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Apr 16 2021
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Reavis Gap, Fireline & Campaign Creek LoopGlobe, AZ
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Backpack31.68 Miles 7,338 AEG
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1st trip
Went out with my mom for another super fun three-day weekend adventure in the Superstitions! This was my first time ever to the "Eastern Superstitions" so I was super excited!!! The furthest east I had been previously was last year starting from the Woodbury TH and heading north on the JF Trail. And I suppose a day hike from Roger's Trough to the ruins near Angel Basin.

Trip Planning: Based on recent water reports, as well as historic water data going back many years here on HikeAZ, I determined that this area should have plenty of water, although I wasn't sure how the fire might have affected some of the springs (e.g. Grapevine is reportedly dry this season). Given some of the things I've read about these trails in the eastern Supes, I decided a short loop of just 17-18 miles would be good to start with. We planned the loop going clockwise so that if we made good progress, we could camp two nights at the same place near Reavis Ranch, on that 0.7 mile section between Fireline and Reavis Gap. But if progress was slow, we would have camped along Campaign creek or along Fireline (had enough water for a dry camp). Turns out there was plenty of water all throughout the area and the trails were in super good condition (except Frog Tanks...more on that later!).

The Drive: We took our trusty 2001 Chevy Suburban just in case the roads were rough getting to the Campaign TH. In our family, the standard for a "good road" is whether my brother could drive it in his Prius (he's taken that Prius a lot of places!). In this case, with dry conditions, his Prius could have made it without issues to the Campaign TH. The directions on how to get there are very simple, just take 449A and follow signs for Campaign TH. When you get to a place where you feel like you're entering someone's private residence, turn left and go through the gate with a white sign that reads "4x4 Only". The trailhead is essentially at the Reevis Mountain School/Sanctuary, so you can follow signs for that too, and that'll get you there. As a side note, the guy who runs Reevis Mountain School is more affectionately known as Peter Bigfoot, and teaches a bunch of classes out there. I haven't taken one of his classes (yet!), but we got to meet him the last day of our trip, and he was teaching a class on edible desert herbs. Looks super fun and I hope to take one of his classes soon!

Day 1: Campaign Trail and Fireline Trail

Campaign Trail: Unfortunately, the majority of this trail was burned in the Woodbury fire (possibly also the Sawtooth fire, but I didn't check that). The trail itself is in good condition, although sometimes overgrown with weeds. Thankfully, there is very little catclaw/mesquite so the skin and clothes don't get too beat up. The amazing wildflowers made for a nice contrast against the charred branches. As a side note, we saw probably 20 different species of wildflowers, throughout the trip, but mostly at the lower elevations (not so much in the Reavis Ranch area). There was water in Campaign creek for the majority of the distance to the Fireline trail. We filtered some from it and it had a taste from the algae, but not bad.

Fireline Trail: This trail departs from the Campaign trail and heads up significant elevation to reach the Reavis Ranch area. After gaining the ridgeline ~1000 feet up, you actually get into a short section of trail that was not touched by the fire. That mile or so was quite pleasant. :) We didn't have time to go to Circlestone...not sure what we missed, but probably there's some interesting history there. By late afternoon, we were heading down the final descent into Reavis Ranch, and camped toward the northern end of the camping zone in a nice grove of apple trees. The apple trees were in full bloom, which was a special treat. The sweet fragrance was almost overpowering, and the sound of the bees buzzing overhead was beautiful. It appears there are black bears in the area, as we saw plenty of bear scat, a bear den, and the next day positively identified a bear footprint in Fish Creek Canyon.

Day 2: Day hike on Frog Tanks trail to Cimeron Spring
Today, the goal was to travel light and fast and make it all the way to Angel Basin and back (where the famous ruins are). Unfortunately, at about 5 or 5.5 miles in, the catclaw got to the point where it was no longer fun to continue on the Frog Tanks trail, so we opted to return back to camp and spend the afternoon in the more pleasant apple tree groves. There was plenty of water today, I'll try to leave water reports, although the sources aren't near the official loop, so they may not show up. There was (stagnant) water in Willow Creek, large pools of clear water at Plow Saddle Springs (that quickly disappeared underground), and lots of water in Paradise Canyon / Fish Creek. The water in Fish Creek continued for about 0.5 mile downstream, and then went underground off and on for another 0.25 miles, then disappeared entirely. We went as far as Cimeron spring, which we presume was dry, because there was no surface moisture in the creek bed at that location, but we didn't climb up to the actual spring. A couple highlights this day in the wildlife arena were a coachwhip and an Arizona Black rattlesnake. The Arizona Black was under one of the apple trees at Reavis Ranch and didn't move his position for more than 16 hours. I suppose it was just content to sit there coiled up and resting. :lol:

Day 3: Hike out on Reavis Gap Trail
This was the most pleasant of all the hiking days. First, the weather was beautiful and temperatures were perfect! Second, much of this day's hike was unburned, which for obvious reasons is more fun than hiking through all the burned area. Approximately 3.5 miles follow the AZT until it takes off to the north, while our trail continued to the east. That section of trail was in very good condition and well maintained. The descent from Reavis Gap back to Campaign creek was very steep, more so than expected. It would definitely make for a challenging hike going uphill, so we were glad to be going downhill. After arriving back at the car, we explored the Tule trailhead, and then just for fun drove out on the Apache Trail (SR-88) till the closure, just to see what the hike would be like getting to the Reavis TH north. Wouldn't be too difficult, but would definitely add some miles.

We also visited the Tonto National Monument cliff dwellings before heading back to Phoenix. They were interesting, although it was disappointing the upper cliff dwellings are mostly closed off to visitors (one tour per day, three days per week, only six months per year, by reservation only in person or on the phone). We'll have to go back in November to see the upper cliff dwellings, as that would be quite interesting!
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Wildflowers Observation Moderate
Many different species...will post photos with identifying labels if I can identify them all.

dry Brushy Spring Dry Dry
I didn't actually go to the spring, however, the creek was dry at the location where the spring "should" be. There was water in Campaign creek for a good 3 miles from the TH, however.

dry Cimeron Spring Dry Dry
Didn't go to the spring, but the main drainage was dry at this point and there was no evidence of moisture.

