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Aug 21 2019
LJW
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25 male
 Joined Jun 02 2019
 Phoenix, AZ
Chiricahua & Monte Vista Peak LoopTucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
Hiking avatar Aug 21 2019
LJW
Hiking21.54 Miles 5,777 AEG
Hiking21.54 Miles   7 Hrs   15 Mns   3.19 mph
5,777 ft AEG      30 Mns Break
 
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Wanted to do a loop and visit Chiricahua and Monte Vista Peaks and decided it wouldn't be too far out of the way to add in Fly's Peak. Because of the trail conditions/loss of mapped trails, this one was a more difficult than I anticipated.

Drove up Turkey Creek Road and saw my low tire pressure light came on. Parked at the forest boundary and couldn't hear any air escaping from the tires, so I figured I'd be fine. Left the car there and headed up the road.

Took Mormon Ridge up. This one is overgrown especially once the trail reaches the pines. Sharp bushes and grass crowd the trail. Wanted to take the trail toward Fly's Peak where it intersects with Mormon Canyon, but that stretch of the trail is gone. It would be possible to navigate along it's old course and what's left of the cut, but it is overgrown to the point of nonexistence and had serious deadfall. Decided to take the only available ascending trail toward Chiricahua Saddle. This section is very overgrown as well with minor deadfall, but it's there.

Took the Crest Trail toward Fly's Peak. Trail is very thin until Cima Park. After that the trail is wide and clear until Round Park. A lot of Wildflowers on this section of the Crest Trail. Made it to the sign for the Fly's Peak Trail to find that this one is gone too, but it's a simple walk up through the grass. The trail does appear toward the top, but most of the ascent from the south has been lost. Seems like the trails from the north are alright. Fly's Peak/Round Park is a beautiful area, but the views from Fly's were the weakest of the day's three peaks.

Backtracked to the Chiricahua Peak Trail which gets just enough traffic to push the grasses down and maintain a slim trail. Very quick ascent. The top is very peaceful, and to me it's worth the trip. I would say I was undersold on this one.

The trail off the peak to Aspen Saddle mostly does not exist anymore. It's an easy off trail walk down though, through some really nice forest. Chiricahua Saddle Trail/Crest Trail 270D is in bad condition. It's sliding off the mountain on the backside of Chiricahua and is woefully overgrown. Spent a lot of energy just trying to stay balanced. Had a hard time staying on the trail in parts. That said, the views from here are some of the best of the loop.

The Crest Trail from Chiricahua Saddle to Monte Vista is tricky. It's overgrown with grass, but the grade is mostly still there if you look hard enough. It fades in and out, never more than a thin strip between the grasses. Would be tough without GPS. Easy to get off trail here. This was perhaps the most beautiful section of trail.

Monte Vista LO was unmanned and locked. If it's open, I imagine it's one of the only peaks in the Chiricahuas where you can get above the treeline. Still a very interesting place worth the trip regardless.

Morse Canyon has been worked since I was here in late October of last year. It was the only trail that seems to have been worked in the past few years. It's currently in great condition. At the top of Morse Canyon there were ~30 5gallon water jugs covered in taped cardboard. I imagine those aren't left for desperate hikers.

Never seen so much bear scat on a trip, especially on Mormon Ridge and Crest around Chiricahua Saddle/Monte Vista. The bears in AZ aren't too fearsome, but I wouldn't do this without the peace of mind of having some kind of defense.

Being unfamiliar with the area, I wouldn't do this without some navigation system either. The area is properly remote. I didn't see a soul the whole day, and not one of the campsites was occupied.

