I've seen a rig that large this far down FR139C. They stopped to ask where we were camped and were disappointed to find out we had already staked out the Camp Grasshopper site - said we had gotten the best camp site along that road. Evidently they have frequented that camp site before. They went on down the road and came back out a few minutes later - not sure where they found room to turn that thing around. We got back to camp just in time for the late afternoon happy hour. Unfortunately there was no Grasshopper there with his usual spread of snacks.
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64 male
 Joined Mar 28 2008
 Phoenix, AZ
Camp Grasshopper - Mogollon Rim-C/Site#3Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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Tough_Boots
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I was invited to some time at Camp Grasshopper but unfortunately Grasshopper could not make it. A friend of mine in Tucson decided to come along with me for some backpacking so we headed up to the Rim after I got off of work. We met up with Larry and Randy for a little camping time. It was great to finally meet both of them. That pair is quite a wealth of knowledge!
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