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I'd estimate 2 feet wide and 2-3 inches deep.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Pine Creek at Reavis Gap #117 Pools to trickle Pools to trickle
Can't say it was flowing particularly...but there was a nice big pool that looked relatively clear (besides leaves floating on the surface). Downstream of the pool was dry. Didn't venture upstream.

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I couldn't observe the actual flow, but the spring created several large pools full of water plants (lily pads, reeds, etc.) and then shortly disappeared underground.

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Maybe 2 feet wide and 2-3 inches deep.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Reavis Creek at Gap Trail #117 Light flow Light flow
Not a ton of water, but I've got nothing to compare it to, as it's my first time here. I'd estimate 2 feet wide and 2-3 inches deep.

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There was good flow in the creek, and within the first mile of hiking, we crossed several little "seeps" or "springs" flowing across the trail in this area.

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Small pools at the trail crossing
Mar 06 2021
chumley
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Reavis Gap Trail #117Globe, AZ
Globe, AZ
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Backpack18.10 Miles 4,445 AEG
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I've been busy lately but it's been a while since I've carried everything on my back for a night so when 9L mentioned this one it sounded perfect. I haven't been out this way since the fire(s) and was saddened to see that Campaign Creek is absolute toast. The Gap is the same steep, rocky climb as always but largely unburned and I was happy to see that. We took a side trip down 2— to check out the spring and scope future camp sites in the area.

As we crested the ridge and got a view down in to Pine Creek we were happy to see little burn damage at the bottom of the canyon, though the hillside to get there had been torched. The campsites were intact, and we were also happy to find a pool of water suitable for filtering at the crossing. Along the hike in, we had begun to wonder if we would have to hike a bit up or downstream to find any water, so this was a relieving moment.

Once camp was set up, Karl and I opted for an exploratory afternoon loop following an old road/route that parallels the creek up high on the west side. We were partially successful. A few sections of miserable overgrown brush connected other sections of well-cairned and easy to follow route. Ultimately we reached the Fireline trail (link it!!) which we took for a short stretch before heading back toward camp in the bottom of the Pine Creek drainage.

The first mile along Pine Creek is as nice as any in the Superstitions. There's no water here but the valley features a beautiful ponderosa forest, unaffected by fires. It's a rare remaining island oasis of what once was. :cry:

Back at camp enjoyed a pleasant night by the fire. Over the two days we chatted with 4 thru-hikers -- none of which had any idea where they were or what they had seen, nor did they care -- time and miles are all that matters :roll: . Amongst them, somebody who didn't feel the need to bury their shit. Yay. I hope they're proud of their pin or button or whatever they get for finishing.

Sunday morning, Karl and I made an attempt at finding a better place to access the route we found Saturday afternoon, but came up empty. So we headed back down the hill, catching up with the others about halfway. We added another for the end of the hike as a friend of Lee's had hiked up in the morning to meet us. It was a fun and quick overnight in the Supes. Glad to see there are a couple of spots that didn't burn down.
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Mar 06 2021
BiFrost
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 Phoenix, AZ
Pine and Campaign Creek, AZ 
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Quick overnight into Pine and Campaign Creek area. We started from Campaign Creek trailhead towards Reavis Gap. At the Reavis Gap AZT junction we dropped packs and headed over to Walnut Spring which is about 1 mile round trip. The spring water looked a bit murky but filterable if needed. Also the area around the spring did burn but fortunately not the spring itself. After that it was just a short hike down to Pine Creek for nights camp.

Everyone setup camp and then headed off on various hikes to kill the afternoon. I joined Chumley for some off trail fun in Pine Creek. We were looking for a supposed route through rough terrain and we did manage to find some cairns and what looked like old road/trail. However, it was difficult to follow and would fade in and out. We followed it best we could to the upper start of Pine Creek and where it meets the Fireline trail Then from there we followed Pine Creek drainage back down to camp. I was really interested to see if the Pine forest in the upper creek survived the fire. I was very happy to see that this great stand of Ponderosa did survive intact despite extensive fire damage close by.

Once back at camp we enjoyed a nice night around the camp fire. A few AZT thru hikers came by after dark and then some more in the morning. In the morning we had a leisurely wake and hike back out to the trailhead. Very relaxing overnight with relatively low miles than the usual backpack weekend.

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small pools and some light flow but good water

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murky water in the box but could filter if needed
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Mound Mountain PeakGlobe, AZ
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Mound Mountain has been on my radar screen for a while so I decided that there was no time like the present to hike it.

We started from the Campaign TH and went from the Campaign Trail to the Reavis Gap Trail. We continued through Reavis Gap, and just past Pine Creek we went off-trail on a Pine Creek route that @wallyfrack told me about. This route took us to the Fireline Trail about 1/2 mile east of the turn to Circlestone and Mound Mountain.

This off-trail route saved right at 2 miles getting to the summit. However, the going for me was a bit slow, so I am not sure if we saved much, if any, time. Parts of the route were in open areas that were well cairned, and these sections were about like being on a trail. However, in other parts of the route we were bushwhacking through some fairly thick brush at times. Going through these areas slowed us down a good bit, although perhaps with a better job of route finding I could have avoided some of these areas. There was LOTS and LOTS of bear scat along this off-trail section. We eventually made it to the Fireline Trail, and I was glad to be back on a trail.

The route up to Circlestone was easy to follow, and we stopped at Circlestone for a bit. The ascent up to Mound Mountain was through a burned area, so the bushwhacking was much easier than it otherwise would have been.

We were almost to the summit when I looked above me and there was a large rock with something brown on it, about 30 feet or so away. The "brown something" turned out to be a bear laying on the rock. The bear got up and ambled away to our right. Then I could hear a bear cub going "wah, wah, wah", crying out for it's mama. If we had continued up we would have been between the mama bear and the baby bear, which didn't seem like a good idea. So we retreated a bit and then looped around away from the bears on our way to the summit.