Turkey Creek road is liable to hold water in two parts as well. I left just as the rain was starting to pour high on the mountains, and the water was flowing into these sections of the road even before the rain had come that far down. Would have been impassible by my passenger car. The road is extremely well graded though, and when dry it is good all the way to the end at Morse Canyon.
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Wildflowers Observation Substantial
Heavy wildflowers along parts of Crest and in Cima/Round Park, moderate the rest of the trip. None in Morse Canyon.
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Jul 25 2019
markthurman53
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66 male
 Joined Jun 27 2015
 Tucson, Arizona
Buena Vista and Flys Peak, AZ 
Buena Vista and Flys Peak, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jul 25 2019
markthurman53
Hiking11.39 Miles 2,788 AEG
Hiking11.39 Miles   5 Hrs   38 Mns   2.16 mph
2,788 ft AEG      22 Mns Break15 LBS Pack
 
1st trip
My first trip into the Chiricahua Mountains (not counting Chiricahua National Monument) and I was impressed. I think I liked it more the the Pinaleno Mountains. The only down side was the 12 mile dirt road up and the 13 mile dirt road down to Portal. The up side is it means less traffic. This mountain has enough trails to keep me occupied for years to come, kind of like the Superstitions in that respect. On this trip I spent two days hiking the trails along the crest but later in the year when it cools off a bit the lower trails will become a little more doable.

On the first day I started along the crest Trail at the Barfoot Road Trail Head. The trails along the crest are not well maintained but They are in good condition and easy to follow, Well signed with very little overgrowth and a minimum of dead fall across the trails. I'm sure lower down on the mountain the trails are rockier but up here they weren't. Forest regrowth after the fires years ago (not sure what year) is coming along nicely even though the scars of the fire can still be seen. It looks like the recovery cycle is doing better here than in the Pinaleno Mountains, but that could be a subjective statement.

My first side trip was up to Buena Vista Peak to the Barfoot Look out. There is no look out there just the foundation. In keeping with the peak name there are great views. Barfoot Park below and Barfoot Peak to the north along with Cochise Head and Dos Cabezas. Mount Graham would be visible if it weren't monsoon season. From the peak I headed down to Barfoot Park and Barfoot Spring, very pleasant area. The name Barfoot is a bit strange, I wonder if it is some southern mountain mans pronunciation of bear, like Bar Wallow, I'm going bar hunting or does a bar poop in the woods. I headed back up to the crest trail and headed toward Rustler Park. Never understood why they call these high mountain meadows parks, I always expect to see slides and swings and always leave disappointed.

I took the Bootleggers trail near Rustlers Park down .7 miles to the Rock Creek Trail and took that back up to the Crest Trail at Bootlegger Saddle. These trails are a bit faint and in need of maintenance but with a good eye they are easy enough to follow and every so often a rock cairn will reassure. Both these trails will need further investigating but will have to wait for cooler weather as they head down the west slopes of the Chiricahua Mountain.

Back on the Crest Trail I headed to Flys Peak. The Crest Trail from Bootlegger Saddle passes along the west side of Riggs Peak and then to Flys Saddle. At Flys Saddle four trails intersect, Long Park Trail, Centella Trail, Flys Peak Trail and the Crest Trail. Flys Saddle is covered in young aspen trees about 10 to 20 feet tall, part of the recovery process. The Flys Peak Trail is .8 miles to the summit. Not terribly great views from there because of the trees but the view along the crest to the South is Pretty Good. Raspberries and flowers were numerous. I was able to eat all the berries I wanted this time, I had no doctors procedure that required that I not eat things with seeds in them. On the return trip I headed back down the Crest Trail to Rustlers Park and took the road back to the start point along Barfoot Road.