The views at the summit were nice, and were better than I thought that they might be. The descent down was a bit steep at the top, but it went smoothly and before we knew it we were back at Circlestone.

Once we got back to the Fireline Trail, we decided to go west of the Fireline Trail and go back on the Reavis Ranch-Reavis Gap-Campaign Trails. It would have been shorter to go east on Fireline to the Campaign Trail, but I had never been to Reavis Ranch so we decided to go that way. I really enjoyed the Reavis Ranch trail, but I wasn't all that thrilled about having to make the second climb of the day up to Reavis Gap. I did enjoy hiking through the gap though.

Along the Campaign Trail and on the Reavis Gap Trail up to Reavis Gap someone had placed a number of pink flags in the ground. I am thinking that it might have boy scouts or some other organized group that was doing a backpack. Hopefully they will pick the flags up when they are finished.

We saw a deer at Circlestone, and on the way back we saw 4 deer in Reavis Gap.

This turned out to be the 5th longest day hike that I have done.

Before the hike I was thinking that it might be a good training hike for someone who was going to do Rim-to-Rim. As it turned out, I think that Rim-to-Rim would be a good training hike for a day hike to Mound Mountain!
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Jan 14 2021
DixieFlyer
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I am not running for political office but I decided to hit the campaign trail today...Campaign Trail #256 that is!

I had never been on this trail before and I have been eyeing a hike to Mound Mountain, and wanted to check out the area.

The road to the TH had been recently graded and it was in much better shape than I thought it would be. An AWD SUV was parked at the TH, demonstrating that a 4WD vehicle is not necessary to get to the TH.

I did not get to the TH until 9:00 AM, so I knew that I would not have time to go to Mound Mountain. Instead, I planned to hike on the Campaign Trail to the Fireline Trail, and then take the Fireline Trail to where you'd turn to head up to Mound Mountain, and then reverse course back to the TH.

It was a lot slower going on the Campaign Trail than I thought that it would be. Much of the hike was through a wash or a creek bed, and there were several creek crossings. I had to slow down and stop a lot to do some route finding, as the trail -- such as it is -- is hard to follow in lots of places. Plus, on the way out the sun was right in my eyes so I couldn't look very far out in front of me to see where the trail might be. It actually would have been a nice hike through that canyon if you were taking your time without any real destination in mind.

I finally made it to the Fireline Trail, but I was behind schedule and decided just to go a short ways on the Fireline Trail before turning around. The Fireline Trail was overgrown on the section that I went on, and I don't know how it would have been had I continued further.

I think that I will go out there again before long and take the Reavis Gap Trail around towards Mound Mountain. I think that this will be a bit longer way to get to Mound Mountain as compared to going Campaign-Fireline, but perhaps the trail will be better. I think that I will need to wait until later in the winter when the days are longer before doing a dayhike to Mound Mountain from the Campaign TH.

I saw a white-tailed deer while walking in the wash. Later I was sitting on a rock in a creekbed eating lunch when I heard a loud ruckus and commotion behind me. I turned and it was a deer -- a doe -- running full speed in the creekbed right toward me. I stood up and made some noise, and the deer stopped dead in its tracks about 75 feet from me. The deer looked at me for a few seconds and then took off running out of the creekbed. I was glad that whatever spooked the deer decided not to chase me!
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West Pinto Trail #212 - SuperstitionsGlobe, AZ
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Loop hike of West Pinto, Rogers Canyon, Reavis Ranch, Fireline, and Campaign Trails.

Started at Miles TH. The first three miles of West Pinto are extremely well maintained. Once you hit fire damage, though, there's a bunch of cat claw. I only cut back what I couldn't readily get around, and it still took a fair bit of time. The trail must have been gorgeous before the fires. Route finding is sometimes a challenge when the trail follows the creek, so GPS is a must. Once the trail leaves the creek and starts heading steeply uphill, trail conditions improved. I averaged maybe 1.5 miles/and hour for most of it with the shrub-killing and route-finding and was exhausted by the time I made it down to Rogers Canyon.

Rogers Canyon was pretty busy (maybe 15 cars at the Rogers Trough TH). But once I made the turnoff up Reavis, I was back to the solitary life. The wind was mild enough that I could make camp at Reavis Saddle.

It's interesting seeing the changes from the fire on the Reavis trail, and I was relieved to see how much of the forest survived. It was cold enough hiking through that basin that there was ice in my water bottles just from the period I was walking (there was no ice overnight). Glad I camped at the Saddle!

The Fireline is actually in good shape - I had not expected that given the fire damage. Where the fire didn't hit, there are sections of overgrowth that were there ~3 years ago, so no change there. There are some sections where catclaw is taking over, but relatively few. Now, the Fireline was never my favorite trail -- I thought it was too steep and exposed before the fire, but I wouldn't say that the burn has made it materially worse. Yet.

The Campaign Trail was pretty miserable. I had never been on the section from Fireline to West Pinto before (the section from Fireline to Reavis Gap was amazing pre-fire, but I understand it's terrible now from reading HAZ triplogs). Route finding was very tough while the trail followed the creek. A lot of trail seems to be gone now. GPS is a must. When you leave the creek for good, trail conditions improve substantially.

Overall, West Pinto and the section of Campaign I was on were a slog. With that said, I feel some sense of guilt/responsibility to keep going back to the now-crappy parts of the Supes to try to (very) modestly cut things back. I kind of feel like we lost some great trails in the Whites because they were too far from most people to allow the sort of everyday minor trail maintenance that can keep a trail from going to seed after a big fire. I just need time to forget how unpleasant some of that trail was!
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Fireline Trail #118Globe, AZ
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On November 19, 2020, I did the Reavis Gap, Campaign Creek, Fireline loop out of Reavis Ranch. I'll focus on Fireline for this triplog.

To begin with, Campaign Creek was trashed by the fires of summer 2020. And any trail that once existed is barely noticeable; though some cattle have kept some semblance of a trail visible in a few spots. Either I blew past the trail sign for Fireline or it was never replaced after the fires. And going up Fireline out of Campaign Creek for the first 2/10ths of a mile was straight up the drainage; which was somewhat rough going. The trail was spotty for the next mile or so. It became more clear, though still trashed, all the way into Reavis Ranch. Not to mention, the burn was really bad all the way.
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Back way to Reavis Ranch, AZ 
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Had a bit of an itch to get away from everything, so I decided on some real social distancing and decided to try and utilize some lesser-used trails to get to Reavis Ranch. And I wanted to take advantage of plentiful water and relatively nice weather while it's still available...

Got to Miles Ranch TH, and crossed the creek in search of the Wildcat Canyon route, which I found pretty quickly with the help of GPS. The trail was pretty easy to follow up to the first ridge, after which it turned into just trying to force my way through scrub oak and catclaw, trying to stay close to the line on the map. Once the trail drops down into the wash, the going got much easier, and the rest of the trail was actually quite pleasant. I'm not sure it really offers anything that some of the canyons south of Miles don't, but I'm glad I saw it anyways...

On to Pinto Peak Trail... After the corral, I entered the burn area, and the trail seemed more like cow path than anything. It's a total wasteland now; most of the trail is gone, and everything is charred. I really wish I could've seen it a year ago...must've been pretty. I feel like the Woodbury Fire was the final blow for this trail.

On to Campaign... I kind of expected it, since I looked down into the canyon from the top of Mound a few months ago, but it's destroyed. Although not quite as bad as I expected, since some of the trees right along the creek survived. Anywhere the trail got close to the creek, it was completely erased. Which is probably about half of it. Got to the Fire Line junction, which I only found with GPS. Sign is gone. There is still a usable campsite at the junction, under some trees that were only partially burned. There were also some large animal tracks there, probably bear.

I already knew the Reavis side of Fire Line was pretty chewed up; turns out the Campaign side is as well. Despite being a steep climb, I kind of enjoyed not having to look around for trail anymore. When I got to Pine Creek, I was awfully tempted to set up camp there, but the animal tracks were awfully close and I figured I'd rather any bears that drop by during the night have a choice who to bother. Plus, I had plenty of daylight left, and forgot to bring a book. So I continued on to Reavis, where I claimed a nice campsite with good creek access just under 8 hours after starting. I didn't see anybody until after I got to Reavis Ranch. Mission accomplished.

I woke up at the crack of dawn, because I wanted to get home at a reasonable hour. Originally I had considered an off-trail route to the south, down around Peak 6120, and along the ridge to reconnect with Campaign. I decided against it because I'm at least somewhat responsible (and I would later look up on the proposed route and come to the conclusion that it would've been a bad idea). So instead I headed back across Fire Line to Campaign, and then up Campaign Creek.

A half mile or so before the trail leaves the creek bed, it actually starts becoming a little more intact. Maybe something to do with less water farther upstream. Fortunately, the ridge the trail climbs up was completely unscathed, so it is intact all the way to the saddle, and there is shade. The south side of the saddle is almost completely burned, but there wasn't as much vegetation there anyways.

I was really glad to be down at Oak Flat, because some flat walking seemed nice. Also, Oak Flat was not burned too badly. It looks like they may have done some burn operations to protect it. The sign at the junction is still intact (though the Cuff Button one is not).

West Pinto was fine, decent shade, although it started getting a little warm by the end. Got to the trailhead right around noon, about 5 1/2 hours in.

It was a good weekend. And I would not recommend this route to anybody.

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Mound Mountain PeakGlobe, AZ
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Run/Jog20.61 Miles 3,802 AEG
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I had been wanting to get to the top of Mound Mountain since I visited Circlestone 3-4 years back, and the opportunity presented itself yesterday. Moreso than Mound Mountain, I wanted to see what this area looks like post-Woodbury fire.

Rogers Trough itself looked largely intact, but a half mile down canyon, the devastation started, first with massive washouts, and then with completely destroyed vegetation. Rogers Canyon got pretty demolished.

Since Reavis Grave is said to be really easy to find now, so we kept an eye out... And sure enough, we stumbled on it just before the trail starts climbing out of the canyon. Spent a few minutes here, then continued... The stretch of trail up to the saddle got pretty beat up, with washouts in each of the side canyons.

Down into Reavis Creek, the first half mile or so was pretty wrecked, but then we started seeing patches of unburned pine trees. Not great, but better than I was expecting. Quite a bit of new material has been deposited in the creek, and a lot of it is almost unrecognizable.

Fireline trail had some really badly eroded stretches, but the Pine Creek drainage looks to have been mostly spared. The trail out to Circlestone is mostly burned, but the immediate vicinity was not.

Leaving Circlestone was new territory for me, we just headed for the Ponderosas (there's a good unburned patch downslope from Mound), and then up through some scratchy oak to the summit ridge to an outcropping, and then an easy traverse to the summit. Took about 30 minutes from Circlestone to Mount Mtn; all things considered it's a pretty easy bushwhack.

The way back was a little quicker; below the grave I decided to just stay in the wash, which used to be choked with vegetation, but is now nice and wide (it even had running water).