The weather cooperated nicely on this hike, cloud build up but no rain. Temperatures in the mid 70's. Looks like a couple areas got rain the night before but didn't look like too much. There was water at Barfoot Park at the spring but along the Crest Trail I didn't see any. Probably at some of the named springs along the trail but I didn't check them out. I will take the 13 mile dirt road down the East side of the Mountain to Portal and stay at the Portal Cafe and lodge. I was really impressed with Cave Creek on the way to Portal, magnificent rock formations. This will be an interesting area to hike when the weather cools off. The Portal cafe had excellent food and eating on the patio in the evening added to the enjoyment. Tomorrow I head back up to the crest and hit Chiricahua Peak.
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Feb 18 2018
LindaAnn
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39 female
 Joined Dec 24 2007
 Ahwatukee, AZ
Flys Peak - Rustler Park THTucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 18 2018
LindaAnn
Hiking8.23 Miles 1,921 AEG
Hiking8.23 Miles   4 Hrs      2.39 mph
1,921 ft AEG      33 Mns Break
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The weather on Sunday was much colder than Saturday. Daniela and I started from Rustler Park in plenty of wind and fog. There was sporadic slushy rain on the way to Flys Peak. At the summit, we took a quick break sheltered under some trees, but no views as everything was in the fog. The plan was to continue to Chiricahua Peak, but after another half mile or so, I decided that it wasn't worth the walk over there since we couldn't see anything anyway, so we turned around. On the way back, we spotted one coatimundi, who climbed a tree next to the trail and threw some bark and loose branches at us while we took pictures. Daniela had never seen one before. Despite turning around early, it was still a pleasant hike, and I'll head back in a month of two to explore some of the other trails.
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Aug 03 2013
VolcanoCLMBR
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40 male
 Joined Sep 16 2011
 Phoenix
Flys Peak Trail #337Tucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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VolcanoCLMBR
Hiking0.75 Miles 574 AEG
Hiking0.75 Miles      45 Mns   1.00 mph
574 ft AEG
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Aug 30 2009
hhwolf14
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 Joined Oct 13 2007
 Loveland, CO
Chiricahua Peak from Rustler Park THTucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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hhwolf14
Hiking18.00 Miles 1,282 AEG
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Did Fly's and Chiricahua Peaks with Marley. Attempted Monte Vista, but took a wrong turn (seems to be par for the course here), so will have to come back for that one.
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Aug 02 2009
erbemone
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50 male
 Joined Aug 03 2009
 Tucson,AZ
Flys Peak Trail #337Tucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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erbemone
Backpack6.00 Miles 600 AEG
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First time to Fly Peak. Lots of Flora and fauna, especially those pesky deer. Ate wild raspberries almost the whole way.
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Wildflowers Observation Substantial
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Jun 12 2009
sumnergeo
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 Joined Mar 26 2004
 Houston, TX
Crest Trail #270 - Jct Saddle to Sentinel PeakTucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
Backpack avatar Jun 12 2009
sumnergeo
Backpack6.30 Miles 1,100 AEG
Backpack6.30 Miles7 Days         
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Trail work - June 3-12, 2009, Sierra Club Service Trip

Summary
For trails noted, cleared of all downed logs. Brushing and treadwork accompanied clearing the trails of trees. About 15 miles of trail worked. If last year's estimate of trees per mile holds, we cut out or moved over 200 trees from the trails. Largest tree was 25 inches (green Douglas Fir on Bear Wallow trail).
Work accomplished over seven days with eight to twelve people. Sierra Club Service Trip.

Trails Cleared
Long Park to Fly Saddle
North and South Fly Peak Trails (337)
Crest Trail (270) from northern Wilderness boundary to Junction Saddle
Chiricahua Peak (270A)
Junction Saddle to Chiricahua Saddle (270B); Chiricahua Saddle to Paint Rock (270B); we scouted eleven trees on the trail from Paint Rock to Monte Vista.
Aspen Saddle to Chiricahua Saddle (270D)
Junction to Price Canyon trail junction (270C); many small trees across trail from Price Canyon to South Fork jct.
Anita Spring trail (359)
Booger Springs trail from Round Park (347)
Greenhouse trail (248) to basin overlook from Cima Park and from lower trailhead to Upper Falls Overlook (heard from Portal Hiking Club that there is a tree across the trail above the overlook and the Cima watershed)
Bear Wallow (335). This included extensive clearing and total rework of portions of the trail around the spring south of the spring
Centella Point trail (334) from Fly Saddle out to overlook