Whoever goes up there next...bring a pen for the register. It is currently without one.
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39 female
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 Phoenix, AZ
Mound Mountain PeakGlobe, AZ
Globe, AZ
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emilystardust
Backpack23.00 Miles 4,200 AEG
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We started from Rogers Trough Trailhead. Road was rough, but my Crosstrek made it. Trail was washed out in a few parts; nothing unmanageable, though I appreciated having the GPS route downloaded to make sure we stayed on track. There was one washed out part on the switchbacks that was a little sketchy but the rest only looked worse than they actually were. Set up camp at Reavis; everywhere the wood was very wet from the rains earlier in the week and our campfire skills are only moderately proficient, not extremely proficient, so no fire for us and an early bedtime. We had to get our feet wet to get across to Reavis, so we decided to pack up our things and camp on the other side of the water crossing after we got back down from Mound Mountain the second day. Water filter didn't work super great the second day, so it was a tedious task of me filtering everything through a Lifestraw after that for my partner and I. Circlestone was pretty awesome - we stopped for snacks and a break before heading off-trail to the peak. Views were amazing, of course, at the top. I didn't see the sign-in log/box, so I guess that means we were never there since there is no written evidence :). Sunday was pretty cloudy hiking out and I thought it was going to rain for awhile as the clouds starting getting darker and darker. I was mostly concerned about rain on the road driving out, but luckily it never came. A great weekend and very beautiful even with all the fire damage.
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joebartels
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51 male
 Joined Nov 20 1996
 Phoenix, AZ
Reavis - Pine Creek Loop, AZ 
Reavis - Pine Creek Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Nov 17 2018
joebartels
Hiking17.23 Miles 3,754 AEG
Hiking17.23 Miles   8 Hrs   59 Mns   2.10 mph
3,754 ft AEG      47 Mns Break12 LBS Pack
 
1st trip
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Back to Reavis after a two week hiatus. Upper Pine Creek has been on my someday list since the 20th century. Karl was game, perfect weather sealed the deal.

Shockingly, only two small camps in Reavis Valley.

Found a strong second favorite Superstition pine forest today! Skinny ponderosa? along the aptly named Pine Creek make a nice canopy for over a half mile. Offtrail and the non-pool sustainable creek will keep the riff raff out.

Descending Pine Creek on the return turned out to be the right choice. The middle mile is a mild mess. Easy down, would be more effort ascending against the grain. Lower half~mi to Gap Trail sports a few slender pools. A game trail high banks the east for portions.

Definitely prefer Gap Trail ascending. Loose marble rock footing consumes my concentration descending in a few stretches.

Chatted with a hunter back at square one. Rare hike in pants was a good choice.
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Autumn Foliage Observation Moderate
Sycamores don't get much foliage attention. Seemed fair two weeks ago, expected it to be game over by now. Turned out to be darn near peak. Extreme for a little stretch of Campaign Creek. Nice where Gap #117 crosses Reavis Creek too. Pear tree was on the tail swing.
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same Gooding's Verbena and 2 isolated sprigs of Indian Paintbrush witnessed 2 weeks ago holding strong

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Nice light flow

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Pool at crossing, better than two weeks ago

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Interesting name Eagle_Nut choose. Anypoo, per usual a reliable source. Trail is still a muddy mess at the seep.
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Nov 17 2018
BiFrost
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52 male
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 Phoenix, AZ
Reavis - Pine Creek Loop, AZ 
Reavis - Pine Creek Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Nov 17 2018
BiFrost
Hiking17.23 Miles 3,754 AEG
Hiking17.23 Miles   8 Hrs   59 Mns   2.10 mph
3,754 ft AEG      47 Mns Break
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1st trip
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Nice lasso loop through Reavis and Pine Canyon. Joe didn’t have to twist my arm on this one and new area explored for both of us in upper Pine Canyon. We stared from Campaign Creek trail head and headed for Reavis Gap before dropping into Reavis Valley.

Plenty of apples still on the trees in this year’s bumper crop. Sampled about ½ dozen and they were delicious. After taking our time in Reavis Valley we eventually headed up Fireline Trail to upper Pine Canyon.

Once in Pine Canyon we continued off trail down the canyon and were treated to probably the best stand of Ponderosa Pines in the Supes. Great section in the first mile or so before things stared to get brushy. Nothing too bad and we had some scenic pools to negotiate along the way.

At the bottom we reconnected with the trail for the easy walk back out. Only saw 2 people in Reavis which was surprising and ran into one hunter at the trail head.
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joebartels
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51 male
 Joined Nov 20 1996
 Phoenix, AZ
Reavis Gap, Fireline & Campaign Creek LoopGlobe, AZ
Globe, AZ
Hiking avatar Nov 03 2018
joebartels
Hiking17.33 Miles 3,646 AEG
Hiking17.33 Miles   9 Hrs   19 Mns   2.07 mph
3,646 ft AEG      56 Mns Break14 LBS Pack
 
Campaign Trail #256
Springs area just past the school is a muddy tiptoe. Otherwise excellent condition compared to yesteryear. You might miss a creek crossing but nothing of concern. Very few catclaw nags.

Fireline Trail #118
Memory had this trail in better condition. Campaign to top is mild overgrown. Circlestone turnoff to Reavis Creek is fab save the one standard rutted hill. We passed a group of 3, 1 guy then a group of 7ish. All inquired about circlestone.

Reavis Ranch Trail #109
Been a while since I've passed through when it's a popular destination. Perhaps 25-60+. 5 weeks after my bumper crop report there are still enough apples in the trees for a small army. Plenty easily accessible too. Low hanging, shake a branch, limbs that have busted from weight pressure... you name it. Tasty treats galore, come get 'em!

Reavis Gap Trail #117
A little naggy catclaw, nothing bad. Per usual, steep grades east of the saddle.

FR449A
As good of condition as ever. What happened to the large stretches of deep sand?
High clearance + AWD / 4WD or a driver with a clue still required for the steep climb out.

Synopsis
Loved it! Hope to return and experience Autumn Fest at Reavis forever!
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Autumn Foliage Observation Light
Sycamores thru Campaign are moderate. Majority of the balance is light. First I recall the Pear Trees in foliage.
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Wildflowers Observation Moderate
The big fields of daisies are off season. 5-8 miles was constant small yellows. Gooding's Verbena dabbled several areas. 2 isolated sprigs of Indian Paintbrush.

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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout

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light clear flow, easy to cross

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spotty pools, no flow
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Nov 03 2018
The_Eagle
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65 male
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 Far NE Phoenix,
Campaign - Fireline - Reavis Gap Loop, AZ 
Campaign - Fireline - Reavis Gap Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Nov 03 2018
The_Eagle
Hiking17.29 Miles 3,699 AEG
Hiking17.29 Miles   9 Hrs   18 Mns   2.06 mph
3,699 ft AEG      55 Mns Break14 LBS Pack
 
1st trip
A couple of groups of deer hunters were spotting on our way in and one other truck at the Campaign TH when we arrived.

I enjoy the hike past the Reevis School and past "The Springs". The Turkeys were gobbling at us as we passed by. Something tells me hikers in 3 weeks from now, will not be bothered by their noise.

It's a gentle but steady 1200' climb in the 5.6 miles on the Campaign Trail #256, to get to the Fireline Trail intersection. Water was available in numerous spots in the creek along the way. The sycamores are in the process of changing colors now.

On the Fireline Trail #118 you get a 1000' climb in a mile to warm you up, before dropping into Pine Creek. Once past the Circlestone intersection, we started seeing our first people for the day. They were all on their way to Circlestone.

On the Reavis Ranch Trail #109 now, we made a stop at the pear trees first. Very few left in the trees, but I was able to grab a few good ones off the ground.

The hot dog carts, the tiki bar and ice cream stands seemed to be doing a booming business, with the large crowd at Reavis Ranch. I would not be surprised if there were 50+ campers. In past years I've only cared for the yellow apples. With this years bumper crop (The most I've personally seen here), all the apples I sampled were quite tasty. A particular favorite, was from one of the first red trees, on the south side of the orchard. My pack was heavier leaving the orchard.

We had lunch where the Reavis Gap Trail #109 crosses Reavis Creek. There are some huge sycamores here.
The Gap Trail has more cat claw than I remember. With long pants, no big deal.

Perfect weather on the day. We saw more than 10 deer on the day. The first 6+ little deer, were in a corral when we passed them.

Notes for future drivers to this TH on FR 449a. Cars are a no go. There is a sign at the turn off from the ranch that says 4 x 4 only. Joe and I remembered more sand on this drive, that had me thinking Empire Blvd. The sand never materialized. There are 4 shallow creek crossings that are no big deal. The only problem on the way out is a sharp, loose-ish climb after a tight turn. My HC 2x4 slipped a bit but had no problems after a power slide around the corner.

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Sycamores are changing

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Pools in the area


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Plenty to filter from here and downstream

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Pools to filter from

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Numerous springs in the area as well as Campaign Creeks pools provide plenty of sources
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Nov 24 2017
VolcanoCLMBR
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42 male
 Joined Sep 16 2011
 Phoenix
Reavis Ranch via Miles Ranch TH, AZ 
Reavis Ranch via Miles Ranch TH, AZ
 
Backpack avatar Nov 24 2017
VolcanoCLMBR
Backpack20.50 Miles 3,900 AEG
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3,900 ft AEG
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1st trip
It was completely unnecessary, lots of climbing with the sun beating down on us. The way back was much easier. Still completely unnecessary.
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67 male
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 Kodiak, AK
West Pinto loop from Miles Ranch, AZ 
West Pinto loop from Miles Ranch, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Nov 12 2017
Mr_Squishy
Hiking31.55 Miles 7,002 AEG
Hiking31.55 Miles
7,002 ft AEG32 LBS Pack
 
1st trip
After a rough drive on FR 287 and FR 287A, I arrived at the Miles Ranch TH midafternoon Sunday, Nov 12 and camped in my Sportsmobile. Several vehicles belonging to hunters were parked and I saw at least ten hunters Sunday and Monday at or around the trailhead.
On the trail at 8:15 Monday, carrying seven liters of water which made the pack a bit heavy (32 total pounds, including GPS and inReach); luckily my base weight is pretty light.. Saw a camper at the corral at the Campaign TH who ended up being the only person I saw on the entire loop over three days. It was a hot hike up to the Divide and I was glad I had a three liter reservoir of Gatorade. More shade on the downhill to the Fireline trail intersection. I had planned to camp here, but I arrived at 1 pm and had plenty of water, so I decided to press on and camp at Circlestone which I had visited once before. Made it after 7 hours of hiking, 10.76 miles, 3973 ft elev gain. I was pretty slow on the hike up Fireline as I had already done 3000 ft elev gain. Made a cowboy camp and was treated to a great sunset and a great sunrise.
Tuesday, on the Fireline trail at 8:15, I filled up at the Fireline/Reavis stream and headed up to the saddle - plenty of shade made for a pleasant hike. Down the Switchbacks from Hell in the sun to the canyon with a stop at the Reavis Gravesite. Headed up toward Rogers Trough TH to hit the West Pinto intersection and hike up to the Iron Mountain saddle to camp. Near Rogers Spring I got off trail and made a bad decision: according to the GPS, the trail was only 200 feet away. I decided to cut trail and bushwhacked, thinking just how bad could it be? Hahahahahaha....thirty minutes later, I finally hit the trail with numerous scratches and a pinhole in one Hydrapak Seeker, luckily near the top, so I didn't lose much water. A bit irritating to have it drip on my calf up the trail, however.
Iron Mountain saddle didn't really have a campsite, so I cowboy camped where the trail goes through the barbed wire fence right below the mountain. That night, I was laying in my sleeping bag at 8:30 when all of a sudden the entire area lit up like daylight. I sat up and caught the last second of the meteorite which made the Phoenix news the next day. Wow! Day 2 was about 12 miles, 2100 ft elev gain, 7 hours on trail.
Next morning, on the trail at 8 am, I hiked the West Pinto trail on back to Miles Ranch where a cold beer awaited me. Near Oak Flats I saw a skunk with an enormous, beautiful white tail and also 10-15 Coatimundi.
Made it to the trailhead about 1:30 and headed back to AJ. Day 3 - about 10 miles, 1000 ft elev gain, 5 hours hiking.
I wore shorts the entire hike and my legs show the results of lots of catclaw on this route.
Talked to a hunter who pulled over to let my pass on 287A - I can't imagine hunting and trying to keep meat from spoiling when the temperature is in the 80s.
Excellent trip, highly recommended if you don't mind hauling your water. Based on this trip, I think I will try to haul water and dry camp in saddles from now on - warmer, longer daylight, and solitude.

dry Crockett Spring Dry Dry
No water near trail.