Details
June 2 - Arrival of early group of seven in late afternoon at Rustler Park.
June 3 - carried supplies into Cima Cabin from Long Park and cut out one tree from Crest Trail north of Bootlegger Saddle; return via Bear Wallow to check trail conditions on east side of Flys Peak.
June 4 - hike to Cima with supplies and removed logs along Crest from Long Park to Cima Park; cleared blow down northeast of Round Park
June 5 - Anne and Terri to Willcox for groceries. Jody, Jim, Jean, John, Joe, Eb and Fred cleared logs off Flys Peak trails and out to Anita Park on Crest Trail.
June 6 - hike to Cima with produce purchased in Willcox on June 5. Prepare to depart from Rustler Park; rest of members of Service Trip arrive. Say adios to Eb.
June 7 - depart for Cima to set up camp; afternoon doing safety training, cutting log below Cima Cabin, Cleared logs out Crest Trail to Anita Park and Springs (no water in the spring) and out to Aspen Saddle.
June 8 - Continue out the Crest Trail toward Sentinel Peak. Smaller group clears logs off trail to Chiricahua Peak. Cleared trail to Price Canyon junction and beyond. About a mile of uncleared trail remains to South Fork junction.
June 9 - Light rain so five of us walked down Greenhouse trail and took out one log while enjoying the natural conditions. Joe scouted the trails around Chiricahua Peak and in the afternoon, six of us (Fred, Jody, Joe, Jean, John) cleared trail for about ½ mile from Aspen Saddle toward Chiricahua Saddle.
June 10 - Cleared trails from Aspen and Junction Saddles out to Chiricahua Saddle. Lunch, then a smaller group out to Monte Vista but removed trees from trail out to Paint Rock.
June 11 - Returned to Round Park and worked the Bear Wallow trail to the junction with the Centella Trail. Cut out trees, tread work, brushing, and trail reroute south of the spring. Ended at big Douglas Fir.
June 12 - Back to the big fir and with Zac's help, Terri and Jeanie did an underbuck - 25 inches, a tough one. Cleared trees and lopped out Centella Trail with a break on the overlook. Could see to the Florida Mountains south of Deming; fires in the Peloncillos and Animas Ranges. Returned to Flys Saddle with lunch at Tub Springs cut out a number of trees and brushed as we went. Returned tools and gear to Zac's truck at the Long Park Trailhead.
June 13 - Broke camp and hiked out to Rustler Park and se dijimos adios.
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Wildflowers Observation Light

dry Anita Spring Dry Dry
usually running but stagnant in early June; other springs: Bear Wallow, Tub, Eagle, Booger, Kuniper all had some flow; flow in Cima Creek at Cabin

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Oct 10 2008
sumnergeo
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 Joined Mar 26 2004
 Houston, TX
Flys Peak Trail #337Tucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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sumnergeo
Hiking4.00 Miles 600 AEG
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A group of seventeen volunteers and FS trail rangers attended a crosscut saw certification class and for our "practical," we tackled the Flys Peak Trail from Flys Saddle to the peak and around the east side of Flys Peak to Bear Wallow Spring. With four crosscut saws and associated trail-clearing tools, we finished clearing the trails that the Sierra Club Service group had started in June 2008. Fine weather with threats of rain but we had a log-free trail by the end of the day! High winds on October 11 kept us from working through to Round Park on the Crest and Flys Peak trails.
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Autumn Foliage Observation Moderate

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good flow; cleared large log that blocked the trail from Centella Point.

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good flow after a wet summer
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Sep 22 1995
mazatzal
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 Joined Jul 28 2004
 Scottsdale, AZ
Chiricahua Peak from Rustler Park THTucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
Hiking avatar Sep 22 1995
mazatzal
Hiking12.00 Miles 1,282 AEG
Hiking12.00 Miles
1,282 ft AEG
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This was before the 2 (or 3?) fires that have hit Chiricahuas since then. There was one a few years before this trip. Great trail and views.
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