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Seeping - you would have to dig a hole to obtain water

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Saw some water.

dry Oak Flat Spring Dry Dry
I did not see any water.

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Flowing water, several pools.


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Observed a couple pools - no flow apparent.

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Seep below pipe; pipe dripping

dry Spencer Spring Creek Dry Dry
No apparent water.

dry Turney Spring Dry Dry
No water near trail

dry West Spring Dry Dry

dry Whiskey Spring Dry Dry
No water near trail.
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Nov 04 2017
LindaAnn
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41 female
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 Ahwatukee, AZ
Reavis Gap, Fireline & Campaign Creek LoopGlobe, AZ
Globe, AZ
Hiking avatar Nov 04 2017
LindaAnn
Hiking20.05 Miles 4,569 AEG
Hiking20.05 Miles   10 Hrs   14 Mns   2.13 mph
4,569 ft AEG      48 Mns Break
 
1st trip
Got started from the Campaign trailhead a little before 8:00 am, and decided to do the loop clockwise. Campaign was great, as expected. The first mile from the trailhead had quite a bit of water, then a few little pools after that. A little brushy in places, so pants would be a better idea than shorts. Lots of bear scat along the trail. A nice amount of fall color was there to be seen. It seemed like there were more cairns along the trail than there was last year. We had pleasant cloud cover the entire time on Campaign.

At Fireline, the sun came out just in time for the uphill climb, but then reappeared before too long. Fireline is a little washed out in places, but nothing terrible. Walking through the pines along the upper part of the trail is my favorite thing about Fireline.

We turned off and headed over to Circlestone, then over to Mound Mountain. The clouds were dark at this point, but we never got more than a sprinkle. Our route up to Mound was not the best--plenty of manzanita and other brush--it was a relief to get to the summit. We took our first break of the day at the summit and had lunch. While we were up there, a fighter jet approached from the north and flew very low down Reavis valley and past us to the east. Very cool to see a jet flying below us. Then, moments later, three more jets did the same thing, although not quite as low, two passing us to the west, and one more to the east. Views from the summit were great in all directions, especially with the clouds and rain off in the distance. Our route down Mound was much better, very little brush to navigate through. We passed by Circlestone again, which was overrun with Boy Scouts, then headed back down to Fireline and Reavis, stopping to filter some water in the creek.

Reavis Ranch was packed. People and tents everywhere. We cruised through there as quickly as possible, then up Reavis Gap. Along Reavis Gap, we encountered a group of backpackers at the junction with the AZT who seemed to not be having a great trip. It appeared to be some counselors with a group of teenagers, attempting to backpack from Roosevelt to Picketpost, and some in the group had had enough. The whole explanation was very disjointed, and none of the adults seemed to have a clue about where they wanted to go to bail out. We offered some suggestions about the quickest way out, and since nobody seemed to be injured, starving, or dehydrated--just moody teenagers--we continued on our way out. The descent down to Campaign seemed never ending, and we finished up right around 6:00, just before headlamps would have been needed.

The drive out offered most of our wildlife sightings for the day--four javelinas, one rattlesnake (we did not run over it), and one deer. Great day, perfect weather all the way around, great company, and nice to be back in the Supes for the day.
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Nov 04 2017
The_N
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35 male
 Joined Mar 18 2015
 Payson, AZ
Reavis Gap, Fireline & Campaign Creek LoopGlobe, AZ
Globe, AZ
Hiking avatar Nov 04 2017
The_N
Hiking20.05 Miles 4,569 AEG
Hiking20.05 Miles   10 Hrs   14 Mns   2.13 mph
4,569 ft AEG      48 Mns Break
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1st trip
We started up Campaign first, which treated us to a nice fall display and even a trickle of water in spots. Brushy, here and there, but not bad. The trail itself was easy to follow. Overcast skies and a cool, fall breeze made for very comfortable conditions. We continued on a nice little climb up Fireline. The catclaw and other stabby stuff is present, nothing that'll stop you in your tracks. We reached Circlestone as a light drizzle passed through. We enjoyed the first raindrops in quite some time. We skipped on by and started toward Mound. Naturally, I headed straight for the manzanita. Not Linda's favorite vegetation to fight, but she didn't complain. We broke free of the manzy and took a nice route to the summit. We enjoyed the excellent views, epic clouds, gorgeous weather and even a low level fly-by from 4 fighter jets during lunch. The trip back down went by quicker. We took the other side of the ridge and found an easier path, avoiding the manzy patch. Circlestone was busy and we knew we'd encounter people at Reavis Ranch. There were dozens of campers and a few more trickling in as we passed through. We jumped on Reavis Gap and left all of that behind. I like this trail and the views of Four Peaks along the way. After some advice for a group of distressed AZT backpackers, we started the loose, gravel-ridden downhill. We arrived back at the TH just before darkness fell. This was a great hike and absolutely perfect day to be in the Supes. Best day I've had in a long time.
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Sycamores along Campaign, with a cottonwood or two sprinkled in.
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53 male
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Reavis - Fire Line - Campaign - W Pinto Loop, AZ 
Reavis - Fire Line - Campaign - W Pinto Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Apr 07 2017
grey_nomad
Hiking22.20 Miles 4,534 AEG
Hiking22.20 Miles   9 Hrs   34 Mns   2.32 mph
4,534 ft AEG21 LBS Pack
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1st trip
Overview:
Friday afternoon, parked @ Rogers Trough Trailhead
Trail 109 toward Reavis Ranch - Camped overnight @ Reavis Ranch
Saturday morning, left Reavis and took Trail 118 east
Turned RIGHT on the Campaign Trail (213)
Turned RIGHT on W Pinto to intersection with 109
Turned RIGHT on Trail 109 for the short walk back to the trailhead

Narrative
This hike is a beast. It started easy enough. I've done the hike into Reavis Ranch on 109 several times, so it was nice and familiar. On the way, I stopped at the grave site to say hello and then headed into the Ranch. Much to my surprise, I had the Ranch all to myself. There wasn't anyone else camping there on this particular Friday night. At least as far as I could tell. I walked from the old house foundation out into the orchard and didn't see anyone. Awesome, but sort of odd. I don't think I've ever been back there by myself.

On Saturday morning, I set out to hike some trails I've never done before. I loaded up with 4 Liters of water and started up the Fire Line trail. The trail was good until I got to the high point (~700 ft elevation gain) just past what looked like a small trail to Mound Mtn. From the pass, the trail heads down toward Campaign Creek. The trail down hill is steep and pretty hard to find in a number of places. After dropping ~1000 feet, the Fire Line Trail intersects with the Campaign Trail. I stopped at the intersection and had a little breakfast -- my 1st attempt at soaking a Mountain House meal rather than adding boiling water. It worked for me. I think I'll try it again in the future. Anyway, there is a nice, small campsite at the intersection that I plan to use at some point in the future (hopefully).

I turned right on the Campaign Trail and headed upstream. The trail is easy to follow for a about a 100' and then crosses the creek. The next few mile or so is tough going. I lost the trail several times and almost completely missed the point where the trail went steeply up hill. After standing in a very small clearing for 4 or 5 minutes, I spotted the trail through a patch of cat claw going steeply up hill. I fought through the brush and pushed up the hill. After about a mile, the trail reaches the ridge line and you leave the brush into more open desert. At the wilderness boundary, there is a gate. On the other side of a gate, the trail changes completely. You are in more open desert and there are obvious signs of trail work. The trail is nicely cleared and easy to follow. From the gate down to the West Pinto Creek intersection, the trail is completely clear of brush and the trail bed is easy to walk on. The drop is pretty incredible. In ~2.75 miles, you drop ~1500 feet. On this descent, I saw the only other people I would see all day - 3 hikers heading up the hill on their way to Reavis Ranch for the night.

The Campaign Trail meets W Pinto near the old corral. From here, I wanted to follow W Pinto back toward Rogers Trough. There are a dozen or so large, well used campsites near the corral and I had a hard time finding the trail. I'm pretty sure I didn't go the right way, but I plowed forward and eventually ended up on the mail trail heading toward Rogers Trough.
There is a short steep up out of the creek bed and then the trail gains elevation slowly (~800 feet above the intersection) over the next 3.5 as you walk along the ridge line and hillsides above the creek. I passed a number of pools that looked very inviting, but were too far down the hill for me to stop and dip my feet in.

About 4 miles from the intersection of Campaign and W Pinto, things get tough. I was a bit dehydrated (my fault) and the trail got steep. The trail gained about 600' in 0.5 miles and it really took the life out of my legs. The trail continues up, but at a more gradual pace. Once I crested the top, I thought I was done climbing and the trail was going to go to the right of Iron Mountain, but the trail turned left and dropped down a few hundred feet before starting the final uphill. After cresting the ridge the south of Iron Mountain, the trail drops down to intersect with 109 for the short walk back to the trailhead.

This hike really beat me up. Trail finding along the Campaign Trail before I got to the wilderness boundary was tough. The steep up and down really killed my legs. And, I didn't drink enough. I have a tendency to walk for several hours without stopping and that really came back to bite me on this trip. On the last climb, I was barely moving a 1 mile per hour. Lesson learned. There is no reason to be dehydrated walking next to a creek. All in all, I'm glad I checked these sections off my list. I found one campsite I want to revisit solo and nice big campsites along W Pinto for the Troop.
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trekkin_gecko
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 phoenix, az
Reavis Gap, Fireline & Campaign Creek LoopGlobe, AZ
Globe, AZ
Hiking avatar Dec 04 2016
trekkin_gecko
Hiking17.93 Miles 3,774 AEG
Hiking17.93 Miles   7 Hrs   52 Mns   2.49 mph
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1st trip
the eastern supes have been on my radar since our backpack to reavis ranch last year
noticed that ray (and others) have been doing some cool hikes out that way, so i cold-called him for a hike
he had in mind this loop, which is a good long intro to and sampler of the east side
his silver bullet easily made it to the trailhead, and it was about 30 degrees when we set out on campaign trail
after reading about the climb up fireline, we did the loop counterclockwise, taking reavis gap trail at about a mile and a quarter in
sustained and at times steep climb up to reavis gap/two bar ridge
great views from there, with grassy terrain, rocky outcroppings, lots of landmarks i've yet to learn the names of
a gentle descent and another climb to the point where reavis ranch is visible, simply an amazing view
we took a short snack break somewhere in there, ray sharing half of his sandwich
familiar ground on a short section of reavis gap, the piece through reavis ranch, and fireline up to the circlestone
turnoff
we considered going up to circlestone, but both felt that was pushing it so we continued along fireline
ray says he'll be back :)
found the steep drop into campaign creek, had lunch toward the end of fireline, and eventually hit the intersection with campaign trail
while very pretty with the almost bare sycamores, the creek crossings made for more difficult travel
we got off trail a couple of times even with cairns at each crossing
oh, and i blew one of the later crossings, dunking a foot; never my strong suit
there was quite of bit of bear scat through here
closed the loop and finished above reavis mountain school, enjoying late fall color and lush vegetation in the creek, which held quite a bit of water on the eastern end
great hike and i'd do it again but clockwise, to see the views going the other way
excellent choice ray, even with a long drive and a committing hike with someone you've never met before :lol:
we did quite well together and even felt like having dinner at guayo's on the way into globe
thanks for agreeing to a hike, for driving and for the chocolate milk/pringle's combo as a post-hike snack
enjoyed the hike and your company :)
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